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Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 03, 2010, 05:11:05 AM
Hey Gang

Since I sold my '62 Savoy and the '64 300 turned into on of those epic long term projects. I'm looking for a nice driver that the family and I can just drive and enjoy.

I've narrowed the list of what I want down but need some info on a few things.

Whatever we end up with has to seat 4 kids and two adults. That pretty much rules out anything with buckets in front. Two doors most likely as well (having sat in the middle in a split bench car sucked after a while, I think I still have a crease in my back from it LOL!) so a 4 door is high on the list although I have some concerns about little fingers opening the doors as there are no child saftey locks back there (then).

An A100 (8 door preferred) is highest but I also like the looks of the '69 Polara's and Fury's. But, having only seen generic photos of them, it's kinda hard to judge what the back seat looks like or how big it is (I need to fit at least two slightly bulky car seats back there....one is rear facing and can't touch the back of the front seat). The two older kids are in boosters that take up minimal space, one of course, will  sit up front in the middle.

A wagon is also on the list but the War Dept has ruled out the use of a rear facing third row seat (which means getting all parties concerned in the front and back seats). Another 'Slab side wagon is also on the list. Poor Waldo required to much work to get going but a Waldo the second that's in better shape would be nice!

A crew cab pick up is on the list...but probably not an option as California like to tag those with weight fees and call them "commercial vehicles".....and that gets real expensive.

I guess in all my ramblings I'm asking if anybody has a '69 Polara or Fury they would be willing to shoot some photos of and take a few measurements? Got a lock on the others as I've laid hands on them before and they are a known quantity.

Also, any known maint/breakage issues?  What to look for if I'm looking at one. Rust areas etc (back window, right?)

A big C-Body would probably be a bit safer than an A-100 too.....wrecks do happen.

Thanks in advance!

Rob
Ridgecrest Ca.


Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: firedome on October 03, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
Any C-body '69-73 4-dr would have essentialy the same dimensions in the
front and rear bench seats, and '74-77 C bodies are just as big. I've
had em all, wagons and sedans. You won't find a bigger car. 

Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Steve on October 03, 2010, 04:50:01 PM
Correct.  They were vertually the same basic body in 74 as in 69.  The exterior sheet metal changed and there were certain upgrades.
 
Actually, 74 to 79 had the best interiors of all the years.
 
I should have built Polaraco on a 74 or 75 Grand something.
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Bob Schaefer on October 03, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
I grew up in a '69 Polara wagon, and had a brother and a sister. We used to go on a 350 mile trip from Chicago up to Northern Wisconsin every year with no problems. Of course, that was before the need to utilize child safety seats...
 
Currently, I have a '69 Monaco wagon, so let me know what sort of shots you want, and what measurements, and I'd be glad to accommodate.
 
Bob
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 03, 2010, 06:59:04 PM
1978 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham Salon Edition.  Rarest of the rare and every option  was standard. Beautiful color combination that stands up to the test of time.  The ultimate in roomy decadance. 
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
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Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 04, 2010, 03:14:05 AM
True.  True.  It was missing the most important thing....
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Brian on October 04, 2010, 07:32:46 AM
Rob...I can't remember what happened with your old wagon?  

Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 04, 2010, 08:45:19 AM
Quote from: schaefman
I grew up in a '69 Polara wagon, and had a brother and a sister. We used to go on a 350 mile trip from Chicago up to Northern Wisconsin every year with no problems. Of course, that was before the need to utilize child safety seats...
 
Currently, I have a '69 Monaco wagon, so let me know what sort of shots you want, and what measurements, and I'd be glad to accommodate.
 
 
Thanks Bob
 
A photo or two of the front and back seat. Seat belt mounts (shoulder belts?). The back of the back seat (gotta figure out how to mount tether strap anchors for the car seats in either a wagon or sedan/coupe). I realise that the shoulder belts in the late 60's were more of a hazard than not wearing them at all (in some cases). My dear wife is real pickey about things like this......
 
Is there a set of belts for the middle of the front bench?
 
There's an aftermarket 4 point belt system available to retrofit most older cars and they're designed for kids. Friends of ours have them in their old Vanagon.
 
How wide is the back seat from door arm rest to door arm rest? Not to worried about seat back to back of front seat at this point!
 
Thanks!
 
Rob
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 04, 2010, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: thrashingcows
Rob...I can't remember what happened with your old wagon?  
 
Brian
 
The first wagon was the '66 Town & Country. I sold that one to Chris in Arizona as it was way to much for me to tackle restoration wise.
 
The second wagon fell into my lap.....it was a '62 Plymouth Savoy. I recently sold it to a guy on Moparts.....it arrived at it's new home in Mini-Rusta last week. It wasn't near as bad as the '66....but still required more that I had time for or could afford.
 
At this point, I need something that is a nice driver....not another project! Already got one of those ('64 300 non-letter 2dr, in partialy exploded view).
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: firedome on October 04, 2010, 11:01:09 AM
I agree with Stan 'n Steve, the 74-78s were the plushest,  and
they also had the best ride, I had 2 76/77 Gran Furys and a 77 
Newport besides all my fuseys... The NYB was the real plushmobile, my
cousin had one of those.  The later Cs were also considerably more
sluggish, especially than fusealge Cs, in stock form, with all the post
'73 emission junk, that can be changed.  However I myself prefer
the 69-71s for their more spartan and lively character. 

Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2010, 12:59:56 PM
I'm either going to make Polaraco more plush inside or find a later Newpie myself.  Transplant everything over from Polaraco
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 04, 2010, 03:35:20 PM
With 4 kids I need spartan! Plush collects kidtrius (that peculiar form of detrius that only kids can produce!). Rubber floor covering would be nice too. Also, in California, I'd rather not have to worry about smog checks. Style wise...below '71. Above that is just.....bleh. But that's just me.

Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: firedome on October 05, 2010, 04:13:53 AM
'69s had the older style smaller conventional bumpers. '70 and 71 Plyms
are virtually identical style wise with loop bumpers front & rear.
'72 had the double loop bumper out front. By '73 they were back to
conventional bumpers, ever bigger.  I prefer the loop style, but
that's a personal thing... you might get lucky and find a Fury 1 with
rubber floors instead of carpets, and all vinyl seats, but they are
rare rare rare. No-one repops those floor mats. Paul Amato in FL has
been looking for years.



Steve 74-78 Newpies aren't hard to find, I remember reading in Motor
Trend or someplace, in the late '70s that Chrysler had the oldest
demographic of ANY car, even Cadillac. Old folks bought them, took care
of them, hung onto them... about 6-7 yrs ago I bought a burgundy '77
Newport 4 dr hardtop 400 engine, in Gettysburg PA,  that had only
42 k on it and was near mint, for $1500.  Drove it to VT no
problem. They are still out there.



Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 05, 2010, 05:44:37 AM
Not that this one interests me but.....
 
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/1986311259.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/1986311259.html)
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 05, 2010, 08:25:04 AM


Quote from: 66gg1tnc
Not that this one interests me but.....
 

  http://www.limos.com/operators/stars-r-us-limousine-service-inc-rancho-cucamonga (http://www.limos.com/operators/stars-r-us-limousine-service-inc-rancho-cucamonga)
Commando12010-10-05 13:29:14
Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Rob Roche on October 08, 2010, 04:11:21 PM
Well...didn't end up with a C-Body....found this on Flea-Bag. Going to pick it up this Sunday.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150500713162&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Lots of room to haul the family about in. Looking forward to hitting Fall Fling in it!


Title: '69 Polara or Fury intel needed
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 09, 2010, 02:15:34 AM
It's the ultra rare Plymouth, too.