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Anthony Prescott

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« on: September 12, 2010, 11:57:58 AM »

is there any reason this combination will not work? my goal is to use it for heavy hauls on hills and in the mountains. here's a little back story: the 413 industrial came out of a 72 motor home and the t-18 came from a 65 jeep gladiator. the motor home had 12xxx miles and the jeep has 15xxx miles.  i had an adaptor built to line them up. they fit perfectly. 
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 12:44:30 PM »

The industrial 413 is nothing more than a truck engine, also used in other stationary applications.  If I recall, Chrysler Sirens from the cold war area used that engine.
 
They are torquie suckers.  They also had extra steam ports in the heads.  When rebuilding them, be sure you refer to the year and make it clear it's from a Mo Home.  Some things are not the same to the car 413's.
 
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 01:13:37 PM »

there is a lot to know about these industrial engines. i've researched everything and built it up. it runs great. its got some power, alright. i ran it in my truck before with a heavy duty 727. the issue is not the performance of the engine, but the outcome with the new transmission. the t-18. i think it'll do fine, but somebody on another forum told me that it'll be great... for a day. what was his concern? am i missing something? i'm now worried that i'm doing all of this work for nothing. any input would be appreciated
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 01:32:40 PM »

You would have probably been better off with the Mo Home trans.  The trans is heavier trans because it's installed in a typical 500-600-700 series chassis.  I don'tknow what the T18 is.  I can't imagine a jeep trans being as strong as the Mo Home trans
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 01:40:58 PM »




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but somebody on another forum told me that it'll be great... for a day. what was his concern?
The T18 is a pretty clunky tranny to begin with.  1st gear is a non-synchro stump puller and I believe the torque rating is 900 ft-lbs!  It will rip apart quickly.  If you could swap that T18 for an A833 Mopar 4 speed, your conversion would be a heck of a lot simpler.  A modified A727 Torqueflite automatic would be a piece of cake.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 02:23:44 PM »

Stick around. . . .Stan may have a whole setup for you.   
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 02:59:51 PM »

ok... good point. here's my reasoning... i want a 4 speed with a granny gear. i need it to hold me back going down the hills carrying 7k lbs behind the truck. i hate having to get the rotors turned every three weeks. is there a 4 speed granny box thats heavy heavy? i need a transfer case that will stand pulling junk cars out of a canyon too. what do you think? i've seen some old jeeps in action. and the t-18 did the job right. if you dont think it'll work, give me another option. the front axel has a passenger side pumpkin
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 03:01:45 PM »

oh. they dont make an adaptor, i had to cast my own.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 05:02:00 PM »

Lets start with what you are putting all this into.
 
I'm thinking International back in the 60's.  Try looking for a Travelall
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 05:13:47 PM »

its goung into a 91 dodge ram 250 4x4.  travelell??? whats that?
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2010, 05:14:21 PM »

*goung* going
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2010, 06:20:13 PM »

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its goung into a 91 dodge ram 250 4x4.  travelell??? whats that?


 
My favorite expression comes to mind.  Damned Kids.
 
International Travelall.  Made from 1957 to 1980.  Came in gas and Diesel in later years.  If you heard of a IH Scout, this was it's big brother.  It came out before the Jeep Wagoneer and was a whole lot tougher.
 
Now You'll aske me what a Wagoneer is.   www.google.com 
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2010, 06:49:27 PM »

http://www.jeepfan.com/tech/jeeptech/transmission-factory-t18.htm

 
From the readings, I believe it would be a strong enough tranny at this point, even if it is a Borg Warner, even though there are stronger transmissions out there, an A833 would definitely not be a good idea, it is a car transmission, the T18 is a truck transmssion, pulling, hauling, and non-racing applications. It may not be one I would cruise 90mph on the highway for hours on end, but third up a steep hill with a load would be OK.
 
The big question is, with all the Mopar truck transmissions, why not one of them? Dodge 4X4s are pretty good.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2010, 06:54:01 PM »

low budget. scrapped the jeep, saved the drivetrain. plus, things are hard to come by in the mountains. i dont know of any places in the san jose, california area that has used truck parts cheap. if anybdy does, let me know.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2010, 07:02:38 PM »

Craiglist comes to mind in that area, but I think you are OK for quite  a while with that combination.
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