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Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 10, 2010, 10:18:48 AM
POLARACO2010-03-10 22:27:06
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 10, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
352 V8 w/ 3 spd stick:
 
POLARACO2010-03-10 22:28:21
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 11, 2010, 11:50:54 AM
Well, been looking hi & lo for years for a 56 Packard V8 with stick... the Ultramatic with electric solenoid push button is cool, but is finicky, and stick Packards are RARE... but I found this one, where else, on Craigslist, in Missouri.  All original car including original paint and no floor rust. Best of all, 352 V-8 with OverDrive Stick! I'm unable to do anything but light bodywork any more, so the DeSoto went to finance this one, a turn key driver:(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/IMG_3714Clipper1.jpg) POLARACO2010-03-13 14:06:27
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 11, 2010, 02:39:53 PM
Who crushed the Clipper?? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Steve on March 11, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
I just fixed all these
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 11, 2010, 03:01:05 PM

Thanks Steve - the side view pic still look squashed to me?... I just cannot figure out why this is
happening. I posted 6 pics on my F3 trunk floor work and they came out
fine... Riiiiipppppp! ...sound of me tearing my hair out, or what's
left of it...




firedome2010-03-11 20:02:23
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 11, 2010, 03:17:06 PM
Anyhow, pics aside, this is the Plain Jane Packard model, the bottom of
the line. Equivalent hierarchy-wise to a Windsor or Buick Special, but
more expensive than them. Sort of like a really stripped Caddy or
Lincoln, if there'd been such a thing. Big, massive, heavy, powerful
car. Packard would strip off the bells & whistles, but they refused
to compromise on the quality of the drivetrain or the coachwork, to use
the Brit expression for body. The doors on these things clang shut like
bank vaults. They were sort of still living in a lost aristocratic
world of the teens to '30s, when they were THE name in prestige cars,
and couldn't accept that the world had changed to high volume luxo cars
like Cadillac, Lincoln, and Imperial. They just could not compete
costwise, and it killed them. You have to experience one in person to
really appreciate it... real quality from a lost age, that we'll never
see again.



Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: steve sclafani on March 12, 2010, 05:30:55 PM
How many ponys under that Bonnet?
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 12, 2010, 06:14:03 PM
ponys or swayback old mares? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: steve sclafani on March 13, 2010, 05:57:54 AM
Who knows. Could even be Donkeys. There was one in North Carolina where I bought my Fury.
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 13, 2010, 08:29:16 AM

The Clipper Deluxe 352 V8 had the lowest power engine for '56 Packards
at 240hp and 350 ft /lb torque, still no slouch.  And the
Caribbean 374 with 2 Rochester 4 bbl and 10:1 compression had the
biggest displacement and highest power of ANY car in 1956 at 310hp and
torque of 405 ft/lb!


Packard  wasn't known as "The Master Motor Builder" for nothing - you
should see the huge V12 that they made for PT boats in WWII!  And
the Rolls Merlin V12s that were built by Packard for P-51s put out
significantly more power than the Rolls produced version, AND were more
reliable to boot.


firedome2010-03-13 13:30:19
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: steve sclafani on March 13, 2010, 09:33:49 AM
So its a manuel pushbutton? 3 or 4 speed? I really like the way they hid the door handles. Looks like a really nice find!
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: steve sclafani on March 13, 2010, 09:36:36 AM
Some of the body lines remind me of my 54 Firedome. But I guess with the curved front and rear glass, they all had a similar look.
 
How road worthy is she? It's going to be a driver, right?
 
That's a pre-requisite to be on this site...I think.
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 13, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
Hell, there's plenty of non-drivers here... I've got one, my Fury
III.  There's no prerequisites to be an idiot, I mean member,
here,  AFAIK... but yes, this Packard runs & drives great. And
it's not an automatic, it's a column shift 3 spd manual, very rare, as
mentioned...

