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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 21, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
a year in the making and too many electrical gremlins in the factory wiring.  So here she goes.
 
It's getting a complete 1978 Formal Dash
Complete 1978 Newport Wiring Harness and EVERYTHING is getting rewired the right way this time
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0091.JPG)
 
Now you know why I want to rewire it.  OH  Yeah!  I'm installing the factory 1978 Heating and AC system.  Sick of freezing my butt off in the winter.  That vintage air unit stinks.  But the AC is so so.
 
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POLARACO2012-08-18 01:18:13
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: steve sclafani on June 22, 2012, 01:53:39 AM


So Diamond is Finished?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2012, 05:27:55 AM


O hell no.  I need to get these parts installed so I can make more room
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: 300rag on June 22, 2012, 06:24:33 AM
Quote from: FIN_NV

So Diamond is Finished?


What's wrong with you? You don't wait until one project is finished before you start another one. If you do that, you might get sidetracked and be without a project for a while.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: 300rag on June 22, 2012, 06:25:53 AM
I see the fine tuning hammer on the floor(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on June 22, 2012, 07:17:08 AM
Been talking about this for a long time. Yank that seat out so it doesn't get messed up, give you a couple more inches to get around.
 
Steve must be getting better, multi-tasking is a positive sign.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: 300rag on June 22, 2012, 07:31:19 AM


Quote from: dana44


Not only that, he is one year in the future. Check the camera date stamp. I guess the world won't end this year.
300Rag2012-06-22 12:32:05
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on June 22, 2012, 08:09:51 AM
Just getting things done ahead of time!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2012, 10:02:34 AM


I didn't set the date on the camera.  My wife did.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2012, 03:54:39 PM

Quote from: 300Rag
Quote from: FIN_NV

So Diamond is Finished?


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0093.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: 300rag on June 22, 2012, 05:49:47 PM

Quote from: 300Rag
I see the fine tuning hammer on the floor(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)


I stand corrected - prop stick.

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: AJ on June 22, 2012, 06:20:55 PM
Making quick progress.  Glad to hear you're finally getting around to fixing the dash wiring for good - get the gremlins out once and for all.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 23, 2012, 07:52:17 AM


Today it's going to be concentrating on the heter box,  If I can ever get motovated
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on June 23, 2012, 09:25:21 AM
That title "Polaraco is down & out" had me worried, given recent history... then I saw it was aboot the car!

Hey is the removed dash pad any good?  I need a clean one, if it'd work in the 70.  A re-dye can be done...



Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 23, 2012, 01:24:29 PM


It's better than the last one, but it too has two big cracks in it
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 23, 2012, 04:52:50 PM


 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on June 23, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
Now that I stopped laughing, how are you going to keep any sealer that is thin enough to pour from running out? What about spray foam insulation?  They usually have a straw nozzle so you can control it, cut off the excess when it dries.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2012, 06:59:23 AM


I plan on sealing it on the inside first.  I just want something to flow into the welds and seams I created.  Don't care if it runs out. . . .  That's the plan
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2012, 08:10:46 AM
I think you might have hit on it there Steve...the roll on roof sealer might be the ticket.  Check out the label and find out what you need to dilute it...then I'd buy a small container and make a test batch and pour it onto some scrap.  This way you can see if it's going to get into the seams like you want.  No sense doing this on the car and then finding out it didn't seal things the way you hoped.


Any way to get a small brush on along flexible handle down the cowl?



Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2012, 08:11:37 AM
What dimensions are that Vintage air unit?  Kind of looking for one for the old Desoto.


Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2012, 01:37:41 PM


We'll use the usual smuggling program
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Leaburn Patey on June 24, 2012, 05:00:52 PM
Where did all this energy come from??
Crioes when I was there you couild not get out of bed,LOL!!
Good work so far Steve!!
Working on Polaraco is a good diversion from the Blue Diamond.
 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2012, 05:54:49 PM


That and there is a big hole in the corner.  I just got remonded I have a lathe!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2012, 06:03:37 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on June 24, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
Yes, much better. Hey, thinking about your pouring liquid, don't use tar, even thinned out, it won't dry and be a big mess. Need to look at some kind of an epoxy, something that can be mixed and poured to get in there, that will dry.

What you are going to have to do is tape the seams so the liquid will have something that will keep it from just running out. In thinking about what to use, JB weld would be pretty expensive, but, there is a cement (as in concrete) expoxy for foundation bolts and rebar into existing concrete. The epoxy itself is about $10-12, there is a nozzle that is a good 15 inches long, part is to inject the two epoxies together so you can see it, then half the length is about the size of a pencil. I had to use this in a few places for my building project and it sets up in about three hours and is just a little thicker than Elmer's glue, and when it hardens, believe me, it is hardened.

