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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 12, 2009, 08:06:54 AM
It's just about the summer, and Jerry and I finally did some more work on the Grem.  We added a piece of turned aluminum on the glove box to match that which was done by my brother-in-law a year ago.  We also had an A Body driveshaft shortened and balanced, so the drive-line is not completely attached. 
 
Today, Big John Hutchings is supposed to come by and help us wire the motor bay.
 
Anyway, I wanted to show you the result of the work jerry and I did last Friday.  A buddy has an AMC AM-FM factory radio.  We are going to buy it form him and fill in the hole.  We also have a carpet kit to install.  There's still plenty more to do, but it;s coming along....
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/1a.JPG)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/2a.JPG)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/6.JPG)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/5.JPG)

POLARACO2014-04-17 01:46:46
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Ron on June 12, 2009, 12:31:24 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) Looking good
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on June 12, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Nice Snottster!!! I like the gagues!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Mike on June 12, 2009, 08:01:33 PM
Good Stuff Brother Scott!! Can't wait till we get our first ================ pictures!

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 18, 2009, 11:35:51 AM
Like the engine turned 'loominum with those gauges!





Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 19, 2009, 06:15:34 AM
Thanks!  It was my Brother-in-law's idea.  He had two different sheets of it and let Jerry choose the one he liked.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 20, 2009, 02:14:30 PM
Those indicator needles have a cool turn of the century look like
something off of an old steam locomotive... I'm restoring an old
aluminum cabin cruiser, they'd look really swell on it - who made them?

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on June 20, 2009, 10:42:24 PM
They look a bit like these:

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_grou.asp?Series=Vintage_GSLF (http://www.egauges.com/vdo_grou.asp?Series=Vintage_GSLF)


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 22, 2009, 09:01:31 AM
They are Stewart Warner guages.  I bought them as a packaged set:
 
Snotty2009-06-22 14:01:45
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 12, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
Jerry and I worked on the car today  - Feb. 12 - to get it ready to (hopefully) fire tomorrow.  here are the latrest pictures of the motor, taken today.


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/Wiring_1.JPG)
 
I love that shot!  The colors are great!
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/wiring_2.JPG)
 
Front view.  I'll let you know if it runs!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on February 13, 2010, 03:01:56 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/wiring_2.JPG)    (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 13, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
It's running!  I shot a video with my digital camera of the first start.  If I can get it on You Tube I'll post a link.  I'll tell you, even with Horneys, this car is LOUD!!!
 
Final picture after it ran:(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/wiring_3.JPG)
 
Compare with the one above.  Those triple row pulleys are going as soon as I can find some single row AMC pulleys to replace them with.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/wiring_4.JPG)
It bacame a group project!  Linda Parlier. Lloyd Hines, me filling the radiator, Chris 'the Doctor" Fredriksen, and Mike Webber.  All helped!  So did Jerry, but he was taking this picture.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/wiring_5.JPG)
 
Even Frances made an apperance! 
 
We started at 9 a.m. and we think it was 4:30 when it was finally ready to fire.   I had to exchange a few items, and we did have some "gremlins" pop up, but it fired and ran great!  It's not ready for the road yet, but the major steps are now behind us.  Praise be to God!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on February 13, 2010, 07:19:04 PM
Is that a food stain on your shirt?
 
So?  What happened????  You're leaving us in suspense????(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 14, 2010, 11:17:12 AM
Ha!  No, it's old grease.  Although I always wash them, I usually wear the same clothes whenever I work on a car.  Once the shirt (1 of 2) or the pants wear out I will replace it.  Until then, it's all the old stains! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)



 
Ok, here is the link for the first firing of the Grem.  Once there, you can see the links for two more videos, but only this one is of the motor running.
 
I hope you enjoy; we did!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFqrrHaamE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFqrrHaamE)
 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Guests on February 15, 2010, 08:51:02 PM
That's one smokin' Gremlin...sounds good!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 15, 2010, 09:37:42 PM

Quote from: dana44
That's one smokin' Gremlin...sounds good!

yeah, Snotty's had a lot of work in it to de-tune it a little to keep it stable.....

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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on February 16, 2010, 03:27:11 AM
Gremlins are cool... always wanted one. Thats a pretty engine! I like
the 258 6 banger too, it's pretty torquey and go forever. 

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 16, 2010, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: dana44
That's one smokin' Gremlin...sounds good!

HA HA!  And literally so!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 16, 2010, 08:41:53 AM
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Can you beleive this guy LOST the competition???
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 16, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
Quote from: firedome
Gremlins are cool... always wanted one. Thats a pretty engine! I like the 258 6 banger too, it's pretty torquey and go forever. 





 
The car was originally that motor, but it was shot and so was the transmission.  I offered the motor on GremlinX.com for free with no takers.  One day in a conversation with the man that did the machine work on the 401 he mentioned he liked building the 258 for Jeeps.  Guess who has it now?  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on February 16, 2010, 09:49:23 AM

Quote from: Snotty
 


Gee Ya think?

BTW Snotty. . .  "Beleive" is spelled BelIEve.  I before E except after C.  In most cases.

Touche'


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jessica on February 16, 2010, 10:16:01 AM
My hubby loves this thread. Thanks a lot. Now he wants one. :P
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 16, 2010, 08:19:23 PM

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Ah ha!  You are correct.  However, the link of the Grem doing a wheelie was from a Wheelie Competition! 
 
Back at you big boy!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 16, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: JSands
My hubby loves this thread. Thanks a lot. Now he wants one. :P



 
Tell him to get one while they're still cheap!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 26, 2010, 05:23:52 PM
Some frustration today.  Jerry and I bought an electric fan and shroud.  Had to have an inch cut off the side of the shroud to fit the radiator.  All was well.  But, when we attached the fan to the shround...it hit the water pump! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)




 
Before that I was working on the seats to raise them.  My very dull drill bits would not cut through the C Channel we bought.  A friend came over and said he would sharpen them for me.  He came back with four from his set and said he would be back.  His were dull and it's 7:15 now - he has not returned!
 
All was not lost.  Jerry installed some better-condition tail light assmeblies we had.  They look great and work well.  I realized we had not checked to see if the brake lights work - I swapped the prop-valve when I converted the car to disks.  We have good parking and brake lights on both sides!
 
Finally, I picked up the throttle bracket that I had cut and welded with a 1.25" longer reach.  Fits and works perfectly!  We have full throttle travel too!
 
My Buddy Lloyd Hinds called and asked how things were going.  When I told him I was down about the fan and the seats, he said he'd come over tomorrow with a good set of bits.  We'll get the seats in right tomorrow!
 
So, some depressing things, but some good happenings and friends too!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 26, 2010, 07:09:32 PM
Why do the seats need raising Snotts? Aren't they the stockers?

On the water pump.....does AMC have long and short snout water pumps for A/C vs no A/C? Shorty might fit yer fan better.....


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2010, 07:56:05 PM
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They were before Snotty sat in them (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 27, 2010, 08:06:14 AM
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They were before Snotty sat in them (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)[/QUOTE]


 
Cute!
 
Bob, the seats in the car were of two different types, one a Gremlin the other ????  We wanted to go with white seats with the green interior and get some after-market seats.  I do believe Jesus will retuirn first than to find white!  Jerry changed his mind and decided to go black on green.  It struck me one day that Dakota seats would it the bill well.  So we got a set, but after swapping the AMC brackets onto them they sit too low.  Jerry can't see over the dash and they rub the trans tunnel.  Big Chris suggested getting C Channel and raising them.  That's what we're doing right now.
 
As for the pump, I will check into what you're suggesting.  If that is the case it would be great! 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 27, 2010, 08:42:06 AM
Good work,Snotty.
Don't forget to install the required 70's side pipes and Dingo balls around the top of the windows.LOL!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 27, 2010, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: CBarge
Good work,Snotty.

HA!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  No, we'll do without those!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 27, 2010, 06:01:16 PM
Ok, things went very well today!  When Lloyd arrived he took one look at the radiator and suggested moving it to the grill-side of the side rails instead of the motor side.  I told him what I was planing on doing by getting a trational fan and extension shaft.  He said, "Hey, you've spent enough money already; use what you have and let's make it work."  Great words!  It took some cutting of the lower interior valance, but it mounted well.  When we replaced the normal fan studs with bolts it gave us a half-inch of clearance!  


 
Then, I worked to mount the seats - however, after dulling three bits I got one in.  That steel is TOUGH!
 
Jerry worked painting vatrious motor piecves and helping Lloyd with the radiator.
 
