MoparFins

Members Projects => MEMBERS Project Cars in Progress => Topic started by: Steve on June 14, 2009, 07:17:13 PM

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 14, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
Work has begun.
This is an attempt to Unitize a 50 Chrysler Windsor with a 86 5th Ave frame. 
 
Here's the Plan.  I am going to try to shove a 318 with a 999 Trans on the back into the chassis.  I am also going to try to put the M Body Suspension package under the frame.  But I dunno now. . .   The rails are pretty funky and the wheels are in an odd spot.  It's almost like I will have to cut the frame off and attach the box frame to it.  When I look at the M Frame, there is allot of hardware in front of the wheels  and the mounts are flat.
 
This is going to take some thinking.  All I found needed for this front end is a tie rod end and a pitman arm bushing.  Everything else seems to be pretty solid.  The front end appeared to have been greased well.
 
I may have to stay with the car the way it is.
 
Thinking of this color with a white roof.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Reglered.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/5001.jpg)

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/5002.jpg) POLARACO2009-10-01 21:36:33
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 15, 2009, 03:09:16 AM
K.I.S.S.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 15, 2009, 05:51:56 AM
Kiss my
 
See what you started?
 
Yep  Sleep made me think of that this morning.  I think I'll just go for the drive train and repair the suspension
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Jessica on June 17, 2009, 02:10:44 AM
That color will look great on the car.
 
Now.. if you really want to hack up a frame.. boy do I have the car for you! Pffttt!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
I dunno about hacking the frame anymore. . .  I think I am just going to repair the steering and stuff something in there.  I have a 400 and trans I could stuff in there. . .   That may be a problem for the air conditioning then.  Gottahave my cool air so I can be cool (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 18, 2009, 05:02:15 AM
For a driveway project, I think you're biting off more than you can efficiently chew.  I know you've got the skill and knowledge, but doing major framework out in the driveway tends to make one take shortcuts and half-azzed altering.  Plus, you're not 25 anymore...........
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 18, 2009, 07:09:22 AM
Ahhhh Hahhhhhh  Way ahead of you.  I would never do something like that on the driveway.  Stuff like that would be done on the trailer which is flat and level. 

25?  Neither are you.  Does that stop you?
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 18, 2009, 07:11:06 AM
I'm not doing the frame thing anyway.
 
I have to decide what engine to put in it and go from there.  I have a nice 400 and trans, or I can go small block.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2009, 05:07:09 PM
what do you think?  I think it looks real good.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/5003.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on June 22, 2009, 05:35:47 PM
Resell red.Nothing wrong with that.
Mauve or a mid 60's blue is good too.
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 22, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
Not Resale red. . Rustoleum Burgundy.  LOL  My front door is the same color.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Cheap, good paint, period correct and I can shaker the car if I want.  It's getting clear over it anyway.  Boy. . .cheap paint job.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Tom Dawson on June 27, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
what ever works bossman, I think it works well on the car-a little wet sand-a little buff-should come out looking beautiful.
Tom
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on June 27, 2009, 07:06:53 PM
Just ribbing Steve on the resell red.
Whatever works,IMHO
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on June 27, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
Gotta get back into the car. . . .
 
I can get a front disc brake conversion for it. . .  
 
Still restling with the engine problem.  Not enough room to put even an LA in there.  I can't have it too high without messing up the drive line.  I night be able to mount the engine on an angle and swing the rear up to get the pitch right. . .   t's gonna suck whatever I do.  The alternative is to put a stock engine back in and build it up.  Might be fun too.  I can still go dual carb, I can get a cam for it, and electronic ignition will make it dance.  Too bad the trans is only a 2 speed.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 01, 2009, 06:15:21 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Gotta get back into the car. . . .
 
I can get a front disc brake conversion for it. . .  
 
 
\\6.  It's the only way to go!!!!!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: firedome on July 10, 2009, 11:26:18 AM
My sentiments exactly... then Turbo & Megasquirt!





Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on July 19, 2009, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: CBarge
Resell red.Nothing wrong with that.
Mauve or a mid 60's blue is good too.
 
Rustoleum Red.  Cheap.  Some cheap clear over the top and bingo. 
 
Anyway Lea, to continue our conversation. . .
 
It's too dark to take a picture and of coarse I had a right fender handy so I can't step back.   I hung a fender on the right side of the 5th to see where the wheel would line up.  The wheel is about 6" back on the fender.  Because of the front frame config on the 50, I'll have to butt the box frame from the 5th to the existing chassis of the 50.  Then I will have to extend the inner fenders to meet the firewall.  The inners on the 5th are about 3" lower than the 50 too.  So what I am thinking is. . . .   Mate the 50 inners to the 5th inners and use the 50 inners to extend the 5th inners to the firewall and then attach it to the fire wall, making it unitized.  That will definitely firm up the 50.  Since the body is bolted to the frame without bushings, I probably won't have enough flex to break anything from stress.  I'm figuring on fish plating Frame to frame, depending on where they fall.   Using the trailer as a jug is a good idea.  If I get into trouble and have to abandon it for a while, then it will be set in place.  Lord knows I have enough rigging here to strap that sucker down.
 
Better go get some more mig wire. . . .
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on July 23, 2009, 02:13:11 PM
Well it has begun
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/earclip.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/rearClip.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on July 23, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
Your 360 will be here Sunday.
CBarge2009-07-23 19:16:31
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on July 23, 2009, 04:25:32 PM
Check it out for me when you get it.  As long as the block/crank and pistons are good, I'll just freshen up the bottom and throw a cam in it.
 
Maybe you can take a couple and pop a head? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)  Drop the Pan ????   I hope that has a Pan that will fit in the M Chassis.  I hope to have my crane done by then.
 
BTW Lea. . .Both rear springs are broken at the front of the rear.  2nd leaf. 
 
Also. . while chopping the car apart, I found a service ticket, indicating the car had 115,2?? on it.  So much for 35,000 miles.  Another eGay screw Job.  Too bad I bought the car 2 years ago.
 
Lemme know on that 8 1/4 rear too.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 01, 2009, 03:59:23 PM
Well this is what I started with
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Start.jpg)
 
And this is what I have now.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Stripped_Chassis.jpg)
 
I did some measurements today.  I'll have to do some fancy cutting of the original chassis, but I can slip this in right next the original.  I'll have to make up about 1/2 an inch.  My thought is to use some pipe nipples and weld them into the two frames.  Then I can bolt through them.  That will hold everything in place.  The next step will be to fish plate all the way around the frame with some heavier gauge tin, like a 10 or 12 gauge and wled it all together.  I plan on making it high enough so I can weld the cross members to the existing floor.  The cross member extensions are about 1 1/2" to wide on the 5th frame.  But O can mate them to the 50's rockers.  So the floor will be unitized then.  The next step will be to extend the inner fenders by the needed 11" and weld them to the firewall.  The engine will be sitting forward with the whole bell exposed. 
 
The dash is the right size and will work  I may have to do a bit of magic with the defrosters.  But if I use the 5th's heater /AC assembly as planned, I will have to bulge the firewall on the 5o to get it in deep enough.  That will bring the firewall back out over the Bell.  At least I can leave room to work on it later since I am designing it.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 01, 2009, 04:17:31 PM
I was just thinking.  If I bulge the firewall for the heater, I will have a source for fresh air for the heater box.  I'll just pull it in from inside the right fender.  I'll have to make a splach shield for the wheel I guess.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 02, 2009, 02:32:15 AM
Holy %^$# !!! 
Man, that's some serious fabrication going on there.
You are a far, FAR, braver man than I, Magee...
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on August 02, 2009, 05:35:35 AM
Your 360 has arrived.Have not opened it up yet.Not saure if it turns over.
1979 Cordoba engine 2 bbl intake.
As soon as I get my enhanced licence I will be crossing the border I want in on the action.LOL 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 02, 2009, 10:58:28 AM
Don't forget my 8 1/4
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 21, 2009, 04:22:20 AM
Well it seems I made a criticle error.  I should have left the original firewall in place.  So I am reattaching it .  Lemme tell ya. . .that's not fun.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 21, 2009, 04:32:57 AM
Do you have a clue on what you're doing or are you just winging it? (http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/whistling.gif)

