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Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 01:19:44 PM
Hi Everyone!
I'm considering pulling the 440 out of the '68 Sport Fury. This will allow me to not only degrease and properly paint the engine, but also to detail the engine compartment. My question is this:

What is the best way pull the engine? I've pulled the engine/trans assembly out of GM vehicles by removing the hood and radiator and using a engine hoist with a crank leveler. BUT I now have access to a lift and I'm thinking it might be easier to unbolt the K member (and everything else required) and lift the body up and off the the engine/trans assembly.

What do you guys think?

Thanks,
Uncle Hulka
PS - My NEW gas tank arrived yesterday. Looks awesome and I can't wait to install it. I will have then replaced the entire fuel system from tank to carburetor. One more system I shouldn't have to worry about!

Woo Hoo!

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Rich on March 18, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
I would unbolt and remove the entire radiator support. (It is pretty easy to to do, only about eight bolts, then you don't have to lift the engine and trans up very high - you can even leave the hood on. Just remember to remove the transmission mount cross beam.

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 18, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
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Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: krautmaster
I would unbolt and remove the entire radiator support. (It is pretty easy to to do, only about eight bolts, then you don't have to lift the engine and trans up very high - you can even leave the hood on. Just remember to remove the transmission mount cross beam.

The radiator support unbolts without having to remove the fenders? Hmmmmmnnn.......

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 03:15:53 PM
That is how the factory assembled them.  The entire subframe was assembled and shoved right in.
 
I did what you are thinking of a couple of years ago on Polaraco.  It's very hard on the ground and doing it by yourself.  But with a lift. . . .
 
That is one way of rebuilding the froont end while it's out. . . Nice and easy.  The Rad support is a good idea, but they don't come out quite that easy. . .   But they will.
 
Let's see
Bumper
wiring
hoses
steering coupler
exhaust
Linkage
6 big bolts and whalaa
 
There's advantages to both ways
 
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 18, 2009, 03:16:13 PM
Since you have access to a lift (you lucky dog) you swap out the drivetrain by:
1. as said above, or
2. alternatively,  remove the hood and drop the tranny crossmember.

Yer choice. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 03:35:40 PM
Well, since I've never undone a K member before.....and I would have to rig up some sort of a cradle to put under the engine.....it might be easier to take it out the conventional way. But with a lift, I can put the car up, undo all the underside connections and bolts and trans crossmember (thanks Krautmaster), lower the car and use the hoist to get it out that way.

Or is the other way better...?

Hmmmmnnnn...

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Alan on March 18, 2009, 05:25:20 PM
I just pulled my engine out yesterday . Did it the traditional way, took the hood off and yanked it out. Left the tranny in so it was pretty easy. 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/143/Coming_out2.jpg)
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
Do you have to pull the trans too?
 
If you don't, just split them.  But mark the flexplate and the converter for polarity.  I mean the bolts are offset on the converter and a bear to match. So you want to match mark the flex plate and converter to match up when you put it back in.
 
Then you don't need to take the rad support out.
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 05:28:39 PM
Heh  We posted the same time Newport.
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Alan on March 18, 2009, 05:49:05 PM
I'm replacing the converter while I have mine out. Why leave a 40 year old converter in when your putting in a new engine? $85 bucks well spent unless you want to end up with strange vibrations like Stan did. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 18, 2009, 06:24:47 PM
Hey Al
 
In case you hadn't thought of it. . . .
 
Front trans seal too
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 19, 2009, 12:50:20 AM

Quote from: 67Newport
I'm replacing the converter while I have mine out. Why leave a 40 year old converter in when your putting in a new engine? $85 bucks well spent unless you want to end up with strange vibrations like Stan did. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

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Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 03:22:19 AM
Just so I'm clear, if I want to pull the engine and trans together, I HAVE to remove the radiator support or is that optional?

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Robert Rottman on March 19, 2009, 06:04:26 AM
Uncle Hulka...As a complete novice, I think think the grille and radiator support would have to come out to pull the motor with the trans. attached...If it was me, I'd take hood off too for extra room. I very well could be thinking with my behind though...Perhaps some pros like Leaburn or Steve (or many others too ) could chime in to confirm...I'll be doing this with my Fury too (motor only)...I pulled the hood off on Monday with help from a friend...I plan on separating the motor from the trans. and pulling it straight up/out. I'm waiting to get a hoist now from a friend. Steve, what did you mean (exactly) by marking the converter/flexplate so when it goes back together you have no vibrations. I'm not sure what you mark...Do you have to begin separation and then get in there and mark something on both the motor and trans ends? Have any photos by any slim chance? Also...as a novice, can I pull a motor by myself?
 
furyfever2009-03-19 10:15:17
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 19, 2009, 06:56:56 AM

You can pull the motor & tranny as one unit (which I prefer) by removing the hood and dropping the tranny crossmember.  I find it a whole lot easier to mate the tranny and the motor outside the car rather than in it.



