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Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 05, 2010, 11:23:05 AM
The wiper arms on my '70 Newport have stopped recessing.  They are staying up and will stop in any position I turn off the switch.  But, even if I push, they will not recess.
 
Any thoughts?
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2010, 11:37:45 AM
yeah
 
Time for a new motor
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 05, 2010, 11:44:28 AM
There's only on e person for this:
http://www.julesdaddio.com/index.html (http://www.julesdaddio.com/index.html)
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2010, 12:11:52 PM
A rebuilt is less expensive, faster and more efficient.  It's not a rare car
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 05, 2010, 02:02:27 PM
Quote from: Commando1
There's only on e person for this:

Jules in not too far away from me.
Being only 3 hours away,I had seen his work first hand at local shows on other Mopars.
He is highly recommended and people are happy with his quality of workmanship.
For what he does,his prices are reasonable.Sure,more than a rebuild from a parts jobber,but that's his specialty..
 
"You can do a few things ok,or do one thing really,really well."
 
Parts jobber ones are OK,but some have experienced where one core was "rebuilt' a few too many times past its life and was deemed unreliable.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2010, 02:40:15 PM
I never had that problem Lea. . .  Rebuilts aren't super great, but they work.
 
It could be just the park switch on the front of the unit.  I happen to have an NOS one. . .If I can find it
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 06, 2010, 09:51:19 AM
Steve, you have a NOS wiper motor?  How much do you want for it?  I'm sure I can find one at a junk yard, but I'd rather have one that has not been used if possible.
 
It has periodically done this since I get it, but it has stopped totally.  I thought it might be the switch. 
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 06, 2010, 09:52:57 AM
Quote from: Commando1
There's only on e person for this:

 
Thanks Stan, but I'll have to check this at home.  Computer's too slow here.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 06, 2010, 09:55:08 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
It's not a rare car
 
Oh, oh, sure...
 
 
Offend me!!!
 
Sheesh, ask for friends for help and what do you get?
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 06, 2010, 10:04:00 AM
Now Now. . . .  If you are going to crawl into a corner and cry, take a paper towel with you.  LOL
 
You know what I meant. . . .
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 06, 2010, 10:13:21 AM
Do I?  [color=#ff0000 size=5]DO I???? [/color]
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 06, 2010, 01:36:02 PM
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Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Herman on October 07, 2010, 12:44:20 AM
Perhaps the wipers don't recess because they expect more rain... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 07, 2010, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: BigBlockMopar
Perhaps the wipers don't recess because they expect more rain... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Oh, you're just jealous!!!  Besides, we've had about .008" of rain these past 2 days.  We get rain.  Sheesh! 
 
Ha!  Seriously, we have had some sprinkles and rain since Sunday; it's been nice.  It's not good for my Farmers though. 
 
 
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 07, 2010, 08:57:50 AM
OK, (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)  (Never thought I'd post that.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif))
Quote from: Snotty
Steve, you have a NOS wiper motor?  How much do you want for it?  I'm sure I can find one at a junk yard, but I'd rather have one that has not been used if possible.
 
 
Steve, I know you saw my joke, but did you see this question?  Thanks Buddy.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 07, 2010, 02:05:04 PM
2 speed or 3 speed?  I think I do somewhere
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 08, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
3-speed with "park" (recess) feature.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Butch Houghton on October 09, 2010, 04:34:31 AM
Snotty,  try a couple of thing before you buy a whole new one.

Re-solder all the connections on the gear housing.  I had one get intermittent years ago fro a cold solder joint & that fixed that one.

You can remove the gear housing cover plat ( with the wires soldered on top )  & take a look at the Park points on the underside.    Before you pop the cover mark it's orientation to the housing,  If it gets off it can cause more issues.    When you get the cover off the points are just under & you'll see the actual park cam on top of the main gear.  The points are what trigger the motor into reverse so it slide into the cam to park them.  The arm on the points should be straight ( not curved as in this pic...I did straighten them ) & you can file them just like an old set of distributor points & get them clean.    I got that little bit of info from Jules about 6 years ago when I was working on it for the Fury.   Fixed it on mine & worth a try.