Commando12009-08-21 09:45:15
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 21, 2009, 07:40:40 AM
Actually. . .I changed the plan.  But the fire wall will look better, in the engine compartment, when I am done.
 
It was critical because on a second look, I would have to fabricate more.  This way I will have the stock holes and alignment.  All I'll have to do after that is cust out the original firewall and attach this one. 
 
Gonna have crush chambers and everything.  Not doing the 5 MPH bumpers though
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 22, 2009, 12:17:35 PM
Maybe this will explain it better

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Firewall1.jpg)


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Firewall2.jpg)

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Firewall3.jpg)

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Firewall4.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on August 22, 2009, 03:57:10 PM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/other%20stuff/BargeonaBudget168.jpg)
Here are the pics Steve asked for for comparison.

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 22, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
Big difference Huh?
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 23, 2009, 04:30:12 AM
This will get finished when (http://www.kitchenroundtable.com/i/smiley/hog.gif) .
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stitcherbob on August 23, 2009, 07:05:57 AM

Quote from: Commando1
This will get finished when (http://www.kitchenroundtable.com/i/smiley/hog.gif) .


Why not? Swine Flew..........

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/10/10_4_4v.gif)

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2009, 03:04:45 PM
Well. . .now the fun starts.  I have cut out the cross member and lift the body.  Then I am going to slice the frame and slip the front section on the top of the existing frame..  Lotsa fabrication goin gon here.  The frame will be the easy part.  It's getting the dash in the right place that may be a problem.  I may end up using the original dash.  Not sure yet.  Sure wish I had a set od skilled hands here to help. . . . Hint Hint Hint
 
Has to go back further yet
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame1.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame2.jpg)
 
 
This is under the existing rails.  But it lines up perfectly with the 50 frame.  Will set right in
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame3.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame4.jpg)
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame5.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Tom Dawson on August 28, 2009, 09:57:53 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif) then you can (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif) on the 67 Vert 440 4 speed
Looks good blossman
Tom
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 28, 2009, 10:27:38 AM
The kit from Alterkation is starting to look a lot better now, doesn't it....  (http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/whistling.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2009, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: Commando1
The kit from Alterkation is starting to look a lot better now, doesn't it....  (http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/whistling.gif)
 
Nope!
 
POLARACO2009-08-28 16:49:08
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on August 28, 2009, 01:21:06 PM
It was an idea that I joked around with Steve during one of our phone chats.
I encouraged him that it can be done.
People used the bent bar F/M/J K-frame in hotrods before.
But he sure has taken it to a level I never would have dreamed of.
Wait until he gets the dash installed.
Modern ride and conviences in an old body....Kewl.
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stitcherbob on August 28, 2009, 04:50:22 PM
http://www.clubfte.com/users/jniolon/volareclip/volare.html (http://www.clubfte.com/users/jniolon/volareclip/volare.html)

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 28, 2009, 05:31:02 PM
Believe me, Steve.  I'm rooting fer ya!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 28, 2009, 05:31:35 PM
So......
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Is it done yet? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
Good article Bob. . .I read that already. 
 
However, his frame is straight.  Mine doesn't have enough room in it to even squeeze a V8 in it.  Look at the earlier pictures of the old frame.  If mine were straight, I would have done the exact same thing he did.  It curves in then up quite a bit.  His is dead straight.
 