Removing the radiator support makes it easier to the point the hood does not need to be removed.

In the following picture you can see the four flex plate mounting holes  where it attaches to the torque converter is not an assymetrical square.  It is slightly offset so that each hole is specific to the matching thread hole on the TC.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/jtwizq.jpg)

And yes, any dummy can do it.  Ask anybody here.  We're living proof. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  (Gotcha back, Al.)

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Commando12009-03-19 11:01:51
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 19, 2009, 08:13:59 AM
On my B body, I removed the hood, jacked the car up to gain a little tailshaft clearance for the swing, and used an engine tilter (O-berg brand at the time) to get both engine and trans out in one shot.

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 08:38:32 AM
Unca
 
Where are you in Conn.  Maybe I cn assemble a wrecking team and give you a hand
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 08:40:41 AM
Me thinks that's the direction I'll go in....IF I decide to pull it.

The problem for me will be that once the engine and compartment look good, everything else will look worse! It's an inverse ratio; Right now everything has aged at the same rate. When something is restored or replaced, everything else in the immediate area now looks old and crappy!

I know I'll have to do the engine and compartment at some point. However, once I do it, then I won't be satisfied until everything else has the same 'New' look.

Screw it, I'll pull it and just deal with the consequences.


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 08:46:25 AM

Quote from: POLARACO
Unca
 

Unbelievably generous offer, my friend. Amazing. I think I can do it with the help of a friend or two here.

HOWEVER, you are more than welcome to come up and drink some beer while we do it. Let me know if you're interested and I'll coordinate with you.

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 12:20:05 PM
I won't drink beer. . .But I will throw popcorn and be a armchair quarterback.  LOL  I'm good at that.
 
To answer your question,
 
You don't have to remove the rad support.  You can pull the engine and trans like Bob described.  You need to drop the trans mount anyway.
 
It will require a high lift.  Use a short chain spanning from the bell to the front of the engine.  Criss cross. the engine.  LR to RF sort of thing.  You want to lift more towards the front of the engine so it will allow the tail shaft to drop.  The front of the engine will have to be high to clear the hump.  Once it's up in the air, you can manuver the tail shaft by hand.
 
2 suggestions.
 
1.  Drain all your fluids, including the trans
2.  Have a couple of scraps of plywood arounf to protect the surfaces.  The Rad support is very easy to scratch
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 19, 2009, 01:33:54 PM

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif)

see if your local rental agency or a friendly mechanic has an engine tilter you could borrow/rent....makes life so much easier and safer than prying and shaking the engine hoist....and you get to steer the motor back to level once the car is out from under it....yes it is easier to have the car able to roll away from the hoist than to try and muscle a fully lifted engine backwards...

http://www.thestricklincompanies.com/productdetail.php?product=9 (http://www.thestricklincompanies.com/productdetail.php?product=9)

or the one I use:

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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CQ6G5A?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextag-auto-delta-20&linkCode=asn (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CQ6G5A?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextag-auto-delta-20&linkCode=asn)









Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 03:11:52 PM
All good suggestion, guys. Luckily, I have a friend with a leveler and an engine stand. I am going to buy a good strong one anyway. I'll still borrow his stand and I'll use mine for the engine and his for the trans. Pretty clever, eh?

Yes, I had planned on draining all the fluids especially the trans. I'll save the trans fluid, since it only had about 5 minutes of use since I changed it a couple months ago. The engine oil has about 30 minutes run time on it, but I'll probably start with fresh oil for the coming season.

Polaraco, you and I can drink Diet Coke (or your preferred brand) 'til the cows come home. No problemas, senior. The offer for a visit stands. I think you would enjoy yourself.

Uncle Hulka




Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 19, 2009, 04:48:15 PM
He drinks regular Pepsi...in bottles ONLY (necessary around computers)

I bought a 4 legged engine stand after watching a 3 legger dump a freshly painted, rebuilt 312 '57 T-bird motor while being rolled out of a spray booth.....broke the starter mounting ear off the block(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) The guy was able to weld it back on, but to me that's never the same again...

