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Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on January 23, 2010, 04:57:20 PM
So I'm in a bit of a spot regarding future work to my car and I'd like some advice.

Back in the fall I knew I was going to need surgery to repair two hernias.  I was told they were no big deal and I'd be back on my feet in two-three months.  Well turns out I needed a ton more work so the long-and-the-short of it all means I will not be in any physical shape to do any auto work for the next several months.

I've gotta get some help and I'm thinking of placing an ad online.  I MUST get Wanda running by July.  I WILL NOT miss another Chrysler's at Carlisle.  Grrrrrr....

Anyone have any experience doing something like this?  How much is a good wage to offer?  Do you do it by job or by hour?  Are there certain phrases/words to use/avoid when placing this ad?  Any red flags I should be aware of when meeting people?

Thanks.  I appreciate your help on this one.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: 300rag on January 23, 2010, 05:38:44 PM
It just sucks when you have a plan and it gets all screwed up. Getting work done on your body is just like getting work done on the car - twice as long and four times the price. Have you checked for a local Mopar club? There may be some help available through contacts of club members. Worth a try.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 24, 2010, 03:54:52 AM
Post a job with the job placement office of a local college that specializes in the trades.  My Alma Mater did that.  Great win-win situation.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on January 25, 2010, 06:21:11 AM
I'm in Ithaca, NY and the nearest Mopar club is called the "Northeast Hemi Owner's Association."  Sounds like they're more into muscle cars than Luxo-yachts....but I'll give it a try.

The trade school idea is brilliant.  What price would you recommend paying the person if I'm able to land help - or will the school help me set a price? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif)



Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on January 25, 2010, 06:55:40 AM
Watch yourself with that. . . .  Interview the teacher.  Maybe you can have it towed to the school and have it done there under supervision.  There aren't allot of Pete Harringtons out there either.  (Mopar331)  He's good but too far away.  If Ithica was closer, I'd shoot up there and slap it together for you
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 25, 2010, 10:46:20 AM
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They usually will "recommend" what hourly rate would be satisfactory to all.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on January 25, 2010, 11:03:49 AM

Ithaca's only 45 min from me Steve -  Twofer?



Seriously Dominic - sorry to hear about the health problems. I know a
guy here who is a Mobile Mechanic, he used to work at several local
dealers and is competent, also he is reasonable, he might come up to
Ithaca, PM me for more info. if interested.

Also many BOCES (Vo-tech) will work on cars of local residents, 
check with their auto repair instructors... I taught at a Vo-Tech for
several  years, many will  do this.

Roger in Bingo


firedome2010-01-25 16:05:57
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on January 26, 2010, 07:00:46 AM

Thanks Polaraco, I'll keep that in mind
Quote from: firedome
Also many BOCES (Vo-tech) will work on cars of local residents, 
check with their auto repair instructors... I taught at a Vo-Tech for
several  years, many will  do this.
I'll look into that, too.  Luckily, my car is now stored - LITERALLY - in a garage complex across the street from the Ithaca BOCES.

But I doubt they'll do anything.  They probably want newer cars, or cars that require much more work than mine.  Still, they might have leads, too.

The healing process has been so frustrating.  I don't have much left to do on the car - but I can't physically do anything for the next several months.  I feel like this:  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
....but then too much of that will just put me back in the hospital.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on January 26, 2010, 07:09:47 AM
[/QUOTE]
 
That's what I was suggesting to you.  It's a pretty good idea since you were well into the restoration of the engine.  It will be good experience for the kids too.  They'll get a taste of how it was back in the olden days.
 
Get yer ass better will ya'?  You're just too far out for me.  Otherwise I'd run up there myslef and do it for you.  Sounds like a days job
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on January 27, 2010, 04:04:45 AM
Oh yeah, in fact when I was at Vo Tech the Auto Mechanics instructor guy was an antique car nut himself and he had kids were working on a '38 Chebbie, several '50s cars, and all kinds o' stuff. They're totally into it usually. I used to work on my cars in the Body Shop, and even took the Adult Ed night Auto Body course there.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on January 27, 2010, 05:48:19 AM

Quote from: POLARACO
That's what I was suggesting to you.  It's a pretty good idea since you were well into the restoration of the engine.  It will be good experience for the kids too.  They'll get a taste of how it was back in the olden days.
 
Get yer ass better will ya'?  You're just too far out for me.  Otherwise I'd run up there myslef and do it for you.  Sounds like a days job

I recon that's all it'll take, too.  One full day of work.  Maybe two...depending how long the mid-day beer-breaks are.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on January 27, 2010, 05:51:41 AM

Quote from: firedome
Oh yeah, in fact when I was at Vo Tech the Auto Mechanics instructor guy was an antique car nut himself and he had kids were working on a '38 Chebbie, several '50s cars, and all kinds o' stuff. They're totally into it usually. I used to work on my cars in the Body Shop, and even took the Adult Ed night Auto Body course there.
Hey, Roger - I tried IMing you today but your mailbox is full so it wouldn't let me send it to you.

You gotta get the ol' iCue-Tips out and clean out the junk that's building up in there.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on January 28, 2010, 04:30:57 AM
Call me at home 6077540031,8A-8P 

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 08, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Well....I've had no luck hitting up the local BOCES and trade schools.  More interestingly, no one
seems to know of anyone who is looking for a little extra cash by
helping me out.  I've asked around - at the BOCES, and with other
mechanics, etc. - and no one either 1) wants to help or 2) knows
someone willing to help.



It is reason no. 44 in my growing list titled "Why I Hate Ithaca, NY."



At least I have a lead from Firedome.  Otherwise, looks like I gotta post something on Facebook.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 08, 2010, 10:19:16 AM
Just what exactly needs to be done?
Maybe I can help on weekends.
Maybe Roger can pitch in at the same time.
Cheap labour,but expensive taste...LOL!
 
