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Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 17, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
   Where all the money goes! Actually I don't mind it a bit, keep's me away from the bar and out of trouble. I wish the wife saw it my way...
 
   Anyhow, the 66' 300 is up on block's and in for another refit. It won't be a major one like last year but hey, gonna take another chunk of time and cash, both thing's well spent.
 
   Gonna be calling on Stitcherbob for the big one, top replacement. I will be ordering the stayfast canvas top from Kee Autotop in the next week or two along with new rear window, top pad's and a new well liner. I have never done a top replacement before but I gotta learn sometime.
 
   Other item's to be addressed are torque converter upgrade and seal's on both side's, 3:23's in the rear end and all related seal's, full brake job with new power booster, starter, rear leaf's and shock's (KYB's as per Polaraco's past thread) and a pile-o-piddly crap that just bug's me. The exhaust I fabricated from the manifold's to the tip's need's a little tweaking as I find the muffler's hang a little low.
 
   I will shoot a couple of pic's over the next few day's from my little house in the backyard just to show how confined the quarter's are getting. My plan this past fall was to build an addition to the garage for the Chrysler but that got put on hold till spring. The VIP reside's in my Dad's garage but the 300 is shared with 2 street bike's, 2 atv's (another on the way), 2 ski-doo's and a snowblower. Clever use of space in a 20' x 32' garage I tell ya...
 
    
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/2580900_207_full.jpg)
 
   Here is a condensed list of stuff performed on the car last winter by myself in my little house in the back yard...
 
-Complete front suspension rebuild. (everything with joint's and rubber)
-New power steering box and power steering hose's.
-Radiator rebuild. (shoulda put a 4 core instead of the 3 just for the hell of it)
-Replace all the engine gasket's (intake gasket was non existent, was sealed with blue rtv silicone)
-Threw in a timing chain set while it was apart.
-New fuel pump and pushrod.
-Replaced all the power window switches and repair wiring back to stock.
-Install H/P manifold's and fabricate full dual exhaust system with Dynomax ultra-flo muff's.
-Replace engine harness and repair the bulkhead connector and pins.
-Replace all ignition component's, regulator and resistor, starter switch, belt's and hose's.
-Seat belt's fer the yungin's.
-Align all the window tracks and regulator's.
-Clean up the grime under the hood and make it all pretty.
-New tire's.
-Install cd player under dash and install speaker's in stock location's.
-Change all fluid's and service/adjust tranny.
-Carb rebuild.
-new master cylinder (67 dual style) 
 
   There is a raft of other stuff I did to the car but i'm pretty sure I could go on forever... Just glad that when I got the car there was absolutely no body, trim or interior issues to deal with. This car has lead a pampered life and was stored in a heated garage for the past 25 years. Before that it resided in north carolina where it was purchased new, absolutely a 100% rust free car. Hopefully it wont cost as much this year as it did last year or I will be kicked out on my a$$...
 
   Cheers, Jimmy...
jimmyray682008-07-23 17:54:54
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 18, 2008, 02:03:51 AM
A garage is never too big.Mine is 20x40 and I am already running out of room.
If you are droppong the arse right out of her,you may as well clean up the axle housing and shoot a fresh coat of paint on it..It will look nice when put back together,IMO..

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on January 18, 2008, 08:33:23 AM
Jimmy,That 300 is one sweeeeet ride!!!!! ya gotta love the 66's they have all the best stuff,the 65 dashboard and the body style that makes em look like they are moving even when sitting still IMHO!!!!!!!!!!

I wish mine was a 'vert.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)  I guess I shoulda held out a little longer,but I got my favorite color combo so I guess I got lucky there.

Anyway I really like your rides Jim!!!! keep up the good work!!

I just noticed our rides have almost the same "rake" to them or "stance" if you get what I mean.ardog2008-01-18 13:35:55
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: R. Dave Carr on January 18, 2008, 10:21:08 AM
Jimmy, what size tires are those?  I wish Big Blue was that nice.....  Perhaps someday when I hit the lotto....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 20, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Hey Lea, the rear axle was painted about 10 years ago, still see your reflection in it. Too true about garage space, seems the more space you have the more crap you find to fill that space.
Ardog, you got one sweet ride yerself. You are right about the stance too. I like cars up a little in the rear, looks like its ready to jump at you. The rear shocks are those heavy load levellers with the coil over springs, they gotta go because it rides like crap. I will probably have to slip another leaf in the springs when the new shocks go in to keep the ride height.
Hey Carrman, the tires are 235 75r 15's with the 1 1/2" wide whites. The car had 215's when I bought it fall of 2006. The wheels are later version chrysler chromes but I think it is the best looking combo for it. Big blue is a beauty too. Love the lines of the 66 cars. You dont need to win the lotto either, picked the 66 up for $10 grand. Just got to be in the right place at the right time I guess... 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 25, 2008, 02:55:43 AM
   Just picked up my new power brake booster and it has a bare steel finish. What would you guys suggest I finish it with, a clear coat and keep it natural or prime and paint either cast finish or black?
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 25, 2008, 03:31:03 AM
I would paint it black.....clear tends to trap moisture underneath (during spraying) and then rust blooms, and I can't remember ever seeing one in cast finish....

