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Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on November 17, 2008, 05:46:38 AM
I've read some discussions here before about FL and taken the warnings to heart. However, I've also continued to visit over there and be careful about any posts/threads etc. I just have to share this with you guys though. There's a guy over there that's looking to trade his 57 Belv. so I e-mailed him. He got back to me promptly and wrote a nice e-mail describing his car, what he's done to it...All sounded well and normal. I replied and told him what I have to trade and if he wasn't interested that would be fine and almost expected....so I asked him if he'd be willing to sell his car if  that's case. After my e-mail to him with some attached photos of my 70 Fury & 70 Chevy P-Up (apparently he's into Chevys by his screename), he didn't reply....I gave him about 4-5 days and then e-mailed him again...I kept it short...two sentences...saying "I haven't heard back from you just wondering what you thought" etc. He then replied with a duplicate of his first e-mail. I e-mailed back thinking he made a mistake? I promptly got the same reply, a duplicate of his first e-mail. Then I got the message, so I gave up. Is being a buffoon an epidemic over there? Why must people be rude? I find it just the opposite over here and this experience made me appreciate you guys even moreso..Thanks again to all you Moparfin guys for always being so helpful and decent. Thank you, Bob furyfever2008-11-18 18:55:42
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 09:44:58 AM
It could be because you are affiliated with Mopar Fins
 
I know that have a spy in here, most have been eliminated.  It's just a shame they are so narrow minded.  If you are not a Wanna Bee, or a 10 time looser, and a keyboard Bully, then you can't be part of the click.
 
Leaburn and I are watching a new member right now we suspect.
 
We have our ways.  And it's all because of you guys are associated with me because I was protecting a very close friend
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Snotty on November 17, 2008, 09:49:17 AM
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Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Snotty on November 17, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
Just kidding!  The program would not let me simply submit an empty page.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on November 17, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
He's been flogging that car for a long time - as I recall he's
interested only in muscle car trades, and already turned down
some...  steer clear...

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 10:26:59 AM
Bob
 
I have an idea. . . .
Invite him to join Fins.  That will turn him. . . . .
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 10:28:04 AM
I got a better idea.  Have Nathan join. . .  Then let him getm into it here and we'll just fry his butt and nail it to the barn door.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 17, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
that would be just as bad as having IRA (TE) in here(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)

Someday, somewhere, somehow, someone will introduce Nate's head to a Louisville Slugger....


Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 17, 2008, 04:36:42 PM
Yep yer right.  But Ira wouldn't last 5 seconds in here.
 
Nate I would suck in and then nail him.  I'd love to see the expression on his face if someone invited him to join. . if he hasn't already. . . .  
 
Speaking of
 
Leaburn, I took care of that one already
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 17, 2008, 08:10:34 PM


 
Nate I would suck in and then nail him.  I'd love to see the expression on his face if someone invited him to join. . if he hasn't already. . . .  
[/QUOTE]


See thru the compooter? Sounds like the Red Green sketch with  the animal control officer Garth Hargle....

"I hate my boss. I hope he dies before me. I can't wait to see the look on his face when I don't show up at his funeral...."

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif)



stitcherbob2008-11-18 01:11:57
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on November 18, 2008, 01:47:40 PM
This guy keeps e-mailing me the same thing he sent the first time (the description of his 57 Belv). He's done it four X now. He's not only a buffoon but he has alzheimers too. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 18, 2008, 02:52:23 PM
Just forget it.
We have set enough bridges on fire....
You will find your fins car.You will know when it hits you..
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on November 23, 2008, 04:45:01 PM
You guys missed the big verbal volley-ball fight that went on between the TWO Christine clubs.  Nathan "D" Manning, deleted them.
 
One movie, one car, but there are two clubs, two websites,,,,,,,,.  Like a bunch of kiddies squabbling over which end of the sand box to feces in!
 
Hobby you got a 'spy',,,,,? Ohhh,,,,, anyone I know?
 
Bobby, what is the adfor this car, I'll got look at it, see if "I"  can get a responce,,,,,,(?)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 23, 2008, 04:59:42 PM
Who cares Rick. . .Forwardlook.net is the laughing stock of the internet.  You'd think it was an in prision forum the way they act.
 
Bunch of children who's mommies took their pacifier away too soon.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 23, 2008, 05:00:39 PM
Quote from: CBarge
Just forget it.
We have set enough bridges on fire....
You will find your fins car.You will know when it hits you..
 
Lea
Frankly, that is a bridge that needs to be dynamited.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on November 24, 2008, 02:28:32 AM
Title:Yes still looking
Author: badbelair
Under: For Sale Vehicles.
 
furyfever2008-11-24 07:29:04
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on November 24, 2008, 05:01:04 AM
Tell him to knowck it off.  You shouldn't have to go through that
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on November 24, 2008, 06:22:18 AM
Bobby, I posted a responce,,,,,,.  See what he sez,,,,,
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on November 29, 2008, 04:13:44 PM
Thanks Rick, I just noticed your reply on FL and now here. Thanks a lot....I really appreciate that. That's the way to do it....expose this ridiculous behavior so others can see him for what he really is.
 
Bob 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: shawn payne on December 05, 2008, 03:33:32 AM
im in florida.........did i miss something??? im not a spy btw........or am i....................
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 05, 2008, 05:04:43 AM
Quote from: 1bad68fury
im in florida.........did i miss something??? im not a spy btw........or am i....................
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
I made the wrong assumption at first also.
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 05, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: 1bad68fury
im in florida.........did i miss something??? im not a spy btw........or am i....................
 
Guilty Concious?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
I just left Florida this morning.  In NC now
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 05, 2008, 08:01:42 PM
Is that why there's mass evacuations in NC on da news? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 06, 2008, 09:01:24 PM
Probably, I went through real Red Neck territory today. 
 
It was difficult watching Granny drop a bead on my forehead with that double barrel. 
Bet the Boiys in FL feel right at home
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 07, 2008, 06:43:13 AM

Quote from: POLARACO
Probably, I went through real Red Neck territory today. 
 
It was difficult watching Granny drop a bead on my forehead with that double barrel. 


Now, she didn't go an' catch you out in the henhouse agin?

