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Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 07, 2009, 04:11:49 PM
Good evening. I stumbled across this forum through moparfins.com, and figured that since I'll be picking up a '59 Saratoga next weekend, I should sign up so that I can ask questions from people who know WAY more about working on these cars than I do :)

Little about myself, I live in Washington state, am married (to a very patient, very giving woman, come on, she's letting me go to SO-Cal to get a project car) and have the most awesome 3 year old. Been in the Military for 8 years now, and can't wait to start showing something a little more respectable than a riced out 04 Cavalier that I used to have. You'll probably be seeing a little more of me when I get the car up here and can't figure something out. Thanks!!!!


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 07, 2009, 05:29:33 PM
Well Welcome there
 
Is that the Saratoga that was running in California with those racing wheel covers?  It was white.  Last I saw it was over 6K
 
Mine was running at the same time.  But mine was half the price
 
[color=#33ff00 size=7]WELCOME[/color]
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Leaburn Patey on June 07, 2009, 06:09:00 PM
Welcome!!

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 07, 2009, 07:13:51 PM
Thanks for the welcomes!!!

Polaraco, I'm pretty sure it's not the same one. My parents picked this one up about 4 years ago in LA and up until last year, it had just been sitting. I got it running when I was down there last summer. It's yellow and white on black steelies :)


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 07, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
Welcome...can't wait for more info and pics....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Per Therkildsen on June 08, 2009, 05:17:26 AM
Welcome......
 
I will warn you these guys in here know just about everything, some of the words i dont even know. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 08, 2009, 09:09:39 AM
That's because yer hangin with a bunch of old farts (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
The cars we own aren't older than us.  LOL
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 08, 2009, 05:06:05 PM
Somehow I get in the groups with all the old farts, and for some reason, I feel like I belong! :) This car is almost twice as old as I am. Here are a couple of pictures of it. Lemme know what you think.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/rob_molloy/000_0005.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/rob_molloy/0701080608.jpg)

The second one I just threw one of the hubcaps on just to see what they looked like on the car. From what I know of the car, the previous owner did a front disk conversion, and the rest is stock (from what I can tell) There are a bunch of parts in the trunk, a couple of horns and the A/C for it are back there, and I don't know if the heater works because there are no hoses hooked up to it. My dad has the shop manual for it, so hopefully this winter, I'll be able to tear it down, get it painted, rebuild the engine, and put in a new wiring harness and it should be GTG with a little TLC! Thanks again for the warm welcome!


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 08, 2009, 05:11:26 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/side1.jpg)
 
Before






(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/FLCar2.jpg)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 08, 2009, 07:20:58 PM
Very nice looking car...Thanks for the pics!!
 
It screams a bit of a color change to me...not sure but a light medium green instead of the yellow and then maybe a cream top and side accent??
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 08, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
If you look close Brian. . . The Saratoga had a paremeter created in stainless strips.  The center was usually painted a darker color and the rest of the car lighter.  Well that's what the 59 brochures show anyway. . .   If you look at my dark blue pic, I have exactly wahtyou are talking about there.
 
My car was painted Medium Green Metalic, then painted again in light blue.  It appears to have been done at the factory.  There were options installed and taped off when it was repainted.  Almost like the foreman spoted the problem too late and sent it back.  I thought it odd as I went through the car.
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/1959-chrysler.jpg)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 08, 2009, 07:36:34 PM
Robs looks like it's a "Spun Yellow"
 
Looks like a real solid Car.  Far better than mine was. . . .
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/FLLRQuarter.jpg)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Jessica on June 09, 2009, 04:22:45 AM
Welcome Rob!
 
My husband has been in the military for the past 5 years. We are currently stationed in Virginia.
 
I like the yellow and white combination. It's not a glaring color. Thanks for posting pictures of your project. I am looking forward to hearing more about the car with your updates when you get if from SO Cal.
 
Jessica
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Robert Rottman on June 09, 2009, 08:02:20 AM
Welcome Rob!!! Glad to have you here with us. Man...You came in with a BANG! Nice 'ol  59 Saratoga!!...Looks like she's been well cared for over the last 1/2 CENTURY. Holy Cow...Nice find and best wishes with her!! Yes please keep us posted with your progress...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif) That's a sweet ride!
 
Welcome Welcome Welcome...
 