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 25, 2008, 05:27:18 AM
   Yeah, I was thinking black myself as the VIP has the original booster with a semi satin black finish on it. Guess thats the way its going although it does look kinda cool in its natural state...
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on January 25, 2008, 08:00:53 AM
 
Quote from: jimmyray68
Ardog, you got one sweet ride yerself. You are right about the stance too. I like cars up a little in the rear, looks like its ready to jump at you. The rear shocks are those heavy load levellers with the coil over springs, they gotta go because it rides like crap. I will probably have to slip another leaf in the springs when the new shocks go in to keep the ride height.

Thanks Jimmy but she's a 20 footer at best(if your 20 feet away she looks real good!!!)But the worst part is the interior,maybe some day it will get redone.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
My car just has regular air shocks on the back. I like the ready to jump look too. People tell me I should lower it but I don't care for that look. Then there the idiots that talk about hydraulics!!!! Don't get me started on them!!!

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Steve on January 25, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
KIDS!
 
Most kids don't appreciate these old monsters.  They are used to these cookie cutter cars.
 
Let's shove a potato in the tailpipe and see them dodge (There are several meanings for Dodge) when it comes at them! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  Rice wagons just die when you do that.
 
Pssst  Pssst  I did that to one of my bongo playing neighbors with a speaker that was distrupting the Magnetic Compass North in his car.  Took him weeks to figure out what was wrong. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif)  Heh Heh Heh  Funny how quiet it was for a few weeks.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
POLARACO2008-01-25 13:53:00
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 25, 2008, 03:33:06 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
KIDS!
 
Most kids don't appreciate these old monsters.  They are used to these cookie cutter cars.
 






Lets hope there's also several meanings for "Potatoe" as well......(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Mike on January 27, 2008, 03:05:10 PM
Thanks Bobby, I would like to see a Potato launched out of a tailpipe,
Ohhhhhh Johnny Boy!..... Hey Jimmy, what kind of rims/wheels are on
that sweet 66.


Potatoe2008-01-27 20:16:46
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Johnny D. on January 27, 2008, 04:31:02 PM
you know where the car is... you even got a key... what do i gotta do supply the spud too?


Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Mike on January 27, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
I thought about it B and we would prob blow your exhaust apart lol.

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 27, 2008, 06:21:56 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
 
   Wheels are just the 15 x 6 Chrysler road wheels with body color painted insert. Here is a crappy pic...
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/roadwheel2.jpg)
jimmyray682008-04-14 16:18:02
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Johnny D. on January 27, 2008, 06:37:34 PM
man i love road wheels...

good story Jimmy...


and P it needs a new exhaust anyway, the original has about had it.


Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 29, 2008, 10:03:21 AM
   First pic is for Leaburn.
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/comehomeyear.jpg)
 
   Finally found the time and energy today to go out and pluck the tranny. Here is the 300 in the dungeon...
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/chaoscentral.jpg)
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/300garage.jpg)
 
   Motorcycle jack doubles as an awesome trans jack.
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/transonjack.jpg)
 
   Kerplunk! Absolutely amazed how easy it was to take this sucker out, about 45 minutes and three beers start to finish!
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/transonfloor.jpg)
 
   Up on the bench for a cleaning and whatever else. Going to order the torque converter and seals tomorrow, all should be here no later than Monday.
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/workarea.jpg)
 
   Here is a shot of the new booster just laid in place, paint it up and bolt er in later on.
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/booster.jpg)
 
   Here is my Mopar fan club. Thats Peter the female on the left and Sparkle the male on the right, they live up by the work bench and have a full run outside the back of the garage. They mostly just poke their heads up and if they could they would just laugh at me all day long. You know it costs $230 to neuter a $10 male rabbit?
 