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: shawn payne on December 07, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
ok really, whats the deal with us guys in fl???  i missed something
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 07, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
You want the truth or the nice answer? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Actually it's just a few who are destroying the site.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Johnny D. on December 07, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
not florida... foreward look the mopar style site where the pot calls the kettle fat... 

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 08, 2008, 03:53:37 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
not florida... foreward look the mopar style site where the pot calls the kettle fat... 
 
Thanks Mobby
 
A sledge just hit me in the forehead.
 
FL= Forward Look  forum  Bunch of schmucks
 
The only reason we would trash Florida is because they can't count votes and Stan lives there. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 08, 2008, 04:58:04 AM
Back to the subject...ignorring this guy does not help. He continues to send me the same "form" e-mail. Dimented? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) Depleted of brain cells? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif) I think so. I see he has not replied to your question of him Rick....(on FL site) I'm glad they have him and we don't....
Bob
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Johnny D. on December 08, 2008, 02:46:53 PM
cite the email as spam and it'll go to that bin instead of your main inbox. then you can just clean the spam folder once in a while.

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 08, 2008, 05:38:28 PM
--------------------------------------------------------
 
Bobby here is the responce I got,,,,  He sez for you to contact him again.
(notice the 'here' spelling)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 09, 2008, 04:15:41 AM
Thanks Rick, I knew this would happen...didn't think it would be this quick though...and I still don't think this explains anything or could even have been "the one". It's too late...I'm having a brand new one built for me at MLC. As I've explained before, ten years of looking is enough...I've scrimped and saved...my wife is 100% behind me...my financial planner said go for it...so I did...yesterday I sent off the contract and check....My looking is over. This is definitely not the first time for something like this. Many people post their stuff for sale and then forget about it....or do nothing  to respond to interested buyers. Thanks for your help though. I won't forget it... 
 
Bob
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 09, 2008, 05:51:29 AM
Bob:
Let me be first to congratulate you for taking the big step.  And everyone's behind you, too.  All the better. You're basically living ever man's fantasy.  Spec out YOUR dream car to the pros.
 
So.  Give us the details.  What are they building you???
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 09, 2008, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: Commando1
Bob:
Let me be first to congratulate you for taking the big step.  And everyone's behind you, too.  All the better. You're basically living ever man's fantasy.  Spec out YOUR dream car to the pros.
 
 
You are a class act Stan.....Thank you for the support. I know most of you don't know the extent of my search for this Finned Plymouth. I've thought about "settling" for other Finned Mopars too as most of you know....It (57 or 58 Plymouth) really has been my dream car for a long long time now...I've passed on them....lost out on them....couldn't get to them in time....way before I even became a member here.  Anyways...your support is much appreciated. MLC from what I've heard from several now....builds quality cars....It is promised to be a #1 car when done. They have both Movie Christines there and are restoring them as we speak. I finally got up enough guts to pull the trigger!! Major milestone (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)! I have faith that they will not dissapoint me. Here's what I have ordered:
 
1958 Plymouth Christine totally rebuilt from the ground up (rotisserie resto.)
318 ci. poly. correct for year w/ dual 4 barrel Edelbrock carbs.
3 speed torqueflite auto. (push button) trans.
150 MPH speedo
Power steering
Power (4) disc brakes
Sportone trim
Bumper wings
Fender skirts (not compliant with Christine...but I don't care...I like skirts)
Dual rear power antennas (not compliant with Christine...but I don't care...I like dual rear antennas)
Tinted glass (not totally sure about going through with this yet)
Dual side view mirrors
Chrome interior package
CD player in glovebox
Come to life package (touch driver door handle, all lights come on, radio comes on and CD plays "Keep on knockin' but you can't come in"
 
Should have it by my 50th Birthday (Nov 2009) barring any setbacks/disasters...in other words......God willing.
 
I'm extremely excited....Progress photographs should be e-mailed to me every 3 weeks or so. I'm sure they will keep me drooling (profusely)
 
Thanks again for your interest/support Stan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 09, 2008, 10:07:32 AM
WAY TO GO IDAHO(E)!!!!!!
 
OK let me point out something to you now, so you won't be sorry down the road.
318 'Fury' motor had WCFB carbs, not AFB's
AFB's work better anyway!  Especaially if they are chrome!
The 4wDB,  are they using Roger's AAJ kit on the rear tapered axle?
(Sigh) I, personmally do not liek the tapered axle, rears,,,,,,.
B body, Road Runner, Superbird, Super B, etc is the closest (slightly narrorer|) to what the outside drum face to drum face measurment.  E-body is slightly wider, but anything Cuda or Challenger is cubic $$$$.
 
There are some that prefer the tpered axle,,,,,,, some don't
Now is the time to swap it out,,,,
Also, find out where the e'brake is gonna be?
OM was on the back of the tranny.  If you go B or E body 8 3/4 rear the e'brake can be back on the 'hind' end.
Then you can swap in a later 318 OD trans, (forget the #) with a steeper rear end ratio for launches at the drive in  LOL
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 09, 2008, 10:44:37 AM
The reason I opted for the Edelbrock 4's: Although they will not be original equipment, I've been told that they are more dependable than the original Carters...plus a big savings...allowed me to get some of the other options that I really want. The 4 way power discs? Not sure about this tapered axle thing your talking about. I'm not up on rear end stuff. I'm reasonably sure the car is going to have the original rear end, just rebuilt. The discs are from a kit that MLC has installed on numerous restos. by the sounds of it. As far as I know the e-brake is staying where it was originally. I will ask to make sure though. When this car is done....it will be done. There will be no swaps or upgrades for at least as long as I own it....That's why I'm doing this...so I can drive it and enjoy it....No more sweating my brains out....No more getting greasy....No more smashing open my knuckles....and No more getting mad, swearing and throwing my tools... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif). Been there.....done that....sick of it (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)  Thanks, Bob furyfever2008-12-09 20:15:21
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 09, 2008, 12:07:23 PM
,,,,you throw stuff too,,,,?
Kids and wifwey swears up and down they are going to get one of those metal detecters,and go down into the woods and gather up the stuff I have thrown in fits of anger. LOL
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 09, 2008, 12:32:32 PM
Bob
 
