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Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on October 29, 2007, 05:15:55 PM
I just realized I don't have any pictures of Polaraco on here.  I also realized, I haven't taken any yet!  *Makes note: Take time off from work and bring the car and camera to a nice place*  It would help if it was COMPLETELY DONE!  (Ahem *Drops subtle hint*)
 
Anyway. . .here's the list of things left to be done.
 
Cosmetic
Sun Visor Clips installed
Front Seat Trims
Chrome Arm rest backs installed
Carpet and trim Trunk
 
Body
Take car back to body shop to repair 3 rust spots blossoming LR 1/4
Repaint header. .  (My Fault)
 
Mechanical
Replace Front Sway bar bushings with better ones.  If that fails, put old sway bar back in.
Send car out to have the drive shaft angle checked for trueness horizonatally.  I just don't have the facilities to see it.  (Scheduled for Monday)
Replace RF rim which is bent.  (In Progress)
Replace window channel (Next weekend hopefully)
Improve LF defroster air flow  (Next weekend hopefully)
 
Future/optional
Work on more power out of the 5.2 or stroke a 5.2 block
 
Drive the damned thing
 
So far, in the last month  I have
 
Finally rewired the area where the two different harnesses meet and installed rear battery.
Replaced the rear carrier
Replaced the 4 Shocks
Installed a new radio with Serius Sat Radio (My wife wanted it)
Rebalanced front tires
adjusted drive shaft pitch and replaced broken trans mount
Adjust T Bar height
Oh there's probably more. . .
 
I'll get pics for you later in the week.
 
POLARACO2008-04-14 13:35:28
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on October 29, 2007, 05:20:01 PM
Steve , when you go to have the rust spots fixed idk if its a big deal
just figure I remind you have em look at the brace bars under the hook
where they bolt to the fender , the paint there was starting to chip.

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on October 29, 2007, 05:28:28 PM
I am doing them as we speak.  I already pulled them back and painted everything and cleared.  In the morning all I have to do is crank the bolts back down.  I consider that done already
 
POLARACO2007-10-29 21:29:08
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: James Brown Jr, on October 29, 2007, 10:05:04 PM
maybe some new pics???
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on October 30, 2007, 12:55:24 PM
Your wish is my command
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/POO1.jpg)
 
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POLARACO2007-10-30 17:50:36
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on October 30, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
Nice lookin ride, good thing i was able to escape the trunk...

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on October 30, 2007, 02:37:49 PM
They aint milk crates anymore. . . (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on November 01, 2007, 08:57:02 PM

Them seats are comfortable!, compliment to Bawby!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Potatoe2007-11-02 00:57:26
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on November 01, 2007, 10:29:03 PM
I know your going to chastize me yet again Steve,but....
did it ALWAYS have a white top???
I thought it was ALL green!?!?!?!??!
It looks great I just don't remember the white top!!!
"It looks good on YOU though!!!"ardog2007-11-02 02:30:40
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on November 01, 2007, 10:35:59 PM
 
Quote from: POLARACO
Your wish is my command
Hows about that check so I can buy that 67!?!?!?!?!?
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 02, 2007, 02:13:54 AM
It used to have a black vinyl yop.The white is much better.Looks sharp.
I want to thank Steve for letting me drive the car during my visit.
Looks like the LED taillights have some bulbs (board?) out.Bummer.
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on November 02, 2007, 08:18:57 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/72Green_Side.jpg)
 
This is the original car Arlen.  This is probably where you got the green from. . . That was a year and a half ago
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on November 02, 2007, 08:32:56 AM
Man what a drastic change, and geeze that year and a half went to damned fast.

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on November 02, 2007, 07:24:13 PM
Oh yeah MUCH better lookin now!!!
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: James Brown Jr, on November 03, 2007, 06:39:40 AM
no offence Steve. but i kinda prefer the black top. i think the white makes it look too "prestigious". but other than that. I LOVE THE DAMN THING
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on November 03, 2007, 07:15:51 AM
Think Bigger James. . .Think Bigger
 
That was a green top
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on November 03, 2007, 07:59:59 AM
Bingo Steve.