We got it all mounted when Lloyd disclosed that he and I share a common fear of electricity!  We called Chris "the Doctor" and asked if he could come over and play.
 
The end result was a wired fan and a 407 AMC running at 2 grand for a total of 20 minutes to set the cam!  It's cool boys, I must say!  The motor ran hot while it still had captive air, and I discovered an oil leak.  The leak turned out to be two bolts on the bottom of the pan that were too long.  I think I had intended to replace them but after three years I sort of forgot!
 
I'll post pictures, and Jerry will add new video through You TRube once I download today's shots.
 
More to come, but we are happy here!
 
Oh, need to replace the ignition switch and electrical - we're getting nothing from the key except 12 volt to start the car.  No signals, no electric gauges, no starter - have to use a remote.  We are not surprised as the car was in a field and the dash had been ripped out.  Something had to be wrong!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
More soon.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on February 27, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
It's an AMC.  Wired by Lucus (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on February 28, 2010, 04:56:03 PM

Here are the latrest video links.  Jerry posted 2 new ones.  Once you link to one tou can see all 5.  Enjoy!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkh3a2L9aY
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on March 22, 2010, 01:23:31 PM
We got the electrical worked out!  Whoo-hoo! 
 
We replaced the ignition module, the broken signal light switch and cancelling cam, and the key tumbler.  Chris also discovered theat the rod to the switch was bent so he straigtened that out too. 
 
When Jerry put the steering column back in the ignition still did not work.  So Chris did some electrical tracing.  We found a "hot" wire for the starter that we missed.  So the starter now works with the key - yea!
 
Then, he traced the harness to see why the guages and signal lights didn't work.  It's amazing what two, good 20 amp fuses will do to a car!  I had checked them all; they looked OK, but two were bad after all.  Once the new fuses were put in all worked well except the signal lights.
 
That turned out to be a bad socket on the driver's side front signal light.  I put one of the original light sockets back in and all worked great.
 
So, everything works!  Hooray!  Then it was time to adjust the clutch and drive the car for the first time.  It's been 4 years!!!
 
Wrong clutch!!!
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
Did I bother to think that the company that sold me the wrong Pilot Bushing, Throw-out, and Clutch Alignment Tool might have also sold me the wrong clutch?  NNNNNNNNoooooooo!
 
I feel like an idiot!  We're pulling the transmission this Friday.
 
Stay tuned....
 
 
 
Snotty2010-03-23 15:43:22
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on March 22, 2010, 04:17:10 PM
Sounds like you have similar luck to mine when it comes to clutches! Oh well, it will all be worth it soon! Then you will have to find a new project! Good luck with your Gremlin!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
After speaking with Snotty, I feel it's the fork.  He went to a 8" bell from a 6", but used the 6" clutch fork
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on March 23, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
I checked APD last night Setve, and they list a single fork for "All" applications, '71-'78.  Perhaps the other thought may be correct - I put the throwout in backwards.  I still say that's impossible but we'll see.

I'll keep you all informed.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on March 26, 2010, 08:58:49 PM
Found the problem, and am glad to say I had installed everything correctly!
 
The clutch disk was being held in place by the bolts and washers from the Pressure Plate!  Yep, you read that right!  We went to get a new one thinking the plate we had was too small, but the new one was identical!  It would have locked down too.  So, we used header bolts instead and they worked.  The clutch locked and unlocked through the pedal.
 
However, the clutched slipped like an auto trans without any fluid!  We are thinking that we bent the ears by tightening the clutch rod down all the way and applying the pedal.  Something moved when we hit the pedal, but the clutch did not work. 
 
We are doing it again next Saturday with a new clutch and new throw-out.  The latter was making quite a bit of noise once the clutch ingaged.
 
On the good side of the news, the brakes, rear, and transmission all work well, and so does the steering.  It is quite light for manual.  In the past four years I have swapped the front drums for disks, rebuilt the entire front suspension and added a sway bar, changed the transmission from 3-speed to 4-speed, and installed a Mopar 8.75 A Body rear.  We also swapped the rear brakes and axles for fully new stuff.
 
That's why I was gladdened at the same time I was saddened by the clutch slipping.  I'll take 4 steps forward and one back!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 06, 2010, 09:53:47 AM
Although not yet fixed we found the problem.


 
In a nutshell, here it is:  1968 AMC T-10 transmisison, AMC 401 (from '77 Jeep Wagoneer) with '71-newer bell housing.
 
There it is!
 
Those that know AMC will see the problem.  When AMC started using Mopar transmissions in '71 they switched the bolt pattern on their motors to match the Mopar pattern.  The bell for a T-10 after '71 is slightly shorter than the bell used up through '70, and called for a shorter throwout bearing.  However, sicne I am using a T-10 from '68 that shorter throwout won't fit over the bearing housing.  So, we got a TO for a '68 - it's too long and bottoms on the housing, thus not allowing the pressure plate to fully release.
 
We tried using a Chevy TO, but it was too short - so much the fork would not move because it hit the TO.
 
We ended last Saturday with the thought of lathing down the bearing shaft in order to use the shorter AMC TO.  But Chris did not like this idea, even though it was his. 
 
On Sunday he hit the internet and discovered....
 
...that AMC V-8s up through 1970 used a 10.5" clutch.  From '71 they used an 11" clutch - the one I have.  For Chris this was a "BINGO" moment!  I am now waiting on a '69, AMC specific 10.5" clutch to get here from Arizona.  It's supposed to arrive tomorrow.
 
It all goes well we will have it in on Wednesday or Thursday evening, in time to take the car to its first show on Saturday.
 
I'll keep you informed....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 06, 2010, 10:47:37 AM
That is very good.  Now you make in and out with much fun.  Well, not as much fun as my sister, but is good anyway...
 
Commando12010-04-06 15:49:58
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on April 06, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
Excellent to hear you figured out how to fix your issue! Cool project! If all goes well it sounds like you will be able to drive it this spring and summer.
 
One of my friends that I grew up with had a hopped up Gremlin. His step father helped him build it after his dad passed away. It was a built up 360 with a 3 speed manual, 8 3/4" dodge posi with traction bars. That little car was scary quick! I am sure yours will be even quicker with your modifyed 401 4 speed combination. What rear gears are you running in your machine? I checked out your videos a few days ago. I love the sound of a fresh hot rod engine!
 
Now I need an adrenaline fix...I think I am going to go for a rip in one of my rods now that it is spring!
 
Are you planing on taking it to a 1/4 mile track for testing? Good luck with your project!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 06, 2010, 11:45:12 AM
Quote from: Commando1
That is very good.  Now you make in and out with much fun.  Well, not as much fun as my sister, but is good anyway...
 
 
You know this guy was the voice of the "King" in the Madagascar movies?  I thought it was Robin Williams. 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 06, 2010, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: Rockwerx
Excellent to hear you figured out how to fix your issue! Cool project! If all goes well it sounds like you will be able to drive it this spring and summer.
 
Yes!  Hoping that we would be driving it this poast weekwedn I insured and registered it.  (Actually, changed the "non-op" status.)
 
   
Quote from: Rockwerx
One of my friends that I grew up with had a hopped up Gremlin. His step father helped him build it after his dad passed away. It was a built up 360 with a 3 speed manual, 8 3/4" dodge posi with traction bars. That little car was scary quick! I am sure yours will be even quicker with your modifyed 401 4 speed combination. What rear gears are you running in your machine? I checked out your videos a few days ago. I love the sound of a fresh hot rod engine!
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  I must admit, I've watched them many times myself!  There are a few more but Jerry has not posted them to You Tube.
 
We are using a Mopar 8.75 from an A Body; it has a 3.25 limited slip.  (Can't use that Chevy word that you used.)  The 401 is .030 over with 9.5:1 pistons, Isky cam, Eddy 750 cfm carb with Eddy Performer intake, and Hedman "Hedders" currently hooked up to a set of Purple Horneys.  The machine work was done by reynolds Machine of Bakwersfield, and was balanced.  Jerry and I did the assembly.
 
 
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Yes, we do want to take it to a Test and Tune at Famoso, but it was buitl to be Jerry's driver, that's why I put in the 3.23s.  However, I have an extra third member with an open 3.55 in it.  Jerry is going to have Big Chris build that case into a limited slip and install it - once he comes back from his summer working at Redwood Christian PArk.  That will be his dime!
 
We sure hope it all comes together this week.  We did drive it in my cul-du-sac, but witt the slipping clutch it was no "fun" at all!  We'll let you know, and hopefully have a new video!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 08, 2010, 08:35:36 AM
Put the new, and correct '68-9 clutch kit in it and...
 