(http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz226/Butch-H/Picture235.jpg)

Butch




Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 09, 2010, 03:27:10 PM
Hi Butch. . .Glad to see you
 
I mentioned that earlier, but it seems to not have stuck.  I have an NOS switch here somewhere
 
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Stitcherbob on October 09, 2010, 08:18:51 PM


Quote from: Snotty
The wiper arms on my '70 Newport have stopped recessing.  They are staying up and will stop in any position I turn off the switch.  But, even if I push, they will not recess.
 


Snotty, Snotty, Snotty....... sheesh...I'll bet that wiper motor never had to break frozen wiper blades free from it's icy windshield.....or are East Coast and Canadian wiper motors tougher, just like those of us who live here? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

CA cars get the CA emissions package which includes a weak-kneed wiper motor and heater system....plus cooling systems that can stand a lot of idling in CA traffic jams (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
stitcherbob2010-10-10 01:22:42
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Butch Houghton on October 10, 2010, 06:34:55 AM
Kinda like Bob says ,  they're pretty tuff.  I have broken Ice loose with mine & it still works fine.

Shouldn't need any NOS parts unless the points are broken.  Just clean & adjust.   That metal plate on the Plastic gear is what triggers the points to send it into reverse & the channels in the gear are what guide it to the park position.

I took the gear out of mine & used white lithium inside to freshen it all & un-soldered all the wires since the covering on the solid wire coming out of the motor is a fabric kinda stuff & heatshrinked them all.

I just did my Darts motor too & found this out.   The pic above is apparently just for the recessed wiper setup. You have the cam arrangement & the connections to the wiper linkage are just posts.    The Darts motor look identical outside but has no cam assy inside or points.  Non-recess type obviously on the Dart.    The park function on those is the plastic cam assy on the motor arm that connects to the linkage.

So if you're gonna replace you need to verify which one it is first.

Butch


Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 13, 2010, 10:22:54 AM
Took mine cover off yesterday; all looked well.  Points were clean and working.  I could get the motor to go into "reverse" but it still wound not park - just kept running backwards.  When turned off they returned to what they were doing before - running fine but not reversing.
 
Steve, I'm looking forward to receiving the new motor you sent.  Thanks!
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 14, 2010, 05:23:25 AM
Just needs a cleaning
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 14, 2010, 06:56:35 AM
I was there when Steve found it.it is in good shape and even the cad plating is decent.
He was looking for something else when he discovered it hiding among other sctuff in his storage locker,LOL!!
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 14, 2010, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Just needs a cleaning


 
Steve, it's clean, it just isn't working.  Sometimes things just go bad.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2010, 09:20:39 PM
Maybe the wiring is different.  Check that out
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
You could swap the motors too
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 16, 2010, 06:29:51 PM
Steve, the one you sent arrived yesterday.  I'll let you know what happens when I install it.  Thanks! 
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 16, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
You putz
 
I thought you were talking about the one I sent you.  Sheeesh.  When we said clean, we meant my motor.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 18, 2010, 08:10:11 AM
You know what they say about assumptions - I had not even received that motor while I was writing any of the previous stuff.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 18, 2010, 11:18:33 AM
http://www.restorick.com/tech/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57 (http://www.restorick.com/tech/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57)


Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Steve on October 18, 2010, 03:15:18 PM
Well?  Is it done?????
 
It only takes 1/2 an hour, with the beer!  Or a full plate of shrimp in your case.  (That's the first time I have brought that up since Oregon.  I pormised I wouldn't tell)
 
 
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Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 19, 2010, 09:27:02 AM
No, not done yet.  I've been eating too much shrimp - had it with dinner last night and it was good!
 
Seriously, I only do work on my cars on Fridays, and right now my Fridays are being interrupted by rehearsals for another play that I'm in.  I fixed the Stratus and changed its oil last Friday.  The wiper motor was waiting for me when I returned that evening.  I'll get to it this Friday.
Title: Wipers not recessing
Post by: Snotty on October 22, 2010, 09:42:46 AM
Put the other motor in today - it works!
 
Steve, I did not see the shipping cost on the box; please let me know what I owe you in that department.  Thanks Buddy!