CBarge2010-02-08 15:21:53
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 08, 2010, 10:47:30 AM
Refresh my memory.  Where are you?
 
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 08, 2010, 11:05:53 AM



I'd give Chris Magee a call, if you lost his # I have it.



Normally, yep, sure, but I got a upcoming knee and hip replacement and
my own dead F3 that needs freeze plugs before it'll run...

firedome2010-02-08 16:07:53
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 08, 2010, 11:19:58 AM
You're on the list. .  .
 
Now that weeburn can come into the states, we' were going to have an engine pulling party
 
Get all the plugs for the block.  Engine cleaner, pressure washer. . . . Paint. . . 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 08, 2010, 02:17:57 PM
I'm in Ithaca, NY.  It's about 45 minutes north of Binghamton, NY - which is where Firedome lives (except for the summer months where he spends all his time at his Vermont palace   (http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/images/smilies/smilies-2008/party018.gif)  ).

I think it's a bit far for you to come down on weekends, C-barge.  Unless someone shrunk Canada without telling me.  Must be the freezing temps we've had.  Cold = "shrinkage"  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 08, 2010, 03:16:26 PM
Ya my 24 x 32 unfinsihed unheated cabin "palace" complete with Tyvek
siding (it keeps the taxes down..) and a front door 5' off the ground
(no money for a porch yet)...

 Well, so I can't lift anything, but more than willing to come up and supervise... not that that would do ya any good ;-)





Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 08, 2010, 03:58:43 PM
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Don't talk so loose.
We are here to help.
Bleh.I did Syracuse in two hours from my house.What's another hour south?
No different than driving to see relatives in the Toronto area.
I leave between 5-6 AM and be there when the action starts,and be home for a nightcap.
I enjoy day trips--and overnighters even better.
Cold beer,and a warm bed--or couch--or warm dog to cuddle-does not matter.
 
Anytime I get an overnight trip away from my wife only helps me appreciate her even more.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Heck..I drove to Steve's in six hours,then worked with him for the weekend.
We are crazy in that regard.
Did you not read the Detroit trip Steve and I did in May??
All that matters is I am home for supper Sunday nights.
The only thing shrinking these days is  the amount of brain cells--so she tells me (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif)
Anyways,this weekend coming I'm not available--but the next one I am.
BTW,I like hot  tea--no coffee.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 08, 2010, 05:09:19 PM
It's about mid way between Leaburn and myself.
 
We better put a plan together before it gets too warm. . .   I have a project list a foot long and every warm minute counts
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 08, 2010, 05:10:14 PM
Weebee
 
We should split a motel room.  Roger can sleep in the car. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 09, 2010, 05:07:47 AM
I'm not even an hour away... I got 2 free spare bedrooms, all the
Genny/CheapRedWine you can drink, and can BBQ a steak with the best of
em... we even have a great old time Butcher here.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 09, 2010, 08:22:34 AM
heh heh heh
 
Then Weebee can sneak into my room in the middle of the night.  LOL
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 09, 2010, 08:56:37 AM
R'uh R'oh! 

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 09, 2010, 10:19:48 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)CBarge2010-02-09 15:20:05
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 11, 2010, 06:20:56 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
It's about mid way between Leaburn and myself.
 
We better put a plan together before it gets too warm. . .   I have a project list a foot long and every warm minute counts

Sounds good to me.  Cbarge.....Polaraco......I'll talk to Firedome and see if we can't put something together.

Don't worry about it happening before it gets too warm.  The end of March is the soonest I can do anything - it'll still be PLENTY cold up here.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif)

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 12, 2010, 01:31:56 AM
Feb 20th I have to be in Hamilton for my neice's birthday party,so next weekend I'm not available.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 15, 2010, 04:45:54 AM
I gotta heated garage if anyone wants to do Freeze Plugs!

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 15, 2010, 04:59:22 AM
Was that a subtle hint?
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 15, 2010, 05:13:39 AM
Subtlety here???, na, more like a hit upside da haid wid a 2 ba 4   ;-)

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 15, 2010, 10:51:36 AM
Take a number on all counts
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 16, 2010, 05:30:35 PM
well, If you guys can make it, I'll be working on the car the following weekends:

March 27-28,  April 2-3, and April 9-10.

I could definitely use the help.  ;)


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 17, 2010, 08:28:39 AM
I had March in mind anyway.

Lea????


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 17, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
Sure........
Name a weekend and I will check if I am available.
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 18, 2010, 06:10:10 AM
I start going to VT most weekends starting in March, I have a lot of unfinished work to get done.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 18, 2010, 06:39:00 AM
I am available on all weekends except
March 13th
April10th (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
CBarge2010-02-18 11:39:47
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 18, 2010, 08:01:41 AM
Then March 27-28 will work?

Roger?


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 06:33:15 AM

I'll likely be in Vermont, we open the camp 2nd week of March. No swimming yet, but a lot of work yet to be done!
firedome2010-02-21 11:34:41
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 06:38:24 AM
You have yer ass here on the 27th and 28th. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Lea and I talked Friday.  Looks like that is the date.  We're coming in Friday Night, knocking out the work on the new yorker and then haveing an engine lifting party for some weeping Freeze plugs on Sunday.  Be prepared. . . .
 
Now you have an incentive to get the F# ready for a yank.  We'll do the heavy stuff. . . .  It's got to ne an in and out.  We plan on knocking out the plugs, flushing the jackets, cleaning up the bottom of the block, putting the plugs in and flop.
 