See if this helps you understand what a tapered rear axle is.
 
http://www.moparfins.com/Repairs/Rear_Drum_Removal/Rear_Drum_Removal.htm (http://www.moparfins.com/Repairs/Rear_Drum_Removal/Rear_Drum_Removal.htm)
 
The AAJ Kit Alumidud is refering to makes it so you can have rear disc brakes and never have to pull the taper hub again
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 09, 2008, 03:08:21 PM
Thanks Steve...never had a 55-64 Mope so I never knew about that tapered shaft and drum/hub assy. I definitely would have thrown some tools around working on those. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) Wouldn't that make an extremely "American Funniest Home videos? I understand what Rick is saying now. I'll ask MLC more about it....Edwin at  MLC said the E-brake is staying where it's at...unless I want to make some changes...That never costs less...never in my experience anyways...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) furyfever2008-12-09 20:16:56
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 09, 2008, 05:47:20 PM
Just for your info  it's www.aajbrakes.com (http://www.aajbrakes.com)  The owners name is Roger.  Tell him I said yo if you call.
 
Now  AAJ's kit uses Camaro Z28 rear Calipers.  You can get the calipers with ot without the parking brake feature.  Now that you've seen the taper concept, you can pretty much figure out how to do it.  His kits are very cost effective and the projext is reversable.  I have a set on my 59
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: shawn payne on December 10, 2008, 02:18:37 AM
how many cars do you frickin have polaraco???
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 10, 2008, 04:26:02 AM
9  + the 2- 08's
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: azblackhemi on December 10, 2008, 05:16:55 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
9  + the 2- 08's
  Only 11? Steve You're falling behind.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 10, 2008, 05:56:39 AM
Quote from: azblackhemi
Quote from: POLARACO
9  + the 2- 08's
  Only 11? Steve You're falling behind.
Other than the 08's and Polaraco - how many run?
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 10, 2008, 07:21:37 AM
MMMM  Let me think
 
86 5th Runs
59 Saratoga Runs (For Sale)
Virgin Runs (For Sale)
62 New Yorker Runs, but in a thousand pieces
60 Windsor Runs, no brakes, no rust  I think that's sold. Profit for a change
62 300H has to be put together. . .has a new engine and trans
51 needs a motor, have the hemi for that
65 needs an engine, have that
Voab doesn't, it's still in a thousand pieces. . . Engine is not assembled yet
 
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: shawn payne on December 10, 2008, 08:47:23 AM
voab???? wth is that....... and you have a virgin???? thats worth millions
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 10, 2008, 12:00:13 PM
VOAB is the 67 Fury Vert.  Vert On A Budget
 
Virgin is a 17,000 mile Original 72 Polara
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 10, 2008, 06:56:49 PM
Ummmmm......oh-oh....while you were in FLA I kinda put maybe....ummmm 23,000 miles on her ........


I guess it's just a used car now(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)


Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 11, 2008, 03:05:25 AM
Quote from: stitcherbob
Ummmmm......oh-oh....while you were in FLA I kinda put maybe....ummmm 23,000 miles on her ........
And a hard 23,000 miles at that....
 
(http://www.drmopar.com/72polara.jpg)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 11, 2008, 04:25:49 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 11, 2008, 05:08:25 AM
[/QUOTE]
 
If the top were done, I wouldn't care
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 11, 2008, 05:42:04 AM
Quote from: Commando1
Bob:
Let me be first to congratulate you for taking the big step.  And everyone's behind you, too.  All the better. You're basically living ever man's fantasy.  Spec out YOUR dream car to the pros.
 
 
furyfever2008-12-11 10:52:53
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Johnny D. on December 11, 2008, 06:09:39 AM
The 57-58 always was a favorite fin car of mine too...  although i think the 59 looks more, i dunno... it has something.... Red and White beats tan and gold any day... 

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 11, 2008, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
The 57-58 always was a favorite fin car of mine too...  although i think the 59 looks more, i dunno... it has something.... Red and White beats tan and gold any day... 
Any color beats green.... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 11, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f31/biggreenfury/passdoor.jpg)


Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 11, 2008, 03:43:16 PM
Were 98% of the fusies green or what............ (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley23.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Leaburn Patey on December 11, 2008, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: Commando1
Were 98% of the fusies green or what............ (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley23.gif)
They shouldas called them G bodies for Green...
Benjamin Moore was clearing out their green paint and Ma bought it up in bulk..
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 11, 2008, 04:46:03 PM
I really like the tan and gold Furys!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley23.gif)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 11, 2008, 05:19:44 PM
Dwight (57 Belv-guy from FL) called me before I got home from work tonight and left a message! Called him back twice but no answer...Now we'll play phone tag. I knew something would come up after I made a deal...I never thought it would be him though...
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Leaburn Patey on December 11, 2008, 05:54:02 PM
Let me know if the Green machine has to go..
to Canada,eh?
Hey! quit posting pics of it!! You are making me green with envy!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 11, 2008, 06:24:28 PM
OK Lea...I will have to make a decision...as much as I don't want to sell the ol' green giant...I most likely will have to before the end of next year anyways...If you're ever down this way...make a point to stop and visit us and see her in person...I'll definitely give you first shot when I do...Thanks.
 
Bob
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on December 12, 2008, 04:19:18 AM
What's wrong with green!!!!!!!!!!  I likes it.  

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 13, 2008, 01:05:47 PM
|Bobby, I hear you are looking for Al ("Doo-Wop AL") Wickham's #'s
Email me, and I'll give you his phone #
 
He didn't have his car built by MLC. They used his car in early pictures, and he sold them a bunch of parts.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: glen cyr on December 13, 2008, 04:23:30 PM
Question: What's the difference between a Green "C" and a Blue/Red/Orange/Pink/Yellow/White/Black""C"?