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on November 06, 2007, 02:51:54 PM
*  Checks his list of things to strike off *
 

Cosmetic
Sun Visor Clips installed
Front Seat Trims
Chrome Arm rest backs installed
Carpet and trim Trunk
 
Body
Take car back to body shop to repair 3 rust spots blossoming LR 1/4
Repaint header. .  (My Fault)
 
Mechanical
DONE!  PERFECT   Replace Front Sway bar bushings with better ones.  If that fails, put old sway bar back in.
At shop right now    Send car out to have the drive shaft angle checked for trueness horizontally.  I just don't have the facilities to see it.  (Scheduled for Monday)
Replace RF rim which is bent.  (In Progress)
DONE!   Replace window channel (Next weekend hopefully)
DONE!   Improve LF defroster air flow  (Next weekend hopefully)
 
Future/optional
New Hugh's Intake on order  This will be done in about 3 weeks.  Work on more power out of the 5.2 or stroke a 5.2 block
 
No Leaburn. . It's not done yet.  BUT IT'S A HELLO ALLOT CLOSER THAN YOURS AND WE STARTED THEM AT THE SAME TIME!  AND I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
POLARACO2007-11-06 20:43:51
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on November 06, 2007, 03:33:11 PM
BTW
 
I finally parked some pictures of Polaraco.  More than I posted here
http://www.moparfins.com/Polaraco/Polaraco_The_Car.htm (http://www.moparfins.com/Polaraco/Polaraco_The_Car.htm)
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on November 16, 2007, 02:02:52 PM
Tomorrow I put that intake in.  Let's see if it is what they say
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on November 16, 2007, 02:06:17 PM
Keep us posted!!!!
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Mike on November 22, 2007, 03:54:41 PM
Get that CD changer in yet Steve?

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on January 19, 2008, 10:11:18 AM

After several months of no floor heat, I finally fixed it! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)  Now my tootsies won't be so cold.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Vintage Air in a 69 to 73 C Body Mopar!
 
For those of you that don't know, I put a Vintage Air Mark IV Universal heat/AC system under the dash.  This is the first Vintage Air system they know of in a C Body.  I got tired of trying to make the original system work. . . . .   Heater core was bad, one leak after another under the dash, expansion valve wouldn't work right with the new style compressor.  The big one was the heater core!  Oh Well. . .Out it comes.
 
The vintage air system fit in there with no problems.  There is even room to spare behind the glove box.  I was able to use all the original A/C and defroster ducts.    I had to cut the defrost ducts back on the 72 system to get the hoses in.  This gave me more air to the windshield.  The defroster ducts they supply were too hard to install.  The only major modification needed was the glove box hits the unit and it's too tight to put in properly.  So ol' Stitches had an idea and he did the box over for me.  I'm just waiting for it to come back now. (Proverbial milk crate again. . .Hint Hint)  Then I can close it up permanently. 
 
The only other custom Mod I had to do was for the heater hoses.  I got some 1/2 inch soft copper and a few sweat elbows and soldered some fittings together so I could make a straight shot into the heater fittings with a hose nipple.  I extended the copper up into the engine compartment to make it more serviceable. and it's pretty easy to install the hoses now.   You will have to fabricate a filler plate for the AC Hoses and the heater hoses to fill the opening in the firewall.  I made mine of metal and used some polyurathane roofing cement to seal them when I screwed them to the fire wall.  If you decide to do this, you have the tips now. 
 
About 20 minutes after I put it in the unit stopped working.  Called for tech support and found out they had about 40 bad computers and I was a lucky one.    It was easy to change and just in time to make my appointment at the A/C shop to get the hoses made up and have it charged.  Never though of checking the floor ducts for operation.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
The damper doors are operated with little stepper motors which the ECU runs.  Apparently, when I put in the new ECU, I plugged in one of the motors incorrectly.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif)  I was off one pin and the sockets are not keyed.  That's partially because I am getting blind as a bat and always in a freakin rush! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
So I took out the ash tray, glove box and center ducts to diagnose it.  Not too bad a job. . .  The unit is serviceable the way it is.  Cool!  Once I determined which stepper was not operating right, I went back to the ECU behind the glove box and fixed the problem.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
In the mean time, I had the A/C clutch coil fry on me.  When changing that on these newer compressors, the clutch apparently holds the seal.  I blew out all the freon. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)  I'll get it recharged next week.
 
When that is done, I will be toasty in the winter and chilly in the summer. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
POLARACO2008-01-19 15:12:16
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: James Brown Jr, on January 19, 2008, 12:40:21 PM
wow that kinda sucks huh?? congrats on the heat and A/c
 
PS. at least you have heat lol.
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on January 20, 2008, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
 
 
Anyway. . .here's the list of things left to be done.
 