It's a nice day today. . .what are you doing?  LOL
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 07:08:38 AM
typing standing up - I got a bad case o' roids! it is PAINFUL, first my knee, now my azz too! Gawd!
Going to the garage to straighten stuff up, at least I can do that standing... if you know a definite date well in advance, can plan to be here,  but my wife takes off Fridays when we go north, and once she does it's hard to change it, so I need to know it that it's for sure for sure.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 21, 2010, 09:56:49 AM
March 27 and 28.
No,Steve and I will NOT share a bed.LOL
Roger,I can bring my own air mattress if you dont have a spare bed.
We can have a contest and see who is full of hot air  and they can inflate it (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 12:29:41 PM
No prob! - we downsized house majorly when the 3 kids grew up, moved out and we came here from VT, but you'll still each have your own room... you WILL have to fight over who gets the room with a single bed, and who gets the double... we can always do a  Mopar production number guessing contest when you get here... whoever gets closest wins!

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 12:37:18 PM
Oh I don't care. . .as long as there aren't any bugs.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 12:41:22 PM
I sent a PM to the host of honor asking him to come in and look at the schedual, and to post a list of what needs to be done so we have the right tools.





 
I hate trying to bring the tool box to the job. . . .  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  I may as well put my garage on wheels.
 
Lea. . .You want me to send that dremel up now or wait until I see you.
 
Roger, I have your tail lights here. . .   I have to see if I can find the wheel covers between now and then.  The tail lights are gonna cost ya, but the wheel covers are cheap
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 21, 2010, 01:03:10 PM
Dremel in March

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 21, 2010, 01:49:16 PM
BTW,Roger,I drink hot tea in the morning-without it I am grumpy the rest of the day.
Steve drinks two cups of coffee..still grumpy all day...LOL(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
No bugs here.. and don't bring any!! I hear a DDT bath like they do in Africa works pretty good... I gotta fairly complete shop, but bring your battery powered underwear, Dom's car storage is outdoors.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 02:00:42 PM
I dunno if we're going to have time for the yard. . . .
 
Rob Broggel has a subframe from a 70 that will work
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 03:22:17 PM
Don't worry -  got tea, and I don't function until after at least 2 cups o' coffee - and after 5 PM  don't function until after at least 2 beers!


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 03:36:40 PM
I'll be the one crawling on the floor, holding his throat and muttering "Coffee"  "COFFEE"  Please us an I.V.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 21, 2010, 03:56:20 PM
I likes mine like I likes my wimmin - hot n' black!! ;-) 

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2010, 04:32:34 PM
Black no surgar or milk. . .Well!  We agree on something. .  .  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
I drink Pepsi or Dr Pepper.  Don't drink beer that far away from home.  Except at Leaburns house because he has Gerry to carry me inside.  hehehehehe
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 22, 2010, 06:00:51 AM
You got Leaburn to carry you inside... or maybe Leaburn has YOU to carry HIM inside!





Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 22, 2010, 06:33:00 AM
His mind doesn't function very well in the morning.  I may be crabby, but I'm usually in 2nd gear by the time the coffee is ready
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 22, 2010, 03:03:32 PM
Wow - lots of movement since I last checked here.  That'll teach me to have the marking period end this week.  :)

I can't thank you guys enough.  Polaraco asked for an inventory of my tools so here's the (pitifully small number of) tools I own:

3 ton Craftsman jack
2 jack stands (3 ton?)
creeper
Bostich portable air compressor (4 gal?) w/ one hose

Blue Point 1/2" air impact wrench (don't own socket set for this, yet)

Craftsman wrench set: 1 1/4" - very, very small ( ?/32")
ratchet set - 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" ratchets and 1/4" driver.  Metric and US sockets and several extenders.
Craftsman torque wrench (old-school design)
HD extension cord w/ 4-gang end
electric power drill w/ 3/8" chuck
rubber mallet
3 lb sledge
1 utility light
various channel-locks, screw drivers, needle-nose pliers, hose-clamp pliers, wire-brushes, etc.
1979 Chrysler FSM
1979 Chrysler Parts Catalog

That's about it.  Not the best, I know.....but other than the occasional gear-puller, I haven't had to rent anything from AutoZone.  So far......

So anything you guys want to bring from  folding work-tables to portable heaters to air-tools to to torches to batt powered hand tools would be welcome.

I'll post the jobs we have to do to the car, next.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 22, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
Nooooooo
 
I need a list of what we need to do to the car!
 
But this is good
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 22, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Jobs - Here's what we're doing (actually it's best to show a picture.  It's worth a thousand words):



http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4349927561_c3bb45dbe8.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4349927561_c3bb45dbe8.jpg)



However, it's a slightly old pic as the timing chain cover is off, too:



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3986143916_455838eea3.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3986143916_455838eea3.jpg)



So we basically have to put the engine's parts together:



New timing set

Remove/reinstall oil pan

New oil pan gasket

New oil filter

Reinstall timing set cover w/ new gaskets

New crank front oil seal

Reinstall crank balancer

New pulleys - crank, AC, water pump

New water pump and gasket

New fuel pump and gasket

New EGR and gasket

New vacuum hoses - all 'round

New plates to cover AIR pump holes in each exhaust manifold

Finish cleaning/re-installing rockers and rods

New valve-cover gaskets

Reinstall intake w/ new gaskets

Install all new air/water/oil sensors on intake

Install new Thermoquad and gaskets/seals

Reinstall all throttle lines and new hose lines to carb

New throttle kick-down bushing

New fuel line and filter

New fuel vapor canister filter material and vapor lines

Reinstall all electrical connections/wiring

New tranny coolant lines

New radiator install

New fan clutch

New belts

New thermostat

New coolant hoses

Clean up any grease/mess we can along the way.