You could always modify a 3 legger with some good heavy casters and a section of square tubing.....


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 19, 2009, 05:01:25 PM
Stitcherbob, no way in hell I'm going to use a 3-legger with any V-8...ESPECIALLY a Big-Block. Advice appreciated nonetheless.

BTW, I am guessing a 440 weighs around 800lbs. Am I way off?

BTW, you can come too!

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Alan on March 19, 2009, 05:23:19 PM
The shipping weight for my 383 long block was 591. Add on 150lbs for all the running gear and your at at least 750 fully dressed.
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 21, 2009, 06:59:08 PM

UNRELATED UPDATE!!!!

This morning I finally had the time to install the new fuel tank.

WOO HOO!

I was able to take it out for a nice, regrettably brief cruise to put some ethel in the tank. The change from 2.76 to 3.23 gears was a definite improvement. You guys were right, this car has some nice acceleration! Of course, now I'm thinking "Hmmmmnnn. Maybe a 3.90 ratio would be pretty cool".

Dear God, I'm out of freakin' control.

I noticed a fairly significant leak from the steering box at the top hose fitting. In my FSM it shows 3 O-rings that are probably to blame for the leak. I haven't removed them yet, but are they hard to find or are they a auto parts store item?

Still haven't decided whether it's worth all the work to pull the motor
for detailing when I'm a long ways away from bodywork and a paint job.

Anyway, just keeping you guys updated on my progress.

Uncle Hulka2009-03-21 23:00:47
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Leaburn Patey on March 21, 2009, 07:12:42 PM
The 3:91's will be fun--for the first few runs.
Then it will get costly in gas and the buzzing of the engine does get tiring after a while.IMO

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 21, 2009, 09:52:59 PM
Those o rings can be sized and bought....just make sure you get that valve centered just like it was or your steering will want to "self steer". A spritz of spray paint over the valve could help locate it back to where it was.




Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2009, 04:01:03 AM

Quote from: stitcherbob
Those o rings can be sized and bought....just make sure you get that valve centered just like it was or your steering will want to "self steer". A spritz of spray paint over the valve could help locate it back to where it was.




Great tip, Stitch, but I thought the O rings were located between the hose fitting and the adjustable block on the steering box. That's what it looked like in exploded views. Am I mistaken?

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 22, 2009, 07:47:25 AM


Mistaken? No there's o-rings on both....here's the shop manual page I have (this is 1966)

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/10/img143.jpg)

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stitcherbob2009-03-22 11:50:14
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Jason Goldsack on March 22, 2009, 08:34:08 AM
I have 3.91 in my Big Block Aspen.. it gets old REALLY quick... 3500 at 65mph... versus the 2500 at 65mph with the 2.76 in my C and a Big Block....

The noise alone will drive you nuts...


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2009, 03:41:02 PM
Great Advice Stitch. Also thanks for the thoughts re 3.91 gears. It was just a brief indulgent thought. I had a 1970 Chevelle SS454 LS6/M22 back when they were within reach of mortal folks (early 80's). It had 4.56 gears and was OH-MY-GOD scary quick. Fun wore off after about 2 months and I sold it.

On a different topic, while cleaning my basement today, I found photocopies of 3 musclecars I owned back then (did I mention I'm obsessive?). Anyway, there was one for my first 1970 Chevelle SS454 LS6/M22 (this one had 3.73 gears), one for a 1969 Chevelle SS396 L35/M21 and one for my second 1968 Road Runner! Here are the details as written on the Dealer Invoice:

Make: Plymouth
Year: 1968
Model: road Runner
Body Style: 2-dr. htp.
Serial No.: RM23-H8A-219XXX
Optional Equipment And Accessories:
Light Pkg.
Sure Grip Differential
Head Restraints L-R
Sill Mouldings
Radio w/Rear Speaker
Shoulder Belts
Foam Rubber Seat Front
Arm Rests with Ash Tray
Sport Steering Wheel
Tachometer
Undercoating (factory)
Road Wheels
3 Spd. Wipers
Accent Stripe
Hi Perf. Axle
4 Speed Transmission
Red Streak Tires

PRICE OF CAR: 3690.40
DOCUMENTARY FEE: 10.00
SALES TAX: 66.10
DELIVERED PRICE: 3766.50
TOTAL CASH PRICE: 3766.50
CASH ON DELIVERY: 1936.10
USED CAR: 1830.40
1966 Plymouth Satellite 2-dr.htp. RP23-F61-218XXX
TOTAL: 3766.50

The original owner lived at the bottom of my street. The car had sat in his front yard behind the hedges for a LONG time. After selling my first Road Runner I started to miss it. I figured what did I have to lose. I knocked on his door and flat out asked him if he was interested in selling his Road Runner. He said that just that morning he was considering putting it up for sale. WOW! Freaky!!