Bob
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 09, 2009, 08:25:32 AM
I just think the darker color will show off all the nice chrome and stainless on the car.  It doesn't have the "flash" on the yellow like it would with a darker color.
 
But hey it's your car do with it as you like....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 09, 2009, 10:05:31 AM
I'm trying to figure out a color scheme for it. I saw a real nice pearl'd yellow in a magazine, and I think that, with the cadillac pearl white would look ok. I've also been toying with a dark blue and silver, or red and pearl white...not too sure yet. We'll see what happens.

furyfever- We we're all surprised when my parents found this car in this good of shape. It's been a California car the whole time, so it hasn't seen too much rain. The previous ownder kept it in a shed while he tinkered with it until he sold it. The car is in for a shock when it gets to WA, but it will be garaged and very well taken care of. I plan on keeping this car for as long as possible :)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 09, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
Not liking the red with white accents...too "Christine". How about red with silver accents?

The dark blue with Silver would be sweet.


 
Oh BTW I'm just across the border from Sumas WA in Abbotsford BC....I'm only about an hour or so from Marysville WA...I used to truck down into the USA and aways stopped at "Donnas" truck stop at exit 102? off the I5. 
 
I travel down to WA periodicly so maybe once you get it home I can swing by for a meet and greet on one of my forays down south.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 09, 2009, 04:30:04 PM
I was thinking more white with red accents. My grandfather had a 59 Toga that was that color combination. (long story on why we don't have THAT one. lets just say when I was a kid, we moved to AK and trusted my uncle to take care of it and he didn't :( )

That would be cool to meet up!!! I'll find out this weekend when the car will be up here. It gets loaded up on Saturday, but I don't know how long it will take to be delivered :(

I will have pictures posted after this weekend. I'm hoping they can pick it up in the afternoon so I can cruise around and snap some pictures in the desert :) We shall see.


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: firedome on June 11, 2009, 07:58:13 AM
Welcome !!! Nice car!  I for one like the colors!

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Dan Cluley on June 11, 2009, 06:49:43 PM
I like the subtlety of the pale yellow on a car with a flashy shape and trim.  However the white with red would look good too.  A little more striking without being garish.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on June 12, 2009, 03:12:58 PM
Yeah what my buddy Dan said,You gotta love the red and white!!!!
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 15, 2009, 06:18:27 PM
Well, went to Cali this last weekend, the truck didn't show up...supposed to be there tomorrow now...we shall see. got the beast started, and just like last year, ran a little rough, but I guss a bone stock 50 year old car will do that. Tranny slipping a little, and one of the rear wheel cylinders is leaking, so the brakes don't work. It didn't stop me from crusing around.

This is how I found her:
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs090.snc1/4642_102362095840_716290840_2338279_7859194_n.jpg)

After a quick spin by Autozone:
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs110.snc1/4642_102362100840_716290840_2338280_7312369_n.jpg)

At one of the greatest fast food places in the US
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At a different, decent fast food place
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs110.snc1/4642_102364720840_716290840_2338317_7874283_n.jpg)


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Snotty on June 15, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
Oh, someone had an "In-n-Out urge!!"  Sonic is a good place as well, but they are all accross the U.S., unlike I-n-O.
 
For the slipping transmission, make sure the fluid level is up.  A low trans will slip.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 16, 2009, 05:53:26 AM
Yeah, I live in WA, and we don't have In-n-Out, so I had to hit that up when I was there!
 
I'll be sure to get the tranny flushed and the cooling system flushed when it gets up here. Took it to a couple of shops last year who wouldn't do it because we didn't know how much fluid goes in each. I have an owners manual for it now that I picked up and it has all the fluid levels :)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 16, 2009, 08:52:37 AM
Wouldn't work on it because they didn't know how much fluid went in it!!  That has to be one of the lamest excuses I'm ever heard!!
 
thrashingcows2009-06-16 18:26:25
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 16, 2009, 12:27:15 PM
I know. That's what I kept telling them. They flat our refused because the car was too old and not in their system. They did the oil just fine though.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 16, 2009, 01:28:15 PM
Well you're better off doing these yourself anyways...not that hard to do and you can save yourself a few $$ and learn something at the same time.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2009, 02:09:06 PM
Stay away from the Chains Rob.  Find a good old independant repair shop.  They tend to know more and have better skills.
 