I think that's it.  I took lots of pictures, made lots of labels and drew a few sketches so everything should go right back in place with no "extra" parts (I hope).

I currently have 95% of the disassembly work done
and 95% of the new parts on hand.  By the time you guys get here - I
should have everything....with the one possibility of maybe not having
dropped the oil pan.  I need to get someone to help me with that as it
looks like I need to remove some of the suspension first.  But Roger
gave me a guy to call - I think I'll call him about that.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 22, 2010, 04:52:19 PM
Good  sounds like allot, but it's not.

I need to bring
Tubing bending tools
Cutters
flare tools
Assorted Sockets and hand tools
1/4" Air Ratchet
1/4" socket set
If I can get the engine hoist in the truck, that will work best
I have another portable air compressor.  I want to tie the two together.  I'll bring hoses.  We will need 1 1/4" pipe T and 3 close nipples to join the two compressors.  Figure out where we can run the second compressor.  We can't run both on the same circuit.




Not to worry, I have 300 feet of hose.
 
You need to have
*assorted 2 X 4 or 4 X4 pieces handy
*Make sure you have enough 5/16 line for the transmission lines.  Don't forget to get the couplers.  We'll need 2- double flare FEMALE 5/16 tubing nuts for the rad.  If not available, get 2 fitting for male 5/16 for the rad.  I think they are 1/8 male pipe by 5/16 double flare female.
*we'll need a 1/4 Pipe T and some close nipples to mate the two compressor together.
 
Here's the plan.
 
Lea and I will take the pan out first.  While you clean the pan up, we'll do the chain and the front of the motor.  When you are ready, we'll slip the pan back in.  While we do that, you can have all the rest of the parts ready.  If Roger is coming, he can hold the engine up for us. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 23, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Leaburn. . . .  I see you on line. . .  Want some input from you
 
This post will self distruct. . .If you don't do it for me.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 23, 2010, 02:40:01 PM
<SIGH>
I have an open house PR thing Sunday 28th..at my new job. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
I can't get out of it since I am still building up new clientel.
I can do the 20-21st..
Sorry.
Just found out today.
 
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 23, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
In regards to the tasks when we get there,I am game.
Steve,you lead,I follow as always.
no problem there.
Guys,when Steve and I get going,we work well as a team.
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 23, 2010, 03:00:19 PM
Now I have trouble with the 20th and 21st.  Damn
 
Guess I am solo.  Roger?
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 23, 2010, 03:13:56 PM
I can be there, for what it's worth.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 23, 2010, 03:49:34 PM
Lemme talk to my boss tomorrow.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 23, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: firedome
I can be there, for what it's worth.

You'll be fine. . . I'll tell you what to do, show you and be right there at your side.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 23, 2010, 06:29:28 PM

and when the van pulls up, they get to work!

(http://www.reelmovienews.com/files/the-a-team-photo.jpg)


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 23, 2010, 06:58:33 PM
I don't see you volunteering. . . .
 
I'll pick you up.  But you will be getting dirty. . . .
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 24, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
Boss says NO!
Crap.
Got 200 new customers showing up and I am needed.
April? Maybe?
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 12:16:23 PM
I figured as much

April?  I'm going to Oregon to get my 62 New Yorker.  I have the 5.9 swap to do and have to spend some time on my trailer.  Forget it.  We'll make due with what we have. 

Tag Roger. . .You and I will have to get 'er done.

Lea. . .I'm planning on one day on the new yorker.  We can leave some for you to do and you and Roger can finish up.  I want to get those freeze plugs done for Roger too.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 24, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Maybe I can go down the weekend before and get things going?

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
I would prefer after. . .then you can get a picture of what has to be done.
 
After April, time will be at a premium for me.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 24, 2010, 03:05:08 PM
Roger,make sure you have plenty of zip lock bags,a sharpie marker,and a catcher's mitt.
The mitt is for catching the nuts n bolts that start flyin from Steve's direction,LOL!!!
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 24, 2010, 03:05:49 PM
April is primo for me too, because the ice goes out on the Lake! 
Once I get it fiurther along, I intend to have a Mopafins meet on Lake
Champlain! ...  gotta get my boat project done. Leaburn, I can
meet you the w/e before if need be, to get things going, there's a lot
on that list, and also Dom can do some of it...  my one imperitive
is: with my knee now being bone-on-bone I can't stand for long periods
of time...so my new favorite tool, for intermittent use, is a chair!
 

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 03:06:56 PM
Yeah. . .  I work fast and precise.  Don't dautle. . .  There won't be much time if we're going to get that heavy work out of the way
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 24, 2010, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
I would prefer after. . .then you can get a picture of what has to be done.
 
So,what will you be doing,and what will I need to do?
 
Roger,let's see what Steve has in mind first.
he would rather start the fire instead of investigating it after it gets put out..
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
I would guess as much as I can Lea. . .  The pan and the chain cover go together so I will target those.  If i get further, great.  I may be able to start it, but will leave the rest of the list to you. 
 
Hey!  I'm the one who's on his back on the cold floor. . .  I envy you.
 
You question my work?  Why you dirty. . . . (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 24, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
At least my floor will be warm...my heater works so good it'll drive you outta there even in January.