I would not be able to put any steering box in it.  Or I would have to have the engine setting so high, the center of gravity would be outrageously high.  I needed 28" between the rails and this frame had 21".
 
When this is done, it will be tight and straight.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on August 31, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
Well Moving forward. . .I miscalculated the front.  See the last Pic.  But it is salvageable.  Just more fabricating. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Anyway. . .the Frame is cut and as of tonight is tacked in.  It was too dark to take a pic or two, but there is nothing to see until I start installing the braces.
 
Here it is with the rough cuts done.  Pretty had to work on the way it is.  But it will get easier now because I can get under the car.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame6.jpg)
 

(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame7.jpg)
 


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 01, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
Well!  You still want me to go with that Frame you suggested Stan?  That's cheating! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
So far, I have the left side able to support it's own weight now.  But I still have a way to go.  Tomorrow I will tackle the right side, I have all the pieces cut so it's a matter of welding.  The key to the strength of the chassis itself is the boxing in of the frames as I joined them.
 
You can see here what I did.  I mayed the end of the 50 frame to the 86 frame by extending it and wedged it so the 4" frame mated to the 2" frame.  The biggest key was the forward body mount.  As you can see in the bottom picture, I am starting to get the sheet metal to fit..  I have to move the rad support back a bit. . . But it is doable.
 
By Monday night, I expect to have it down on it's own 4 wheels.  Then I will mate the dash and the brakes and so on.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame9.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame10.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame11.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 01, 2009, 05:49:33 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame11.jpg)
Looks like the car getting a cleft palate surgery..
I can shhhee the light Schteeve! She looooks schgoodshh.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Tom Dawson on September 01, 2009, 07:09:23 PM
Quote from: CBarge
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Frame11.jpg)
Looks like the car getting a cleft palate surgery..

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Thanks for the much need laugh Leaburn
 
Tom
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 02, 2009, 05:27:28 AM
Steve, it's getting out of hand....
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/32/borzoi_prototype_joystick_car_chassis_frame.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 02, 2009, 06:55:17 AM
No it's not. . .It's actually quite simple
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 03, 2009, 06:01:31 PM
Got the other side welded up yesterday. . .Really nothing to picture. 

I took my final measurements and it looks like I'm within 1/16 for squarness and setting in the frame.
 
No work today, but tomorrow I am going to finish the frame and do the inner fenders to get it all tied together.  Right now, the chassis will support it's own weight without dropping.  It bows quite a bit if I try to lift the car via the cross member in the front.  But once I have the inners attached to the body, that will not be an issue. 
 
I am going to make cardboard templates and use the original inners.  I'll attach then to the 86 inners and connect it all to the firewall.  The next thing will be to construct a new floor  Once the floor is tied to the frame, she'll be ready to put down.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 05, 2009, 04:19:22 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/D/Frame12.jpg)
 
DOWN ON THE GROUND.  NO CREAKS, NO POPS AND I LITERALLY DROPPED IT ON IT'S WHEELS!
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/D/Frame13.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Johnny D. on September 06, 2009, 01:01:41 PM
this is the first time in a while i've been really really impressed
good job steve.


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 06, 2009, 03:43:03 PM
Be impressed when it goes down the raod correctly
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Tom Dawson on September 06, 2009, 05:54:23 PM
I'm impressed Steve-and your not using a frame machine to make sure it is straight.
Tom
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 07, 2009, 06:31:32 AM
And it's within a 1/16th too.  It's measuring out level
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 07, 2009, 06:34:11 AM
DOWN ON THE GROUND.  NO CREAKS, NO POPS AND I LITERALLY DROPPED IT ON IT'S WHEELS!

Why ya gotta be so rough!!!????
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 07, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
So I can still slap you around
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 07, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
OK  Here we go.  Today I worked on the fender mounting.  The left inner is tied into the body and the car get stiffer and stiffer every day.
 