Not in the computer. . .Gimme'   a break.  I have a thorn in my backside about that phrase 
 
You don't want me to (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: steve fogel on June 16, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Snotty never drives past a burger joint without stopping in to sample the wares.   In n Out is great, they make a hamburger that's real close to a homemade boiger.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: steve fogel on June 16, 2009, 02:28:32 PM
Yeah, I love those Tune and Zoom places.   "We don't work on cars that old".   That's because they're flippin Apple II computer only has 128k of RAM and can't search back before 1980.   Also, the recent high school grad, college dropout, or ex-con can't work on anything that you can't plug a diagnostic computer hookup into.   What kinda of a dumbaish doesn't work on a car cause he doesn't know how much fluid went in it?    You shoulda asked him how much fluid was between his ears.
hurst12009-06-16 19:30:26
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 16, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
LOL guys! yeah, it was a bunch of idiots that did (or didn't do) any of the work on my car. The only shop that was able to even tell me anything was a shop that my grandfather had taken his to, but that was for brakes (they couldn't get the parts for the wheel cylinder in time, thus the reason it will need a brake job when it gets here)

An update on shipping, in short, the company that I was trying to ship  with were lying to me for the past month and a half that they had a truck set up, and especially the past 2 days when they said that they were talking to the truck driver because I called another company (this one has the highest rating of all that are rated) and they looked in their little computer and told me that there has never been a truck booked to pick up my car. I quickly shot an email to the first company because they don't answer their phone, to cancel with them, and booked with the new company. It will be a little more money, but if they can get the car picked up, it's already worth it! So I have to wait a little longer to get it up here :(


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 16, 2009, 08:28:53 PM
I've bought two cars, both my C-bodies sight unseen and a long way away so I feel your pain!!
 
I was lucky though the first car was in PA and a guy who was going to the big Carlisle show and swap had an empty car trailer comming back and was looking for a back haul.  The second car was from Wyoming and I eventualy managed to convince the owner to haul it from Wyoming to Seattle and I met him there and hauled it the rest of the way home from there.
 
Good luck!!
 
 
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Jessica on June 17, 2009, 02:23:38 AM
Rob, what company were you originally using? I am supposed to have my 55 fireflite shipped next month, and I hope I don't have the same troubles/same guys! I guess that's the trouble with some of these "larger companies". Most turn out to be a brokerage. Hopefully it works out because I got an excellent price and I am limited as to what I can spend. I also need to get the car here before we move in August!JSands2009-06-17 07:24:29
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 17, 2009, 07:33:59 AM
I was using American Auto Relocation "Professionals" They have some of the worst customer service skills out of anybody I've ever delt with. I would recommend anybody stay away from them!
 
Sorry, I'm still a little ticked right now. My car is still in Cali, sitting in a driveway uncovered for everyone to see, and it's not in the greatest neighborhood :(
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2009, 02:41:56 PM
Sign of the times my friend
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Stan Paralikis on June 18, 2009, 05:16:04 AM
The problem is, we all expect this:
 
(http://websites.carthink.com/admin/Dyimages/1332/1332-464-EXOTICCARTRANSPORT2.jpg)
 
when we areonly willing to paying for this:
 
(http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/macneil/2009/01-09/dodge-parking-lot.jpg)
 
I have never owned Bugattis so I use #2 and ask them to fax me their insurance binder before picking up the car.
 
Next time I'll use Steve and buy him a Pepsi and bring hime to China Buffet (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 18, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
I am counting on number 2. Hell, I don't care if someone with a pickup and trailer tows it up for me, as long as it gets here in the same condition that it's in right now...well, maybe if the guy wants to fix it up along the way, that's cool. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

This new company is SOOOO much better. I'm getting update emails every day on whether a driver has accepted my offer, and has been completely honest on the fact that we may have to raise it $50. Just that good customer service is worth the money in my book.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on June 30, 2009, 07:08:20 PM
Update, the company FINALLY got a driver willing to go out to Hell Centro to pick up my car. Will be loaded up tomorrow morning, and should be here next Tuesday or Wednesday. SCORE!!

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on June 30, 2009, 09:11:48 PM
Wow can't believe the trouble your having...glad it's finaly getting loaded up and will be home soon...keep us posted.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Jessica on July 01, 2009, 02:15:26 PM
I am having World Wide Auto transport my desoto to our new home in Texas in September. Hopefully I won't have as much trouble as you are having. Can't wait to hear about your vehicle finally arriving! :)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 01, 2009, 06:30:04 PM
FINALLY!!!!!