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Post by: attkrlufy on February 24, 2010, 03:28:39 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
Good  sounds like allot, but it's not.
That's what I'm thinking, too.  It doesn't have to be running by the end of the day - but if it's put together more than it is now, I'll be eternally grateful.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley33.gif)

 
Quote from: POLARACO
*Make sure you have enough 5/16 line for the transmission lines.  Don't forget to get the couplers.  We'll need 2- double flare FEMALE 5/16 tubing nuts for the rad.  If not available, get 2 fitting for male 5/16 for the rad.  I think they are 1/8 male pipe by 5/16 double flare female.
*we'll need a 1/4 Pipe T and some close nipples to mate the two compressor together.
[/b]
Transmission lines are already pre-bent and ready to install w/ all fittings already on.  I ordered them from inlinetube.com - they're '75-'79 Cordoba lines.  They should slip right in.  Eventually I'd like to learn to use a flare tool....just not on this project.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)
Quote from: POLARACO
Lea and I will take the pan out first.  While you clean the pan up, we'll do the chain and the front of the motor.  When you are ready, we'll slip the pan back in.  While we do that, you can have all the rest of the parts ready.  If Roger is coming, he can hold the engine up for us. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
I'm really hoping to have the pan already out and cleaned before you get here to save time.  The parts will be ready and labeled like ducks in a row.

As for who gets to hold up the engine - well - better Roger than me.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 24, 2010, 03:29:46 PM
I wash out used Zip-Lock bags for just that purpose -  have a huge pile of them!

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Post by: attkrlufy on February 24, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
So, uh, there's about 3 extra pages of posts since I checked last.....

.....what weekend are you guys descending on the frozen tundra of Upstate NY, again?  Was that March 20-21st?


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 03:50:33 PM
Roger and I will be there the 27th and 28th
 
Leaburn is up in the air. . .  He wants to come the weekend before.  Anything after that weekend and I'm shot until late October.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 24, 2010, 04:47:27 PM
Guys,when we are on here all the same time,PM each other to go to live chat.
This thread is way off topic and is about to explode.
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
it's not off topic. . .  It's just escalated from a dream to potential reality
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on February 25, 2010, 03:43:25 AM
Dominic - I'd suggest you prioritize your list, there's stuff you can do there, and more than can be done in 1 day.  

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 25, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
Hey,Dominic,just need to clarify....
Do you have the harmonic balancer already off?
How far down is  the motor stripped?
Why does the oil pan have to come off??
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 25, 2010, 04:53:11 PM
Yeah. . .Lea and I were talking and wondering about why the pan had to come off.  You suspect a leak?  They rarely leak.  It's usually a sending unit, or a valve cover gasket fooling you.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on February 26, 2010, 08:57:01 AM

Quote from: CBarge
Hey,Dominic,just need to clarify....

Do you have the harmonic balancer already off?  How far down is  the motor stripped?
The balancer is off and the timing chain is exposed:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2463/3986143916_455838eea3.jpg)


This is not the most recent image - as the one above shows the removed timing chain cover - but this is how far stripped the engine is:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4349927561_c3bb45dbe8.jpg)


Quote from: CBarge
Why does the oil pan have to come off??
When I removed the timing chain cover lots of coolant ran down the engine block, past the exposed lip of the oil pan and into the engine oil reservoir.  I then drained the pan of the mixture, but I'd really like to get in there and clean out the pan to make sure I got all the coolant out.  Plus, the pan gasket is toast and the car leaks oil from the pan like a sieve.  I figure since I've got this far - might as well take care of that, too.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2010, 11:15:13 AM
Are you sure it wasn't a leaky valve cover?
 
Tell me where you saw it leaking.  Front or back.  Sides?
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2010, 11:16:20 AM
We're asking because it's unusual for a LA pan to leak and they are a real PITA to take out
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Post by: firedome on February 26, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
Compared to some I've seen that timing gear area looks kinda sludgy-dirty, were oil changes extended at some point in it's life?

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2010, 02:06:58 PM
Looks typical small block to me.  LA's don't have tons of oil flying around in the front
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Post by: firedome on February 27, 2010, 06:23:21 AM
Isn't there some kind of oil feed to the timing gear/chain?

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Post by: Steve on February 27, 2010, 07:22:55 AM
yes, but it's just a dribble and it goes on the chain.  The chain slings most of it off.  That's why it looks like that.  See that little shiney arrow just left under the big gear, the oil comes out of the cam maub bearing, falls on that and it directs it into the chain at the lower.  Since the chain runs clockwise, it stays on the gear long enough to reach the upper gear befor it gets slung off.
 
Small Block lesson of the day.
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Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 27, 2010, 09:03:33 AM
Still waiting on Dominic's reply on  the oil leak..
 
Having coolant drop down there is a given and normal.
It is lighter than oil and typically all comes out after being drained--which already has been done.
After getting the engine running,do another oil change for added insurance .
Moisture inside the engine is caused by condensation from the heating/cooling cycles is normal and no different than a few drops of coolant in the base.
It wont hurt.
 
I would suggest cleaning up the block as much as possible and leave the oil pan on.
Priority is getting the motor back together and running. 
After some running time,you can determine if the pan is really leaking.
Then you can make the judgement call to pop the pan off.
My 2 cents.
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Post by: Steve on February 27, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
We need to find out where this big leak is first.  If it's the rear main seal. . . I want to pull it.  It may need the crank cleaned up and new bearings.  Those rubber seals only leak when there is slop in the rear main or they were installed wrong.
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Post by: attkrlufy on March 01, 2010, 12:52:48 PM

Quote from: CBarge
{snipped text} 
I would suggest cleaning up the block as much as possible and leave the oil pan on.
Priority is getting the motor back together and running. 
After some running time,you can determine if the pan is really leaking.
Then you can make the judgement call to pop the pan off.
My 2 cents.
I'm inclined to agree.  I talked to someone else about this and the answer was almost word-for-word what you guys mentioned.  Apparently dropping these pans is a PitA, so I'm thinking it's one of those "diminishing returns" kinda things.  Since I've been told bu you and others there's no apparent danger in the situation I described earlier - the pan can wait.