Answer: The Blue/Red/Orange/Pink/Yellow/White/Black "C"s are very RARE and you should hold onto these as prices will soar to the Stratosphere in the near future!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)


 
Glen
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 13, 2008, 07:48:13 PM
or......you come to me and I change yer green interior to a more pleasing color.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

when I first started out every interior that came my way happened to be burgandy or ox-blood maroon.....maybe because my garage was grey with burgandy trim... I dunno(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)


Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 15, 2008, 04:25:06 PM
Not to change the subject of Buzzard Puke GREEN Mopes,,,,,,,,,
laughing,,,,,there is a nother 'squabble' goin' on over on the FwdLk
This time they are calling ,,,,, somone stupid, for paying 20 large for a VERY rusty D convt!
unnnhh,,,,, kids.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 15, 2008, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: alumcanTandThd
Not to change the subject of Buzzard Puke GREEN Mopes,,,,,,,,,
laughing,,,,,there is a nother 'squabble' goin' on over on the FwdLk
This time they are calling ,,,,, somone stupid, for paying 20 large for a VERY rusty D convt!
 
Sigh
 
Forward Look. . .The laughing stock of the free forums
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 15, 2008, 07:36:01 PM


last I heard 1958 300 D convertibles don't exactly show up on every street corner.... 20 G's sounds ok to me


........it's certainly ok for the E body set to pay that for something that needs to be totally re-skinned....

stitcherbob2008-12-16 00:38:38
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 16, 2008, 06:38:32 AM
It's NOT what one is 'willing' to pay for,,,, a 'round tuit',,,,,
Several are bashing the guy for paying, then several are bashing the bashers,,,,,
Battle lines have been drawen and swords crossed.
This time,,,,,, so far,,,, ole Nate isn't involved.
 
Who gives a flyin' fart in a hurricane, who pays whatever, for whatever!  I feel that is 'who's' business.
If 'who' posts that he 'scored' this 'round tuit' for 'X' number of dollars, why does 'what' want to bash 'who' for paying too much?  Then, it makes no sence for 'why' to come along and bash 'what'?
 
Like you say Hobby, that bunch (except for a few) get's it's panties all twisted over the most trivial subject(s)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 16, 2008, 07:38:25 AM
Rick
 
Why not invite the few and have them come over where there is no BS like that.  You would think they would be fed up by now.
 
They're getting stupid and it's the same handfull all the time.  And Nat is one of them.
 
How can a site owner let it get this far?  Or is he just as bad?   MMMMMaybe I shouldn't have asked that question.  I see what he does too.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 16, 2008, 03:17:25 PM
That site needs a new owner, a ruthless moderator, Mopar to step in and claim the FL name as a trademark, or a nice internet worm / virus to shut the whole sorry mess down (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 16, 2008, 03:18:38 PM
AJ was supposed to be doing something about that
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 17, 2008, 05:39:57 AM
stitcther,,,,,, the FwdLk, MAILING LIST sectrion, IS ruled/moderated quite virgously!
 
ABSOULTY NOTHING gets out of hand, because Fearless steps in, BEFORE it has a chance to rven get started!
Of course, 99% of the list users are 'stuffed shirts.'  Stitcher, you wouldn't last 8 minutes over there!  The list is STRICTLY purists.  I won't even go into the 'list' section.
 
(maybe I shouldn't have quit as the 'romper room' mod,,,,,,,. I don't know, no one knows)
MORE than three quartetrs of my time/posts, were in the 'sewer',,,,,,,,,. We (those who did venture in) had fun! 
The SIMPLE, ONE rule, I had to enforse only TWO times, on the same person, (Kenny J) the whole time!
I have no desire to go in anymore.  Once or twice a week , I log on ,and see if anything new has been postedin the 'swamp', I can contribute to,,,,,.
 
I told Fearless how to 'fix' the web site, up at this year's Carlisle.  (I happened to be comming back from NYC/Hobby's, with a ebay beater van)
He agreed.
He was going to use 100% of my suggestions,,,,,,,,.  So far,,,, no changes.
 
Still, even with the 'kiddie' squabling, there are some good idea/suggestion/problem fixs, that get posted.
 
Stitcher, I have a 'feeling' that (let's pretend) even, if you posted a 'normal' post over there, you would get a 'bashing' war started, simply, because you are affiliated with Hobby.
When Fearless first started that site (the orginal FwdLk site, the one before thisin)  I pleaded to get a joke section started!
Most of the'other' car sites have a "R/X" rated, joke asection.  More than 1/2 of them, have a ALL OUT PORNO section!  NO 'verbal volley-ball' pantie twisting, in THEM!!  Why?
 
Hobby.  (change the subject) You know anything about Brassbin, Fred?
He hasn't PMed me or nor have I see any of his posts.  He sorta dissapeared, like "Einstine"
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 17, 2008, 07:15:10 AM
You have to check with Spanky on Fred.  I haven't heard from him in over a year
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 19, 2008, 05:46:12 AM
Back to FL talk....I apologize but I just have to vent I guess....I have 12 posts over there and now it's obvious that it's 12 too many. I went into "Current Miss Belvedere Progress" and read the whole thing all 8 pages...first time...Wow...I know my blood pressure spiked several times...especially when they slandered our own beloved Steve....Talk about ravenous wolves stripping a carcass of it's meat and flesh....I just can't believe how those guys treat us + one another over there....and the poor guy from Ultra-One too...Dwight. What on earth did he do?.....to deserve the endless supply of mean and rotten accusations that most of those guys are lobbing at him. I would think he could easily sue them all for slander. I had to post a reply there....I just had too....basically saying is this all worth it?...It's a 50 year old car....that's basically now junkyard material...let the guy clean it up...and leave him a lone...It's not your decison to make...it's the owners...Is it worth causing hard feelings...ruining relationships here over it...I did egg them on a bit too though, I have to admit...saying who came up with this name anyways...Miss Belvedere? Shouldn't have done that...mybad!...Well...They're having fun with me now...."Bible banger...flee the scene"...."Go get em boys" etc... Who knows maybe they can direct their anger toward me instead of Dwight now...That would be better...Again though...It just makes me wonder what makes one bunch so rotten and nasty(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)....and then another bunch (here) where everyone is peaceable and respectable to one another...There has to be a major shake up over there...hopefully much sooner than later....Again...I appreciate you all. Thanks to all you guys...who continue to make Moparfins a great and fun place to visit....a great forum to discuss our Mopars and also a great place to build friendships. 
 