...same problem!  It still slips like it's a bad clutch!  We are dumbfounded. 
 
We learned this - two clutches, same problem - must not be the clutch.
 
More as we learn it....  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 08, 2010, 08:44:10 AM
The flywheel is slipping. . . LOL
 
OK can you view the action of the clutch from the bottom?  I am not familiar with the AMC bells
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 08, 2010, 04:35:04 PM
No.  It would be great if you could like on a Mopar.  The only thing you can do is remove the fork boot and look at the throw-out.  It is certainly clearing the pressure plate and has room to move before the bearing housing.  Chris thought that was the problem when using the 11" clutch kit.  The fact that we put in a 10.5" kit and the problme persists is what is totally throwing us.
 
That and the sound!  There's a howling sound that happens when the gas is applied.  If I just take my foot off the clutch it's not there, but as soon as you apply power - whooooooo.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
 
I asked Chris if there's a possibility the driveshaft is too long.  That would account for the sound, but not the slipping.  He's not replied yet.
 
He feels bad; he shouldn't.  The car would not be running now if not for him, and he didn't buy the parts or put them togehter - I did.  I just wish we could learn the mystery.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 08, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Drive shaft wouldn't do that unless it was pushing on the trans.  The tail shaft should have about 1 1/2" of travel to bottom.
 
That says the throwout bearing is still engaged partially.  If you are just resting your foot on the pedal, it's too tight.  If it's slipping, that means the bearing is still not disengaging completely.
 
When you attached the clutch rod to the fork, was it really hard to get in?  Without the rod, is the clutch fork sloppy a bit? 
 
Maybe it's the adjustment rod is too long.  Back it off and see what happens.
 
POLARACO2010-04-08 21:54:33
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 09, 2010, 09:39:07 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Drive shaft wouldn't do that unless it was pushing on the trans.  The tail shaft should have about 1 1/2" of travel to bottom.
 
 
Agreed, except I had the shaft custom built from an A Body shaft.  I am thinking that it is too long, but there is an inch of slip join end visable, so I'm thinking it's correct. 
 
Quote from: POLARACO
That says the throwout bearing is still engaged partially.  If you are just resting your foot on the pedal, it's too tight.  If it's slipping, that means the bearing is still not disengaging completely.
 
We are with you, except upon viewing it is clearing.  ??? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
Quote from: POLARACO
When you attached the clutch rod to the fork, was it really hard to get in?  Without the rod, is the clutch fork sloppy a bit? 
 
No, not hard to install, but there's a lot of adjustment available on the rod.  With the first clutch there was not much movement; with the second it was quite sloppy for which Chris was happy.  He felt for sure we had it right the second time.
 
Quote from: POLARACO
Maybe it's the adjustment rod is too long.  Back it off and see what happens.
 




 
We did back it off, with both clutches, and saw no change.
 
Hey, I appreciate the guesses, because that's what we are all doing at this time!
 
Someone on an AMC forum suggested that the rear end is slipping - the yoke.  I can't beleive that as I had that third member in my Newport with no problems.   Again, ???
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on April 09, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
I am sure that you checked this but is it possible that the throwout bearing is in backwards? One of my buddys (actually a few people I know have done it over the years lol) put one in backwards and it went togther but did not work properly. Not sure if yours will go in backwards or not...I have not worked on an AMC except to change spark plugs and small things like that.


I hope that you can figure it out before you break something.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 11, 2010, 02:30:19 PM
Problem solved!!!  It was the rear end.  The guy who made and sold me the axles made them 1/2" too short!  They would not lock into the limited-slip hub.  In the meantime, we pulled the 3.23s and put in my 2.76 open TM and all is well!!  Once I get new, correct axles we will put in the 3.55s with the LS Clutch of the 3.23s swapped in.  Big Chris is doing the work.
 
So, now you can view the video of the first, successful difve of the Grem Reaper!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI)
 
Enjoy!  View all of Jerry's links if you want.  There is one with Chris driving the Grem.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stitcherbob on April 11, 2010, 08:12:33 PM
That was fun- getting to go with you guys on your first ride! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley33.gif)


And I didn't even have to get a plane ticket to CA.....


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 12, 2010, 03:25:31 AM
Quote from: Snotty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI)
 
Sure didn't sound like any Rambler I ever knew.
 
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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on April 12, 2010, 03:45:17 AM
Remember the SC/Rambler, AMX and Rebel Machine? AMC made some cool factory muscle back in the day...

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 13, 2010, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: Commando1
Quote from: Snotty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqhbiH-FEdI)
 
Sure didn't sound like any Rambler I ever knew.
 
 
 
Exactly what someone said to us on Rosedale Highway when we were driving it!  We put 115 miles on it in three hours while stopping at people's homes!  Whoo-hoo!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 13, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
It's a fun video isn't it Bob?  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 13, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: firedome
Remember the SC/Rambler, AMX and Rebel Machine? AMC made some cool factory muscle back in the day...
 
Amen to that!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Dan Cluley on April 14, 2010, 09:30:22 PM
Finally got to watch.  Very nice video.  I like big cars, but there's something to be said for being able to U turn in an intersection. :)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 16, 2010, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: D Cluley
Finally got to watch.  Very nice video.  I like big cars, but there's something to be said for being able to U turn in an intersection. :)


 
AMC bragged that the Gremlin could turn inside the radius of a VW bug circle - they weren't lying!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stewart Van Petten on April 17, 2010, 02:59:07 PM
Yee haa! How is it running now that you have a few miles on it? Does it need more fine tuning? Is the clutch holding properly with all that torque on tap? Hope you have lots of fun with it this season!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 19, 2010, 07:20:55 AM
Cluthc is holding well, but we do look forward to being able to put the 3.55s in - taking off with the tall gears is an experience!
 
It now has 508 miles and we will change the oil tonight.  Had one problem: the fan blade spun off of out electric motor.  ???  Going to remove the shroud and fix it tonight when we change the oil.
 
I need to post some newer pictures. 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 19, 2010, 08:04:06 AM
You never once said the drive shaft was spinning when all this was going on. . .Or didn't you see it?
 
That is so cool. . . ..   Glad you finally got it.
 
I've been saving it up for ya.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 20, 2010, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
You never once said the drive shaft was spinning when all this was going on. . .Or didn't you see it?
 
 
We dismissed any thought if it - the third member had been in my Newport and the axles were new.  Had to be correct, right?  WRONG!
 
Crap!  At least all is well now, for the most part.  Now I'm having electrical problems, and I am never comfortable with eletricity.  The signal lights stopped working on the way to Van Nuys.  LAst night I checked the fuses and the relays.  With a new fuse I got the signals working but lost the tail lights and emergency flashers.  ???  I switched the two fuses and then I lost the signals, and did not get back the other two either!
 
More later.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 20, 2010, 08:25:14 AM
In the meantime, here's 3 pictures of the car at Spring Fling last Saturday.  It drew a crowd every time Jerry fired it up, even Jay Leno!  The funny thing is people's responce to painting - it seems to be split 50-50.  Some say paint, some say leave it the way it is.  I need to start a poll!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
Enjoy!
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/SF1.JPG)
Jerry cleaning it once we arrived.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/SF2.JPG)
I love this shot.  It shows the custom dash and the hood scoop.  It's functional, buy the way.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/SF3.JPG)
Cleaning done, now let the people arrive!  Ha!
 
Frances said Jerry has joined "the Dark Side."  He was never really interested in cars - now he's joining me at shows!  Darth Vader must be near!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 20, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
Lookit that poor thing. . . . Sitting htere all by its lonesome.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 20, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Lookit that poor thing. . . . Sitting htere all by its lonesome.
 
By 10 a.m. it was surrounded.  There was a tricked-out Challenger sitting next to it when we came back from the swap.  The red Cordoba on the passenger side was for sale, 70,000 car and beautiful!  Owner took it home with no takers at $5,500.  It's a shame some cars cannot sell.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 30, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
Latest change - dual exhausts!  My exhast man - Steve of No Muff - did the work.  He used the horneys because Jerry liked thier sound, but moved them to angle above the rear axle.  The car is considerably quieter now!
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/duals_1.JPG)
This was taken at the KC Fairgrounds during the Street Rod Nationals.  I have always LOVED dual tips!
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/8/duals_2.JPG)
Snotty2010-04-30 15:18:33
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2010, 11:10:50 AM
You forget to take a screw driver out?  Or is that some of your hany work mechanics? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 30, 2010, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: Snotty
- Steve of No Muff -
I feel very sorry for Steve.....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 30, 2010, 02:43:56 PM
"Steve's Muffler" formerly known as "No Muff Too Tuff."  He's trying to delete the latter.
 
