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Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / LOOOONG TF Shifting issue.!
« on: July 28, 2008, 02:20:30 PM »
Love it.

BTW, The trans shift lever (column shift) has a really sloppy feel to it. does anyone sell a bushing kit for the linkage? (could this be a clue as to the source of the problem?)

Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / LOOOONG TF Shifting issue.!
« on: July 28, 2008, 01:45:22 PM »
BigBlockMopar, I'm hip to checking the fluid in Neutral and not park, but thanks for the tip.

A friend at work suggested adding the drain plug. Your posts convince me it's a smart thing to do. Snotty makes a good point that it is a shortcut that could be abused.  Thanks for the 'word to the wise'!

I will begin by making sure that the linkage is properly adjusted (per the FSM). A fluid/filter change will be done regardless.

I will share my success/failure with you all.

Thanks for the priceless aid!

Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / LOOOONG TF Shifting issue.!
« on: July 28, 2008, 02:26:04 AM »
You see? This is why I love this place!!! I would never have thought of a dirty trans filter. And the torque converter can be drained while installed? Brilliant!

I am more than a little nervous about adjusting bands. I have a FSM that I assume will outline in detail what's involved. Are special tools required?

MoparMatt, I don't know how long the car has sat, but it appears to have been quite awhile.

CBarge, are you talking about the gasket on the torque converter drain plug?

So my shopping list will consist of:
10 qts. of ATF+4 Fluid
1 Trans filter
1 pan gasket
1 torque converter drain plug gasket (?)

If I am forgetting anything please advise.

Thanks for the great advise. I will post results ASAP.

Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / LOOOONG TF Shifting issue.!
« on: July 27, 2008, 11:14:28 AM »
The shifts in the Torqueflite in my Sport Fury take a LOOOOOONG time to complete. Under normal acceleration, the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts seem to happen at the right time, but are really slushy. With more 'spirited' acceleration, the shift issue is worse.

The fluid is clean, at the proper level and has no burnt smell. Once in gear it doesn't feel like she's slipping, but I could be mistaken I suppose.

Before I start getting bummed out about a trip to the transmission shop, could this be a misadjusted linkage problem? Seems to me I read about the linkage being directly responsible for the shifts.

Any help is as always GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks and standing-by,
Uncle Hulka

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: July 20, 2008, 04:05:08 AM »
Had a LONG day working on the car yesterday. Did I mention that yesterday was in the upper 90's with ridiculous humidity levels? I was sweating like a pig before I started! Oh well.

I replaced oil seals for both axles (the ones in the axle tubes). The bearings were fine so I just repacked them. I also decided to pull the 3rd member while I had the axles out. To no real surprise I found it is not a Sure Grip. And just to add a little salt to the wound, it's a 2.76 ratio! I knew from the date code ('69) that it was not original. This diff had been in place for a very long time. I'm going to guess that back in the 70's, the owner swapped the orig 3.23 SG for the 2.76 to try to get better fuel economy. Why else would you do that to a car with a 440HP? BTW If anyone in the CT-area has a reasonably priced 742 or 489 Sure Grip 3rd member with 3.23 or 3.55 gears, please let me know.

Upon inspection I could see that there was a small leak at the pinion so I decided now would be the best time to replace the pinion seal. Before installing the seal, I treated the 3rd member to a trip to the parts washer so I could inspect her for any cracks. Didn't find any so I replaced the pinion seal and started to scrape the old gasket off the rear end housing. WOW, was this a tough job! I got every bit of old gasket off for a (hopefully) leak-free seal.

I Cleaned the rear end housing of the last traces of oil and any crap that might have gotten in while gasket-scraping. Then reinstalled the 3rd member, the axles and buttoned everything up. I decided not to fill it with fluid last night so the skim coat of RTV I put on the diff housing gasket would have time to cure. I'll fill it today.

It was the first time I've ever tackled a rear-end before. A lot of time and work, but it's all worth it. I'll keep the group informed and YES I'll get some pictures posted!

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: July 12, 2008, 02:13:32 PM »
Brand new Edelbrock 1407 Performer (750 CFM/Electric Choke)

BTW - just learned I have to replace all the gaskets/seals in my 8 3/4! I knew when I did the brakes that the old, cruddy oil build-up I found when I took off the right-rear drum I'd be doing this job. While taking my wife for a brief jaunt this afternoon, I started smelling what smelled like burning oil. Looked under the hood and couldn't see anything. By the time I got her home, I had smoke coming from that same wheel!!!!

It's my own damn fault. I am intimidated by that adjustable right-rear axle assembly! Is this going to be a big, complicated job?

I just want to make the leaks stop.

thanks for letting me vent!

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: July 11, 2008, 03:24:08 PM »
I also ruled out the top as a culprit (the list was me venting).

I'll check the timing. I believe it should be 5 BTDC at idle with vacuum advance pulled and plugged. And yes the new dist has a new vacuum advance diaphragm (I would assume; it was all part of the mopar conversion kit I got from Summit.

I will also checked the thermostat. Meant to do that before and every time I thought of it, the system was hot and under pressure. By the time it cooled, I had forgotten.

As for the timing, how will too advanced/too retarded timing make it run hot? For what it's worth, I have never heard it ping (pre-detonate).

Thanks for your help!!!

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: July 11, 2008, 02:37:49 PM »
Hi Matt!

Divine intervention? ABSOLUTELY

Coil? Brand new.
Voltage regulator? New.
Ballast resistor? New
Distributor? New
ECU? New
Spark Plugs? New
Plug wires? New
Carburetor? New
Air cleaner filter? New
Fuel Pump? New
Starter? New.
Tires? New.
Convertible top? New
Brakes? New

Broke? Yes

Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / Torqueflite Issues/Problems
« on: July 11, 2008, 12:42:38 PM »

Turns out one of the linkage springs was installed improperly. She shifts in the appropriate ranges, but they do seem a bit on the squishy side. Not firm like I was expecting.