furyfever2008-12-19 11:40:08
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on December 19, 2008, 07:13:41 AM

 
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I think it has something to do with the size of their wieners....... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on December 19, 2008, 07:44:36 AM
And I thought the immature children over at DigitalCorvettes.com  were bad.....
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 19, 2008, 08:25:54 AM
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Yes folks, once again....Bob keeps us in stitches (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) LMAO..RAOF 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 19, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
|Bobby,,,,, let me make 'this' statement,,, in behalf of BOTH FwdLk , AND Hobby.  (when I speak of 'Hobby', I am refering to HIM, BOTH of his web sites, his tenure as FwdLk head whoop-de-do) Plus, I can safely say that out of everyone here, and over 90% of the current FwdLk members, I have more time and grade sitting on the commode, than they have in their respective sites!
Meaning, I have been around the block several times, so to speak.
Fearless and hobby are BOTH computer 'experts'
"Fearless Leader"  David Stragand (I gave names to everyone on the first FwdLk site) first opened the FwdLk site in late '98.  There was only two sections.  "General Discussions" and the "Exhaust Pipe"
The EP was for "HOT GASES" to pass through. A 'off topic, lighter side', etc.  Kind of a minor joke room.
Between then and when I joined, either, Dec of '99, or Jan of Y-2K.  The EP section morphed into a 'modified' section.
As |I said, I tried for a year to get a seperate joke room.
Now let me stop here, and mention this. Stragand at that time live a hour north of me in Pittsburgh.  We phoned each other quite frequently.
He (Fearless) would get phone calls late at night complaining of my jokes, or getting off topic, and getting others off topic.  PHONE CALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT COMPLAINING I WAS OFF TOPIC!!!!!
Now, you can check all this out, by going into www.forwardlook.net (http://www.forwardlook.net) rolling clear down almost to the bottom of the page, (wherever) and find the archives section.  There is a listing for BOTH the orginal site, and the new (present) site.
(The orginal FwdLk site 'crashed' at least 2 or 3 times a week)
Featrless kept telling me, (others) he was going to get a new site/server/etc.
I and a few others begged for a seperate joke room/section, AND got it.
It was called the "rec-room"
Then a short time later I get a call from Fearless, and posted at the same time, he was making me moderator,of the 'romper-room' as "I" called it.
Comments started flying.  OMG the fox is in charge of the hen house, to, it's good that the immature now have their onwn place to go and not bother the rest.
CLEAR back then '02-'03 I saw potential problems, and posted several time "why" are there is so many "WARS" getting started?
There were some real good verbal bashing going on.
Bobby, that "Bible thumper" comment directed towards you, is TAME, compaired to some of the early bodily threats that went on.  6-7 years ago that would have been a compliment.
(you might find some old wars, in the new site archives)
The first (old site/new site) couple of years, I had absoulty NO moderator powers at all!
I could NOT delete, freeze, move ANY posts!
(It was when Hobby was head moderator that he got those 'powers'/duties' for me)
I'm getting ahead of my slef.  Hobby wasn't involved on FwdLk, yet.
 
A little about me. I am a welder on coal mining machinery.  '01 a company buy out, underminded the Union, and they fired ALL who  'had' or who 'were' on Workman's Comp.
In '99 I had the first of my many operations, on my one knee.  6 months later I was back to work.
I didn't do much car wise, (no $$) from '01 to '04  No one would hire an card carrying old fart, except for flippin' frozen cow parts under the Golden Arches, for mim wage.
In '04 I landed this Motorcycle Safety Course instructors job. Summer time ONLY but, I had some playing $$, 8K a year.
Being a safety instructor, I meet ALL KINDS of differnt people, from ALL walks of life!
A billionair, to a person who has a hard time making an "X", to a person who has never ridden a bicycle, or a person that learned a new word,,,, CLUTCH!
MY goal, was to see how I could get into each student's head, find out what made them 'tic', bring myself to 'that' person's level, so they can learn.
I can say, I can deal with, or know how to deal with/manage a group of people.
 
OK, now back to the story.
Running the roper-room, I wanted as few as rules, any, if possible!
There were about 15-16 girls who regulary posted.  I asked them what would they NOT want to see?  They ALL said, no frontal nudity.  Guys/girls/heshe's.  I got the majority of the minority, and made them feel like part of an important venture!
There ,ONE rule!  How simple could that be?!  Post all the butt pictures, you wanted!
 
How Fearless couldn't watch the goins on, 24-7.  So Hobby stepped in and Fearless appointed him a lead Moderator.
Between Fearless, and Hobby, some of the more undersibles, or constant liers/bullpoopters, got kicked off.  (Most are back on now)
 
Now.  Bobby I should have mentioned this to you.  Even though I was clear on the bottom rung of the chain of command ladder.  ANY problems others had with someone else, they came to me.
Why do you thnik that happened for?  Because I knew how to listen!
 
Did I 100% agree with everthing hobby did?  NO ( Keyword, here is 'agree')
 
|But, I WILL say this!  Other than a few, (before Nathan) instigators, Hobby ran a decent ship!
The wars/squabblings wern't any where near what they use to be, or now!
 
Untill the Joe Vincensi (how ever you spell his name) thing.  (Bobby you PM or eamil |Hobby, and he will tell you that story.) I want you to hear straight from the horses' mouth (ass LOL)  That way, NO misreprecentation can happen!
 
But now, anything that has to do with NJ, Hobby , The buried Ply, Joe V, this web site, Ultra 1, will bring out the 'beast' in most over there.  (Why?)
 
(The woman who was head of the Tulsa Centinal Commitee, I can't think of her name right now, I tlaked on the phone with her several times, named the car Miss Belvy, or Miss Belvedere, about a year before the unvieling.)
 
I really can't give a 'eduacted' 'SHRINK'S' opnion on why no one on the FwdLk site can't get a long.
TOO many Alpha Males.  TOO many think they are expert at whatever it is they think they are,,,,,,,.  TOO many DEMAND their indivudal respect!  (instead of earning it)
 
The site has some GOOD information!  Most present that informatrion wrong, or word a differnt opnion wrong,,,,, there goes the verbal volly-ball accuasitions!
 