This isn't pretty now, but when done, and in one color, it will look allot better.  I'll hide this side with an inner fender anyway.  The Battery is going behind the wheel on this tide.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame16.jpg)
 

(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame15.jpg)
 


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 07, 2009, 07:45:38 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame17.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 08, 2009, 01:02:04 AM
Damn, Steve.  You are going to make me eat my words....
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 08, 2009, 04:19:06 AM
want some Catsup?
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: firedome on September 09, 2009, 05:17:02 AM
Nice work Steve - it's a lot more ambitious that what I'd want to
undertake!!  Guess I'm getting lazier as I get older... hmmm...
better get the '58 body done before I poop out altogether...

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Snotty on September 09, 2009, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
want some Catsup?
 
Ketchup - KETCHUP!  Catsup is something that produces kittens!  That will not go on my food!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 09, 2009, 11:14:45 AM
Catsup goes on bologna sandwiches.
Ketchp goes on baloney sandwiches
 
I never did figure out which one goes  on franks and which one on hotdogs.
 
And who the  ^&%$  eats tuna salad sandwiches, anyway?  I don't.  I eat tuna FISH snadwiches.
 
Commando12009-09-09 16:21:26
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 09, 2009, 01:48:18 PM
Quote from: Commando1
Catsup goes on bologna sandwiches.
Ketchp goes on baloney sandwiches
 
I never did figure out which one goes  on franks and which one on hotdogs.
 
And who the  ^&%$  eats tuna salad sandwiches, anyway?  I don't.  I eat tuna FISH snadwiches.
 
 
You might be dead by then (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stitcherbob on September 09, 2009, 05:06:27 PM



Originally posted by Commando1

Catsup goes on bologna sandwiches.
Ketchp goes on baloney sandwiches


 You say po-tah-toe, I say potato

You say to-mah-toe, I say F*** you.......


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

stitcherbob2009-09-10 02:57:26
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Snotty on September 10, 2009, 10:35:25 AM
Quote from: Commando1
And who the  ^&%$  eats tuna salad sandwiches, anyway?  I don't.  I eat tuna FISH snadwiches.
 
 
Since the women of my church make that a lot, I'll explain the difference.
 
Tuna Salad is served on a bed of lettuce/greens and there's no bread in sight.
 
When put on bread it become the latter.
 
Clear?
 
Now, Bobby, if you're quoting someone or thing it fell flat on me. Therefore, I agree with another comment: ???????
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 10, 2009, 11:37:03 AM
The food consuming expert has spoken. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  But it isn't Shrimp
 
Yeah Snotty. . .I have no Idea where Bobby is coming from.  It doesn't have any relevance.  But for that matter neither does Tuna. . .
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stitcherbob on September 10, 2009, 12:12:28 PM
it was a comedy line about snobbery vs regular talk

Catsup
ketchup

Bolongna
baloney


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 10, 2009, 12:20:43 PM
What ever  Alittle Bob Humor I see
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 13, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
Steve drove up into Canuckville to fetch a motor for free.
He spent the weekend and we had fun hanging out playing with engines.
1979 360 motor .
We opened it up before loading it on the truck.
Someone was in there before and had no carbon build up.
One cylinder had rain water in it,but at least the engine turned over and can be freshened up.
CBarge2009-09-13 21:11:54
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 13, 2009, 04:10:33 PM
Steve is used to tight spaces..this was a cakewalk compared to his own driveway..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/Barge%20On%20A%20Budget/BargeonaBudget208.jpg)
My driveway is like going up the wrong way of a funnel-then it widens out to a 20X40 garage.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 13, 2009, 05:46:13 PM
While in Canada,Steve enjoyed a local brew..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)
http://www.steamwhistle.ca/ourbeer/ourbeer2.php (http://www.steamwhistle.ca/ourbeer/ourbeer2.php)
Plus the obilgatory morning requirement for coffee when in Canada,eh?
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/68Cbarge/timsplash_left1.jpg)
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Snotty on September 14, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
Is that Steve?  It looks like Carroll O'Connor!
 