Hobby: No, it's a nylon tie.  Steve used it to hold the speedo cable out of the way while he welded the the cut-outs in - their custom made.  I think he forgot to undo it.  We had not noticed it until we took this picture.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2010, 03:49:59 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
I thought it was some of your shoty work.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 01, 2010, 07:57:50 AM
Not this time!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on May 03, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
Very cool Snotts!!! When you and Jerry are ready you room is too!!! BTW Blossman its "Shoddy" not "Shoty"
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 03, 2010, 03:42:12 PM
I knew what I was saying. . . .
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 03, 2010, 09:23:41 PM
Ar, I thought it was Snotty?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2010, 06:13:06 AM
Pretty shoty snotty
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 05, 2010, 09:44:19 AM
That's Snotty Scotty!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 05, 2010, 10:35:21 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)

So what was the conclusion on the color?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 06, 2010, 08:11:57 AM
That's not this thread!  The topic here is simply updates.  Thpppp!!!  (That's me sticking my tongue at you!)  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 12, 2010, 09:19:36 PM
Check out the latest, walk-around video!  Jerry took off the cut-out plugs and filmed the car while it was idling in the driveway.  This gives a good view of the total car as we currently have it.  Enjoy!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igs06fJ4KA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igs06fJ4KA)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 24, 2010, 09:10:58 AM
Jerry took First Place in Under Construction Class at our show this past weekend!  Good for you Jerry!  (Pictures of treh show soon to come.)
 
At the same show Steve Fogel took First in Misc. Mopar with his "Christine."  Good for you Hurst1!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on July 26, 2010, 09:30:22 AM
I pulled the gas tank last Friday and installed the correct fuel sending unit and float.  There was a place on the front of the tank that had a 1" space above it; it was as if it was designed to put it there.  Now the gauge reads correctly.  Needed to do this with the SW gauges we installed.  The gas gauge was on a different amperage than what AMC used.
 
We're slowly getting all thigns done....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 23, 2010, 08:24:13 AM
We dumped the 185* thermostat for a 160* - car is running measurably cooler now.  I also had Chris "The Doctor" re-jet and re-spring the Eddy carb; pinging on acceleration is gone.  (That also coinsided with the lower temps.)
 
New top speed on a public street: 142 MPH @ 4,100 RPM before backing off.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  Jerry did the driving.  It was midnight with no one around on an isolated Kern County road.  (I know, it's still illegal.)  The sad side is we filmed it and all you can see are the gauges and a little of the road.  Boo!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Guests on August 23, 2010, 08:40:31 AM
Yeah, but the sad truth is, any more and it would be easier to get you a ticket. More and more of these incidents are being checked for validity, and as they say, it didn't happen unless there is a picture or movie to prove it!
 
Good deal, proud of that little  Gremlin you got there.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 23, 2010, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: dana44
Yeah, but the sad truth is, any more and it would be easier to get you a ticket. More and more of these incidents are being checked for validity, and as they say, it didn't happen unless there is a picture or movie to prove it!
 
 
Thanks!
 
As for the warning, you will notice that I do not mention the name of the road, nor did we in the video even say it, mention Kern County, or anythign else.  We may be dumb, but we're not stupid.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on August 24, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
This car rocks!

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 24, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
Thanks Sjak!  Have you viewed any of the video links?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on August 24, 2010, 10:20:17 PM
Yes of course! This is really one of the best and most fun projects on the board!
 
Regarding the paint-issue, tough decision you have to make. Personnaly, I would keep it as is. But seventies-style glitter-look would be so wrong that its good.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 25, 2010, 08:52:07 AM
Thanks for the compliment Sjak! 
 
I'll be sure to have Jerry read your post - especially about the paint.  It's funny the reactions that subject gets. 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 25, 2010, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Snotty
Quote from: CBarge
Good work,Snotty.

HA!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  No, we'll do without those!
 
I've been re-reading this entire thread - and enjoying the many comments!!
 
As for the one above I was talking about the Dingo balls - I think side-pipes would be COOL!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  If we ever get a ticket for the header cut-outs I guess we could go that route.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on August 25, 2010, 10:34:11 AM



Quote from: Snotty
 
I can imagine.

Well my advice, if there's gonna be a repaint, then extremely loud & flashy flake colors that will put the seventies to shame and make the designers of Hot Wheels jealous. And of course hotwheels-style sidepies as the icing on the cake.

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)


Sjak Brak2010-08-25 15:38:04
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on August 25, 2010, 12:21:12 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)




 
However, Jerry wants to go with either Blarney Green (original color) or Big-Bad Green.  He also wants to go with black striping instead of the white the car has.  He will keep the scoop black.  When will this happen?  I've no idea....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on August 25, 2010, 12:59:57 PM
Big Bad Green is also awesome! Dindt think of it at all, as I really never see any AMC over here unfortunately. But any the Big Bad color schemes would do justice to the car :)

Last time is about 2 years ago I think. A very nice Javelin that tried to keep up with the Imperial on the highway, was big fun.

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 11, 2010, 08:46:35 AM
We had a set-back.
 
A week ago Jeery and I went to a CLub Breakfast and Cruise.  Two blocks from our house we ehard a noise and then, "clack-clack-clack."  Jerry stopped real quick, started going forward and the noise returned instantly.  It would go away when his foot was on the clutch but was there with his foot off, and louder when moving.  We limped home.
 
We pulled the transmission out last Saturday.  The good news is the clutch looks great!  The bad news is you can hear the noise while turning the input shaft of the T-10.  Sheesh!  It only has 1,038 miles on it!  Back to the shop it goes!
 
Chris "the Doctor" said it might be a simple fix, but suggested that if the cost was over $200 to think about getting another transmission.  I got this T-10 in a trade and had it fully rebuilt.  If it won't hold up it would be a waste to keep puting money in it.
 
I'll keep you informed.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on October 11, 2010, 09:40:03 AM
Jeery??????  Toche'
 
[color=#ff0000 size=7]NICE JOB![/color]
 
There I said it
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on October 11, 2010, 10:39:29 AM
That's too bad Scott! I hope its only a small fix!

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 12, 2010, 08:09:19 AM
We'll find out.  I want to get the transmision to the shop today.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 20, 2010, 09:37:33 PM
I found a guy who rebuilds 4-speeds in his garage as a second career.  Took the T-10 to him tonight.  It's lost 3 teeth on the main gear of the lower thrust shaft.  He also said the supposedly "new" input shaft had a bad end on it.  He also told me he knew who did the work previously and said they use cheap parts which was probably why the trans failed so early.  Gave me a quote of $650 to fix it.
 
So, I am now taking donations.  I am not a tax-deductable intity but if any of you have money burning holes in your pockets....   (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on October 20, 2010, 11:44:48 PM
I have holes in my pockets, will that do (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif)
 
I feel your pain. I hate it when someone is paid well to do the job right messes up... thats also why I do most of the work on my mopars myself, after a few > $1000 garage bills that didnt do any actual good to my cars....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 21, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
Quote from: Snotty
  It's lost 3 teeth on the main gear of the lower thrust shaft. 
 
My mind was mush last night - it's the lower "cluster shaft."
 
I hear you Sjak.  If I had known 4 years ago that all Transmissions shops in Bakersfield ship 4-speeds out instead of doign the work themselves I would have sought other avenues - called Fresno or something.  The guy here calls me up ans says, "OK, I can fix it but it's going to be expensive."  When it was finished I asked why it took so long?  He told me the parts had to come from all over the US.  He didn't tell me that he had to wait for it to go and return from LA!
 
Gak!!  Where's integrity gone to these days??
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on October 21, 2010, 12:26:38 PM

Thats also something in favor of small local shops: you can drop-by anytime to check on the progress.

But then again, in hindsight, we all know everything better.... so you're not to blame.


At least the car is actually worth the trouble and $$ :)


Sjak Brak2010-10-21 17:29:30
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on October 21, 2010, 04:57:15 PM
Sounds like an awful lot of damage for even cheap parts.   look for abnormal wear in the wrong places on the parts. I wonder if he shimmed somethig wrong
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on October 21, 2010, 05:16:33 PM
[/QUOTE]


 
Agreed
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 22, 2010, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Sounds like an awful lot of damage for even cheap parts.   look for abnormal wear in the wrong places on the parts. I wonder if he shimmed somethig wrong


 
Craig said the same Steve.  He said the input shaft was bad too.  When I told him it had been replaced - I used the original as a clutch alignment tool - he shook his head.
 