Like I said, tape your seams or cotton ball seal them, should be enough to hold this stuff where it belongs and still not be too drippy, and it won't remain soft for months like roof patch (doesn't smell as bad, either).
 
Better looking welds.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2012, 08:29:59 PM


Quote from: POLARACO


Sweet thanks Steve...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  .Yeah let me know on the dimensions and some pics when you get a chance. 

The Desoto doesn't need a ton of heat, or A/C since it will only be driven during spring to fall....not year round like Polaraco.  And the cabin on the Desoto is a bit smaller then a C-body too.

And Yup welds look a lot better....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)

thrashingcows2012-06-25 01:30:22
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 25, 2012, 05:15:38 PM


 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 27, 2012, 04:20:10 PM
I think the welding is done.  Tomorrow, I am going to start final assembly of the heater ans move on to the dash.  By the weekend I expect to have the dash installed

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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Bill on June 28, 2012, 08:25:49 AM

Should be pourable;
http://www.bhdistributors.com/Files/Product/Grouts_712/Hydro-Active_Grouts_892/Deneef_Hydro_Active_Sealfoam_NF_2992.asp (http://www.bhdistributors.com/Files/Product/Grouts_712/Hydro-Active_Grouts_892/Deneef_Hydro_Active_Sealfoam_NF_2992.asp)





http://www.aeromarineproducts.com/boat-foam.htm?gclid=CPP8hJa78bACFUFo4AodZDyxwA (http://www.aeromarineproducts.com/boat-foam.htm?gclid=CPP8hJa78bACFUFo4AodZDyxwA)

czervika2012-06-28 13:31:41
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on June 28, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
What a job... you were looking for more projects than you had already?

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 28, 2012, 04:02:05 PM

Quote from: czervika
Should be pourable;
http://www.bhdistributors.com/Files/Product/Grouts_712/Hydro-Active_Grouts_892/Deneef_Hydro_Active_Sealfoam_NF_2992.asp (http://www.bhdistributors.com/Files/Product/Grouts_712/Hydro-Active_Grouts_892/Deneef_Hydro_Active_Sealfoam_NF_2992.asp)


http://www.aeromarineproducts.com/boat-foam.htm?gclid=CPP8hJa78bACFUFo4AodZDyxwA (http://www.aeromarineproducts.com/boat-foam.htm?gclid=CPP8hJa78bACFUFo4AodZDyxwA)

I started to put this together tonight, bit had interuptions.  I'll be out there with a flash light later

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on June 29, 2012, 01:36:32 AM
Sheesh! so fix the heater already... it's like cutting off a leg to fix a bunion! I hate messing with dash wiring myself.



There's a boat product called Sea-Cast used for rebuilding transoms
that's pourable, it's a 2 part catalyzed product and will set up hard.
Not sure what quantities it's available in, but it's very good stuff,
people even use it on big Grady-Whites and such off-shore boats, you
can Google "Sea Cast" for info. 

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 29, 2012, 03:52:54 PM



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POLARACO2012-06-29 20:54:01
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on June 29, 2012, 07:09:59 PM
Looks good, and I bet it is keeping you busy!

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 30, 2012, 07:42:41 PM




 

POLARACO2012-07-01 00:48:46
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: azblackhemi on June 30, 2012, 08:40:53 PM
Looking good Steve but would you please put a blanket or something on the seat before you ruin it!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on June 30, 2012, 08:52:15 PM


I put it on and it gets dragged off.  But I am covering it
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 01, 2012, 03:59:35 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 01, 2012, 04:03:38 PM


It rained today, pretty heavy.  No leaks  Still have to get in there with the sealer.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 04, 2012, 07:30:36 PM


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0129.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 05, 2012, 06:48:01 AM



I found it.  It was in the attic.  How the hell. . . .
POLARACO2012-07-05 11:48:30
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 05, 2012, 05:05:07 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 06, 2012, 05:13:35 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 07, 2012, 07:47:00 PM


I started the repaied on the dash pad.  Just have to glue down all the edges.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on July 08, 2012, 06:18:23 AM
OMG this gives me a huge headache, and I'm not even the one doing it!

Then again I never did like working on dash wiring.



Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 08, 2012, 08:33:32 AM


Some of that still comes out.  I know where all that goes!  That's the criminal part. I just can't figure out those turn signals.  I look at the drawings and go blank.  Believe it or not, allot of this has been done without the drawings.  I am taking a 78 harness, part of a 72 harness and part of a 92 harness and bring it all together.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 08, 2012, 04:57:54 PM


 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: AJ on July 08, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
Steve, can you enlighten us novices with interior stuff (me, anyway) as to how you are repairing the pad?  I have the stock CJ pad for my Jeep and as long as it clears the cage I want to re-install it but it has PLENTY of cracks.  I was considering just wrapping it in something.
What is that can down there?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 09, 2012, 04:07:43 PM


The turn signals are working now.  There's a fault in the harness.  I just have to find it.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on July 09, 2012, 07:35:23 PM

Quote from: POLARACO

AJ

...exactly...I'm something doesn't work in the harness...it's all your FAULT....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 09, 2012, 09:43:38 PM


Quote from: thrashingcows
Quote from: POLARACO

AJ

...exactly...I'm something doesn't work in the harness...it's all your FAULT....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
It's a splice that broke somewhere.  There's a couple of things on the circuit.  Interior lights, (Haven't hooked them up yet.  They're last.), Radio Back, Up lights. . .
POLARACO2012-07-10 02:44:14
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 10, 2012, 04:23:56 PM


I was wrong.  It's not a splice.  It's a step missing in the 72 ignition switch.  This harness had a tilt column so that'swhere the issue is.  Seems they bring more wires in for the tilt than they do for the rigid column.  Makes no sense.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 11, 2012, 06:32:10 PM
Chrysler knew all too well the bulkhead conectors were a problem and with the redesigned Formals,the bulkhead was eliminated.
All the wiring goes into the cabin through the firewall in one big harness.
The Formals were first,then the F,M,J models followed suit.
A and B bodies were eventually at their end of their runs, and the bulkheads were not redesigned
 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on July 11, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
They must have redesigned it eventually, because my 95 Dakota has one. One thing they did do was make it a lot more waterproof. There is a rubber boot that goes over it and there is a bolt that clamps the inside and outside halves together, and that dielectric grease is used to keep things from corroding. I know there were a lot of years in between, but I prefer the bulkhead connectors than wires running through the whole car like this, wife's 81 Camaro has a harness about the size of your wrist going into the engine bay right about where the distributor is, and that was a pain to get out, gonna love getting it back in.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 11, 2012, 08:57:23 PM


Would you believe I think I popped my ECU?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on July 11, 2012, 09:09:01 PM
I have a box of like 24 fuses for the Dakota and PT Cruiser, I have five fuses in the Charger (which I do intend to upgrade just a little bit later on), and my Triumph has one fuse (and that will definitely be upgraded)!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 12, 2012, 07:19:34 AM


Didn't know Triumphs had fuses!  Thought the whole harness was a fuse....
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on July 12, 2012, 09:51:24 AM
Nope, there was one fuse I found on the harness that fit in a shoebox when I dismantled the car!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2012, 09:53:25 AM

Quote from: dana44
Nope, there was one fuse I found on the harness that fit in a shoebox when I dismantled the car!
Lucus Electrics.  Ugh
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2012, 04:04:22 PM


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well here I was gaining on it, down to the radio and the horn.  The rest is all figured out and connected.

Now something went wrong with the pooter harness and the ECU is not getting a ground.  It was running until I started to tie up the harness.  Re checked my work and found a couple of mistakes.  Everything was fine until I wire tied up the EFI harness.  Everything else works, it just doesn't run.

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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2012, 04:05:11 PM


I found it!  I found the problem!  NOW I can start wraping up the EFI harness.

What baffles me is, that ground was never hooked up to anything!  It's run for 5 years like that.

Stan, the formal harness is a rat race as you already know,  There's allot more wires in there that I never saw.  I know it was greatly reduced in 79.  The 79 and 80's were wired more like the72 was.  Same functions, allot less wire.  Copper must have been cheap that yuear.  LOL

The Nightmare is tying 3 different harness's into the one to get everything to work like it should.  Or should I say 4 harness's.  I have my own in there for all the original mods I did.  Not finished there yet.  I have 3 unknowns yet and the rear blower.  I'm going to try to use the rear heater switch for the rear window blower since it's a latching switch.

Maybe it's just paying more attention to the wiring.  Some of those little gremlins will go away like the hard starting.  Once i grounded that one wire, it started right up.  In fact, I never heard it start that fast.

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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on July 12, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
I feel for you Steve. I helped a friend diagnose a 2001 LIghtning wirng harness that was half cut/half unconnected, some missing, for three weeks before he believed me when I said no key, no workie, security system interference. You know, there are actually a couple wires in that harness which require they be wrapped with another wire, just to prevent interference of the one wire and prevent RFI interference with the computer. Don't get a Ford, that's what I say.
 