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Dan Cluley on March 14, 2010, 01:24:04 AM
Quote from: FIN_NV
... I really like the way they hid the door handles. Looks like a really nice find!
 
I agree, for a second I thought somebody had shaved them, this is much cooler. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 14, 2010, 07:39:44 AM
Now that pic got fixed t hat's a nice car.
Nice touch having the door handles high up on the door.
I can see that Packard was after some Cadillac sales with the influence in their styling.
The caddy may have started  the fins fad,but Packard sure did provoke Cadillac and other car companies with their excellent fin and taillight design.
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 14, 2010, 08:23:48 AM
So.  Thath thang is a "stick", huh?
Lemme see.
Stick? Check.
V8? Check.
2 door sedan? Check.
I'm thinkin Hot Rod Packard. NO????(http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/PlumGrin.gif)
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 14, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
There HAVE been a few hot rod Pcakards... a guy in MD I know even
builds Pack-ups... Packard pickup trucks that he makes from 51-56
Packard 4 drs,  they are quite cool, he does a beautiful job and
he gets good money for them. In fact the red 56 I resold to him will
become one.



This one is a 4 dr seedan btw, not a 2 dr. They made a 2 dr true
pillarless hardtop, but no 2 dr post sedans.  By 1955/56 they were
running out of $$$ and reduced body styles to only 3: vert,  2 dr
hrdtp, and 4 dr seedan. Then in 57/58,  they were all
Packard-bakers, just a bunch of  re-worked Studies, including a
wagon and the Packard Hawk - the one to have.



Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 14, 2010, 08:58:43 AM
I have a great front pic but it's 10x too big at 2100kb - how do I shrink it? 

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Steve on March 14, 2010, 09:58:23 AM
email it to me
 
joe@ justservers . com
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 14, 2010, 05:06:05 PM
On the way...

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on March 15, 2010, 09:10:56 AM
You have a very nice car there! How does it drive? Smooth I bet as it must weigh a few pounds. Can you get radial tires that match the look of the bias ply tires?
 
When I was a kid my first car had bias ply tires on it and when I wore them out I installed some radial Michelins onto it...they sure made a difference in ride and handling!
 
I am also curious what cars like this are worth? Also, could you please post some pictures of the dash and interiour?
 
Good luck with your projects!
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Snotty on March 15, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
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Although samller in CID, the 354 Hemi in the 300 B had more HP.  I think the 345 deSoto did as well in top trim tune.  If you're talking stock, non HP power you statement would be correct.  A stock 354 had less than 300 HP.
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 15, 2010, 04:53:31 PM
How does it drive? The Torsion-Level suspension was the most advanced
suspension ever put on a car up to that time, and maybe ever, with
electric motor
pre-tensioned torsion bars front AND rear, with auto leveling
standard.  Check out the road tests of the time, they all raved
about it...it was invented by Bill Allison, a Hudson engineer, but they
wouldn't spend the money to put in in their cars, so he went to GM,
Ford, Chrysler, and they wouldnt either, but Packard saw it's potential
and took the gamble... there is nothing like it, a ride in a 55/56
Packard is truly a revelation,  but unfortunately it was also very
expensive, one of the factors that did Packard in. The M1
Abrams tank has a very similar suspenson. Cost: multi millions each.


firedome2010-03-15 21:00:13
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 15, 2010, 04:55:13 PM
Steve - did u get the 2 pics? 

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: firedome on March 17, 2010, 05:19:28 AM
Earth to Steve.... sent the 2 pics to joe@.....

Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on March 17, 2010, 08:43:52 AM
Electric auto leveling! Wow, That is a cool feature! I always loved the ride of my torsion bar equiped Mopars...I can only imagine what that car would ride like.
Title: Stick shift V8 Packard... wanted & found
Post by: Steve on March 17, 2010, 10:19:16 AM
Planet Hobby to earth. . .

Yeah, they were n my spam