Sjak, thanks for the encouragement.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on October 22, 2010, 02:05:41 PM
Give him the old one back!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 24, 2010, 03:34:17 PM
The guy doing the work is not the same who did the original rebuild.  That old shaft is toast - heavilly damaged.  He does want to see it as a possible indicator of what may have happened.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on October 25, 2010, 04:36:34 AM
Time for a Jerico or a TKO Tremec to go in the Gremlin... 

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on October 25, 2010, 09:40:25 AM
We've given some thought to going with a T-5 (common swap on AMCs) but the need to swap so much stuff and cut the trans hump is keeping us from that if this rebuild will take care of the problem.  Not to mention the $$$$.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 03, 2010, 10:18:20 AM
Still waiting for the transmission's second rebuild.  The man found a NOS cluster shaft that had never been used in the correct ratios.  $375!!!!  So, that with the input shaft and I'm already at $575.
 
The transmission is the only part of this project that has truly pissed me off.  All projects have hic-cups but this one has been bloody expensive.   All tolled this transmission has now cost me over 2 grand!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 03, 2010, 04:39:55 PM
WOW.. almost makes the tremec sound like a deal...

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 04, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
In retrospect you are absolutely right!  I have made up my mind that this will be the last money I spend on this transmission.  If it goes again we will make a change.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on November 05, 2010, 12:09:56 PM
When properly installed and with the right parts, a manual tranny is dead reliable.

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 05, 2010, 02:04:16 PM

Quote from: Sjak Brak
When properly installed and with the right parts...
You can say that just about for everything except anything Brittish.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 05, 2010, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: Sjak Brak
When properly installed and with the right parts, a manual tranny is dead reliable.


 
Agreed, but the problem with a T-10 is that parts are no longer made for them.  So, if these old, used parts break again I will put no more money into this transmission.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jacques on November 06, 2010, 08:15:56 AM

OK I didnt know that... makes the job much more challenging....

If $$ was not an issue, I would opt for this, check the 3rd video:
http://www.keislerauto.com/recent-news/the-all-new-road-a-track-6-speed.html (http://www.keislerauto.com/recent-news/the-all-new-road-a-track-6-speed.html)


Sjak Brak2010-11-06 12:17:22
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on November 06, 2010, 01:00:35 PM
I was just going to mutter the word Kiesler, But Sjak beat me to it.
 
Better step up collections in the plate Snotty
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 06, 2010, 02:24:24 PM
The Keisler kit uses the Tremec tranny that I mentioned earlier.

I'm surprised that there is a shortage of T-10 parts.. most Gen two Camaros came with a t-10 in manual over the Muncie, Nascar used them for many years until the Jerico came around..

Did even the 6 cyl Gremlins and Hornets use the T-10?


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 07, 2010, 07:24:23 PM
[/QUOTE]



 
Yes, IF....  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 07, 2010, 07:29:16 PM
[/QUOTE]


 
Many cars used T-10s but the later Cameros used "Super T-10s," an aluminum-case transmission.  I had one but the bolt pattern was wrong for the bell, so I traded it for an AMC-specific T-10.
 
T-10s were never used in Gremlins, and were in Hornets only in the SC/360, which was a '71 model only.  If you have/had a Javelin with a 4-speed, it's a T-10.  Ours came from a '68 Jav.
 
The Grems and Hornets used a combo orf T-14 and T-15 3-speeds.  Later ones used T-5s as did the Spirits and Sprints of the late '70s, early '80s.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 07, 2010, 07:32:31 PM
Talked with Craig Wright today.  He found two thigns insind the transmission that may have led to its demise.  There was no thrust bearing retainer on the input shaft, and the cluster gear had close to 1/16" of end play.  He said either, or a combination of the two, probably caused the teeth to sheer off.  he's waiting on the retainer to arrive.
 
He also wanted me to be sure the Pilot Bushing was good (I bought it new).  He told me the input-shaft he got is probably the last one available in the US for that transmission.  In other words: don't screw this one up!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 08, 2010, 02:53:11 AM
I'm glad it's working out.. thanks for the info on the T-10.. I didn't know the differences..

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 08, 2010, 09:05:02 AM
The Super T-10 is supposed to be a great transmission - wish I had worked with the one I/we had.  :-(
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 13, 2010, 04:46:47 AM
Snotty:

I have been eying up a 4 door 1980 Concord down the road.. is it basically a Gremlin underneath?

Might make a fun little sleeper drag car..


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 13, 2010, 07:16:36 AM

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)



>$500 so far and NR.
Commando12010-11-13 13:01:32
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 13, 2010, 09:16:49 AM
And how am I supposed to get a car from Columbus Ohio to Ontario Canada?

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 13, 2010, 11:18:47 AM

(http://www.streetracerscy.com/images/smiles/drivingskid.gif)



Commando12010-11-13 16:19:40
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 13, 2010, 03:36:19 PM
That Matador remains factory - the "N" in teh VIN indicates the car as a 360.  Hmmm.
 
Jason, yes.  The Concord was the former Hornet.  The Concords and Spirits are good parts suppliers for Grems and Hornets.  Not satying they are not good to do similar stuff on, but in California they must be smog-correct, so they are not done often.
 
I pulled the disk-brake and anti-sway bar off of a '79 Spirit that we used on the Grem.  Ultimately, that swap saved me $200 in brake parts over using actual '73 stuff.
 
If the Concord you're looking at is a V-8 car, you can put any motor in you want: 290, 304, 343, 360, 390, and 401!  They are all externally the same except for the head-height on the latter 2.  Have fun if you do get it!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 13, 2010, 03:37:24 PM
Got the transmision back today - for a total cost of $1,048.00.  BUT!!!  Craig says it will not fail this time. 
 
I'm gun-shy....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on November 13, 2010, 04:22:12 PM
You picked him. . .   Did he warranty it?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 13, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
I guess you won't be side stepping the clutch at 500 grand with that tranny..

BTW.. I went to look at the Concord.. Great shape, 6 cyl ( from what I could see from underneath). The springs are sagging quite a bit.. floor is mint..  no one was around for me to ask how much..




Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 14, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
You picked him. . .   Did he warranty it?




 
Yes, for the first year, but that was three years ago.  Remember, this project is over 5 years in the making.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 14, 2010, 04:04:34 PM
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Those are coils.  I have a set of V-8 coils we did not use in case you get the car and want to use them.  They are fairly easy to change.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 15, 2010, 03:01:10 AM
Coil springs on the rear?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 15, 2010, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: 1965Windsor361
Coil springs on the rear?
 
Ah!  I made an assumption!  When you said the "springs are sagging" I instantly thought of the front end.  D'oh!  I should have asedk for clarification.
 
No, leafs on the back.  Ours on the Grem were fine so I've no idea how tough it would be to get new ones.
 
If that car is a 6 banger, it will be the AMC 258/4.2.  That is the motor that AMC redesigned to become the AMC 4.0 - a true butt-kicking I-6 if there ever was one.  It's the motor that powered so many Jeep Cherokees in the late '80s and early '90s.  They are a bolt-up for any 258 AMC, and there is a ton of after-market stuff available to make one a true screamer!
 
Something to think about....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on November 15, 2010, 12:04:18 PM
Alcan Spring in Colorado can do whatever you want at a reasonable price
 
See the main site under parts for sale. (I think)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 15, 2010, 04:37:46 PM
I have a 4.0 liter Jeep and it will fry the tires even at 250 000 miles.. 3.50 gears

I would think a 4.0 litre in a Concord would make a screaming little car. Mine is rated at 190hp for '92..


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 16, 2010, 09:28:35 AM
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Oh yeah!  That was a great little motor.  There's a number of AMC guys that are swapping to it instead of going with a V-8.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 16, 2010, 09:36:58 AM
does the 4.0 litre share the same bolt pattern as the older 6 cylinders?

did any of the 727 used by AMC share the bellhousing bolt pattern with any mopar engines?


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 16, 2010, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: 1965Windsor361
does the 4.0 litre share the same bolt pattern as the older 6 cylinders?
 

 
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No, they are not compatible between AMC and Mopar.  They are 904/988s and 727s, but the bolt pattern is not Mopar, and, the starter on all AMC motors is on the passenger side, not the driver's side like a Mopar.  Many people have learned that one the hard way! 
 
If you're using an AMC motor you must use an AMC transmission and bell or try to find an adapter.
 