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 19, 2008, 09:48:09 AM
Thanks Rick, I appreciate you spending the time trying to explain things to me. Now I understand when you reply over there and hit Nathan hard....(just one example) He cowers...He does nothing to try to get back at you. You see...I'm much more the passive type...I love laughing...encouraging others...doing my best to get along with everyone...even trying to be the peacemaker if at all possible. After reading that 8 page topic "Current Miss Belvedere progress" I just couldn't hold back...I was beside myself and just couldn't believe what I was reading...especially after all the Steve/Dwight bashing that went on. I reasoned with myself and thought "I got to show them what they're doing to themselves here". How can these animals help each other...let alone exist together?WRONG...I must keep it light...use the forum for just what you say...the good knowledge that's there....stay away from the controversies...I didn't realize Steve use to be a moderator over there...That's a shame...You are right...too many big egos over there. Too many that delight in ganging up on others. ugly...real ugly. I'll check out that link...should be interesting. Thanks Rick...I appreciate you...
Bob 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 19, 2008, 03:29:17 PM
Bobby, Ole Nathan is a agressive person compaired to what he use to be!
He has some good solid backbone now!
Before, he would always ask,,,,,,, (post) "which way the valve stem unscrewed," or any number of questions, ranging from simple (valve cap) to complex, (valve adjustment) on a NICE '56 Dodge he has.
It was a private joke between Hobby and I, how he seemed to be totally unsure/unsecure of himself.
Now don't get me wrong. Back then, I never said anything publically to or about old Nate.
Then he became the 'romper room,' moderator, changed and enacted a bunch of rules, pissed a bunch off, tried to kick a buch off the site.
(there was a black guy from out in Ohio, someone posted a "N" word joke or statement pissed him off and he left.)  That's is when Nathan went balistic, and wanted EVERYTHING to be political correct. 
Old nate got his backbone, and bashed anyone who called a terrorist a "Towell or sheet" head!
I could take NO more, like you, (even after several member pleaded with me to come back as mod, or do something to get nathan under controll) I lit into Nathan with both barrells.
(you can find THAT long post in the new site archives)
 
Bobby, once you get this '58 Ply, and you want to ebay a left over parts car, or, lets say you pick up a 'FwdLk Dodge, '57-'61 to make some $$ on ebay.
BE PREPAIRED TO HAVE EACH AND EVERY WORD/DESCRIPTION PICKED OVER WITH A FINE TOOTHED COMB!!!!!
There is a couple over there, that is all they live for, is to tell each ebay seller how this is wrong, how that is wrong, he isn't representing the car right, send letters to ebay, etc, etc!
Then post on Fwdlk how ggod a detective they are by bashing a seller for misrepresenting a vehicle!
You will have to grow a '2nd set of skin'
 
See there 'bible tumper,' you just taught youself a valuable lesson!
You ever wonder how they found out you were a Christian?
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 19, 2008, 03:40:27 PM
I just got this for you Bobby
 
 




Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 19, 2008, 06:37:00 PM
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Nathan got his seeds when I left.  He knew then I had him pegged.   If you remember a long time ago you and I talked about him.  I told you He fit a profile.  You agreed.  You've never like that little Mary.   Other than you, he had nobody else to challenge him.  He built his little cult of followers there and is now untouchable (?).  Well he thinks he is.  Today he has to keep the attention pointed at others so they don't see him for what he is.
 
Hey Dud!  I find it interesting he said he had time to research the INTERNET. . . .  so on and so on.  He said something about he'll get to me.  He was so focused on Lea and Matt.  But for some reason, as active on the Internet as I am, I am very hard to find.  I tried to find myself and didn't do well with it.  I only found references to the Bashograms they did on Forward Look.
 
Guess what.  You can Google Mathan D. Manning and find pages of BS about the phony.  BUT!  Google Steve Hobby. . .  The fact is Rick, he couldn't find anything on me!  I'm a doctor or a horse trainer. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  But he didn't have the seeds to concede failed to get any information on me. 
 
He is a little man in a big mans world.   You don't see me using my full name as my site handle.  I don't work for a small time TV station, and don't need to use my name all over the Internet hoping someone will discover me. . . .  What a baazoom.  I also don't send secret PM's the the female members asking for love either.  But if you look him up, he was a judge in some beauty contest at a state fair.  Perfect job for him.  He's sick.
 
I just got caught up on the bashing.  They attack anybody who speaks out.  I  was appalled they actually attacked a member because he said something, had 12 posts, and they attacked him because he's religious!  What is wrong with those people???  And we haven't even gotten to that bird brain Niel and the other smart a$$ 300C.  Actually, Nathan has been unusually quiet since you told him I was going to get him.  He doesn't know how true that is.  Him and the paranoid who owns the site.  Mr. Internet security Forensics Expert.  Uh Huh. . . But is he any good???  I'm gunnin for both of them.
 
 Lets face it Rick, Nates a wanna bee, and never will be (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
Soap box is back in the closet
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 20, 2008, 06:41:47 AM
Yeah Rick...I saw Neil's reply...thanks...pretty tame huh? Sure I know how they know I'm a Christian....I'm asking for it....by putting a scripture verse in my signature...You see, I try to give glory to God in everything I do. He's the reason I'm still here. 12 years ago I had a spritual awakening. He pulled me out of a deeeep pit called alcoholism. I was very close to death...had to quit or else....I couldn't do it on my own....tried many, many times. Here's an old saying that my dad always said: If ya wanna play...then you'll have to to pay. So if I get bashed up a bit now...you're right...got to grow a second set of skin...I have to admit though...so far FL is the only place that's given me s**t for it. That's fine...Maybe it will help someone else to remember Him when they need help....like I did. The great commission: Go into all the world and spread the good news. Persecution today is nothing like it was then! Hey Steve...get it yet? I'm furvedere....with the 12 posts....you know....the religious one (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) Thanks to all you guys for putting up with me.
 
and Thank you too Rick...I appreciate you as an ally...
 
furyfever2008-12-20 12:11:25
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2008, 06:55:52 AM
Quote from: furyfever
   Thanks to all you guys for putting up with me.
 
