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Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 13, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
Big Red is here. . .   I just finally got into the car itself.  Last year I dropped the 413 in, but that was about it.
 
First thing, right off the bat, was to get a drive shaft installed.  All the shafts I have are too short..  Chris and I have been exchanging emails over that.  I found one locally though.  Thanks for all that trouble Chris.
 
I'm going to work this in reverse.  I have all the interior out of the 4 door, and a carpet I bought years ago for my 66.  So to get that out of the way, I will get the interior fixed up.  The interior needs so little, I think Elaine and I can handle most of the repairs, except the head liner.   If I ever have the money, I'll have it all done over.  But I need to get new foam for the seats in the mean time.
 
The drivers window is missing.  Chris sent along a glass and a motor, but the rest is missing.  A friend of mine has a 66 2 door he's stripped, I'm hoping I can shake him down for the parts.
 
So far, I'm off to a rough start.
 
Pictures to follow
 
POLARACO2010-06-14 00:19:23
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 14, 2010, 03:08:30 AM
I thought that car was in Florida.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 14, 2010, 04:59:59 AM
That's the 62 300H
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2010, 06:31:48 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Rex. . .where did you get your seat foam?


 
I got the bucket foams from Legendary but the upholsterer said he had to heavily modify them to work.  The rear seat was stuffed with cotton like the original.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Tom Dawson on June 14, 2010, 01:41:19 PM
So GIT-R-DON
Tom


Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 14, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
That's the 62 300H
So when do I go get it?
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 14, 2010, 05:22:39 PM
You may be baby sitting it for me
 
That's why I have been calling you lately.  But we both brain fart and I never talk about it
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 15, 2010, 04:26:25 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
You may be baby sitting it for me

 
#1.  Will it fit in my garage
#2.  For how long
Commando12010-06-15 09:28:11
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2010, 10:15:46 AM
Yes it will fit. . . .   I have the title, so that's covered. . . .
 
You can have it. . .I'll pick it up when it's finished.  LOL  It will be a basket case.
 
How long?  When you're done and it's driveable.  LOL
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Marc on June 16, 2010, 10:21:47 AM
He wants you to put a pink frost tint on the windows for him while its there to.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2010, 10:44:39 AM
In a 300H?  I would think Lavender would be better
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Dan Cluley on June 16, 2010, 08:15:20 PM
Steve,  I've got some extra window stuff, so send me a message with exactly what you need.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2010, 08:23:12 PM
I have glass coming now Dan.  It was shipped today.  I don't think I have the correct power regulator.  I'll know when the glass gets here.  I think I have everything.  What I do have looks just like the stuff I took out of the Fury


 
Edit
OOPS!  Rude of me
POLARACO2010-06-17 01:24:08
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: rexus31
Quote from: POLARACO
Rex. . .where did you get your seat foam?


 


 
Is the faom from Year One the same as the foam from Ledgendary?
 
I have to take these seats apart and clean them real good.  There's a couple of repairs needed we're going to try to do ourselves.
 
For the cost, the white seats a re pretty inexpensive.  I may just buy new covers.  In time.
 
Anything is better than this mess
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65seats1.jpg)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2010, 08:39:55 PM
Here's some more to look at

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65seats11.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65seats22.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65seats33.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Dash1.jpg)
 
Yeah Yeah Yeah. . .It's the wrong color (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Engine1.jpg)
 
My firewall seems to be different than Rex's
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Engine2.jpg)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Rich on June 16, 2010, 10:12:17 PM
Is the seat foam pre-cut, or just big blocks you have to sculpt yourself?

Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 06:48:23 AM
it's supposed to be preformed.  It's an injected process
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 17, 2010, 07:39:07 AM
Very cool.  Are your fiberglass seat bottom covers intact?
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 17, 2010, 07:53:00 AM
You can mail an inquiry to Chrysler Historical and get a copy of the IBM Punch Card and a decode of the fender tag.  I believe the cost was around $40.
 
Here's mine:
 
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/rexus31/IBMPunchCard.jpg)
 
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/rexus31/ChryslerHistorical1.jpg)
 
Here's what's left of the Broadcast Sheet:
 
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/rexus31/BroadcastSheet.jpg)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 08:22:32 AM
Quote from: rexus31
Very cool.  Are your fiberglass seat bottom covers intact?


 
Yep! and from the replacement seats from the 4 door too.
 
The 4 door had a power passenger seat, so I am going to install that since I need to reharness the interior anyway.
 
I took the seats out last night.  Going to take the dash apart this weekend and replace the dash pad.  Polish up the dash pieces too.  Tomorrow I am running up to the paint supply asnd getting some fresh ebamel for the dash so it can be painted.  Then I get to put all this back together!  Best time is when the seats and carpet are out.
 
I have to change the fuel tank too. 
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 17, 2010, 08:26:43 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Quote from: rexus31
Very cool.  Are your fiberglass seat bottom covers intact?


 
Yep! and from the replacement seats from the 4 door too.
 
The 4 door had a power passenger seat, so I am going to install that since I need to reharness the interior anyway.
 