Which is why I'm stuck with the T-10!!!!  HA! 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 19, 2010, 09:06:34 AM
Was hoping to get the transmission in today but Jerry has training for his new job.  Boo!  (But hooray for Jerry.)  I only have one day a week that I can work on cars.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on November 20, 2010, 04:17:26 AM
Let us know...

Snotty.. do they make many suspension upgrading pieces for the Gremlin/Hornet/Concord?  I would think one set up for Road course would make a great street car..


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 20, 2010, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: 1965Windsor361
do they make many suspension upgrading pieces for the Gremlin/Hornet/Concord? 





 
No.  The guys I know who have done any mods have gone wth fabricatung their own parts.  I wanted to go with poly bushings when I rebuilt and converted the front end to disk brakes.  But the only company even offering rebuild kits was PST.  And, if you;ve used them you know what that means - I needed to get the inner tie-rod ends, Pitman arm, and idler on my own.
 
Now I need to replace the stut-rod bushings.  I was looking things over when we pulled the trans out and the drivers side is already split and the passenger side has cracks in it.  Man they use cheap parts!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on November 20, 2010, 03:30:52 PM
I keep telling you. . .Justsuspension.  I replaced the lower bushings on Polaraco 2 years ago.  When I changed the oil a month ago, they looked as good as the day I installed them
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 22, 2010, 09:45:54 AM
Hey Stevo, please read again what I said....
 
Quote from: Snotty
  But the only company even offering rebuild kits was PST. 
 
I contacted JS and they offered nothing for AMC cars.  They might do so now but not 4 years ago.
 
Thanks anyway.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on November 22, 2010, 01:27:45 PM
That's because it's not a true Mopar
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 22, 2010, 01:35:44 PM
Ouch............
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 22, 2010, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
That's because it's not a true Mopar
 
We're not going there agian are we?  If so....
 
 
"Welcome to Moparfins - where a fin is very hard to find, even on a clear day.  And, even if you have a fin, good luck, because hardly anyone here does!  But, we like the name and have had it since Clinton was President, so, check in and have a good time - but you'd better own a car we consider a Mopar.  (Those do not include any AMCs, Jeeps, or FWD cars - even though that's all Mopar made from '90-'05 not counting trucks and vans."
 
There, post that on the Forum main-page.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 06, 2010, 09:31:30 AM
Jerry and I put the transmission back in on Saturday afternoon - all is well!  Actually, Frances and I put the trans back in; Jerry returned from work in enough time to help "button" everything back.
 
I must give Kudos to my wife - her help was very valuable!  I wanted to get as much done by the time Jerry got home.  She worked the jack while I was under the car lining the trans into place.  Once Jerry got home I was wratcheting the bolts tight! 
 
The transmission shifts well and "sounds" right if that makes sense.  While looking at the torque specs I noticed that the cluster-shaft was supposed to have an end-play of .003"-.012."  Craig Wright said it had .016" in it as well as too much play in the input shaft.
 
Next on the agenda...
We'll see!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on December 06, 2010, 11:14:27 AM
So typical of you.
 
You make Francis push the car while you steer, she carries all the luggage and you carry a CD case, now you make her help install a transmission.
 
What did you need a jsck for?  All you needed to do was put the trans on your belly and inhale!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on December 06, 2010, 11:14:45 AM
And you still have me by 35 pounds.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 07, 2010, 12:45:36 PM
Oh, oh, the gauntlet has been laid!!!!!   (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif)
 
 
(However, you might be right about that 35 pounds, but you LOOK fatter!!!)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on December 07, 2010, 02:16:16 PM
So far much of a bark of the tires do you get powershifting 2nd?

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 07, 2010, 08:48:31 PM
Have not tried that yet.  :-(  Thinking about it, I have not driven the car since we put the trans back in.
 
Jerry washed it today and two older guys from accross the street came over.  One guy said  - I kid you not - "I had an orgasm when you guys first started that thing up."  Ok.....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on December 08, 2010, 03:27:01 AM
LOL... nice thought eh?

Full throttle, Ronnie Sox powershift is what is in order I think... LOL


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 08, 2010, 01:07:45 PM
:-)  I wish the video we shot when we drove it at 142MPH at midnight had come out.  Unfortunately, all you can see are the guages and hear the motor.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on December 08, 2010, 01:45:25 PM
Trying to outrun Motorola are you?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 09, 2010, 09:42:52 AM
Not where we were - a very isolated 2-lane road east of town.  We only saw one other car.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on December 13, 2010, 10:44:43 AM
Ah, got to fix the wipers!!  They worked until the fusable link blew last summer.  When I replaced it the wiring shematic did not match what is under our dash so I did not know what was supposed to be the "hot wire."  I put it off 'till "later."
 
Well, last Saturday night Jerry and I went to our Mopar Club Xmas party.  Although a warm December day, frost had develpoed on the windshield when we headed for home.  Oooops!!
 
Glad the defroster works, but had Big Jeff not had some paper towels handy we would have had a fun ride home!  I think "later" has arrived!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on January 15, 2011, 08:12:42 AM
Jerry drove the Grem to McKittrick yesterday for his work.  He offered to buy the crew beer afterwards (he's working as a carpenter apprentice).  When he got to the Liquor Store he was given serveral good offeres for the Grem.
 
1: 2003 Mustang 'vert.
2: 2 POS's
3: 2 POS's plus his first two payments on another car he would want to buy.
4: The chance to impregnante another man's wfe.
 
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One of those is a fake....
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on January 15, 2011, 08:33:50 AM
#3
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on January 15, 2011, 01:26:21 PM
I'd take it as a pat on the back and keep the Gremlin...

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on March 16, 2011, 12:48:32 PM
Absolutely Jason!
 
Two weeks ago I changed the strut-rod bushing on the Driver's side.  The car was making a metallic noise ever-so-often at idle, and getting more common.  We thought it was coming from the area of the clutch.  I told Jerry that we knew the bushing was bad; perhaps we were hearing the metal rod hitting the frame support where it had worn away.  My thinking was, "We know where a problem exists; let's fix that first and see what happens."
 
Snotty2011-03-16 16:49:17
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on March 16, 2011, 03:31:34 PM
WOW... that would chew up tires too..

Had it down the track yet?


Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on March 18, 2011, 11:29:06 AM
Not yet Jason.  Besides, we still need to get the correct axles so that we can run the 3.55 SG unit instead of the 2.76 open that is currently in the car.  I have 3.5 months left to do so with my present resources - got to get to it!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 07, 2011, 09:31:33 AM
Some people make me laugh.  I drove Jerry's Grem to get some burgers last Tuesday.  There were two elderly couples sitting outside at a table.  They were looking at the car and I heard one say, "290."  I looked at them and one of the women said, "What motor does that car have?  They are betting on which one."  I just pointed to the hood scoop - a large Javelin "401" resides there.  She said, "Well, what does it have?"  I said, "401."  The men looked at me like I was lying.
 
This would not seem strange except for last May I was driving it when some young guy drove up next to me and said, "What is that?"  After I told him he said, "Sweet, what motor does it have?"  I pointed to the scoopand said, "401."  The guy laughed and said, "Seriously, what does it have?"  I said, "AMC 401."  He said, "Really, never heard of that?  Did they come in Gremlins?"
 
Should I laugh or cry?   
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: 300rag on April 07, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: Snotty
 



 
 
 
Neither. Just a big grin and smoke the tires!!!!!!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 07, 2011, 04:41:46 PM
He can do both?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 31, 2011, 08:56:14 AM
Took the Gremlin to Cole's Wheel and Brake today to get custom cables installed so the car can finally have E-brakes.  Hopefully all will work out.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 02, 2011, 10:13:54 AM
The E-brakes are great!  I also had Kirk install a new front ball-joint that I have not had the time to do.  He found a few things that have worn in the time since I rebuilt the frontend five years ago.  The most important was the end of the idler arm that attaches to the center-link was totally shot!  I am hoping the new one arrives from Ohio before we take the car to Chico next Wednesday.  Even so, the steering is a lot tighter now!! 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 11, 2011, 08:22:52 AM
Well, the story continues.  The Grem suffered a blow-out in MacFarland, 20 miles form the Bake.  Jerry heard a "banging"sound ten miles earlier; he must have hit somethign that cut the tire because it shredded.  I asked him if he wanted to stop and look but he said the car was riding fine.  We had it towed back to the house and continued the trip by taking the Newport to Chico.
 