 
You have to be kidding?  What are we putting up with?  Thank you for sharing your story, but it wasn't needed.  We respect your feelings and commitments.  Right Guys?
 
You're family man. . . . .  None of that matters here. 
 
If you would like some Pen Revenge, send Nathan my above message.  LOL  And you can tell that dim bulb I SAID SO!  But change the name to Bob.  LOL  Rick doesn't need anymore nightmares
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 20, 2008, 07:27:09 AM
I meant what I said earlier "our beloved Steve" (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif) The proof is in the posts. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  Go over there....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif) Then come over here....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) How anyone can miss it is beyond me. Steve, you attract good people because you are a good man and you know how to treat people right. There....
 
Thanks again Head Kahuna...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) 
Bob
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
Bob
 
Yer scarin me! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  Next you'll be asking to have my next born!!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)  Just Kidding.  But I will need a shoe horn to log on again.  I'll need to get my swelled head on line. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
Thank you for the kind words.  But remember it's not just me, it's all of us.  As I have said, I am honored to have all of you as my Cyber Friends and close friends.  I just play a small part.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 20, 2008, 12:32:36 PM
|Bobby, no need to offer any thanks.  I'll do it for any insane person!  LOL
While you are down there searching for the lost archives, I was telling you about,,,,,,.  Remember,,,, there have been some, venture into the old site forums archive, and,,,,,,,,,, were never heard of again!    (weird organ music playin' in the back ground)
 
Check out the "Dutchess and Temptation" movie section. THAT is "Fearless Leader's " 'Christine'
If you look real close on the driver's side rear bumper,,, that is a REAL, ORGINAL, 'vote for Richard' (Nixon) bumper sticker!
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 20, 2008, 04:34:40 PM
You should talk about who's insane. . . .  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 20, 2008, 05:26:51 PM
|Who,,,,?  ME?!
I ain't in-sane!  WTF is wrong with you Hobby? Insane.  I got yer 'insane' right here!  (grabbing crotch and shaking up and down)
 
 Thought I wuz the, 'eg-nrnt hik'  (how come this type changed?  I didn't push any differnt  buttons,,,,,,,,|)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 21, 2008, 02:11:15 PM
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Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on December 22, 2008, 06:58:58 AM
Hey Bobby!  "THIS" wuz posted over on Fwd|Lk
 
 
 

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on December 22, 2008, 10:27:03 AM
Thanks Rick...You're  a good man to let me know this. I'm going to go over there and attempt to thank this "Buff Scott Jr" for sharing that. Hopefully I can find where he posted it...People need to be more "open" to being reminded about the real meaning of Christmas. The knowledge of HIM is slowly slipping away...You can see it everywhere. Many people are even afraid to say Merry Christmas now...instead they just say Happy Holidays so they don't offend others...Come on....Let's keep Christ in Christmas!! Thanks Rick...You've helped to do just that...simply be telling me about this. (and anyone that should read this too)
 
Bob
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on December 22, 2008, 12:40:43 PM
Unfortunately, they are ugly all year
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 01, 2009, 06:56:57 AM
Bobby, more pictures of the car you was wanting,,,,,,,.  Why he waited so long for,,,,,,(?)

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 01, 2009, 07:22:51 AM
This has dragged on so long I forgot how much he wanted for it.

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 01, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
HA!  Thius is the firts I noticed.  It's got a %$#@n' (http://mailto:%$#@n) Chevy motor!!
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 01, 2009, 11:28:42 AM
What a shame it took him over two months to post photos. I'm sure I would have been interested. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) Now I'm having one of these built...I can't quite believe it yet.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/68/Tulsarama1-062.jpg)furyfever2009-01-01 16:37:04
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 01, 2009, 11:57:23 AM
Same Color?
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 01, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
Yes...I've decided to go with a factory Fury...Buckskin beige with gold trim...no Christine
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 01, 2009, 02:51:07 PM
Quote from: furyfever
Yes...I've decided to go with a factory Fury...Buckskin beige with gold trim...no Christine
 
Atta' Boy. . .  It's a pretty combo
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Matt Aker on January 01, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
YES IT IS!  There's a '58 Fury locally with a 350 dual-quad that shows-up at shows periodically.  NICE! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 01, 2009, 03:12:22 PM
Well there Bobby.
If you're gonna have them put in a 350 GC motor, you will NEED 'these' brackets.
 
Run over to the  FwdLk ebay section, "Restored '58 Ply Belvy" post.
Feast yer eyes on those brackets and decals I made!
 
I tried, but I don't know how to post picture(s) on here.  (Hobby won't 'learn' me.  He bought me the books and papers, but all I wanna do is have sex the teacher!)
 
I have the OM paint #'s for the '58 Fury dash brown, and texture additive.  The same brown # without the texture is used on ALL the interior trim.
I also have the translucent gold color # that the hubcaps were painted from the factory.
Also, other Fury only #'s for things I forgot.
I compiled a big book back there right after the movie came out.
I pulled the, factory, stick shift, GC Fury, that Craig Stevens, (real name Gail Sickles, pronounced 'cycles') bought new, and was suposed to have used on his TV series, out of a local Junk yard here.
Also, while yer over there in FwdLk land.  Go into the general discussion and "Pipe Dream" post.  You will see pictures of the '58 Belvy Convt I used to have!
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on January 02, 2009, 05:06:56 AM
Congrats on not foisting yet another idiotic Christine clone on the
world!!  The Buckskin Fury is a faboulous car in it's own
right. 

