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Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Alan on November 27, 2008, 12:25:53 PM
I want to replace my brake booster but I'm not sure how to tell what I have. It seems there are several choices. With or without bracket, and field or factory installed. I'm not sure what "bracket" they are referring to, and how can I tell if it was factory or field installed?    
 
Any ideas?
Thanks
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Matt Aker on November 27, 2008, 12:55:05 PM
That's an awful lot of questions for a brake booster on a '67 Chrysler.  When I needed one for my '68 is was a question of drum or disc brakes.  You need a new parts guy...
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 27, 2008, 02:00:20 PM
go here: http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/catalog/ (http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/catalog/)

http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/Catalog/NAPA_ECAT/1966/Chrysler/Newport/6.3+L+383+CID+V8/3/3002/ (http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/Catalog/NAPA_ECAT/1966/Chrysler/Newport/6.3+L+383+CID+V8/3/3002/)

they listed 1966 even when I put in 1967, so maybe try 1968 as your year.....65 = 66, 67 = 68


Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 27, 2008, 02:03:04 PM
yes 1968 works

http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/Catalog/NAPA_ECAT/1968/Chrysler/Newport/6.3+L+383+CID+V8/3/3002/# (http://www.dmauto.com/web/dmauto/Catalog/NAPA_ECAT/1968/Chrysler/Newport/6.3+L+383+CID+V8/3/3002/#)

field vs factory installed & bracket is listed





Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 02:37:08 PM
Matt,he is right.
There are two boosters used.
Midland Ross which has the check valve going into the top of the booster at an angle,and has a band around it that keeps it together
and the Bendix type which has the check valve going in side of its flat face ,and the halfs are crimped together
 
The only time you see a pair of brackets behind the booster on a C is when the booster was dealer installed on a non-power brake C.
Chrysler actually had a part number for the "field installation"  or dealer install booster (3004610 for C body) and the Midland Ross was  used-same one as the A body cars.
Factory installed power brake units do not have any brackets at all--just the flat plate it is bolted onto from behind the dash.
I had both style of boosters on C's I owned in the past.My '68 VIP had the Midland Ross with Drum brakes.Both of my 68 Chryslers have drum brakes and Bendix boosters.
Confused yet?
Well,Budd disc brake equipped cars had the Bendix booster that looks THE same as the Midland Ross.
Bottom line is when you are sure of which one to get,make sure the guy on the other side of the counter knows what you are talking about.
Pics at eleven............
 
 
 
 
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 27, 2008, 03:15:47 PM
See, AL?  I told you these guys were the best!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
Quote from: MoparMatt
That's an awful lot of questions for a brake booster on a '67 Chrysler.  When I needed one for my '68 is was a question of drum or disc brakes.  You need a new parts guy...
 
Commando12008-11-27 20:18:48
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:16:28 PM
Midland Rosss with drum brakes....

Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:18:28 PM
Bendix with drum brakes:

Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:20:37 PM
Bendix booster with Budd Disc Brakes

Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:44:44 PM
This is for an A body.It clearly shows the brackets your parts guy is asking about.
Note the use of the Midland booster..

Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:47:19 PM
THe beauty of the Midland Ross unit is it can be easily rebuilt.
There are people who specializes in rebuilding them.
 

Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 27, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
Here is a Midland Ross unit I saved from the Sister Donor Car I parted out (68Newport Custom 2 door )
It eventually migrated to Joisey and was donated to the VOAB project!


Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Alan on November 28, 2008, 03:10:08 AM
Great info, thanks Cbarge,
I'm going to go with the Midland Ross. It looks identical, has the same mounting bracket on the engine side of the firewall, and correct vacuum port location. Thats enough points for me to give it a try.
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Steve on November 28, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)Take it easy boys. . .He's new
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Alan on November 29, 2008, 01:24:40 PM
Hey, whats wrong with working at autozone???? I get a good discount on my crappy foreign made parts.
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Alan on December 01, 2008, 09:16:15 AM
Update on the brake booster. 
 
I found a tag on the bottom. After gingerly cleaning it up so I could read it, it says.....
Chry-Dodge-Ply
L.H.D.
1967-C
C-4212-C
 
Will that help define what I have?
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Matt Aker on December 01, 2008, 12:21:14 PM
Quote from: 67Newport
Hey, whats wrong with working at autozone???? I get a good discount on my crappy foreign made parts.
 
Nuttin' wrong with being a parts guy Al, I did it for ten-years.  I never "got in the zone" though.... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
I miss the people the most, when you figure out their problem you are a saint to them.  Sell them the wrong part and you're a (insert expletive here).  I have tons of stories...  I DON'T miss making hydraulic hoses but mixing paint was always interesting.
 
I made a lot of good friends across the parts counter over the years.
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Matt Aker on December 01, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
Oh, the Midland Ross was probably the most commom booster found on C's from that time.  Both of my drum brake cars ('66 & '68) had one.  My '68 NYer was a Budd disc car (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Leaburn Patey on December 01, 2008, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: 67Newport
Update on the brake booster. 
 
I found a tag on the bottom. After gingerly cleaning it up so I could read it, it says.....
Chry-Dodge-Ply
L.H.D.
1967-C
C-4212-C
 
L.H.D. would be for Left Hand Drive.
Since C's were built down in Austrailia as well at that time.
The 1967 C is self explainitory.
Not sure what the last set of gumbers are.
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Doug on December 02, 2008, 10:36:46 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)    Did you  figure it out  yet  ????
Title: 67 Newport Brake Booster
Post by: Alan on December 02, 2008, 01:28:48 PM
Nope, I'm guessing the 4212 is possibly a run number. I'll let you know when I get the new one if I picked the right one.  67Newport2008-12-02 18:29:47