 
 (http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/petersparkle.jpg)
 
   Here is some more of the crap that shares space with the 300. The 78' elan is out by the door to make a little room. My world is closing in, cant wait to build the addition this spring...
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/alldajunk.jpg)
 
   Almost got the cash fund topped up to get the new ragtop on order. I will have it shipped to my buddy in Houston and I will bring it back with me on the plane when I visit him in April. I absolutely hate dealing with UPS...
 
jimmyray682008-01-30 09:08:26
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 29, 2008, 01:03:34 PM
Nice pics!
Jimmy is going on dat car like a pair of rabbits!! LOL!!
Newfie plates are hard to come by up here.
It is good to hear you have a U.S. contact.Makes thing much easier,IMHO.
That 230.00 bill will pay for itself in the long run.We all know about rabbits' verility.Probably would have had the garage filled up with baby rabbits in no time short! 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Mike on January 29, 2008, 01:09:48 PM
Sweet garage!, Hey Jimmy three questions. I know one si stupid and I'll
prob get yelled at. 1 is that a 383 in there( The dumb question), 2.
what kinda tires are those I might want a set for my Buick when my
tires are done who knows, 3. once the trans is ready to come out how do
your seperate the torque converter? Thx, P

Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on January 29, 2008, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
Sweet garage!, Hey Jimmy three questions. I know one si stupid and I'll prob get yelled at. 1 is that a 383 in there( The dumb question), 2. what kinda tires are those I might want a set for my Buick when my tires are done who knows, 3. once the trans is ready to come out how do your seperate the torque converter? Thx, P
 
   I don't yell, i'm neuter'd too. The motor is a "TREE 80 TREE". I know, it should be turquoise but I took a walk on the wild side.
 
  The tires are Dimension IV, available thru GCR tire stores thru national tire distributors. Here's the link...
 
http://www.nationaltire.com/catalog/tireDetails.asp?tID=9&tCatID=3&tireCat=Passenger (http://www.nationaltire.com/catalog/tireDetails.asp?tID=9&tCatID=3&tireCat=Passenger)
 
   Use the dealer locator top right corner.
 
   As for the trans, i'm not sure what you are asking? There are 4 bolts that attatch the converter to the flex plate, you take them out and away you go, trans and converter fall to earth. Is that the answer?
 
   And as for the Newf plates, I got a 67 and a 69 hanging in the garage but I know where to get a 68. You want it for the barge lea?
 
 
 
 
jimmyray682008-01-29 22:29:36
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 29, 2008, 05:43:35 PM
Sure!
"Canada's Happy Province"
red on white reflective..
 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on April 14, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
    Got the new canvas top, curtain, well liner and pads while in Texas. Got an upholsterer giving me a hand to install it on the 21st. It's my first time out with a convertible top so for $30 an hour i'd say its cheap insurance. With two hands at it I would say it will be completed in an evening.
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on May 12, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
   Well, I got the top on with just a few details left to wrap up. All secured at the rear and glued to the front. Came out perfect, not a wrinkle anywhere. The shot below is with the top partially open to keep the strain off the canvass while waiting to be finished.
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0938.jpg)
 
   Currently have the axles pulled to install new seals while the gearset was resealed to the housing. I was planning on putting the 3:23's in with the new converter but the converter is still on backorder so with the price of fuel expecting to skyrocket this summer, 2:76's are staying put.
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0931.jpg)
 
   Another thing that has to be done is the factory mirrors have to be fitted and the top of the doors repainted. The crappy aftermarket mirrors have to go. Got the l/side mirror but it looks like I will be buying the repro for the r/side from PG classics later in the week.
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0352.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0353.jpg)
 
   Got the new starter, power steering pump and lines ready to go on this week.New shoes and hardware on the front done aswell as the new brake booster installed. Oh, summer has crept up awful quick...
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on May 17, 2008, 12:53:14 PM
   Got my new plate, not forgetting about you lea, it's comin'.
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0945.jpg)
   The top is done. Not bad for an amature i must say.
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0959.jpg)
 
Had it out in the sun today, most of the wrinkles came out. I will give it the once over with the steamer tomorrow.
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0949.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM0964.jpg)
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2008, 01:30:49 PM
Wow. . .Just plain WOW! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Matt Aker on May 17, 2008, 03:51:27 PM
That's AWESOME Jimmy!  simply awesome...  (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)     NICE work!
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on May 17, 2008, 04:01:02 PM
Freakin Sweet Jimmy!!!!
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on July 23, 2008, 12:17:54 PM
   Well I just ordered the Magnum 500's for the VIP, 15x7 front and 15x8 rear's, from Jeg's. Should be here in about 10 day's. As for the center's they are ordered from PG classics in New Brunswick. Thinking about a pair of 255/60r15's on the rear and leaving the 235/75r15's on the front. Blackwall out of course. They should clear the skirt's ok but I will fit the wheel before I buy the tire's. I have seen some pretty big tire's on Fury's but they don't have the skirt's the VIP has. Should look pretty sassy.
  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/52/VIPbackyard2.jpg)
 