He told me he had put a Racer Brown cam in it a long time a go and it was pretty lumpy. He told me if I wanted the car, I could have it for $1,200.

Just sharing that story made me a little sad. I miss all the cars I've had.

Hope I didn't bore you.


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 22, 2009, 04:26:17 PM


No you can't bore us talkin 'bout Roadrunners!
I purchased mine from an ad in the paper in 1982 for $800.....!!!!!
Try and find a #'s matching one today for 4 times that! It needed interior and climate control parts, so when a family friend told me that the druggie down the street from her was parting out a 69 RR, I jumped! He let me grab the factory tach, a load of interior parts, steering wheel, 4 spd column cup, and heating system for.........ready?  $25 !!!
Ah, to be a teenager again!



stitcherbob2009-03-22 20:34:57
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2009, 04:49:56 PM
$25 American Dollars? If he wasn't a druggie, I'd call you a thief. Well, maybe not a thief. Perhaps just one lucky SOB!:-)

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on March 22, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
That was back when no one cared about parts...all he was banking on was the 440 engine (not original) bringing him beer money...

Looking back I should have taken the whole carcass. But then I was a teen with no garage or place to keep it. When another parts car came along (69 Sport Satellite hardtop 318 3 on the tree and a 3.23 sure grip) I was able to put it at my grandmother's garage (later to become my shop of the last 20 years!) to strip it.....that really helped fill the parts bins!


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 09, 2009, 04:03:37 PM
(sigh)



Last Saturday, I removed the control valve body to replace the two O-rings. they were very hard and FLAT. I thought they were supposed to be flat, but my friend thought they were regular O-rings that had just taken a set.

I went to the local hardware store and sized them the best I could.

I installed them, started the engine and instead of a annoying leak.....I now had a HEMORRHAGE!!!

Anyone have an idea what I did wrong? What are the RIGHT O-rings and where can I get them?


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on April 09, 2009, 04:19:18 PM

they were made flat..... visit a trans shop and maybe they'll sell some

the other alternative is to get a shift improver kit...they will be in there. NAPA lists one cheaper than B&M.
stitcherbob2009-04-09 21:26:25
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 10, 2009, 07:33:57 AM
Thanks, Stitcherbob! But just to be clear, you know I'm talking about the power steering box, right?

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 10, 2009, 07:56:02 AM
Bob was up late last night photochopping.  Forgive him.....

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stitcherbob on April 10, 2009, 03:07:51 PM

Quote from: Uncle Hulka
Thanks, Stitcherbob! But just to be clear, you know I'm talking about the power steering box, right?


nope....that's what happens with the "new post" button....I thought it was a trans question (valvebody....ya dig?) but that makes it easier...just get a NAPA guy to go through his square O-ring boxes....I don't know if the green a/c ones will work

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 12, 2009, 02:28:16 PM


Sorry for the delay in replying, but other obligations held my attention.

Thanks for clarifying, Stitch. I will get on that ASAP and will, as always, report success or failure.

Wow. I've had this annoying leak since I've had the car. If this cures it, I think I'll miss wiping up the garage floor and keeping a little bag of speedy-dry in the car to clean up after a public display of autoincontinence (I think I just made up a new word for cars that leak/drip. Woo Hoo!)

Uncle Hulka2009-04-12 19:29:48
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 12, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
change the return hose while you're at it.
 
I thnk a piece of 3/8 high pressure fuel line will work nicely.  I believe that's what I used. 
 
When you put the top back on, you need to center that so the wheels don't turn them self.  It's real easy to do.  Initially feel it to center.  Jack both front wheels off the ground and finish it with it running.  Tighten and you're done.  But have a pan under the box to catch the leakage will tweaking it
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 18, 2009, 05:13:57 PM
*****UPDATE*****

So far no more steering box leak....WOO HOO!!! Thanks for all the info and support.

I also noticed something interesting. There is no fan shroud installed.

Should there be one and if so, anyone know where can I find one?

Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 18, 2009, 07:53:53 PM
Does it have Air Conditioning?  If it doesn't fan shrouds weren't used and you have a 4 blade fan.  If it does have A/C, you should have one with a clutch fan.
 
What model is this again?  I forget (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 19, 2009, 06:45:24 AM
You forget? After all we've been through, you forget? Oh Polaraco, where did we go wrong?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

All kidding aside it's a 68 Sport Fury Conv. without A/C. I'm pretty sure it has more than 4 blades. 5 blades seems right, off the top of my head. I was just thinking a shroud would help keep it cooler.


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 19, 2009, 03:36:38 PM
A shroud won't hurt.  5 Blade would be a later car, like a 72 or 73 small block with Air.  If the blades are flexible, then someone swapped it
Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 25, 2009, 03:47:14 PM
It has a 7-blade fan and I think that's correct (maybe 440-only?). Here's a picture from the 1968 Plymouth Fury brochure that supports this belief.

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/126/1968_Plymouth_Fury-30.jpg)


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2009, 07:02:02 AM
**********UPDATE**********

I took her out for a little cruise yesterday. It was fun, but surprise surprise, there are some issues that need to be addressed.

1) Transmission shifts are long and not very positive. Although I must say she does accelerate hard.

2) When I'm applying my brakes while driving at low speed, the engine will sometimes just stop for a split second and sometimes stall.. It doesn't do thins if I'm moving in neutral, so it's like the trans or torque converter isn't releasing properly (related to shift issue?)

3) When I start the car cold, when the engine just starts to run, the car lurches forward a bit. I don't think it does it when its warmed up but I could be wrong. Kind of odd. (Could all these transmission issues be related?).

4) When I got back home, I could smell the brakes. I then saw little wisps of smoke coming from the passenger-side rear wheel. I installed new brake shoes all around and installed new brake springs. Also cleaned everything up in the self adjuster. What causes brake drag like this? Do I need new wheel cylinders?

BTW, I ordered a complete set of shocks for the car (gas up front, air in the rear). Those will arrive Tuesday. If I need new wheel cylinders, now would be a good time to do them and get it over with so I can CRUISE!!!

If anyone has any thoughts on what is going on, I would appreciate any help!

Thank you so much,
Uncle Hulka


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Stan Paralikis on April 26, 2009, 08:15:53 AM

Quote from: Uncle Hulka
4) When I got back home, I could smell the brakes. I then saw little wisps of smoke coming from the passenger-side rear wheel. I installed new brake shoes all around and installed new brake springs. Also cleaned everything up in the self adjuster. What causes brake drag like this? Do I need new wheel cylinders?

BTW, I ordered a complete set of shocks for the car (gas up front, air in the rear). Those will arrive Tuesday. If I need new wheel cylinders, now would be a good time to do them and get it over with so I can CRUISE!!!

If anyone has any thoughts on what is going on, I would appreciate any help!



RE: rear brakes
How freely did the tire turn when you gave it a spin with your hand after everything was buttoned up?
Is the E-brake fully disengaged?
Bled properly?

RE: rear air shocks
I just put on a pair to compensate for the ass dragging.  No money to do it properly (i.e. new leafs (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif) ).
Check, double check, triple check the air lines.  Damn near impossible to keep them from leaking down.
Try and mount the TEE fitting with the fill valve in the trunk.  Filling it up from the underside gets tired reall quick.
Pump'em to 55#.  I find above that to ride like a one ton pickup.


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on April 26, 2009, 10:22:07 AM
Good advice! I wish I had the moolah for new rear springs, but not right now.

I thought I spun the rears after installing the SG diff, but I don't trust my memory anymore. Regardless, I just this second returned home from NAPA with 4 new wheel cylinders and two rear brake self adjuster rebuild kits (one kit per wheel). This should hopefully take care of my (latest) brake issues.

Any thoughts on what's going on with my trans? Don't know if it makes a difference, but it is a 1971 TF, not a '68.

Oh, on my brief cruise yesterday I learned two other things:

1) The original AM radio works perfectly!
2) I forgot how much I hate AM radio! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gif)


Title: What's the best way to pull an engine?
Post by: Steve on May 02, 2009, 05:04:55 AM
I worked on the Fury last night and discovered/rediscovered a pretty serious electrical problem I can't figure out. I'm going to start a new thread in the Electrical section since it's not really engine related. I'll title it "Serious Brake Circuit Problem"

Hope to see you guys there.......