I took the seats out last night.  Going to take the dash apart this weekend and replace the dash pad.  Polish up the dash pieces too.  Tomorrow I am running up to the paint supply asnd getting some fresh ebamel for the dash so it can be painted.  Then I get to put all this back together!  Best time is when the seats and carpet are out.
 


 
Fun, fun, fun.  With no projects on the horizon I'm a bit bored.  Too bad you weren't closer.  I'd come over and give ya a hand.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 08:28:18 AM
It's only 3600 miles. . . .  Bring the vert.  I'll take pictures next to my buddies 66 300 Vert.  Same colors
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 17, 2010, 08:36:47 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
It's only 3600 miles. . . .  Bring the vert.  I'll take pictures next to my buddies 66 300 Vert.  Same colors


 
LMAO!
 
Are you planning on pulling the dash assembly?
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 09:54:48 AM
No, although it can come out without pulling the windshield. . .
 
I'm just going to work the frame where it is.
 
I am going to gut it to the frame and pull the heater box so I can replace the hoses and heater core.  That will let me detail the firewall also.  Goint to be a trick with that motor in there.  I'm not pulling that sucker again.
 
I am just going to change the engine color after the fire wall is done.  Need to strip all the crap off it first and replace the carb anyway.  Going to restore the A/C as well
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 17, 2010, 10:39:38 AM
Here we go, another unfinished project....
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 10:46:32 AM
Good thing we have word filtering. . .
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 17, 2010, 01:52:50 PM
I'd pull the dash if you can.  Reinstalling the A/C plenum with the dash in place is going to be a challenge.  MUCH easier with the dash out of the way.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
I remember my 66.  I'll manage
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
Anybody know where the most common place for these 65's to leak in the front?  I have a puddle on the passenger side and need to lock it down before I install the new carpet
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Dan Cluley on June 17, 2010, 06:46:32 PM
Mine had two spots over there. 

One was the corner of the windshield gasket  That will drip onto the glovebox and then to the floor.  With the fiberboard glovebox, should be easy to tell(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Second was the seam where the bottom of the cowl meets the firewall.  Crud goes in through the vents by the wipers, and accumulates in the nooks and crannys inside the cowl.  After patching that up, I added some black aluminum window screen to the inside of the vent slots.  It's practically invisible, but keeps the leaves, and such from dropping through.
 
 
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 19, 2010, 04:33:51 PM
Thanks Dan
 
I just looked at the windshield gasket, looked supprisingly good.  But sinse I'm not pulling the shield, I am going to pack some beutal sealant under it anyway.
 
I'll have to get the glove box open. . . .   There's no lock.  I'll have to dig one up.
 
Between last night and today, I pulled the interior, scrubbed the floors, washed, dried, vacuumed, washed, vaccumed again. . .   I just primed the drivers side after making sure I had all the loose stuff up.  There wasn't much.  The floors are in excellent shape.  Just the front passenger floor is a bit rough, but solid.  I'm going to sand that, spray some rust converter on it and then prime it.  When I'm done, I'm going to put a thin coat of that bed liner spray on the floors.  Then I'll brush on the some seam sealer on all the joints.  Then I have to get some paint.  In the mean time, I'll be tackling the dashboard.   The seats are coming out real nice, but the foam is shot.  So I'll be ordering that sometime.  Going to get it running tomorrow, so it will move under it's own steam.  Then I get to tackle the brakes.
 
Doing a disc conversion on the front.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 19, 2010, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Thanks Dan
 
I just looked at the windshield gasket, looked supprisingly good.  But sinse I'm not pulling the shield, I am going to pack some beutal sealant under it anyway.
 
I'll have to get the glove box open. . . .   There's no lock.  I'll have to dig one up.
 
Between last night and today, I pulled the interior, scrubbed the floors, washed, dried, vacuumed, washed, vaccumed again. . .   I just primed the drivers side after making sure I had all the loose stuff up.  There wasn't much.  The floors are in excellent shape.  Just the front passenger floor is a bit rough, but solid.  I'm going to sand that, spray some rust converter on it and then prime it.  When I'm done, I'm going to put a thin coat of that bed liner spray on the floors.  Then I'll brush on the some seam sealer on all the joints.  Then I have to get some paint.  In the mean time, I'll be tackling the dashboard.   The seats are coming out real nice, but the foam is shot.  So I'll be ordering that sometime.  Going to get it running tomorrow, so it will move under it's own steam.  Then I get to tackle the brakes.
 


 
Sweet!  Any pics?
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 19, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: rexus31
   




Boy!  You want everything!!!
 
I just sprayed in the bed liner and came in.  I'll take some in the morning.  That stuff should seal the floor forever.  i used that Rustoleum red primer.  That stuff sticks to everything.  Tomorow, I'll finish cleaning the passenger side.
 