And sorry about my spotty attendance record.  We were wrapping up our marking period so I've spent the past 2 weeks grading papers and writing comments.  It's one of the benefits of being a teacher. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)  I haven't always had the time to get online.
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Post by: attkrlufy on March 01, 2010, 12:56:57 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
We need to find out where this big leak is first.  If it's the rear main seal. . . I want to pull it.  It may need the crank cleaned up and new bearings.  Those rubber seals only leak when there is slop in the rear main or they were installed wrong.
Well I always assumed it was the pan since oil appears to pool around the pan and the bottom of it.  But you wrote that oil leaks are notorious for coming from elsewhere and seeming like they're from the pan.

Since the head gaskets were toast, it's entirely possible that the majority of oil I saw was actually from them.  As you've seen in the pictures, it's a pretty dirty engine.  So I'm going to try to clean it up.  After this work is done, I'll be able to see just exactly where this oil is coming from after the engine has put some miles on it.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 02, 2010, 01:37:04 AM
Dominic,no problem.I understand you have a job to do.
There are more important thing than being on here--at least my wife tells me everyday!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif)
Besides there is still time before Steve comes to help.
I can help March 20-21 or in April.
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 15, 2010, 02:56:18 PM
Just checking in - we're still on for the weekend of the 27th-28th, correct?  Nothing's changed?

Update:

I just took the passenger fender off for easy access to the engine bay (plus I needed to remove the power antenna).  Timing chain is off......rockers are back in place.....at this point, the only thing left is to put the parts back on after I clean up the engine bay a bit (I'll post a question about that in another forum) and do some minor work here-and-there over the next week and a half.

I'm gettin' kinda antsy.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif)


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Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 15, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
You'll have some of the Best & the Brightest doing a Kamikazi attack on that.  By the time the dust settles and they're gone, you'll have a brand new car.
Wish I could be there if nothing more than tool cleaner.
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Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 15, 2010, 04:05:55 PM
Roger,I can leave Friday night 26th ,crash,get up Saturday 27th and help.Leave after supper and be at home for work on Sunday.
Dominic,I can come down April 3 and 4th..
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 15, 2010, 05:16:40 PM
OK  we gotta get this together.  I know we're doing both cars. . .
 
So am I doing Dom's car with you and Roger?  And doing Rogers car on Sunday?
 
We never did find out why we're replacing the oil pan gasket
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 15, 2010, 05:37:10 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
We never did find out why we're replacing the oil pan gasket
We're not.  :)  Like you said, too much trouble for now.  Better to wait and see if the oil was from weepy valve cover gaskets.  If not - well, the oil will at least be on the BOTTOM of the engine this time.
Quote from: POLARACO
So am I doing Dom's car with you and Roger?  And doing Rogers car on
Sunday?
My understanding was we were all working on my car on the 27th and Roger's on the 28th - and that Roger was putting you guys up the night of the 26th and 27th in Binghamton's finest five-star hotel aka the floor of his garage.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

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Post by: Steve on March 15, 2010, 05:51:17 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)


 
I don't care!  But Leaburn will saw the place down with that snoring of his. . . . (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  
 
I'll sleep in the truck
 
Good news on the pan.  We should have it done in less time then.  I need to remember my tubing bending tools.  Make sure you have enough line and fittings to go all the way to the front.  I can cut and double flare, so that is not a problem.
 
I suggest those rubber gaskets like the ones used on the magnums.  They have a metal backbone in them.  Not sure if they are the same for the LA, but I will check for you
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Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 15, 2010, 06:48:06 PM
Whatever works.
I can go to Dom's for Saturday only.
The only way I can help Roger is do the work on Saturday.
One or the other I can't do both same day..
 
CBarge2010-03-15 22:49:03
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Post by: Steve on March 15, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Let's get Doms Car done.  Rogers needs more time.
 
Roger, I assume you have a engine hoist?
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Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 16, 2010, 02:15:36 AM
Ok,kewl.
Dom's it is.
Friday night I need a place to crash.
Are we meeting at Rogers Friday night  and then Saturday AM  going to Dom's???
 
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 16, 2010, 07:08:07 AM

I'm good, you can stay at my place Lea, I'll have to ride up to Doms with one of you though, my R knee can't take pushing on the gas pedal for more than about 10 min. Oddly standing up is not usually a problem.

I won't have that 8k mile 318 until May or later, it's in Long Island, so I'm just going to put the freeze plugs in this one  for now and see how it runs, I think it'll be fine. That'll give me time to completely redo the other one next year, and get this thing on the road for now, finally...I hope. I've got freeze plugs and paint, should I pick up f & r seals and?
Lea if we can't giterdone on mine that w/e maybe we can that date April 3/4?

Oh and yes I do have an engine hoist.
firedome2010-03-16 11:08:59
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Post by: glen cyr on March 16, 2010, 02:14:50 PM
I'm good, you can stay at my place Lea, I'll have to ride up to Doms with one of you though, my R knee can't take pushing on the gas pedal for more than about 10 min. Oddly standing up is not usually a problem.


Take the Toyota,.....i hear the pedals are easy to the touch!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Glen
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Post by: Steve on March 16, 2010, 02:50:32 PM
[/QUOTE]

No sense putting seals in it if you are going to swap it out.
 
Then if it's almost ready to come out, I can probably put the plugs in and drop it back in for ya to finish at your liesure
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Post by: Steve on March 16, 2010, 02:52:12 PM
Quote from: owatajrkiam
I'm good, you can stay at my place Lea, I'll have to ride up to Doms with one of you though, my R knee can't take pushing on the gas pedal for more than about 10 min. Oddly standing up is not usually a problem.



 
 
Take the Toyota,.....i hear the pedals are easy to the touch!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 

Fast Cruise control
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Post by: firedome on March 16, 2010, 03:46:31 PM
I want to do the seals, I won't be putting the other engine in for a
year or 2 and I want to drive it before that. Plus I think I may as
well do a few mild mods to the other one before I put it in
there.   

