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Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Brian on November 27, 2014, 07:32:02 AM

Might be picking up a 2002 Dakota super cheap.  Supposedly has a dead
motor and the people want it gone.  My friend had one of his co-workers
ask if he knew anyone who might be interested....since he's into old
cars.  My friend thinks he said it was a club cab, sport edition,
V6/auto?  But was going to ask more questions today.

I did a
little research last night and it seems that they used that same basic
V6 from about 1994 to about 2003.   Just want to ask those more
knowledgeable then I, if there might be anything specific to watch out
for in engine, fuel system, etc???

I'm thinking of getting it, do
 a motor swap, then possibly sell, or hold it for a first vehicle for my
 daughter in just over 2 years....Sheesh can't believe the first one
will be driving that soon!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on November 27, 2014, 12:49:21 PM
Are you sure it's the motor? V6  Timing chains could rub holes in the cover.  That V6 is a 318 less 2 cylinders.  The truck itself had some wiring harness issues in grounding junctions within the harness.  One of them was under the battery.  Transfer cases, but I think mostly on the sticks.  There's allot of those around.  I had a 98 with the 5.2 in it, but I liked my 92 better.  
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Brian on November 27, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
No idea what's wrong with it.  It belongs to the son of the guy my friend works with.  He knows nothing other then it doesn't run.  Son went and bought a new car after it stopped running.  So it may be a very simple fix, or not?  It's just been sitting since then, and they want it out of there.

Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on November 27, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
We'll see then.  Maybe just needs a crank sensor or something.  You'll need to scan it

Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 28, 2014, 06:16:20 PM
found one for ya....just need to get it down....

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Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on November 28, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
Time for another beer
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: dana44 on November 30, 2014, 09:40:30 AM
This should have the 3.7, not the 3.9 V6, so chain is a possibility. Haven't heard anything bad, per se about the 3.7, just never messed or worked on any. It is a single overhead cammed engine and the heads don't swap side to side, but thought to be a pretty decent engine, lots of work went into its development.
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Snotty on December 02, 2014, 10:08:09 AM
Quote from: dana44
This should have the 3.7, not the 3.9 V6, so chain is a possibility. Haven't heard anything bad, per se about the 3.7, just never messed or worked on any. It is a single overhead cammed engine and the heads don't swap side to side, but thought to be a pretty decent engine, lots of work went into its development.

No, 3.9 through 2003.  I own one.
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Snotty on December 02, 2014, 10:15:36 AM
The only word of caution I'd offer is something I just learned about these trucks.  If the problem is the CPU ad not the motor, it's an expensive fix.  The reason why is that, while the CPUs can be found in any Dodge with the same motor, you cannot simply take one and put it on another truck UNLESS you have the ability to reprogram it for the truck it is going into.  The VIN must be programmed into it to start.  If not, it will never run, and a new one costs plenty.



Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Brian on December 02, 2014, 10:39:28 AM
Turns out the truck is a 4.7L V8. 

Snotty....Thanks for the info on the CPU's...Good info!

Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: dana44 on December 02, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
The 4.7 is a pretty decent engine, and as far as the computer goes, yeah, I know the Ford has to have a matching cluster in order to get it to start, so that isn't that big of a surprise, has to do with the security/theft system in the Ford (at least).  If it stopped running, check the normal spark, fuel, things like that, check codes, see if there are any of them to help diagnose, go from there. If it is cheap enough, shouldn't be that hard to figure out what is wrong.
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on December 02, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
If you get a used one, you need all the other modules and the dash cluster from the other truck.  I think the Dash cluster is what is the clincher
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 02, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
I bought a transmission computer for my Chrysler 300M from these guys on ebay.....good guys


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Dodge-DAKOTA-Power-Control-Module-Engine-Computer-ECM-PCM-ECU-/121266104769?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2002|Model%3ADakota&hash=item1c3c05e9c1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Dodge-DAKOTA-Power-Control-Module-Engine-Computer-ECM-PCM-ECU-/121266104769?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A2002|Model%3ADakota&hash=item1c3c05e9c1)



stitcherbob2014-12-02 22:29:56
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Snotty on December 03, 2014, 07:48:44 AM
Quote from: thrashingcows
Turns out the truck is a 4.7L V8. 

Snotty....Thanks for the info on the CPU's...Good info!


Robert did say there is an ident plate on the CPU, underneath the "sticker" with the current truck's info.  He had to remove the sticker to get the serial number from the CPU.  Once they did that it was reprogrammed and the truck fired right up.  $500 is what the guy charged and he was happy to pay.

Steve, no need to swap the dash, etc.  
Snotty2014-12-04 13:34:32
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on December 03, 2014, 09:32:28 AM
I was saying that is what prevents thye truck from starting.  The info conflicts with the cluster.  It solves the problem when you don't have the ODP tool.
Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Brian on December 10, 2014, 06:48:29 PM
Well I didn't get the truck.  The 4.7 was all there, but after talking with them about it I was not so keen to take on the project....even at the scrap metal price they were asking.

I don't have the room, and I have one or two other cars that  need time spent on instead. ;)

Title: Info on 2002 Dakota...
Post by: Steve on December 10, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Good!  You have enough nightmares