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs107.snc1/4794_108899560840_716290840_2444870_7018106_n.jpg)

Will be dropped of on Monday (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif) I shall sit and wait.


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Jessica on July 04, 2009, 05:27:26 AM
Yay! Congrats!!
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 06, 2009, 02:32:14 PM
Tomorrow morning, will be dropped off at a brake shop, so that I can actually drive it (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif) PARTAY!!!

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 07, 2009, 06:02:49 PM
It's here!!!!!!
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs195.snc1/6574_110915385840_716290840_2481079_4890712_n.jpg)

After a few hours at the shop getting the brake cylinders installed, and brakes bled, got it home. It was a miracle!! They did the brakes, then the generator started working (they fixed the wire for the charging) the power steering started working, and the brake lights started working!!! Everything that wasn't working on the car now works. They also topped off the tranny fluid so the tranny works.....ish....it's leaking in my garage right now...eh...it drives :D Now onto the pics!!!!
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs195.snc1/6574_111139050840_716290840_2484031_3014147_n.jpg)

My two mopars:
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs195.snc1/6574_111139185840_716290840_2484032_4996291_n.jpg)

In the garage! Will had to get into the pic!
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs195.snc1/6574_111134125840_716290840_2483986_6260228_n.jpg)


Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Jessica on July 08, 2009, 07:37:02 AM
Did your recycle bin explode? LOL
Glad to hear see the car is home. Can't wait to hear about the progress! (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: firedome on July 09, 2009, 05:17:51 AM
Great car and color scheme... love those 4 drs!

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Brian on July 11, 2009, 01:47:22 PM
Congrats on getting her home!!!
 
Glad you got it almost all sorted out...now slap on some wheel covers and get cruising!!
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 12, 2009, 04:16:19 PM
Well, I spent the week cleaning glass, polishing chrome, putting 2 of the 4 wheel covers on, and the brakes went out again...I think they just need a really good bleed. She's been a blast to drive. She'll be in her first show next Sunday. I don't care how bad the paint is chipped, I'm still showing her off! 

Does anyone have any pointers on how to stiffen up the play in the steering, or is that just an older car thing that I'll have to deal with?

Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2009, 06:07:08 PM
Congrats. . .My apologies for not commenting sooner. . .I have been sick
 
You better check out the front end to be sure everytthing is tight.
 
The first things to go are the lower bushings.  Always a wise idea to do them.  You'll be glad you did.
 
When you say play, do you mean the steering wheel swings a ways before it grabs or it's too easy to turn?  They are real easy to turn.  But if it's loose feeling, check out the front end real good and we'll go from there.
 
Remember, I have one of these
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2009, 06:07:41 PM
By the way, I have a pile of parts laying around for that. 
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Stan Paralikis on July 13, 2009, 01:43:42 AM
Isn 't there an adjustment nut on the steering box that takes up slack?
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on July 13, 2009, 05:32:52 AM
Yes. . .But what good is it if the rest is loose?  It's a 59!
 
No sence adjusting if it has a bad Idler arm. .  Right?  That's why I said we'd go from there.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 13, 2009, 08:14:24 AM
My bad. There is no play, it's just really easy to turn. I didn't know if it was too loose or anything. Not that I'm complaining, I was just wanting to make sure it's normal :D
 
Also, there was a floor A/C in the trunk, but it's from a mark IV...as far as I knew, these had the AC that came through the dash vents, and I'm suspecting that someone had thrown this in rather than fix the old one (There are NO hoses run to the heater core, nothing coming off the AC compressor) Can someone verify this one for me too? Sorry for all the questions. I will be ordering the shop manual on CD in a couple of days.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Steve on July 13, 2009, 09:38:21 AM
No problem Rod
 
Just as a note. . .let's start posting your questions in the tech sections.
 
There was a dealer ad on unit that hung under the dash.  But it was a Mark IV with a mopar lable.  An aftermarket was allot less money bought outside the dealership.  Chrysler with it's 100% markup.
Title: Hello from WA
Post by: Rob Molloy on July 13, 2009, 04:32:59 PM
Gotcha. No more in this section. Will post further in the tech sections :D Thanks for the help!!!