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Post by: Steve on March 16, 2010, 05:26:43 PM
Then the smart thing is to take the front cover off and drop the oil pan.  We'll need to flip the motor.  I can get it that far if we can hussle it out.  But Leanburn is going to have to drop it back in.


 
So you may as well get a chain and gears, oil pan gasket, timing cover set, water pump, valve cover gaskets.  Let's do it all.  Lea, I'll get the rear main done, at least.  I know that's a touchy area for you.
 
DOM!  The valve cover gaskets I was talking about are not available.  Just get the Neoprene ones then
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Post by: firedome on March 17, 2010, 04:59:25 AM

Check.  Will head to Napa this week. Is timing gear fiber or steel or? Any recommendations?



I see Summit has a double roller chain and sprockets for minimally more
than the standard single gear, will it fit under the standard timing
cover, if so it seems a no-brainer to go with it?



How about oil pump while the pan is off and cleaned?


firedome2010-03-17 09:47:02
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 18, 2010, 05:29:43 AM
What timing stuff should I buy!

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on March 18, 2010, 06:58:22 AM
Definately purchase the steel gear double roller timing chain. It will fit no problem and last longer. I always try to use a higher volume oil pump in my engines when I build them. I try and use one that will give me between 40-80 psi when I am on the highway. Most stock oil pumps produce very low oil pressure at idle and only go up to around 40 psi on the highway. I have found that my engines last very well after improving the oil system...actually the first mod I ever did to my first hotrod was to install a relief valve spring from a 426 hemi into the oil pump. That engine went over 200,000 miles before I rebuilt it. When I tore it down I found very little wear and tear on the bearings.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2010, 08:04:17 AM
He's only keeping it for a year or so.  This is a patch job, but you are correct.  All this stuff is relitive low cost, but I guees it's need to know what your palns are.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 18, 2010, 03:59:01 PM
Well the stock 318 F3 I drove back & forth to work 100 mi every
day, 25 yrs ago, went over 200K miles and I never touched that engine
in any way. So the single chain timing gear and stock everything else
was just fine.  

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
Well Rog
 
You could gwt an oil pump and we can inspect that one
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Post by: Stewart Van Petten on March 19, 2010, 12:41:41 AM
I have driven some mildly modifyed 318s to well over 200,000 miles also and they were still running fine. So not saying you can not run them stock. I just like to improve things especially if they are already apart for other reasons. Cheap insurance to install some better parts. 
 
My first hotrod engine was driven pretty hard. I raced it as much as I could. I even raced it in the winter on ice tracks on frozen lakes. It was still running pretty well when I rebuilt it 22 years later. The rear pistons and cylinders were worn down more than the rest and it was burning a bit of oil. The crank and bearings were in excellent shape probably for a couple of reasons. I installed the high pressure relief spring in the oil pump at 13,000 miles before I did any other modifications. I also changed the oil and filter on a regular basis. If you give an engine regular service and they will sure last a lot longer!
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 19, 2010, 04:44:13 AM
The double gear & chain is only negligibly more expensive so I'll
go with that. Prob pick up a pump too if they aren't pricy...



Looks like that w/e for Doms car won't be as warm as it is now - bring
your long johns boys, it's outside, and no facilities as far as I know,
he's got an apt and the car isn't there...



Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2010, 08:33:53 AM
So we will have no air or electric available?
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 19, 2010, 03:50:10 PM
I don't think so. Dominic, hello?

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2010, 05:04:27 PM
Better email me the address and Phone Number
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Post by: firedome on March 20, 2010, 05:03:04 AM
K

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 20, 2010, 07:05:02 AM
I meant your information. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 20, 2010, 10:19:36 AM
Yeah...information.
I drive the old fashioned way...no GPS
I need an adress to get to Rogers.
It will be dark when I arrive.I leave work at 5:30.
 
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Post by: Steve on March 20, 2010, 07:09:29 PM
I got it lea
 
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Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 21, 2010, 03:40:46 PM
The bar is open until 11 PM... 

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 21, 2010, 05:37:55 PM
Good.Just might make last call..LOL!!

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 22, 2010, 04:53:23 AM
If you leave ~5;30, you should be here ~ 8:30 I'd think... I better stock up!

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 22, 2010, 07:00:50 PM

Yeah, like Roger said.  There's no air or heat where the car is
located.  Here's a pic of what type of environment we'll be working in:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4454134225_279faa6e3a.jpg)


It's a row of connected garages that's on the premises of a large apartment complex.  MY complex is down the street - but it doesn't have garages, which is why I'm storing the car there.

I hooked up an extension cord to the outlet in the back so we can run up to about 13 amps of gear off the circuit.

The car is all ready for you guys.  Here's what it looks like now:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4454134609_9ed9b6e178.jpg)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4454135143_ea67590b11.jpg)

I assume if the weather is an issue we can stuff a space heater in there to keep warm.  Plus my wife promises to keep us plied with hot drinks and food from Ithaca Bakery. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley30.gif)  It'll be cold in the morning, but it's supposed to be sunny and 45 degrees in the afternoon.  Still, I figure we'll break and go back to my place every other hour-or-so to warm up and use the rest-rooms.  Not ideal, I know.  Sorry.





Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 22, 2010, 07:08:43 PM
Oh, I know I said I had a compressor - but it's doing screwy things (like blowing circuits) which is why there's no air.  If anyone wants to bring one - be my guest.

FYI - Roger CLEARLY cut a deal with the devil because the weather is going to be much warmer when we work on his car, Sunday.  Nice work, Rog.  Hope it was worth it.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley37.gif)


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2010, 07:29:16 PM
Guys. . I'm running into a problem here. . . .
 
