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Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 06, 2010, 05:05:05 PM
Brian
 
A while back you changed your rear bushing.
 
Refresh my memory as to why you did that.  I'll tell you after that.
 
Thanks in advance.
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 07, 2010, 04:01:40 PM
Bump for Brian
 
Helllllooooooooo  Brian.  Earth to Brian. . .
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 07, 2010, 04:07:06 PM
He may not be home,Steve.
Could be working...driving his truck..
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2309/2418322346_a3564a78e6.jpg)
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 07, 2010, 04:14:48 PM
He just posted!
 
Does this mean I get a free coffee?  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 07, 2010, 04:15:44 PM
He was in the Molases thread
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Brian on March 07, 2010, 05:39:35 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
Brian
 
A while back you changed your rear bushing.
 
Refresh my memory as to why you did that.  I'll tell you after that.
 

The rear bushing in my tailshaft? 

I decided to do this because the original 2 piece drive shaft, that was causing a lot of my vibration issues, was now replaced with a new solid one piece unit. 

I drove the car and was still sensing a small vibration similar to before.  So I figured with all that horrible shaking that had been going on that the rear tailshaft bushing may have taken a beating. 

 I have noticed since the replacement of the rear bushing things are better, but I still have a bit of a shake at some speeds.  I now think it may be my tires.

So whatcha doin der Steve.....

Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 07, 2010, 06:07:31 PM
That's what I thought
 
I have a vibration similar to what you described in Polaraco and the rear seal has a slight drip.  I messed with drive shafts yesterday. . . The best one I had was about 1 1/2" longer than the one in the car.  But I couldn't get it in because the shaft wouldn't travel far enough forward.  Well that's no good.
 
So I either have a worn yoke or a bad bushing.  I'm not sure this has a bushing in it.  I have to dig up the manual and check it out.  I'm pretty sure it must have a bushing in it.
 
All this time, I thought the shaft was a tad too short.  That can cause it too.  But as it turns out, I was reminded when I pulled the drive shaft, the spline sticks out of the umbrella seal by another inch.
 
Whatsamattaru?  Don't like to be stalked?  Did you go to Thortons for dinner??? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Guests on March 07, 2010, 07:40:03 PM
The tailshaft bushing is an easy one to remove and replace. To check, stick the yoke in the end of the tranny and if you have a plain yoke without the driveline on it, you can use it to determine how much slop there is much easier. If it wiggles, it's bad. Simply unbolt the tailshaft and pull it off (pull out the speedo gear first, that little plate under the tranny mount with two phillips screws in it allows access to the outside snap ring for the rear bearing lock), undo the bolts, pull backwards. The cool thing is, the bearing is about two inches tall and has a split in it, so it is easy to tap it out with the notch and slice, easy to press in (or tap in, not a lot of pressure with the split in it, just a little bit much for even myself to push in by hand). You can use the yoke and something flat so the bearing doesn't sit against the Ujoint surface and tap it in that way, puts something inside the shell of the bearing when pushing it in if you want.
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Brian on March 07, 2010, 08:47:51 PM

Quote from: CBarge
He may not be home,Steve.
Could be working...driving his truck..

I beginning to think Leaburn is following me around, or having me watched....getting a bit paranoid....

Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 08, 2010, 02:31:22 AM
Ummm.... may be a dumb question but I never drobe up in Canada...
Why is your trailer, which looks very short (40' ?),  a tri-axle?  How much weight are you hauling?  I mean, jeeze, how much can a case of styrofoam  oz. cups weigh?  LOL
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 08, 2010, 05:23:49 AM
Do you have any idea how heavy a doanut is?
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 08, 2010, 06:39:26 AM

the extra weight comes from all the cops that are hanging off the rear trying to get in




Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Brian on March 08, 2010, 08:35:48 AM
Stan...the trailer there is one of our A-box's, 32 feet, with the axles slid under so we have access to our electric/hyd lift gates for deliveries.

We run Super B trailers, not for the weight but for the capacity.  The most you can get in a 53' trailer is like 26 skids.  Between the A (16 skids) and B (13 skids) box we can carry 29 skids.




Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Brian on March 08, 2010, 08:36:08 AM

Quote from: stitcherbob
the extra weight comes from all the cops that are hanging off the rear trying to get in




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Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Guests on March 08, 2010, 09:09:34 AM
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That thing has a donut machine, too?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 08, 2010, 09:11:23 AM
Quote from: thrashingcows
Between the A (16 skids) and B (13 skids) box we can carry 29 skids.

 
So what you're saying is that you use doubles on your deliveries?
 
(http://i45.tinypic.com/23vzyv4.jpg)
 
 
I have to admire you.  Our local covered the drivers for Dunkin Donuts.  When some companies were on layoff, the Union asked if any of the drivers wanted some work over at Dunkie.  They would scatter like rats. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  That's tough work delivering to coffee shops.
 
Commando12010-03-08 14:19:35
Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Brian on March 08, 2010, 11:52:09 AM

Quote from: Commando1
Quote from: thrashingcows
Between the A (16 skids) and B (13 skids) box we can carry 29 skids.

 
So what you're saying is that you use doubles on your deliveries?
 
(http://i45.tinypic.com/23vzyv4.jpg)
 
 
I have to admire you.  Our local covered the drivers for Dunkin Donuts.  When some companies were on layoff, the Union asked if any of the drivers wanted some work over at Dunkie.  They would scatter like rats. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  That's tough work delivering to coffee shops.
 

That pic you posted Stan is one of our refer unit B-trains back east in Guelph ON, it's a 30'/30' split unit.  Not sure what skid count they get, I heard 15/15 so a total of 30 skids? 

We don't have refer units yet out here in BC, probably another 8-10 years they say before that happens.

But to answer your question on the doubles, Yes all our out of town runs are B-trains.  The local runs, within 100 miles of base, are either a single A or B-box.




Title: Brian! Thrashingcows!!!! Need to ask you a quest
Post by: Steve on March 08, 2010, 12:33:28 PM
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I think I may have it figured out. . . But, changing the bushing is no picnic on a 518.  In order to get the tail shaft off, the Over Drive unit has to come off too.  Not an easy task with the trans in the car.
 
Anyway, I went through my drive shaft collection.  I have 8.  I found a 7 1/4" yoke which fits, slides all the way in and seems to be snugger in the trans than the 6 1/4.   Nobody seems to have the information on what was used on the truck.  I remember the truck had the big U Joint, and my shaft was the small U Joint.  So I didn't use the yoke from the truck. 
 
As soon as I get my new U Joint, I'll put it in and take it for a rip and see.