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Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on March 20, 2012, 07:23:06 PM


 
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on March 20, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
Tank looks to be in pretty good condition outside, so call around, find a shop that boils them out, get it sealed  or get a kit to seal it yourself, like Eastwood. Nice project, good job on that carb.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Snotty on March 21, 2012, 11:57:32 AM
A good radiator shop can take care of that for you.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on March 21, 2012, 02:33:04 PM


i got a place that can boil it. i just dont kanow about the inline fuel filter made in the tank and also the sending unit in it is rough and i only found 2 online one for $189 and another NOS $258 =O crazy price
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on March 21, 2012, 03:01:58 PM


Cbarge is pretty knowledgeable.  It's just how the tubes are bent
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on March 21, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
SOAK IT IN MOLASSES FOR STARTERS! Once she is cleaned up, then you can spray it with zinc coating or get it zinc coated.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: firedome on March 21, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
Molasses? that's a new one for me... what/how does that do?

Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on March 21, 2012, 06:11:29 PM
Look up the molasses stuff, here, or on the net, molasses for cleaning. It will get rid of all the rust and look very good. Steve knows about it.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on March 21, 2012, 07:17:14 PM


Well got all the rubber undercoating stripped away today going in the am to see about  haveing  the tank  boiled.  Got the sending unit apart and actually working :D :D  just got to find something that will clean the copper up  its full of green  corrosion but need something that doesnt harm the rubber on it. Any hints lol and the molasses ive seen that on youtube lol.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on March 21, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
VINEGAR . Let it soak in it for about ten minues, check on it. She will turn beautiful copper color in no time, depending on how bad it really is. I think I have soaked some copper objects about 15 minutes and look brand new, and no, no kidding on the copper cleaning with vinegar.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on March 31, 2012, 04:29:25 PM


Updates soon
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2012, 04:51:44 PM


Good calls Ed
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2012, 04:52:55 PM


Oh yeah. . . Lemmon juice brings a carb back to it's original color.  But lemon juice is not good for grease.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 31, 2012, 10:15:52 PM
I used acetone to clean out my tank.Add some crushed stone as an agitiator.
Acetone evaorates,so it cannot soak in the tank.
You have to pour it in,swich it untill all the crap is loosened off,then empty it.
Repeat if needed,then flush with water.
Let tank dry.
i do recommend using the eastwood tank sealer for good measure.
BTW,bending your own brake and fuel lines is easy.Get a goodd quality tube bender and take your time replicating the original lines.
It may take some time,but much cheaper than buying pre=bent lines--if you can find them, for your car.
Hope this helps.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2012, 06:14:54 AM


Actually you'll need several different benders for the lines.  Some of the fuel lines can be a bear to form.  Nrake lines are pretty easy
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 01, 2012, 07:50:22 AM


Well i found the only line i have to replace is the one going to the rear and thats all pretty stright the fuel line isnt rusted and so ill see if i can re use that seeing its all ready on the car. Thr front lines are good and are not rusted or leaking. so i think brake line wont be to bad for me to do.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on April 01, 2012, 07:57:51 AM
For safety, replace the three rubber flex lines, old ones tend to separate inside and hold pressure against the brakes, so just really good insurance.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 01, 2012, 08:11:07 AM


i planned in that  i found them on rock auto so the 2 front will interchange with each other?  And i was going to order the one from the master cyl to dist block but thay dont have it in stock.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on April 01, 2012, 11:52:07 AM
The two front ones should be interchangeable, there isn't one from the master cylinder to the distribution block, it should be hard line, but there should also be one from the rear body to the rear end.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 01, 2012, 12:11:42 PM


ok and no theres a rubber from the master cylinder.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on April 01, 2012, 04:41:04 PM
That seems extremely odd even for a single master cylinder back in 1956. Granted I haven't seen everything, but that is definitely a first on me.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2012, 04:45:33 PM


Front hoses are interchangable unless they were sold as left and right hose.  I've seen that before.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 01, 2012, 06:10:12 PM


yea rock auto parts list the front 2 as the same ones and has the rear>plus has the one from the master cyl to the T block but it list different ones for auto and std trans cars.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Guests on April 01, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Interesting. I would update to a dual master cylinder and proportioning valve at this time. If you have to replace stuff, do it all at once and be done with it once. Since you have drums all the way around, find something with drums all the way around and the master cylinder and proportioning valve will work just fine. Get rid of the dangerous single master cyinder, and on second thought, is there anyone that knows if spindles can be changed at the same time for front disc brakes?
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: firedome on April 02, 2012, 03:48:28 AM

I'd go to a dual cylinder too, plan to on my '58. A late 60s Dart
master cylinder has been often used for this on ForwardLook cars, you can get
that at any NAPA.  Pretty cheap to do and for sure a good safety
update.  If not make sure the emergency brake is good!



Hey are you gonna check out that '57 DeSoto coupe at Rustic? Think several guys are interested.

I'm curious whether the Poly engines are in any of those
Chryslers.  I'll be up for the weekend, first visit of the
season...and it's gonna be nice weather... WOOT!


firedome2012-04-02 08:49:39
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 02, 2012, 04:59:00 AM


And im going to try and get up there this week to check with him and look at the cars.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2012, 04:59:38 AM


Lookin Cars for Sale On Line
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on April 03, 2012, 06:10:20 PM


yea i seen that to bad its away from my area
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on May 28, 2012, 04:13:54 AM


well havt been on here for a bit but did somethings to the car most all chrome put back on except bumpers  got the bad spots in floor fixed  seats back in got turn signals working. Recently been doing the dual master cylinder swap og one from a 68 dart v8 new remain going to use my old dist block and got a plug for the rear line port all i need to know is on this master cylinder is the front the front and rear the rear?? and do i have to put a coil in the lines? i know on the darts theres a single coil from what i can see in the pics.
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: firedome on May 28, 2012, 08:11:55 AM
Been wondering how it's coming...sounds lke good progress -  how about some pics!! Not sure about the brakes/coils in line.

Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on May 28, 2012, 08:32:34 AM


yea ill deff get some pics maybe a video lol and yea been over on forwardlook.net but havnt been getting anything helpfull from them
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on May 28, 2012, 12:24:01 PM


 
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on May 28, 2012, 02:51:11 PM


Adjust the bands on that slush box.  The forward reverse band was a problem,
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on May 28, 2012, 04:01:36 PM


???
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: Steve on May 28, 2012, 06:01:35 PM


I'm heading up your way in August
Title: 56 Plymouth Belvedere Project
Post by: mike on May 28, 2012, 06:38:33 PM


i dont see no prob with it. from sitting for a long time it was low on fluid now i added some its right there and feels good