Can't elaborate. . . But it's family.
 
Workin on it
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 23, 2010, 01:16:24 PM
Family always comes first, last, and always... even over Mopars.

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 24, 2010, 06:04:43 AM
Lea, PM sent

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 24, 2010, 09:34:14 AM
OK  I am out this weekend.  Things don't look that good yet.
 
Leaburn suggested the following weekend, then we can spend 2 days, 2 guys.
 
Opinions????
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 24, 2010, 11:09:02 AM






IMO it'd be difficult to fix the 2 cars in 2 days, considering the work
needed, especially with 2 hours+ in travel time back & forth to
Ithaca, so maybe it'd be better to separate the jobs.

Dominic started this thread, so take care of his issues, we
can always deal with mine another time, I'm sure Dom can figure out
arrangements there for next weekend... I can't put off VT any longer, I
need to get there to make
sure my camp
survived winter w/o plumbing damage, I have to drain it completely
every winter: every trap, drain, water heater, toilets, washer, etc,
and we often have problems in Spring from the -25 below winter temps
there , and the town
turns the water back on April 15.


firedome2010-03-24 15:44:28
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 24, 2010, 03:28:28 PM
That weekend is Easter Sunday
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 24, 2010, 03:39:48 PM
I was going to go to Dominic's on the april weekend anyways.
As Steve mentioned,two days,two guys can get the job done.
Dominic knows of a good hotel near his apartment building.
We can do Roger another time after he takes care of his cottage business.
Warmer weather is always a plus,IMO.
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 24, 2010, 05:13:08 PM
Or I can slip up there some weekend and pull the engine for him so he can do his ting.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 25, 2010, 05:17:56 AM
Whatever works for you guys, if I can get my camp water ready next w/e
(Easter), any w/e after that I can be here anytime you can make it, as
long as I know in advance somewhat, as I mentioned before, my wife has
to reserve Friday time off at least a week in advance... we always go
to VT on Fri AM and back Sunday PM... that gives us one whole day there
w/o
driving, in addtion to some time there Fri afternoon and Sunday AM...
wish the
place was closer than 6 hrs away.



In previous engine pulling endeavours I tend to run into problems with
putting it back in more than in the pulling it out part. Plus
installing things like seals and timing gears right. Disconnecting
stuff and pulling, not so much...


firedome2010-03-25 09:24:15
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 25, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
I'm sorry you ran into a bit of a situation, Polaraco.  I hope it works out for you.  Truthfully, next weekend is better for me, anyway.  It'll also be warmer.

You guys wanna go with that?  3 guys, 2 days, 1 car - 1st weekend in April?

Roger - I can still swing by this coming weekend if you'd like the help.  PM me if you'd like some company. 


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 25, 2010, 12:26:26 PM
It's Easter weekend
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 25, 2010, 02:28:50 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
It's Easter weekend
Well, I'm certainly not going to speak for anyone else here, but if you can't make it this weekend because of this unexpected emergency - or next weekend because it's Easter - I'm certainly not going to bust your stones over it.  I wouldn't sweat it.

Leaburn mentioned coming down next weekend (better for him, apparently) to help me (better for me, also) so I'm perfectly happy to wait the extra week.  Since Roger is busy next weekend then if Roger wants help this weekend, I'll go down to help and if Leaburn or anyone else wants to join in - then it sounds like that will work, too.

Sound good?

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 25, 2010, 05:19:09 PM
I have to do the Grandie thing for Easter.
 
Put on my fat bunny costume. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
I am postponing my trip to Oregon, I got a reprieve.  So I may be able to work something out after Easter.  Leanburn????  Gerry will have your head
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 25, 2010, 06:35:44 PM
Gerri says no for the Easter weekend,and the next weekend I am working the Saturday.
So it will be the middle of April for me,guys.
By then the Barge will be out of storage and just might drive it down there..
 
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on March 26, 2010, 10:54:08 AM
Okay.  Well, unfortunately, mid April is no good for me.  I coach lacrosse at the school where I teach, so starting mid-April (April 10th) we have Saturday games until late-May.  Which means all those weekends are shot.

So I guess I'll try to get as much done by myself over spring break and if late-May comes around and Wanda's still in pieces then maybe we can try to get together again.

Thanks for trying, guys.  I appreciate it.


Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on March 26, 2010, 04:40:15 PM
After next w/e I can be around ,if anyone wants to do an engine pulling party....

Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: Steve on March 26, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Lea and I talked about the 3rd week in April.
Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on April 10, 2010, 06:00:35 AM

Back from Spring Break!  I wanted to leave the computer alone for a while - I feel like I've been staring at it so much lately, I'm going monocular.

So, I put an ad in Craigslist last week and found a guy who I thought would work out well.  After 7 hours of working on Wanda, the engine has gone from this:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4454134609_9ed9b6e178.jpg)

to THIS:  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4507424673_7296537d6f.jpg)

There's still some issues left to resolve - but one more day should do it.  Unfortunately, that can't happen for at least a month - maybe even two months - as my job will eat up all my weekends from now until at LEAST May 22nd (maybe even later than that (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)).

Anyway - want to thank all you guys for your offer to help and to try to make this get-together work.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley33.gif)  I'll still have a ton of questions for you all online, so you ain't rid of me just yet.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)






Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: firedome on April 10, 2010, 07:06:55 AM
Good work Dom... who did you get to help you?





Title: Asking for help via an online listing - how?
Post by: attkrlufy on April 11, 2010, 05:32:00 AM
A local Ithacan named Bob.  He's an interesting guy - very easy going.  He seems competent - we'll see when we start Wanda up.  Hopefully nothing flies off.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)