Cosmetic
Front Seat Trims
Chrome Arm rest backs installed
Carpet and trim Trunk
 
Body
Take car back to body shop to repair 3 rust spots blossoming LR 1/4
Repaint header. .  (My Fault)
 
Mechanical
Replace RF rim which is bent.  (In Progress)
NEW
Oil Leak in front of engine.  Looks like it's a dip stick tube
 
Future/optional
Work on more power out of the 5.2 or stroke a 5.2 block ABANDONED
 
Drive the damned thing
 
So far, in the last month  I have
 
Finally rewired the area where the two different harnesses meet and installed rear battery.
Replaced the rear carrier
Replaced the 4 Shocks
Installed a new radio with Serius Sat Radio (My wife wanted it)
Rebalanced front tires
adjusted drive shaft pitch and replaced broken trans mount
Adjust T Bar height
Oh there's probably more. . .
 
1-19-08
Sun Visor Clips installed  DONE


Replace window channel (Next weekend hopefully)  DONE
Improve LF defroster air flow  (Next weekend hopefully)  DONE 
 
POLARACO2008-01-20 22:20:29
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on January 21, 2008, 04:34:57 PM
Another first
 
This should work on 69 to 73 C Bodies.
78 Aspen/Volare Delay Wipers in a 72 Dodge Polara.  Bolt IN!
 
With a donation from Butch, I got a wiper motor and harness from a 78 Aspen.  This is the delay setup commonly used in that body.  I separated the wiper harness from the main harness so all I had was the wiper portion.  I sent it out to have a harness made, but with no success.  He returned the wiper motor and harness to me.  I had it working in an hour, and correctly.  So far, the only modification is the switch lever itself.  The Aspen lever has a step in the rod.  The 72 Polara switch shaft is straight.  Bob took the switch to a mutual friend and cut the shaft and silver soldered it together again to the correct shape and length.
 
The motor is the same footprint as the 2 speed motors found in the 69 to 73 C's.  Any one of those with the open cowl.  I have to look, but it may be possible in the slabs, but the switch will be a problem.  These switches slide from side to side, while most slabs rotate.
 
So far, the bench test works great.  The square end on the motor is correct.  Dimensionally is appears to be 100%.  As soon as the weather breaks, I am going to put it in and test it in the car.  Unless someone else want to try it.. . . (I WANT IT BACK!)
 
I am pretty sure this will work.  If it does, then I'll get a rebuilt motor so it looks perty. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
POLARACO2008-01-21 21:39:35
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on February 16, 2008, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
 
Cosmetic  BOB!
Front Seat Trims
Chrome Arm rest backs installed
Carpet and trim Trunk
 
Body
Take car back to body shop to repair 3 rust spots blossoming LR 1/4
Repaint header. .  (My Fault)
 
Mechanical
Replace RF rim which is bent.  (In Progress)
1-08
Fuel vent system for pressure in tank from fuel injection.
 
Future/optional
Work on more power out of the 5.2 or stroke a 5.2 block ABANDONED
 
Drive the damned thing
 
So far, in the last month  I have
 
Finally rewired the area where the two different harnesses meet and installed rear battery.
Replaced the rear carrier
Replaced the 4 Shocks
Installed a new radio with Serius Sat Radio (My wife wanted it)
Rebalanced front tires
adjusted drive shaft pitch and replaced broken trans mount
Adjust T Bar height
Oh there's probably more. . .
 
1-19-08
Sun Visor Clips installed  DONE


Replace window channel (Next weekend hopefully)  DONE
Improve LF defroster air flow  (Next weekend hopefully)  DONE 
2-17-08
Oil Leak in front of engine.  Looks like it's a dip stick tube.  Front seal. Sigh  BOTH DONE
 
 
I have been trying to get to the timing for months.  I finally got to it today.  Turns out the distributor was about 5 to 6 degrees out of sync. So I had to advance it that much.  You can't do this with a timing light.  It's eyeball only. 
I gave this to the shop next door to my business, who failed to make any changes in 2 weeks.  The set up to check the sync is a pain in the butt.  I got the distributor synced and drove the car over to Bobs.  My buddy, TJ came over and looked at the car too.  He's a Magnum guru.  He suggested I advance the distributor again by another 5 degrees to compensate for the hotter cam.
 