TR4 didn't have a wire. I'm not sure what the fuse is for, will have to figure that out, probably the tail lights or cigarette lighter (which it didn't have, either)!
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 13, 2012, 08:09:22 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 14, 2012, 04:56:18 PM
Is it done yet?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 14, 2012, 06:50:01 PM


The connector for the horn relay is eluding me.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Tom Dawson on July 15, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
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Tom



Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 17, 2012, 09:15:59 PM


I went under the dash and started to bundle everything up and tie it back.  Did some wrapping too.  I don;t know how, but I killed the dash lights in the speedo cluster and lost the ground for the gauges.  Now I have to take the cluster all apart again and find out what went wrong.  Like the computer, it's better I find this stuff now.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 18, 2012, 08:01:52 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 19, 2012, 09:06:58 AM


What was wrong that you lost dash lights and gauges?  Can you get me a pic of the back side of the dash you pulled?  Interested in instrument cluster lighting.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 19, 2012, 09:51:24 AM


You have the indirect lighting on that don't you?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 19, 2012, 10:37:49 AM
I was just thinking about the Virgins dash lights was all.....
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 19, 2012, 01:10:05 PM


What about them?  They work great.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 19, 2012, 01:28:22 PM


Just wondering how they lit, these things interest me is all...;-)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 19, 2012, 07:08:15 PM


They're lit from the outside.  Quite attractive actually
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 19, 2012, 07:13:43 PM


ANYBODY HAVE ONE OF THOSE TABS THEY USE ON HEATER CABLES FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS?  iT'S THE LITTLE BLACK PIECE OF SPRING STEEL YOU PINCH AND SLIDE IT ON THE CABLE TO ADJUST.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 21, 2012, 04:12:35 PM


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Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on July 22, 2012, 06:31:38 AM

I do like the separate small gauge setup on the formals better, nicer than in the
speedo itself on the '72s. How will you fill the space between the pad and the
windshield? iirc the formals had a metal filler panel, unlike the
earlier type which was all pad, and led to all the cracking around the speaker and defroster vent outlets?
firedome2012-07-22 11:33:21
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 22, 2012, 07:48:33 AM


By the way Rog, until I get that pad out, you can see where the cracks are if you look close.  They're pretty nasty
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 22, 2012, 09:08:23 PM


Well Boys!

I am grateful for your help. I am over the hump now.

The last major dash project was installing a new radio and adding larger speakers to the dash.  I have 5 out of 6 speakers finished.  It sounds awsome.  Much better than the last radio.  4 more solder joints and I'm on my way to completion.  I should have the dash finished by Tuesday.  Then I get to play with the pilar covers.  The inner halves go right in perfectly, but the outers seemed to be an issue.

I still have to connect the bells and whistles for the computer.  I also have a few warning devices installed with warning lights.  I can tell when the fans are down, I have a manual override,  Overdrive Lockout, check engine light.  In the engine bay, I need to make an AC harness for the compressor, and I still have not tied in the headlights.  But I have it simplified in my mind.  (What there is of it)   AC Hises are a snap.  I need to modify one existing hose to close that up.  Put in a new dryer and I'm off and running.  I am way over schedule on this thing.

I decided not to wait for the clip to come.  I have another project that has them and I know one is missing anyway.  I used a 1/4" drill stop, (I had 4 of them) and a cut down 8/32 screw.  I put the screw through the eye on the end of the cable and cranked it down.  The threads were taperd differently to hold the set screw in place, so turning a machine screw was hard.  But I lock-tited it anyway.  Worked perfect!  Baffle is in, all I need to do is pad put the seal and put the pad on.

Stan, you old coot.  Thanks for all those pages you posted.  Owe ya one.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 23, 2012, 05:50:12 AM


So what's your next project?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on July 23, 2012, 03:46:21 PM

Stan hasn't been here in ages has he? But I bet he lurks here from time
to time, and  do miss that crazy ol' fart,  and I
don't like that C Body Only site... too blatantly commercial and
too many know it alls, a certain 70 Dodge owner and some others come to
mind. The Dry Dock is sorta OK. Stanley! We hardly knew Ye!

firedome2012-07-23 20:53:01
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 23, 2012, 04:00:25 PM



By the way, I'll have a picture with the filler panel on the top for you tomorrow.  I am bolting in the dash pad now.  Radio is in.  Tyhe pillar trim is going to be a problem.Warm up the heat gun.
POLARACO2012-07-23 21:02:46
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 23, 2012, 04:06:05 PM
Just dont forget to turn it off and burn your hands,old Pfft,LOL!
Looking good so far,Steve.
 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: steve sclafani on July 23, 2012, 04:08:09 PM


So will it be ready for Saturday Night at The Chatterbox?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 29, 2012, 03:08:08 PM


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0154.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 29, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
Now it is starting to look like a car.

Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2012, 06:48:03 PM
Well I have to say it looks better then I had though it would.  Can't wait to see how you tackle those pillar covers.

Great job so far Steve....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)



Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on July 29, 2012, 08:06:23 PM


I don't know what goes in the opening on the left.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: firedome on July 30, 2012, 04:30:55 AM
Looks pretty good!  How will you fill in the gap on the sides? You're right, almost every 69-73 had that dreaded knee crack in the lower corner, shouldn't have that problem anymore!


Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 02, 2012, 10:28:37 AM
Thanks Rog
 
It's actually easier to get in and out of now and there is more knee room.
 
Gonna make up a filler and wrap in in Vinyl.
 
BRIAN
 
I am getting ready to package up this vintage air to send through the channels.
 
POLARACO2012-08-02 15:41:15
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 02, 2012, 10:29:53 AM
Small update
 
I am starting to work on the console now.  I can just shrink the old one and rewrap it.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on August 04, 2012, 06:32:13 PM
Thanks Steve...I have a condensor, or two, kicking around.  Let me know what I owe you.  Thanks again.
 
 
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 05, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
I have to find an appropriate box first
 
I'll ship everything I can.
 
The main box, I have a brand new blower for it, controls, pooter,
 
I have some of the hoses for it.  You can get the wiring and instructions on line at Vintage air
 
Your cost will be UPS to Leaburns drop spot in NY.  Then he'll smuggle it over, so you'll have to pay him.  OR!  If you have a drop spot in the US, give me the address.
 
So your cost will be shipping and a buck 360.  LOL
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 05, 2012, 06:57:57 PM
I'm working on the console.  Haven't been around during the day and it's been raining at night so I haven't done much other than some badly needed service on my truck
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0162.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 09, 2012, 08:00:26 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0168.JPG)
 
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0173.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: AJ on August 09, 2012, 08:48:47 PM
Looking good, Steve!  I can't wait to check it out in person - very soon.  I will call you. ;)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 10, 2012, 06:00:45 AM
Quote from: evulution
Looking good, Steve!  I can't wait to check it out in person - very soon.  I will call you. ;)


 
Yeah Right
 
My kids will be collecting Social Security by then
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 10, 2012, 06:02:52 AM
Remember I said I had an intermittant short?  I think it was the clock
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: steve sclafani on August 10, 2012, 05:08:53 PM


Where will the Satellite Radio go?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 11, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
It's in there already




Here this looks a bit better lit up
 
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/100_0174.JPG)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on August 11, 2012, 08:42:55 PM
When are you going to wire a 2X4 to the gas pedal so you can control it a little bit better than with just your toes?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 12, 2012, 06:15:38 AM
Very funny smart ass.  I was just sitting there half in the seat to take the pic.
 
 
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT
 
How's the renovation coming?  You own a camera?
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Guests on August 14, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
Best way to do it is to start with a wiring diagram from a vehicle (any vehicle), which has the headlights with LED lights, then identify all the relays, where it connects to this and that, and simply take the existing wiring and change it all out.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 15, 2012, 03:59:19 AM
For HID you need to relay.  For LED, you shouldn't have to do anyting but connect to the circuit.  The draw allor less
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 17, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
My short is back. I'll have to pull the lower bezel and find it this time. No clue what it is. The car can go for a week or two and then drain the battery to stone dead in 8 hours. I have it isolated to the cars factory harness. Most everything else has been rewired. I thought it was the clock. But after pulling the plug, apparently not. There;s 4 feeds off the charging circut to the body. Plus I have two of my own feeders. I think it's something in the door light circuit now. In order to get my head liner lights to work, I have to use a relay. Seems to be an issue when I move the harness around behind the kick panel.
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 24, 2012, 03:11:59 PM


Hey I have Air Conditioning! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on August 24, 2012, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Hey I have Air Conditioning! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)


 
Sweet...just in time for the fall season....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Steve on August 24, 2012, 07:45:29 PM

Quote from: thrashingcows
 

 
Hey I tried (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: 78 Formal Dashboard in a 72 C Body
Post by: Brian on August 24, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
Sounds familiar....Wifes A/C went in her 02 COncorde during our last little heat wave.  I got a new pump, drier and Exp. valve, but was waiting on the O-ring kit.  Just got everything the other day.  Now that it's cool out she can have her A/C again....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)