I meant to tell you, I spent 2 hours flushing a mouse nest out of the radiator..  The rad is a  recore, so I got lucky there.  It's in great shape.  Cleaned up the engine pullys, painted and primed.  Had to braze up a hole in the replacement gas tank.  Someone punched a hole in it to drain it
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 20, 2010, 05:51:05 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Quote from: rexus31
   
Someone punched a hole in it to drain it



 
Nice.  Some people should own Chebbies.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 20, 2010, 08:25:26 AM
That's OK. . .There was a buncj of varnish in the tank. . .Maybe a pint oozed out after it lit up on the tank.  LOL
 
Guess I better get a lining kit for it
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 20, 2010, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
My radiator shop told me all I had to do:
1.  Wash it out good with Tide laundry detergent.
2.  Slosh around 2 coats of  POR-15 Gas Tank Sealer.
3.  Leave it out in the sun 3 days.
 
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 20, 2010, 12:10:55 PM
I thought there was rust in tere, but it's shiney all the way.  I had to get that gunk out of there. . . Soaked in in Laquar thinner for a few howers, periodically sloshing it around and it cane out clean as a whistle.  I have it in the sun and threw some alcohol in it too.  DONE!
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 20, 2010, 05:37:50 PM
OK  You wanted pictures
 
This is the passenger side floor before treated with Ospho
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65floor1.jpg)
 
Rustoleum Bed Liner spray
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Floor2.jpg)
 
Passenger front floor after Ospho.  Ospho is a rust converter
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Floor3.jpg)
 
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Floor4.jpg)
 
 More Ospho
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Floor5.jpg)
 
 
Does this look like I painted a patch?  I was testing some paint and low an behold, I have a white that is 2 shades whiter.  Do think they would notice if I paint the whole dash?
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/65Dash11.jpg)
 
POLARACO2010-06-20 23:24:25
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 20, 2010, 06:30:32 PM
The floors look good!
 
You can tell where the painted patch is on the dash but it may not be as obvious if the whole dash were painted that shade.  If it were me, I'd hold off until I found a shade that was closer to the original.  The Ditzler Code for the White on the Dash is 8355.  Maybe you can supply this to an automotive paint supply store and they can mix you a batch and put it in a spray can.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 21, 2010, 08:19:04 AM
Quote from: rexus31
The floors look good!
 
 
Thanks for that paint code! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Saved me a ton of time.  I'll be probably using Dupont.  That's the only area that's painted.  I guess I need to take the column apart to do it right.
 
I'll start taking the dash apart next.  Now that I'm not laying in mold.  I want to get the replacement Dash Pad in there so it doesn't get damaged in my shop.  I have to get this car up to a point where i can store it for the season.  I need to get that sub-frame into the 68 to make room for the Oregon Special.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/Projects/62/Steve_62_New_Yorker_Black/Images/Front.jpg)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 21, 2010, 08:32:12 AM
Hey Rex
 
Did you say your rear seat was packed with Cotton?  Mine are burlap and foam.  Both of them
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 21, 2010, 09:34:30 PM
Yep.  My original was packed with cotton.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Snotty on June 22, 2010, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Quote from: rexus31
The floors look good!
 
 
Thanks for that paint code! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Saved me a ton of time.  I'll be probably using Dupont.  That's the only area that's painted.  I guess I need to take the column apart to do it right.
 
I'll start taking the dash apart next.  Now that I'm not laying in mold.  I want to get the replacement Dash Pad in there so it doesn't get damaged in my shop.  I have to get this car up to a point where i can store it for the season.  I need to get that sub-frame into the 68 to make room for the Oregon Special.
 
 
Hey, I recognise that car; heard it needs a motor....
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2010, 10:00:31 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Yeah  and another trans.  Too bad, that trans was brand new


 
POLARACO2010-06-22 15:01:09
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Dan Cluley on June 23, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
I took a quick look at the rear seat in my convertible, and also the New Yorker seat in storage.  Both of them seem to have foam in the lower cushion, and cotton in the back. 
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 23, 2010, 08:53:58 PM
I haven't pulled the original back out yet, but the 4 door from Detroit is foam.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 24, 2010, 05:36:15 AM
My seat back may have only been cotton stuffed.  I can't remember.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2010, 09:25:16 AM
Got the window glass today. . .Now that fun starts
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 24, 2010, 05:45:05 PM
Anybody have a Factory service manual on how to adjust the 65 2 door windows?
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 24, 2010, 07:42:40 PM
Here you go:
 
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/rexus31/Reference%20Pics/WindowAdjustment.jpg)
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: firedome on June 25, 2010, 04:23:04 AM
Those floors look really solid - that can't have been a Northern car!

like that white dash, looks sharp in a red car.



Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 25, 2010, 07:39:00 AM
I love the color combo, I'm going to paint the roof white too.  It's red now. . .well red and rust
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Scott on June 25, 2010, 08:19:38 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
I love the color combo, I'm going to paint the roof white too.  It's red now. . .well red and rust


 
A white vinyl top would look nice too.
Title: Big Red. . .(65- 300) Here we go already
Post by: Steve on June 25, 2010, 10:05:41 AM
I thought about it, but 2 white vinyle tops now is enough