Thanks for the help, but a new issue has come up that may be related to the electronic ignition conversion I did. I'll post this problem in that thread. Here's a link if anyone is interested:

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: July 11, 2008, 12:34:05 PM »
OK OK! I'll get pictures when she's presentable. BUT in the meantime, I need to pick the brains for a solution/explanation to yet another issue!!!

UPDATE! I got temporary plates on her yesterday. You see, in CT, an out-of-state vehicle is subjected to a "VIN Verification" inspection before permanent registration plates are issued. To get inspected, the vehicle is issued temps to allow the vehicle to be driven to the DMV. This also let's me drive the car to the muffler shop so I could have a nice pair of mufflers installed.

Things I've noticed since driving her around a bit:

Although the temp gage stays in the normal range, when I park her, I can hear the radiator venting a little pressure and she dribbled a bit of coolant out of the overflow tube.

When she's warm, at idle she stumbles and has stalled like I had turned off the ignition. As anyone who's been following my stories knows, I am a little gun shy when it comes to the electronic ignition conversion I performed. I already had one bad 'orange' ECU right out of the box. So even though Summit replaced it, I still had a known good unit I got from NAPA (the one that allowed me to determine my problem). I swapped them, but the problem persists.

Then I thought it might be vapor lock. Given that a previous owner had installed an in-line fuel filter (metal housing) right in front of the carburetor (so it was resting right on top of the intake manifold), I imagined all the fuel in the filter just percolating in the heat. I relocated the filter so it is right after the fuel pump in a nice cool area.

Problem persists.

I'm so close I can taste it! Please, does anyone out here have wisdom to share?

Oh, before I forget. The last time I started her (about 45 minutes ago) my previously inoperative fuel gauge started to work again! I don't know how accurate it is, but it reads a half tank where before it always read empty. Thought you'd like to hear good news once in awhile!

Thanks and Standing-by

Tech- - DRIVE TRAIN / Torqueflite Issues/Problems
« on: July 10, 2008, 02:50:23 PM »
I took my '68 Sport Fury for a drive for the first time and the transmission acts funny. Details:

1-2 shift is 'slushy' at moderated load. At full throttle it's better. If I manually hold it in 1st under acceleration, I noticed it starts to feel slushy and then a good, firm shift.

The 2-3 doesn't seem to happen until 50+MPH! Under normal cruising (40MPH avg) it never shifts into 3rd.

The fluid is the correct color and has no 'burned' smell. It is also at the proper level (checked with the engine warm and the selector in 'N' per the service manual).

Don't know if this is any help, but the selector lever feels loose and a little sloppy. I have tried manually holding the lever in the proper position (detent) to see if that might help (linkage out of adjustment?) but no change.

The car is an L-code 440HP. It also has been sitting (inside) for a few years.

Any help is appreciated.

And for the record, these are REALLY neat cars! My first and I'm so hooked!

General Tech / Where the heck does this go?
« on: June 26, 2008, 07:38:10 AM »
Ah-HAAAAAA! Now that makes sense. Thanks very much!!!

General Tech / '68 Sport Fury Update
« on: June 25, 2008, 03:29:19 PM »
Thought I'd keep the gang updated on my progress so far.

When I last left you, I had just diagnosed a bizzare problem involving my conversion to electronic ignition. With that done, I moved on.......

I decided that the original convertible top, no matter how much I loved having the original, had to be replaced. No tears or serious rips, but the material had shrunken severely and had become incredibly stiff as well. I have always had good luck with Year One so I bought the new top there. I got the top, the back glass and new pads, but sadly they didn't have a new well for my vehicle. Shortly afterwards I saw that Legendary has the well for my car! I found this out a little too late and it wouldn't have arrived in time for my installation date. No great loss, as my well is in great shape. And it's original

I am fortunate/blessed to have a great friend who restores interiors and convertibles. He is just plain awesome. He took a day off from a multi-year, concours-level restoration on a 1962 F.I. Corvette. He had never done a top on a C-body and commented several times on what a great design the Plymouth engineers did on their convertible top assemblies. Much easier on the installer.

When he was done, the top looked fantastic! Not a wrinkle anywhere. Thanks for a stunning job, Dan.

With the top done, I am closer to getting her registered. the last things I need are:


Tires - I'm keeping the stock wheels so I am limited. The original tire size was 8.25 x 14. This puts me in a modern tire size of 225/70R14. Money is tight, so I am looking at a set of Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS, mounted, balanced, and all fees/taxes out the door for $360. Not a bad deal.

Mufflers - This is where some input from you guys would be welcome. I want to go with a muffler that will complement the 440HP engine. Yes, I want it to sound like the Charger in Bullet! Again, budget restraints haunt me but I think I can find something good in my range. Cherry Bomb? Walker Dynomax Turbo? My pipes are good and solid so all I have to put on are the mufflers.

A thought occurred to me just now. Do they make GTX-style tailpipes for my Sport Fury? That might not look too bad, eh?

Standing-by for wisdom and Thanks!!
Uncle Hulka

General Tech / Where the heck does this go?
« on: June 25, 2008, 02:52:38 PM »
Thanks! The terminal style threw me for a loop. I'll try your suggestion!

Thanks to all for your assistance.

General Tech / Where the heck does this go?
« on: June 25, 2008, 02:25:59 AM »
Thanks for getting back to me. I didn't explain myself properly. I know it's the ground. Given the unique shape of the terminal, I thought there was a specific location designed to accommodate this terminal. That is the place I was trying to find. I know I can ground it to any chassis ground location. I just want to put it where the factory intended it to go.

So, where does it go?

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