Now, for the first time, since the car was built I got  ========!!!
 
A lesson learned on a conversion to EFI
I have had a pressure problem in the fuel tank since day one.  The EFI system will put so much pressure in the tank it sometimes would push fuel into the charcoal canister in the front of the car.    Last fall, I put 2- 1/4" lines on the vents, looped all the way up to the package tray frame in the trunk and back out.  The tubing is pitched so any fuel in the vent lines could drain back to the tank.  I put the return lines in the middle of the tank to keep it away from the exhaust.  JIC. If I fill the tank too much, the pressure will push fuel out the vents.  I added a couple of fuel filters in the line to act as a seperator, but they fill up and fuel just keeps going.  Eventually it's starts to siphon fuel, when sitting, and leave a puddle on the ground.  Needless to say, I get gas fumes in the car frequently.  I also get a wiff of gas when I came to a stop, (partial full tank) sloshing the gas to the front of the tank.
 
Since I can't use the factory separator, I had to make one.  I got a steel gallon solvant can and some tubing.  I made a bracket so I can mount this to to a support brace in the trunk.  I'll re-plumb the tubing to that.  It's over at the Rad shop now to get soldered all together.  Maybe next weekend I can put it in and see what happens.
 
This is important info for you.  Another lesson learned.
I replaced the tank with an after market tank, it fit perfect.  But because of the fuel spilling, I started to investigate why.  It seems the the factory tank has a network of tubing from the 4 vent tubes on the front of the tank.  Looking at how the vent nipples are fastened to the new tank, I concluded the network of tubes in the tank are not there.  Now I know why the gas goes up my vents.  Moral of the story is, try to use the factory tanks whenever possible.
 
POLARACO2008-02-16 19:01:05
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
I got a busted spring.  Right Rear.
 
Now that I finally got it running right. . . .
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 21, 2008, 05:38:32 PM
Joisey roads,Hobby's heavy foot,and a car that finally runs right= busted spring...LOL
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 21, 2008, 06:21:51 PM
Damn Canadian springs......

Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
Yeah
Made in Michigan
 
Eaton Spring just wrote back.  He went on telling me the basics about springs, mounting and so on.  Told me if the U bolts were loose, it would break in that spot.  (Around the center bolt.)  Nah  That rear isn't moving around.  It was just a bad piece of steel.
 
Either way, it's over the year warranty.  Probably those damned pot holes on Rt 46.  There's a bridge that is nothing but 12" patches and all the man hole covers are 3" below the surface.  Of coarse they are all on the right side of the road right in the lane.
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on March 02, 2008, 05:12:05 PM
That fuel pressure/separation problem I had?  Here's the solution.  Pretty simple really.  Since I took out the factory unit, I had to come up with something different.  The Magnum fuel Injection system was pushing too much fuel out the vents.  Before I made the vents better, it would push fuel into the canister up front.  I'll have 2- 5/16 tubes running from the vent nipples on the tank to this tank, then vent lines back out the trunk. This will get mounted on a support brace in the trunk and will be hidden when the trunk is finished.
 
POLARACO2008-03-02 22:14:20
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: James Brown Jr, on March 03, 2008, 08:12:09 AM
looks great Steve. geez i love ingenuity.
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
Polaraco went to the trans shop to have the torque converter changed today.  The one I used has 140K on it and was starting to chatter with the new found power on the highway.  I guess I got too much torque out of it.
 
Looks like a week + as they are short handed this week.
 
Springs are on order . . 3 weeks before I can install them 
The rest of the vinyl needed to finish the front seat trims is on order. 1 week.
We have all the rest of the materials for the trunk.  Bob is going to custom the trunk, including a tool box built in right at the end of the trunk.
 
Like Brian, the list is getting shorter and shorter.  I could have done with out all these re-do's for one reason or another
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Matt Aker on March 04, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
Any rumors about a magazine write-up?  I think it is well deserved!  I saw on the other side that Ira's car got a little publicity, why not Polaraco?  Your car is MUCH cooler than his drag-wag...
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Brian on March 04, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
Good to see things comming to an end for the Polaraco....but at least you will be pretty much DONE when your list is complete.
 