YUK YUK YUK!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Ken on September 14, 2009, 07:57:30 PM

Quote from: Snotty
Is that Steve?  It looks like Carroll O'Connor!
 

You meathead! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)

Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2009, 05:29:40 AM
Quote from: Snotty
Is that Steve?  It looks like Carroll O'Connor!
 

Yeah and I am still wearing a blue work shirt.  But I did wear other colors.  Ask Lea.  LOL
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 17, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
OK  I finally got a stretch of time to work on the beast.  I'm beat!!!
 
Eat your heart out Stan
 
I decided to get creative with fabricating on the right fender well and mounting for the fender.  This design is much stronger and cleaner than the other side.  So I will duplicate that on the left when I get time.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame18.jpg)
 

(http://www.moparfins.com/d/frame19.jpg)
 
And here is the good part.  I busted my butt to get that in there in one piece.  Reality is the engine will have to be disassembled in the car to remove it.  The head will have to come off.
 

(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50engine1.jpg)
 

(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50engine2.jpg)
 


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 17, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
I've also decided to change the color to Rustoleum Royal Blue. 
 


Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: AJ on September 17, 2009, 05:54:19 PM
LOOKING GOOD, STEVE! Cudos on the Royal Blue - same color I was looking at for my Yeep.
 
I wanna take a close look at everything when I'm down there tomorrow.
 
I straighted the body on the frame today - it was off by a full inch in the back ROFLOL.  That's what I get for rushing the YJ body on a CJ frame a couple years ago.  Finally got around to fixing it.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Dan Cluley on September 17, 2009, 07:43:02 PM
I like that blue.  (We've used it on shutters/door at my Mom's house for 25 years now)
 
Solid blue, or different color roof?
 
My vote would be white or the light blue I used on the Dart on the roof.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 18, 2009, 05:06:35 AM
My truck will be back today.  .I'll get those wiper parts out
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 18, 2009, 02:04:31 PM
Dash is almost out.  Difficult little bugger
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 19, 2009, 05:30:39 AM
BOO!!! NO BLUE!!!! RED RULES!!!!!!
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 06:26:38 AM
Sorry Ar   I have a red car.  No Blue ones.  Besides, the blue will make more sense with the blue interior and white roof
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 19, 2009, 10:03:34 AM
Let us not forget that Steve is using only the absolute best in automotive colors and is limitted to this fine palette:  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
(http://i35.tinypic.com/10h65o1.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 01:16:09 PM
Shaaaadappppp
 
It's cheap
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
I have a problem with the dash, but I think I can do something cool with it.  It came in lower than I thought so I need to make a filler.  The defroster on the factory dash is way back.  The dash set further back than I thought too. 
 
Raising the brake mech will cause all sorts of new problems too.  So I think I will just make a filler and vent the defroster back through the molding.  I guess I can get rid of a bunch of steel from the dash too.  That will make room for me to put in wiper motors.
 
And Stan!  I toad ya.  EAT YER HEART OUT! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Tomorrow I will finish up some welding details I have to tend too and put the column in.  I think that will be it for this one this year.
 
And a message to the booger. . .   Now you know why there is a second firewall.  When that's all closed up, it will look real cool.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50dash1.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50dash2.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50heater1.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50heater2.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 19, 2009, 02:53:48 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif)WHOA!
That is awesome!
Yep.I think is filler between the firewalls is in order.Maybe some louvers for the HVAC to take in fresh air.
Will the defrost vents match up with the windshield??
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 05:19:21 PM
Oh Hell No Lea.  The defrost vents ended up about 4" under the cowl.  Ad as you see, it came in about 2 1/2" lower than it figured.  But they are open enough that I can extend the ducts to the molding I showed around the windshield.  I was thinking of notching the molding and bringing them up right at the bottom of the shield.
 