jimmyray682008-07-23 19:05:52
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 23, 2008, 02:38:46 PM
The 255 60R15's are smaller in diameter (27.0) compared to the 2357515's (28.9) Jimmy.
The arse will be lower --It will make the car look like the rear springs are bagged if you keep the 235's up front..
Trust me on this:
With the proper backspacing on the 15X8's, you can squeeze in a 2756015 for the rear and go 23570R15 in front.
Car will sit level,and still have that meaty look from behind with no rubbing.
If you want to go 255's in the rear,best to go with 255's in front
OR
2456015 or 2157015 in front to match if you want a staggered look. All have an OD of 27.0
Now...with smaller tire in the rear your 3.23's will be more like 3.31's  and speedo will be out by 4-5 MPH faster.The engine will be revving up 235 RPM's more at 60 MPH (100 KM/H)
The original tall & skinny bias tires when the car was new had a OD of 28.0 or more.Most disc brake cars had 8.85-15 as an option.--which is equivalent to 2357515.
Wagons got that size as standard equipment.
8.55-15 does match out to be a 2556015-but again a radial will be smaller in OD when doing the bias/radial conversion .
***
Bottom line is what makes you happy.I am putting in my 2 cents so that the car does look right.
Mixed up yet/ No? Well,I can easily do that! LOL!!
Tires are my job.
I have yet steered anybody wrong (pun) I helped Steve with his choices  for the Polaraco--and now the car is going to be in a big magazine!
(gonna buy 5 copies for my mother!! Dr.hook) 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on July 23, 2008, 03:02:22 PM
   Yeah, I got homework to do on tires, got a chart with the OD's in the garage and the 275's are going in there if they will clear the skirts. I know the rim will fit but got to mount a few tires to check their side profiles first. Your 2 cents means a lot, thanks man...
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 23, 2008, 03:30:46 PM
I have helped others on the dark side with some Fuseys and you can use 2556015 all around and still clear the skirts.
CBarge2008-07-23 20:31:10
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on August 10, 2008, 04:49:34 AM
   Well got the Magnum's on, changes the look of the whole car. Also lowered the front about a 1/2". Kept the 235's all the way around for now, maybe forever...
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM1529.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM1537.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM1536.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM1522.jpg)
 
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm296/jimmyray68/HPIM1540.jpg)
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Leaburn Patey on August 10, 2008, 05:42:13 AM
Looks good Jimmy!!
Being a luxury car,the whitewalls would look nice on her too.
The 235's work well and do fill out the wheelwells nicely.
 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 10, 2008, 08:13:36 AM
The three greatest factory wheels of all time:
 
1.  Mopar Road Wheels
2.  Mopar Magnum wheels
3.  Mopar Cop wheels with dog dishes.
 
Any arguments?
 
 
 
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: R. Dave Carr on August 10, 2008, 08:50:43 AM
What's the difference between the Magnum, and the Road Wheel?
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Matt Aker on August 10, 2008, 09:54:48 AM
Jimmy's awesome VIP has Magnum 500's.  Lookin' mighty fine too (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
I horked this pic of a Chrysler road wheel from some other site.
 
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/61/pwheel.jpg)
 
They pretty much stayed the same for the production run of nearly ten years.  I think the only difference was the center caps on the early ones.
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: R. Dave Carr on August 10, 2008, 10:04:02 AM
Ah, I thought the road wheel looked more like the Magnum.
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 11, 2008, 01:29:27 AM
If you break out the Crayolas and can stay within the lines, you can get creative with the Roadies.
 
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2gt5aw4.jpg)
 
 
Quote from: carrman
Ah, I thought the road wheel looked more like the Magnum.
 
Maybe you were thinking of the Mopar rally wheel....
 
Commando12008-08-11 06:35:18
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Steve on August 11, 2008, 04:03:46 AM
Quote from: MoparMatt
Jimmy's awesome VIP has Magnum 500's.  Lookin' mighty fine too (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
I horked this pic of a Chrysler road wheel from some other site.
 
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/61/pwheel.jpg)
 
 
All you had to do was ask. . .That's Polaraco.  Besides they're over here too.
 
30 lashes with a wet noodle
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Jimmy on August 11, 2008, 04:05:05 AM
   I heavily considered those rally wheels in chrome instead of the Magnum's. Would have went well with the Plymouth theme but no going back now. No regret's either. jimmyray682008-08-11 09:05:58
Title: 66' 300 - 68' VIP
Post by: Matt Aker on August 11, 2008, 05:36:43 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Quote from: MoparMatt
Jimmy's awesome VIP has Magnum 500's.  Lookin' mighty fine too (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
I horked this pic of a Chrysler road wheel from some other site.
 
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/attachments/61/pwheel.jpg)
 
 
All you had to do was ask. . .That's Polaraco.  Besides they're over here too.
 
 
(http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)