So, the Grem is still in Bakersfield.  Chris "the Doctor" and I are going to tow it to Chico in a week.  My tire man at America's Tire is replacing the TA at no cost.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 21, 2011, 07:42:24 AM
The Gremlin is now in Chico.  Whoo-hoo!  As of next Monday - June 27 - so will we be.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 22, 2011, 06:20:27 AM

When I sell the 57 Linc I'm going to get something small that will
leave me with some actual space in the garage.  A 6 cyl Gremlin
might work.  Has to be under $2K too, running, solid,
paint/upholstery not important. Did they ever make a 4 cyl Grem? 
I could care less about speed, a fun putt around town car that gets
decent gas mileage is what I want these days. And weird looks are a
plus!



Horror of horrors, I'm also thinking about an early 70s Celica or some
such... you just never see 'em anymore, at least here.  I want
something dependable, fun, and cheap to drive.



Good luck with the big Move!  Know from experience it's not fun. MD>PA>VT>NY.


firedome2011-06-22 11:27:21
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Guests on June 22, 2011, 07:09:29 AM
There were no 4 cylinder engines for AMC in the 70s, closest they came was the Wrankel engine being built by GM that was in the Pacer's first year, 1975, and a one year model engine, period. After that, it was all striaght six and little V8s.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 23, 2011, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: dana44
There were no 4 cylinder engines for AMC in the 70s, closest they came was the Wrankel engine being built by GM that was in the Pacer's first year, 1975, and a one year model engine, period. After that, it was all striaght six and little V8s.


 
You are wrong, O Great Navy Breath!  (Did you ever watch Johnny Carson?)  See my following note.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 23, 2011, 11:50:39 AM
Quote from: firedome
When I sell the 57 Linc I'm going to get something small that will leave me with some actual space in the garage.  A 6 cyl Gremlin might work.  Has to be under $2K too, running, solid, paint/upholstery not important. Did they ever make a 4 cyl Grem?  I could care less about speed, a fun putt around town car that gets decent gas mileage is what I want these days. And weird looks are a plus!
 
Yes, they did sell a 4 banger Grem starting in '77 or 8 after AMC was purchased by Renault.  There was even a Diesel version, but since they were real pigs they are very rare.  The problem with the 4 cyl motor is finding parts!  There is always someone on GremlinX.com looking for parts for those.  The motor was from Audi, but they do not stock a single part for them today.
 
Grems were 6 or V-8 cars for the first 6 years.  In '70 the smallest motor was the 199 cid 6; don't know if that motor made it through '71.  By '72 the smallest motor was the 232, with the 258 being the optional 6 and the 304 being the only V-8 except for the 2 years they dropped 360s into a few of them.  There were no factory 401 Grems, nor 390s, but Randall AMC of Arizona did build some 50 401 Grems with permission from AMC.
 
As for finding a good one for 2 grand, that was entirely possible 4 years ago, but today....  It's a crapshoot.  Plenty of these cars can be found however, especially the later '70s ones.  Also, they were made in Mexico up through '81, although dropped in the US after '78.
 
Another point, a lot of people think that a "Gremlin X" meant a high-performance version.  That is not true.  The "X" was merely a package that gave some options like AC, the lower shelf, and a locking glove box.  They came with any motor available.   Ours was an X with the 258.
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I always liked the early '70s STs.  They are rare even in California because they were not built very well and then were often trashed by the owners.  I see one every once in a while, but they are usually the later versions.  I did see a sweet '72 in Oregon when I was there a year ago!!
 
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Thanks.  It's a pain and I'm taking a break at this moment.  The moving truck arrives tomorrow.  Whoo-hoo!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 28, 2011, 05:28:16 AM

Post some pics of the transition!
It's always fun to see other people working.

I thought I remembered a 4 cyl Grem, though didn't realize it was an Audi, yuk.
Too bad they didn't use the 4 cyl they used in some Cherokees.

IIRC none of the GM Wankel engines ever made it into any production car.
The program was cancelled, it was to go in the Monza/Skyhawk/Starfire body.
At one time it was considered for the Corvette!
I had a '76 Starfire V6 5 speed. Drivetrain was fine, but had the worst body construction of ANY car I've ever owned, bar none, and that's about 150 cars. A real rust rattletrap POS.

firedome2011-06-28 10:33:38
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Jason Goldsack on June 29, 2011, 04:13:46 AM
How many Gremlin/Hornet parts moved on to the Spirit/Concorde models?

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 29, 2011, 07:03:47 AM
The Spirit hatchback was essentially a renamed Gremlin I think,
identical 6cyl engines too. Same with Hornet -> Concord, my
Grandfather had the latter. Not a bad car but lousy interior quality.
Nothing on the dash lined up straight. Ran good though.

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on July 01, 2011, 03:50:31 PM


DO NOT see Cars 2 Brother Snotty!!!!! You will be ANGRY!!!!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on July 01, 2011, 09:30:02 PM
I've ehard that Bro, but I will see it anyway....
The Gremlin was made in MExico up to '81, but it looked like the US Spirit.  The last one - '81 - looks cool IMO, but it has to pass CA smog so... nope!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on July 05, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
The idiot who trowed the Gremlim back to Bakersfield after the blowout bent the radiator mounts!!!  The electric fan is now riding on the waterpump!!  Sure glad I/we didn't try to drive it anywhere; we would have had real fun!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on November 12, 2012, 12:18:50 PM

Wow, I have not commented since July '11?  Sheesh!

New update!!  I finally got the right axles in the 8.75 rear!  I found them on eBay through a guy called "Dr. Diff."  As I spoke with him on the phone he told me the Yukon axles for A Body rears have been the wrong length for 10 years!  I was rather glad to hear this because it let me know that the guy who sold the Yukons to me did not intentionally screw me.


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Thanks for looking!

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 16, 2014, 08:49:45 AM
Just put new Strut-rod bushings on the Grem - again!!  This time I used Moog two-piece ones, actually built for Mustang.  They are a lot stouter; hopefully they will last.



Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on April 16, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
I got one several years back for my 68 Charger, good fit and finish, no problems at all.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on April 16, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: Snotty
Just put new Strut-rod bushings on the Grem - again!!  This time I used Moog two-piece ones, actually built for Mustang.  They are a lot stouter; hopefully they will last.



Not from Rock Auto, but I have bought them all over the place and they were fine.  The only problem I encountered was the locking rings on the sending units don't fit quite right.  Last one I did was Polaraco, so things may have changed
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on April 17, 2014, 06:46:14 AM
The pnes I've looked at for FL cars are Canadian made so good quality, not sure if Rock Auto's for later C bodies are Chinee or not, I'd be suspicious of  those if so.

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 17, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
Thanks guys.  Now I have to drive the car to get the gas out.  Man, that sucks!!  It's outside my Office at this very moment!

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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on April 30, 2014, 06:58:50 AM
Quote from: firedome
The pnes I've looked at for FL cars are Canadian made so good quality, not sure if Rock Auto's for later C bodies are Chinee or not, I'd be suspicious of  those if so.


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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on May 01, 2014, 08:40:12 AM
Good deal, nice tank!  I'm hoping to save the original one on our '58, but good to know that decent repops are available!

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 06, 2014, 09:13:00 AM
I cannot believe the condition of this one; every bend was identical to the one I removed.  I highly recommend going this route if you cannot save the one you have.
Now, anyone know of a good source for a sending unit?  When I pulled the one out it clearly is wrong, and it will not read above 3/4 tank.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2014, 04:28:33 PM
Unfortunately, the sending unit is tough.  I bent the arm on Polaraco.  did it in baby steps, one tank at a time
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 07, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
I could have sworn a year ago they could be found on Rockauto and YearOne; now neither.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 07, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
Seems to me I used a B Body unit.  But you can just adjust that one.  Make sure the float isn't full.  It was a PITA getting it right
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 08, 2014, 09:56:01 AM
Float was full.  It was a plastic one; I replaced it with a metal one but ended up with the same results.

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2014, 12:10:27 PM
You need to take the unit out and bend it down slightly.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 09, 2014, 08:30:21 AM
It's not the correct one Steve.  If I take the time to take it out I want to do so only to put the right one in.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on May 09, 2014, 11:07:58 AM
It seems like the ones I bought over the years were the same.  I might have one or two here for your car.  Since I am selling Polaraco, I will no longer need them.  You in a rush for it?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on May 13, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
No big rush; been living with it for 10.5 years.  Did you get those pictures taken though?
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 05, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
Took the Gremlin out for a short drive to the Church last night - rear u-joint decided it no longer wanted to serve the car.  Boo!  Don't yet know it if was a cup or the u-clamp.  The joint is still on the shaft and looks good.
It's a Mopar A Body 8.75 rear if you don't remember.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 05, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
I had one come apart on my 74 Barracuda. Not fun, I was just north of Grants Pass doing 85mph at 11pm. Have fun, just make sure the driveline didn't bend, and hopefully the bolts broke and can be backed out easily.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 05, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
That reminds me Scott.  I found the box with the sending units.  I was out there so long looking for them Elaine sent out a platoon to search for me.
Now I have to remember to take pics of them for you.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 06, 2014, 09:13:41 AM
Quote from: dana44
I had one come apart on my 74 Barracuda. Not fun, I was just north of Grants Pass doing 85mph at 11pm. Have fun, just make sure the driveline didn't bend, and hopefully the bolts broke and can be backed out easily.