Bob said he'd rather see the 50 dash in there, and I kind of agree.  However, it was going to be quite a feat to do that.  It also wouldn't accomodate the heater assembly.  Just to put heat and A/C in the car was going to be 1500 bucks. . .   This is costing me practically nothing.  I even have new hoses for the A/C.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 05:40:30 PM
BTW Lea
 
Where's yer head at?  There's three problems with sucking the fresh air in from the engine compartment.  1. is noise.  2. Possible carbon Monoxide.  3.  That air will be hot.
 
I am not sure where I will get the fresh air from yet.  I see myself making a duct and going out to the fender well.  I can make a filter for it.  Worst case then is maybe brake oder.
 
With all the room I have under the fender, I can go all the way up to the front to get air too.  Lots of options there yet.
 
If I louver anything, it will be the sides of the hood to let the heat out.
 
POLARACO2009-09-19 22:42:24
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 19, 2009, 06:28:33 PM
If you can,how about routing fresh air from the 50 vent below t he windshield? and have the duct work between the firewalls?
Just a brain PPfft
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 19, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
I have been exploring that idea, but I need to come up with a vacuum pot to force it open.  And then I have a water drainage problem to contend with.  Not to mention, rust.  I have to make sure that sucker is really painted well inside.
 
Don't think I hadn't thought about it
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 20, 2009, 04:38:22 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)


 
I knew it.  I just knew it was gonna turn into a Pandora's Box....
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 20, 2009, 06:45:00 AM
Stan,it is just sand in th vasoline..
I am confident Steve cna figure out a solution
 
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 20, 2009, 07:02:52 AM
You were right.  I expected something would come up.  It's not as bad as it sounds Stan. . .   I'll git it (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 20, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
Steering column is in. . . Finished the fish plating on the frame from underneith and started to grind off all that bad welding I did.
 
I switched to .023 and everything is going much easier.
 
Dropped the Rad in from the 86.  There is NO WAY it will fit.  I need something 27" X 17".  If you look at the hood shot, there is a trap door in the front.  Cool place to hide the rad cap.
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 20, 2009, 05:34:17 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
 

How about a modern day pressurized coolant reservoir with a rad cap??? That way you do not have to worry about a rad cap on  the rad itself.One from a 1986 to 2002 Jeep Cherokee should work--for example.
Rad can be custom built to fit but can be $$$$
CBarge2009-09-20 22:36:55
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 20, 2009, 06:01:28 PM
I saw one
http://www.alumrad.com/f342aa.htm (http://www.alumrad.com/f342aa.htm)
 
This will fit the ticket.  However, I would rather do like you said.  Find a production model rad.  I need a catalog.  These websites suck.  Have to pick a year and make.  I also have to try to be careful because this is going to be a performance 360 and I have limited room for the fan.  But the Rad, condensor and fan will all fit if I can find the right rad.  Otherwise, the rad will be under the car.  That will be interesting
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 21, 2009, 03:12:01 AM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/vqhehj.jpg)
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Stitcherbob on September 21, 2009, 07:10:50 AM

instead of the Kennedy Eternal Flame it could have 2 eternal steam jets spraying on each side(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)











stitcherbob2009-09-21 12:11:20
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on September 21, 2009, 07:26:04 AM
Actually, I thought about putting a stack on it and have it belch steam. . .   But that was before I came up with the present plan
Title: 5/50 Put into hybernation
Post by: Steve on October 01, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
Well. . it's been put to bed for the winter.  I am going to bring the VOAB down for the winter and work on it. 
 
But before I tucked 550 in, I did this
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50firewall.jpg)
 
I'll have to be a bit creative but I'll figure out something for the corner.  Here is the air intake for  the heater, burried.  I am going to make a duct and come out of the firewall to the fender well.  There is allot of room, so I can put a filter under the fender.  Planning on making inner fenders too.  They'll have trap doors so I can get to whatever I stuff in there.  Not to mwntion, it will hide some sins in that corner. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/d/50firewall2.jpg)