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Techical Discussions => General Tech- - BRAKES => Topic started by: John B. on May 27, 2011, 05:54:05 PM

Title: Dodge Van
Post by: John B. on May 27, 2011, 05:54:05 PM
Hi Guys; Looking at a 73' Dodge Tradesman Van, with disc brakes. Will they fit the same as the 73' car assy's. Looking to add to the stash for future projects!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  John.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 27, 2011, 06:40:17 PM


Absolutely NOT
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Guests on May 28, 2011, 08:49:33 AM
The truck (van) brakes are larger, totally different suspension system. Front disc brakes for the B vans can't be that rare in the junkyards, but a few checking of parts for years covered may find they cover a larger area than you would think. If the balljoints on top and bottom are the same, then the spindle and rotors, etc., will swap easily enough. Do some interchange checking, but know they don't swap with the cars.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 28, 2011, 01:44:59 PM
Blah Blah Blah   Thanks Ed.  I didn't have time to go into that explaination.  But it answered the question.  LOL
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: John B. on May 28, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Thanks guys; saved me a trip to go look!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif) Keep looking for the elusive 73' C-Body!
                                                                                                                      John.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Guests on May 28, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
No problem, I kind of explain things as I know them, or theorize when I don't.

Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 29, 2011, 07:12:43 AM
So you baffle with brilliance  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Guests on May 29, 2011, 09:00:07 AM
Sometimes, yes, but it is usually in the right direction that a person can figure out what I am trying to relay or apply the basic to the specific. I usually have content to what I say. I say usually because there are times I am off base or out in left field, and I will admit mistakes when I am wrong. To err is human, to BS is not the intent.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 29, 2011, 01:22:12 PM

Quote from: dana44
Sometimes, yes, but it is usually in the right direction that a person can figure out what I am trying to relay or apply the basic to the specific. I usually have content to what I say. I say usually because there are times I am off base or out in left field, and I will admit mistakes when I am wrong. To err is human, to BS is not the intent.
Boy you can say that again (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Jason Goldsack on May 29, 2011, 01:42:11 PM

If the van is in good shape it would make a cool custom...

(http://mailhiot.com/wp/wp-content/gallery/IOTW/1977%20Dodge%20Van.jpg)



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Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Snotty on May 29, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: lebaron413
Thanks guys; saved me a trip to go look!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif) Keep looking for the elusive 73' C-Body!
                                                                                                                      John.




 
John, if you're looking for a '73 disk set-up, your search does not have to be '73 only.  It's '73-'78.  The recommendation is usually, "Find '73 and newer."  I put '71s on my '70 and they work fine.  The problem was the $400 I paid for new rotors.  That's why people recommend '73 and newer.   Your cause is not lost.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: John B. on May 30, 2011, 07:11:51 PM
Thanks for the pep talk! I'm just doing the swap on my 66' T&C wagon, from Budds to 73' discs. I'm missing 2 of the large 5/8" fine bolts that are used for mounting, are they still available? no luck here locally! John.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 30, 2011, 07:39:48 PM


Oh Gee   The ones on the drums are the same.  No?
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Snotty on May 31, 2011, 08:50:30 AM
Quote from: lebaron413
I'm missing 2 of the large 5/8" fine bolts that are used for mounting, are they still available? no luck here locally! John.


 
Do you have a "Nuts and Bolt" shop?  I needed to replace mine when I did the swap as the originals were too rusted.  I was able to find the correct size at "The Bolt House," a local shop.  But, they did not have the hole for the cotter pin.  The man told me those were no longer made.  Whether that is true or not I don't know, but he suggested using two nuts on the end of the bolt as a way to lock them.  This is what I've done and it has worked well.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Steve on May 31, 2011, 10:30:50 AM


Scott.  The spindle nuts haven't been castle nuts in years.  That's what the little cap is for.  But a castle nut will work if you know the thread pitch.  But as said above, I think it's the same nut from the drums
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Guests on May 31, 2011, 03:28:23 PM
Should be able to get them from any of the V8 era cars, they went to a swedge nut for a little bit more tightness (75lb-ft torque rarely comes loose anyway), but if you want period correct looks (on a van???), use the original as a guide and drill a hole for the cotter pin.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: John B. on May 31, 2011, 05:12:53 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Oh Gee   The ones on the drums are the same.  No?


  
  I'm swapping from Budd Disc to 73' C-body disc! the Budds dont use the same mount bolts(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) Been checking a few bolt places, no luck so far. Ahh gotta love them mopars!
 John.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Snotty on May 31, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: dana44
use the original as a guide and drill a hole for the cotter pin.


 
The guy I bought mine from said that could be done, but if not done right would screw up the threads.  That's why I took his advice and used the second nut.
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Snotty on May 31, 2011, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: dana44
Should be able to get them from any of the V8 era cars,

That's a good thought/suggestion.  Do you have any other cars in the yard near you?
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: John B. on May 31, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
Quote from: Snotty
Quote from: dana44
Should be able to get them from any of the V8 era cars,

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Well, up here in the Gr. White North, not many (read none)wrecking yards with 70's Chryslers in them anymore. The crushers got them all years back! I've got a Mopar wrecker  whos checking his "private stash" at home. Keep my fingers crossed!
Title: Dodge Van
Post by: Snotty on June 01, 2011, 09:45:32 AM
If I had some time I could look for you here.  Alas, I'm moving so my spare time is all but gone.