That's my hope too; still have not looked.  Was going to today but I'm feeling lazy - there's always tomorrow.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 06, 2014, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
That reminds me Scott.  I found the box with the sending units.  I was out there so long looking for them Elaine sent out a platoon to search for me.

Look for 5, nap for 30; look for 5, nap for 30....  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 06, 2014, 03:18:10 PM
wish I could nap.  I move all day until I drop
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 07, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
UPDATE!  One bolt sheared off of the yoke and the other side bolt is gone as well as that U-clamp.  The other side U-clamp is in place, without the cup however.  I don't know if the one that is sheared caused the problem, and it sheared when the other one let go.  I tried to thread a bolt into the open hole where the one was missing but it is stripped.  I have some work to do....

However, those glaspacs that I hate so much actually helped - they took the brunt of the drive-shaft when it let go, thus saving the shaft from serious damage.  There is a small dent in the shaft; I will need to get it checked for balance when I fix/replace the yoke.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 07, 2014, 12:58:54 PM
The yoke, if not missing a chunk, will probably be fine.  The missing bolt probably fell out sheering the apposing bolt  It's a 1/4 inch  28 fine thread.  Replace them all.  Socket head are nice, but can be troublesome when tightening.  The broken one will probably back right out.  Sears sells a pretty good remover for that small stuff.  You might be able to straighten it out on your own.  Caps are easy at any good auto parts store.  They sell U Joint kits with them and new bolts.
On another note.  I took a couple of pics of the sending units.  
POLARACO2014-06-08 08:04:49
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 08, 2014, 09:50:41 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
On another note.  I took a couple of pics of the sending units.  


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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 09, 2014, 09:49:52 AM
Nag Nag Nag
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 13, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Thanls for teh pics Steve.

What say some of ye?  I am gong to look at them this coming Thursday.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 13, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
Yeah, that is a decent price as long as they are in good shape. Assembled in a third member would be really good, if you have to install, the bearing kits are around $125 on top of it. I prefer 3.23s over 3.55s on the street, but really like 2.73s for the highway speeds, or a good overdrive. The second advantage of the 2.73s is keeping the rear tires from spinning so easily from a stop, so tires are saved a bit, and being able to hit 60mph in first gear is kind of cool, too. Hard to do that with 3.55s, but 3.23s are a good alternative between the two.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 14, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
3.23's are hard to come by used.  The 67 had a set so I put them in Polaraco and scrapped the 355's.  Look around for a Gear Benders over drive unit.  That's what the car needs.  But that 3200 doesn't sound right.  You sure they aren't 410's?  That makes more sense
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 15, 2014, 10:12:33 AM
Gearvendors will cost you more than $2500 and a whole lot of modifications, so it is less expensive to get either a 4spd auto transmission or a set of 3.23s. 3200rpm for 3.55s is about right, close to the speed of my Dakota in 4th.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 15, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
Polaraco seems to be much lower
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 15, 2014, 05:17:30 PM
Yes, but you have that overdrive on the 4spd transmission, mine runs 5th gear at 2400rpm at 70mph, too. The .75ish overdrive gives you a 2.66 final drive on 3.55s, which really drops it down.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Steve on June 15, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
Yeah OK.  BUT!  You're talking 800 RPM.  I'm talking out of OD.  If I remember 3rd gear was like 2600 with the 323's. 
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 15, 2014, 06:58:46 PM
Yes, and with the 3.55s, it is around 3200rpm. So you are right, but the reference is the 3.55 rpm speed being a little bit of a problem on the street.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 16, 2014, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: dana44
Yeah, that is a decent price as long as they are in good shape. Assembled in a third member would be really good, if you have to install, the bearing kits are around $125 on top of it. I prefer 3.23s over 3.55s on the street, but really like 2.73s for the highway speeds, or a good overdrive. The second advantage of the 2.73s is keeping the rear tires from spinning so easily from a stop, so tires are saved a bit, and being able to hit 60mph in first gear is kind of cool, too. Hard to do that with 3.55s, but 3.23s are a good alternative between the two.

It's a complete 3rd member, 489 case.  We were running a 2.76 open out of my Newport when we had the wrong length axles.  The top end was fantastic, but opening acceleration sucked.  (However, that built 401 would cook the tires if you wanted.  Jerry did a huge burnout in front of Aldersgate one day!)  We had a 3.23 but it was damaged when we first built the car by using the axles that were too short.  I think the 3.23s will be a great medium ground.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 16, 2014, 09:55:02 AM
OH, I agree with the bottom end killer for the 2.73, but that is what keeps you out of trouble more than anything. 3.23s are a good compromise, works great in my Charger until I want to start cruising above 80mph, then I wish the rpm was down a little lower for longevity overall, and a little better mileage, too. Overdrive fixes that, but not sure if I want to modify the driveline tunnel yet, but that's a future issue.
 
As far as the damage you talked about, the parts/pieces are easily swapable from any known good center section, leave the pinion alone along with the ring gear, maybe replace the bearings and grab the spline pieces needed from another rear end to correct the "mistake".
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: firedome on June 17, 2014, 04:24:19 AM
Didn't Mope make a 2.9x something, sort of a middle ground?

Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: azblackhemi on June 17, 2014, 05:42:18 AM
Imperials had 2:94's.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 17, 2014, 09:14:25 AM
The '62 New Yorker Steve bought from me has 2.93s.  A sweet gear for that car that returns 18 MPG.  And, you can still burn the tires if you so desire!

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Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 17, 2014, 09:17:55 AM
Quote from: dana44

That was what we did with that set.  "Big Chris" Fredricksen took the open 3.55 third member I had and using the center section from the 3.23 he built the 3.55 SG that is currently in the Grem.  When I picked it up he gave instructions to not install that one until I got the correct axles.  I made that swap over a year ago but have not really liked them.  MPG dropped from 19 to around 8 for one thing!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on June 17, 2014, 03:12:34 PM
Yeah, that's what happens when you get out of the sweet spot. On the other side of that, a good porting of the heads and intake would help that. I got my PT Cruiser (different engine, sure, same concept), from 30mpg at 70mph and 24mpg at 85mph before porting to being able to maintain 29mpg at 90mph, so a worthwhile correction of the port and chamber design.  I have found this to be an across the board correction, not a specific design.
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on June 21, 2014, 10:14:27 AM
I got that 3.23 third member from the guy in San Jose.  He wouldn't drop one dollar on his price.  Even so, I can sell the 3.55 for more than I paid for this one.  That won't be too bad.
I had fun when he asked me what it was going into.  I told him to guess.  Ha!!!  He never chose correctly although he named ever Mopar ever built!  Nice guy!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: Snotty on July 23, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
I still don't know if the joint gave out or the rear-end locked suddenly. I doubt the latter because the wheels never grabbed. I suspect the problem was the joint. Upon inspection it had little to no lubricant in it. A dry needle bearing could have caused it to explode.

As of today the car has a new u-joint, new u-clamps and bolts, and is now running a 3.23 sure-grip instead of the 3.55 one. The sheared bolt and the unknown of the breakage led me to this decision. Never liked those gears anyway - gas mileage sucked and the motor always ran hot. I like the way it drove today. Not that much of a difference, but I have not had it on the freeway yet.

I also swapped the thermostat as well as drilled a 1/8" hole in the new one that is a 195* version. After driving a few miles the temp never went above 197. Prior it would hit 200+ at the end of a lap around the block, and that was with a 165* thermostat. Here's hoping!
Title: Gremlin / Newport Question Update
Post by: dana44 on July 24, 2014, 11:44:30 AM
Good deal, and I always drill the 1/8th inch hole in thermostats. It is large enough to allow air to make its way out and purge, yet small enough to prevent it from allowing too much fluid to pass and prevent the engine from warming up. Yes, the 3.23s will be a little happier in there, too. Unless you have 78 series or LT tires and overdrive, drinking extra gas for no reason, especially these days, isn't worth it if you aren't on the track regularly.