My list is just to get the car running and driving but I will still have a long way to go before the ol' wagon is as nice as yours Steve.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2008, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: MoparMatt
Any rumors about a magazine write-up?  I think it is well deserved!  I saw on the other side that Ira's car got a little publicity, why not Polaraco?  Your car is MUCH cooler than his drag-wag...
 
Actually, I've been dogging Mopar Action because of the incomplete interior/trunk and now the broken spring and Torque Converter.  My part will be done as the parts come in.  Problem is, I may be getting together with them sooner than I thought.  All has to do with Miss Belvedere
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on March 30, 2008, 01:00:50 PM
Update 3-30-08
 
Torque converter is done
Fuel separator is done  No more gas fumes! and no more liquid spilling on the ground
Springs are here, but don't have the new pads yet, so they weren't done this weekend.  Maybe next week.


 
Now for the bad stuff
 
The fuel mileage has gone into the dumper.  We looked into it today and concluded the O2 Sensor has to be moved closer to the engine.  But the exhaust gases are good and all the parameters are pretty good in idle.  All that can change.  I'll get that done soon too.
 
In the process of working on the O2 Sensor, we managed to burn a wire in the trans harness.  Now it won't shift into OD or lock up.  I think I know which wire got toasted.  It got too late and cold to dig into it.  My buddy TJ will be here tomorrow with his official Mopar Scanner and will look into it.
 
I see I have a problem with that trans harness.  That's the one I DIDN't work on.  TJ!
POLARACO2008-03-30 19:49:10
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Guests on April 05, 2008, 05:11:41 PM
Springs are done.  Here's the difference.  Car rides allot higher now in the rear and is firmer over the bumps.
 
This is a 4 leaf vs. 5 leaf from Alcan.  There are a few things I see I liked.  The spring retainers are rivited to the spring for one thing.  Not theose crappy wrap arounds.  The seconmd thing is he painted the springs separately so there is paint in between the leaves.  As you can see the Eaton springs are oozing rust out all over the place.  And they are about 18 months on the road.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/28/Springs.gif)
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on April 06, 2008, 09:52:43 AM
Here's an odd one maybe you guys have an answer for.
 
What started this quest on the rear springs was a clunk.  It was loud and heavy but definitely on the right side.  Initially I thought it was a bad shock, then a spring.  It was hard to pinpoint exactly where it was.  It sounded like it was in the rear, which made me look at th rear springs.  I thought they were the problem given the way they were puckered and appeared to be broken, but apparently not.  After replacing them with the above, the clunk was greatly reduced.
 
Last night we were chatting about it on the chat box.  Everything we talked about was everything I already looked at, including the body bushings, which I really could use new ones of.
 
This morning I looked at the car sitting at the curb and thought about how much the pitch had changed with the new springs.  It dawned on me that maybe the rake being returned to the car may have put more pressure on the front T Bars.  So I measured them and found the Right Front to be too low.  So I raised the RF T Bar back up.  Drove the car, and it's all but gone now.
 
I have no idea why this simple thing caused the noise.  The only thing I can think of is there isn't enough grease in the socket on the cross member and it's binding. 
 
Any other ideas?
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on April 06, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
 
Here's the progress from the original list with the new stuff added
 
Cosmetic
Sun Visor Clips installed
Front Seat Trims
Chrome Arm rest backs installed
Carpet and trim Trunk
 
Body
Take car back to body shop to repair 3 rust spots blossoming LR 1/4
Repaint header. .  (My Fault)
 
Mechanical
Find out why the MPG went into the dumper.  (Having the O2 sensor moved this week closer to the engine. 4-08)
Replace RF rim which is bent.  (In Progress)  Gets new wheels and Tired tomorrow 4-7-08
 
Drive the damned thing
 
So far, this is what has been done since this thread started. Most of this has been done over the winter
 
Finally rewired the area where the two different harnesses meet and installed rear battery.
Replaced the rear carrier
Replaced the 4 Shocks
Installed a new radio with Serius Sat Radio (My wife wanted it)
Rebalanced front tires
adjusted drive shaft pitch and replaced broken trans mount
Replace Front Sway bar bushings with better ones.  If that fails, put old sway bar back in.
Send car out to have the drive shaft angle checked for trueness horizonatally.  I just don't have the facilities to see it.  (Scheduled for Monday)
Replace window channel (Next weekend hopefully)
Improve LF defroster air flow  (Next weekend hopefully)
Replaced Rear Springs
 Adjust T Bar height
Replaced Shocks
Installed Hughs intake manifold
Replaced front crank seal
Repaird floor air in the Vintage Air box
 
Phew!  This is allot of work!  But it's almost there
 
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Steve on April 11, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
Well I had a scare.
 
