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Techical Discussions => Tech- - STEERING WHEELS AND SUSPENSION => Topic started by: Steve on March 31, 2010, 02:58:54 PM

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
I guess the title says it all. I am in the process of trying to find a replacement high pressure power steering hose for my '68 Sport Fury. evidently they discontinued the hose used for Hi Perf engines (it's a larger diameter hose than standard).  Polaraco put me in touch with a man who can help me (thanks again Polaraco) but he needs to know what make pump I have (F-M, Saginaw, TRW, etc.).

How can I identify my pump?

Thanks for any help!

Uncle Hulka

PS - So close to cruising season it hurts.

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Ken on March 31, 2010, 03:18:03 PM

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/steering/1.html (http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/steering/1.html)
This is a Mopar Action article R. Ehrenberg did on both pumps, with pics of both units during dis-assembly and re-assembly
Here's the Federal pump (look at last pic)
(http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/steering/img/pspage6.jpg)
and then the Saginaw pump
(http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/steering/img/pspage1.jpg)




Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
Thanks Mosey! I still can't quite tell what I've got. My eyes aren't as good as they once were and I cant read the tiny print. Is there a way to tell by looking at the pump?

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 31, 2010, 04:18:17 PM
68 big block cars came with the TRW  1.06 pump.
I had no problem getting a HP hose for my two 68 C's.
 
CBarge2010-03-31 21:23:21
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on March 31, 2010, 05:24:16 PM
The 68 had a round one.  Later years had the tear dropped shaped one.  You should have a round one, or the Federal.  The tear dropped one is the Saganaw.
 
POLARACO2010-03-31 22:55:40
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2010, 01:23:23 PM
Here is a pic I took today. What's the verdict?
 BTW, what do the .94 & 1.06 numbers measurements of?    (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/126/pump2.jpg)

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2010, 02:16:06 PM
The round one.
 
I already told Rick
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2010, 02:28:32 PM
POLARACO2010-04-01 22:58:52
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on April 01, 2010, 05:01:45 PM
Here's the deal as I know it-'68 CHRYSLERS used the TRW pump with the charming "self adjusting" belt mechanism (last year for it). They stink because of the mounting bracket.
 
'68 PLYMOUTH C bodies used the Federal pump, as did '69 Chryslers.
 
I'm in the process of converting all of my '68 Chryslers to the Federal Pump.
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Ken on April 01, 2010, 07:34:48 PM

Steve I thought I WAS KISS
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)

The numbers refer to the displacement of the pump.

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 02, 2010, 06:53:19 AM
I have  the new style brackets on the BoaB's pump.
No more floppy....
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/Barge%20On%20A%20Budget/BargeonaBudget243.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/Barge%20On%20A%20Budget/BargeonaBudget247.jpg)
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 02, 2010, 06:58:10 AM
As Rob mentioned,the so-called "self-adjusting" brackets are a joke.
Years of leaks,and general use they do not keep tension on the belt and the pump actually moves around.
The rubber stop is usually gone.
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/Barge%20On%20A%20Budget/BargeonaBudget242.jpg)
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 02, 2010, 07:02:36 AM
Here is the link to Hoffman's pump brackets;
http://www.hoffmanswinnerscircle.com/cat16.htm (http://www.hoffmanswinnerscircle.com/cat16.htm)
As shown in my pic,the 68 Plymouth and Chrysler big blocks use the PS003 bracket kit
 
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 02, 2010, 07:03:21 AM
(http://www.hoffmanswinnerscircle.com/images/pump_differences.jpg) 
TRW was big block,Federal was small block.
CBarge2010-04-02 12:04:50
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 02, 2010, 07:34:35 AM
I can never remember which is which
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2010, 04:27:42 AM
OK, now that I'm 99.9% sure that mine is a TRW, I have to know, what is the purpose of the metal 'coupling' in the middle of the hose?

Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Steve on April 03, 2010, 06:45:51 AM
If you notice, the hoses are two different sizes.  The smaller end goes to the box
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 06, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
Found the listing for the hose....CHEAP!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/36-352700-STEERING-GEAR-INLINE-HOSE-67-68-NEWPORT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efd3d4745QQitemZ270536623941QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/36-352700-STEERING-GEAR-INLINE-HOSE-67-68-NEWPORT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efd3d4745QQitemZ270536623941QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
(http://mo.mechanicnet.com/parts/gm/acd/images/36-352700.jpg)
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 07, 2010, 05:03:18 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
If you notice, the hoses are two different sizes. 
Well, that is stupid.  That's a jury rig you would do...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Which type of Power Steering pump do I have?
Post by: Jason Clemens on April 08, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have the same problem. 1967 Newport, 383 with A/C and TRW pump. I bought the same bracket as shown here above, but the instructions say Not For A/C.

Will this bracket still work? before I go and tear it all apart. I know its common to just go with a saginaw pump instead, but I just bought a new TRW last summer and would like to take the floppyness out of it while still having the A/C. I saw in a different forum that the Not For A/C only applies to non C body cars...any help would be great!