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Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Chas Knihght on April 07, 2009, 09:41:09 AM
Any suggestions on a kit for a '60 Dodge Seneca?  LMK, thanks Chas
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Steve on April 07, 2009, 10:07:05 AM
My goodness. . .yer bizzy
 
www.aajbrakes.com (http://www.aajbrakes.com)
 
Tell Roger Steve from New Jersey sent you
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Chas Knihght on April 07, 2009, 03:31:29 PM
Thanks for the lead.  Greatly appreciated.
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Jason Medhurst on June 05, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
Does anyone know what else I will have to buy to make this jump from a 68 Newport?
 
I saw that the SSBC kit uses the stock drum spindles and comes with everything else.  No mention that the master cyclinder or booster needs to be changed.
 
Help!
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Steve on June 05, 2009, 12:28:54 PM
I made that jump several times.  I suggest you contact Roger at AAJbrakes.com for that info.  I did the conversion several times but I went with a distribution valve and the appropriate Master Cylinder.  I never did anything with the boosters and they worked fine.
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Snotty on June 05, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
Vick, I swapped my '70 front drums to '71 Disks.  I thought I got a set form a '73 - WRONG!!  However, it all worked well, and sure makes a difference.
 
My point - places like SSB and others will charge you in the 700s for a kit.  You can do it fr a lot cheaper if you find a parts car and swap.  However  - AVOID A '71!!!!
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Snotty on June 05, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
There used to be a collage of photos of the work on my swap on this site.  It was a great tool for what you're asking.  Alas, it vanished.
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Jason Medhurst on June 05, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
If I found a 73 parts car, what would I need?  Are the kits they are offering the disks from a 73?
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Snotty on June 05, 2009, 12:51:35 PM

I take it back - here it is:
 


Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Snotty on June 05, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
No Vick, the kits are made of all-new parts.  They are good, don't get me wrong, but if you have a limited financail budget, getting parts from a wrecked car is a better way to go.  You can also get the prop valve from the donor car as well.
 
I got the parts, then purchased new calipers, rotors, hoses, bearings, and of course, pads.  I had the plates and knuckles blasted clean, and had the axle checked for cracks.  Finally, I purchased a disk-specific master cylinder.  Before I discovered that I had actually got parts from a '71, my total parts cost was less than $400. 
 
However, those '71 disks cost me that alone!
 
Going with a '73 set-up is a cheap, easy way to convert your car.  What you will need to learn, and what I don't know, is if you can use '73 knuckles on your '68.
 
Good luck!
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Jason Medhurst on June 05, 2009, 01:04:09 PM
oh, yes, I know the parts are new, but are they the part numbers for a 73 Chrysler?
 
What parts did you take from the wrecked car?  Just the spindles?
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Butch Houghton on June 06, 2009, 05:34:35 AM
Personally I'll take the 73  factory setup anyday....if you can find it.

You can also use 69-late 72  dics,   the spindle & rotor are the only difference from a late 72-73 setup.     The 69-72 spindle has smaller bearings & thus a specific & costly rotor   the 73 went to a bigger bearing & the rotor is shared with van & trucks for a few years so that's why the rotor is less expensive.     Id' feel comfortable with either setup.

The problem with a lot of the aftermarket stuff is the rotor sizes,  original  C-body rotors were 11.75 X 1.25 thick,  the aftermarkets are only an 11 inch & thinner.   Still an upgrade over drums though & if it was all I could find I'd still do it.

The above will fit all the way back to 65 & uses the same control arms & balljoints as the drum cars those years.    If I found a wreck I'd take the Spindles, Rotors ( might still be in spec ) caliper adaptors,  calipers,  prop valve M/C & Booster if it wasn't to high on price.     See what still good & replace the unusable stuff,  nice to have the originals to compare with new stuff to make sure it's right.   Stuff like Calipers are cheap from a parts house.

I think ECI Brakes has a large rotor with their kit & uses alumium hubs so they might be worth a look too.

Butch


Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Steve on June 06, 2009, 06:14:15 AM
Right
 
The AAJ kit uses a 11" rotor from a B Body.  But it's made to be able to accomodate the 14" stock wheel
Title: Brake Conversion Kits
Post by: Snotty on June 10, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
Quote from: HemiFury
You can also use 69-late 72  dics,   the spindle & rotor are the only difference from a late 72-73 setup.     The 69-72 spindle has smaller bearings & thus a specific & costly rotor   the 73 went to a bigger bearing & the rotor is shared with van & trucks for a few years so that's why the rotor is less expensive.   


 
The main difference is the earlier disk is a two-piece design as opposed to a one-piece of the '73 and later.  Those earlier disks go for $400 and higher.  Avoid them!
 
One more thing.  When you do this, be specific that you are buying calipers for a C Body!  I was originally sold calipers for a B Body - they are too narrow!