But first, I learned that Moog lower control arm bushings are junk.  I changed the RF lower control arm Thursday.  What a difference.  The clunk is gone too.  (It would help if you grease the hell out of the T Bars and sockets (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif) )  There is not quite 11,000 miles on them.
 
While in there, I discovered the new wheel had rubbed through the RF brake hose.  It was through to the reinforcment cords.  YIKES!  Changed that today and was able to strp it back to the frame.  Phew!
 
Tomorrow I will redo the trans mounts with a softer material so it won't vibrate so much.  The trans guy made the new mounts and used a rubber too hard and dropped the tail shaft about 1/4" so I get a shaft vibration.
 
Title: POLARACO Updated 4-14-08
Post by: Matt Aker on April 11, 2008, 03:44:39 PM
Soft brake lines in the front usually have a subtle coil in them to compensate for length.  My front drum cars had a reverse turn before the cylinder.  Check the other side Steve, it's for yer safety.
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Post by: Steve on April 11, 2008, 04:49:31 PM
Yep  Did already Matt.   Thanks.  That was the first thing I looked at when I discovered the right hose.
 
I guess I had the hose set off a tooth in the holder on that side.  It wasn't an issue until I put the new wheels on.
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Post by: Steve on April 14, 2008, 08:39:19 AM
Did the brake hose in 30 minutes.  That's done
 
I had the O2 sensor moved last week and clocked the mileage.  I have to see this again, but I drove it 55 miles and put 2.8 gallons in it.  That worked out to 19.6 MPG vs. 10 to 12.  That was about 30 miles highway.
 
Now I am pretty sure this is accurate.  I wrote down the mileage this time.
 
The O2 sensor is now where I told him to put it in the first place. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley26.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
 
POLARACO2008-04-14 13:41:17
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Post by: Steve on April 14, 2008, 04:25:54 PM
Update
 
Took Polaraco out on Rt 80 for a 71 Mile round trip jaunt.  Filled the tank when I left.  Previous thread. . .Stopped back after the trip.  All I could sqeeze into the tank was 3 gallons.   About 10 miles were stop and go to Bobs shop.
 
Not bad considering most of that end of Rt 80 is all hills up and down.  Cruised with the cruse control at around 70 MPH the whole time except for the turn around and a few gooses to change lanes,  Two WOT's while merging. . . . Not really trying hard.
 
I got
 
[color=#ff0000 size=7]23.6666  MPG[/color]
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Post by: Jimmy on April 14, 2008, 04:41:43 PM
[color=#ff0000 size=6]DON'T CHANGE A THING!!![/color]
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Post by: Steve on April 14, 2008, 05:10:57 PM
You got that right Jim. . .  There's nothing left to change anyway. 
 
Would you believe I had to tune it up already?  Almost 11,000 miles since I started driving it.  It will get more when Bob's done with it.
 
POLARACO2008-04-14 22:11:54
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Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 14, 2008, 05:34:40 PM
That's Dippy MPG material,Steve.
She gets 24 on the highway.
You need to drive the car more often on longer stretches.
It took over 10-15,000 miles for my NY'ers 440 to break in and settle down.Still runs great.
 
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Post by: Steve on April 14, 2008, 05:59:19 PM
Cripes Lea. . You can park the dippy inside the Polaraco.  It's probably 500 pounds lighter too.  I had some stop and go too.  It wasn't a true test. . that was preliminary.  Lots of hills, alittle stop and go. . .  I really wasn't trying.
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Post by: James Brown Jr, on April 15, 2008, 09:13:50 PM
well there ya go steve i'm happy for ya.congrats on economy
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Post by: firedome on April 16, 2008, 04:48:05 AM
That's amazing mpg for a car that size & weight!! Without me going
back thru all the hsitory to look, Polaraco has a newer, not a stock
engine, right?  That kind of fuel efficiency makes it almost
practical as a daily driver!! I bet gas will be $4.00 by the end of the
year, though...boo!

