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Techical Discussions => Tech- - Engine => Topic started by: firedome on December 05, 2008, 02:24:57 PM

Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: firedome on December 05, 2008, 02:24:57 PM
As a former turbodiesel owner and Chemistry maven, I'm always
interested in oil chemistry and lubrication technology, so here's
something I stumbled across in my reading that is one of the best
summaries I've yet seen on current and relevant engine oil parameters
and their application:



http://www.turbodieselregister.com/TDR57_Oil.pdf



btw:  API spec testing requires that all diesel oils that receive
their certification are suitable for use in passenger cars as well as
diesel trucks.  I'm now using Cummins/Valvoline Premium Blue CI-4+
in my cars... far superior to Rotella T CJ-4, according to this!

 

Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 05, 2008, 04:33:53 PM
Roger-Doger
You oughta read what  'Rotelly' said about that article, and how superior the Triple T is!
 
I was trying to find out how much flat tappet zinc ZDDP retuction was in the new forumlated CJ- oil?  Took a while, but i finally got it out of 'Rotelly' how much Zinc ZDDP reduction they did.
If I can find it I'll copy and paste.
 
There is another one of those diesel web sites that STRONGLY, do NOT reccomend using 'diesel' CJ- oils in gasoline motors because of the soot,ash additives in CI/CJ oil!
 
Most old car sites RECCOMEND using either ZDDPlus or Diesel oils becaus the of the high(er) zinc content  CI still has the high zinc ZDDP.  CJ has reduced amounts, but still good enough for older Diesel/gas flat tappet motors!
 
Older 12 valve Cummins ('98 back) require that zinc protection.
 
Problem, around here that 'Rotelley Triple T stuff is all you can get cheaply! 
I have NEVER seen any of that Cummins Valvoline stuff. Even though Valvoline SM- oils are the most popular for gas motors!
Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: firedome on December 06, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
"zactly! They show on the chart the amounts of zinc, moly, boron, calcium, TBd and what all...

s'possed to have around 1400-1500 ZDDP for flat tappets...  they
sell Valvoline Premium Blue+ (CI-4+) n my local Auto Zone -
$11.49/gal.  I use Casrtorl GTX or Valvoline in the newer roller
cam cars...



Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 07, 2008, 03:04:42 PM
AUTO-Zone! ALLwe got around here, is Advanced!
They sell 'Rotelley' for $10 ($9. something|) a gallon!
I supose the Cummins place two towns away will sell that Cummins/Valvoline oil,,,,,, but the price will probably be double of that, what Advanced sells.
 
Wonder who else (discount place) sells that C/V Blue?
Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: firedome on December 08, 2008, 03:33:26 AM
Anyone notice that the price of oil has NOT dropped by 60% the way gasoline has???

Hardly gone down at all. Hmmm.....



Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 08, 2008, 06:36:52 AM
And my propane bill is still huge at $3.73 a unit.....

Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on March 12, 2009, 03:55:11 AM
Roger-Doger!  I sent you a PM on what your opnion is of running a 'Dodge' oil in a 'Ford'  LOL!
 
Wifey bought a low mileage F-450 to pull her and middle daughter's horsey trailer.
Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Stan Paralikis on March 12, 2009, 05:19:51 AM

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http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-Premium-Extreme-Synthetic-gallon/dp/B000FOJSQ8

Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on March 13, 2009, 05:03:44 AM
WHEW!  $35. gallon is HIGH!
 
Don't really need that fake oil.  Good old 'dino' will work just fine!
 
Hey Roger!  Where you at?
Title: Great engine oil article
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on March 13, 2009, 05:46:56 AM
Roger, I went into Auto Zone's web site, looking for the nearets store to me,,,,,,,,,.  To get some of the Cummins Valvoline.
 
According to their web site, they don't handle that cummins Val oil?