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Post by: Steve on April 16, 2008, 06:11:09 AM
Yes it's a 92 Magnum 5.2 with the factory computer and a 518 overdrive trans in a 72 Polara.  The two worst parts were the trans mount and the electrical.
 
Some guys have done this with 5.9's in A's and B's.  But they go for performance.  I had a dream.  .and it came true.  Yeah buddy! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
As far as I know, it's the only C body in the world done to this level.  I suppose, if I wanted, I could go all the way with it and perf it out.  But that defeats the purpose.
 
POLARACO2008-04-16 11:13:02
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Post by: firedome on April 16, 2008, 11:20:31 AM
What were the actual differences between the Magnum 5.2 and 5.9 and the 318/360 they were based on - assuming that fuel inj. replaced carbs, etc...  I 've always wondered if there were internal changes...  and whether they as bulletproof?
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Post by: Steve on April 16, 2008, 11:33:49 AM
Magnums have high flow heads and slightly bigger valves.  I believe just the exhaust.  Magnums have roller lifters and use a higher alloy iron for the block.  You can put 200,000 miles on one and only have about .005 ridge.
 
You can bolt Magnum heads to an LA and do the same thing.  But you need to use a different push rod to get oil up to the top. 
 
Looking at one installed, it looks like the Magnum is a wider wedge, but it's probably deceiving.  It seems to sit different in the engine compartment.  I guess I am comparing it to a 65 to 68 which had a narrower fender well then the 72 has.
 
POLARACO2008-04-17 17:36:39
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Post by: Mike on April 17, 2008, 10:16:42 AM
You are the man Steve, you have turned the Polaraco around full circle
glad its shapping up to how you've wanted it to be for sometime now.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

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Post by: Matt Aker on April 17, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
23.4 MPH is very commendable, good show Steve!  Jimmy said it best...  DON'T CHANGE A THING!
 
I got the same mileage from a 440 once, between Myrtle Beach and West Va.  Nobody believed me on THAT board, all highway and 75mph.  I filled it and was in disbelief myself (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) I thought my sending unit was reading incorrectly.
 
It's all in how you drive...  and you can't stuff 10-gallons of shiite in a 5-gallon bucket!
 
My '66 NYer got almost 24 mpg once.....     those were the days!
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Post by: Steve on April 17, 2008, 04:15:25 PM
Well this may be a shocker to you, , , ,
 
The next day, I drove the car on a bunch of short highway trips.  Car never really had a chance to cool down so I didn't loose anything there.  Total for that was 127 miles on 5 Gallons!  Do the math
 
As soon as I get this left bushing replaced and a good alignment, I am taking it on a long trip.  It may get all the way up to our original estimates of 27.  I did the math carefully on that to come up with that.  Ofcoarse there are always variables.
 
For a while there, I thought I had a major screwup in my building of the engine.  But as in many cases, my instincts told me to put the O2 sensor near the engine.  I speced it that way when the duals were done.  But Ol' Nick there decided to do it's way.  You can bet he caught a pile of crap from me about that!
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Post by: Stitcherbob on April 17, 2008, 08:03:54 PM

Quote from: MoparMatt
23.4 MPH is very commendable, good show Steve!  Jimmy said it best...  DON'T CHANGE A THING!
 
I got the same mileage from a 440 once, between Myrtle Beach and West Va.  Nobody believed me on THAT board, all highway and 75mph.  I filled it and was in disbelief myself (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) I thought my sending unit was reading incorrectly.
 
It's all in how you drive...  and you can't stuff 10-gallons of shiite in a 5-gallon bucket!
 


I think a relatively stock 440 in a C body with a 440 6 bbl intake would return good economy numbers on steady highway miles because you would be running off a center 2bbl carb mostly. Add a 4speed 518 with an Ultrabell to fit the RB engine and wonder what the MPG would be then?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)
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Post by: Steve on April 18, 2008, 12:31:16 PM
But you also said a 440 is allot of cavity to fill too.
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Post by: Stitcherbob on April 18, 2008, 07:59:43 PM

Oh most definitely! A 383-400 would be better. But I would like to see a 440 6bbl's cruising numbers at a constant 65 or 70mph. With the mass of the car already up to speed, it wouldn't need much to keep it rolling, so the 2 bbl center carb could be enough......hmmmmmm(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)

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Post by: Stitcherbob on April 18, 2008, 08:28:22 PM
BTW....Polaraco updates without pics of seat side trims? WTF? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)