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 02, 2009, 05:23:30 AM
Well Rick, Since they have a 58 Fury with a 350 gc...numbers matching car up there...He probably has those brackets already....I would think. I'll ask him though...Thanks...Ironically...He got the car I missed out on in early November from a guy up in Mass. This guy did not get back to me right away (craiglist) and by the time he did, (after me pestering him with several e-mails)..there were already others beating down his door to get the car. The winner who payed him more than he was asking was Edwin from MLC. Edwin offered me the car instead of the Christine...It was a very tough decision and I still find myself going back and forth...but I believe getting a numbers matching 350 gc Fury will hold it's value more...actually it will probably be worth the $$ immediately after it's finished....Thanks for the info...I did not know there was a section for the paint codes and such...That will be handy to have when they get that far. I want it to be as original as possible. Your belvy convertible is on Plymouthcentral.com too...I thought you still owned it...drats...Thanks guys namely Steve...Matt...Rick...Roger...for your encouragement. This is a HUGE decision that I've been going back and forth on...a roLLerCoaSTer ridE....if you know what I mean...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) Should I have done that??? Yes...No...Yes...No....Right now it's back to Yes... furyfever2009-01-02 10:30:08
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 02, 2009, 06:51:58 AM
MY opnion,,,,, I will NOT have a 'whore house' red vehicle.  I like to look at 'em, but, won't own one.
I do NOT like a bright red color.  Burgandy/Maroon, I LIKE!
When the movie first came out, I rembered seeing a '58 Fury on it's sdie in a local yard here.
I bought it.  (Parts only) the one side was rusted so bad from laying on the ground for 10 years or so.
That car turned out to be the car Craig Stephens, (aka Peter Gunn) bought new!  A 350 STICK car.
I was going to build a OM Fury.  Ammassed ALL factory #'s etc and endough NOS parts to littery build a almost complete NOS car.
In '92, A Chevy guy burnt my garage down.  Two other VERY die hard GM (only) guys took him out for a steak dinner, for ridding the word of a bunch of damned old Chryslers.
I lost a rusty 300-D  HT and a 23K orginal '58 Windsor sedan, a '58 Fury from Colorado, ALL my Fury parts, the trailer I had built
This part is scarry.
One of the two guys was a diabetic.  Since, has died shortly after my fire, (a year or two)
Anyway, they were at a local show, and the diabetic walked up to a '50 Ply and kicked the door as hard as he could, and told the other guy , who had a junk yard, why don't you bring your crusher in here and mash all of the %$#@n' (http://mailto:%$#@n) Chryslers!
Well the owner of the '50 Ply jumped up and beat the poop out of the diabetic.
The cops came in and arrested the '50 Ply owner!  (He did get bligernt with the cops)
So the diabetic sued the Ply owner, and get this, the courts favored the diabetic , since he was handicapped!
Ho lost ALL his property, house, car, everything!
First thing the diabetinc did was drive the Ply, and had it mashed!
Took the guys house and barn, flattened it, and sold the property for a million dollars to a developer!  Went to one of the first B-J auctions and bought for some outragious price a rare, specail '49 Olds '98 Convt.
Since, I couldn't sue, or was afraid to sue, I had to forget about any '58 Furys
The insurnace paid for the garage.  So I started over.
The ONLY reason I was able to get that Belvy convt was the Cnadian $$ exchange rate!
I went up to Nova Scotia and got it.
The only reason my refernce book survived, I had loaned it to a person in another state.
As I mentioned, I think you are better off with a genuine Fury.  A 350 GC Fury is a huge plus!
For they only made 2,800 or so 350 GC motors!  around 250 of those was a manual trans.
They dropped the manual trans behind the GC mid year. 
The reason was, the only manual trans they had was a 318 HD beefed Taxi/Cop unit.  It wasn't 'stout' enough to stand up to the GC's torque.
I wasn't untill 1960 (361) that Ma MoPar came out with a manual trans stout enough to take the B Block's torque.
 
Now if you caould get one of the 'movie' cars, you would, $$$$ wise, be better off with it.
 
I don't know if SMS upholstry up there in Wash state, or Oregon, or whereever, has started re-popping the '58 Fury Cloth (ONLY)   One of those guys told me back in the early '80's they were goig to do a run of the '58 cloth.  Each year Furys had a differnt cloth pattern.
 
The perforated Fury center headliner can be duplicated by getting a newer VW bus headliner and glue it to a cardbord and ues it.  Done right, you can't tell the differnce.
The chrome center divider strips, go to ANY '80's-'90's Dodge window Van, the one that carries passengers, and the strips are identical.  You jsut have to get them translucent chromed, or chrome paint, and glue/melt two together for the front to back Fury.  Dodge Van strips are across, side to side.
 
As I said, I have forgot most of what I know about the, '58 Fury and the GC motor.
A bit of trivia.  Most don't know this, but there was two differnt sets of GC, AFB, carbs!
Two differnt stick carbs, and two differnt auto carbs!
 
There used to be ONLY TWO chrome shops in the US that had a vat big enough to silver/gold anodize the 7' 7" long 1/4 insert.  One was out in the mid west someplace, the other is Tri-State plating in Hunnington WV  Talk to "Big Ed"
 
If I can remember something else, I'll pass it along to you.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on January 02, 2009, 07:14:24 AM
Wow - reading about the cars Rick lost in that fire is  enought to make a grown Mopar man cry!!!!

Too bad you didn't know Mobby then, he'd a mixed up a couple bags of cement.



Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 02, 2009, 07:16:01 AM
Yes. . .That was an incredible loss
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 02, 2009, 07:21:31 AM
and people around here complain that their cars are picked apart at car shows....

If that Plymouth guy hadn't of beat the crap outta the %^@#$& guy there, he could have taken care of the problem quietly later on....a gunny sack, some rope and an old mine shaft would do nicely!


Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 02, 2009, 07:22:28 AM
oh yeah... I would do a Fury in dark blue .....with the goldtone and the buckskin interior....who cares if it's wrong!

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 02, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
Holy Cow...That's quite a story...Hope there isn't anymore Chrysler haters out there like that ever again. You must have been beside yourself when that happened. Insurance?? I've thought about that too...Insurance will not be cheap for this car. I'll be paying double what I'm paying now for my three classic cars...You are a walking Mopar encyclopedia Rick...Thanks for all the info.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 02, 2009, 09:07:43 AM
no matter what you do with the car. . .those idiots at Forward Looser will pick it apart, sight unseen
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 02, 2009, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: alumcanTandThd
In '92, A Chevy guy burnt my garage down.  Two other VERY die hard GM (only) guys took him out for a steak dinner, for ridding the word of a bunch of damned old Chryslers.
I lost a rusty 300-D  HT and a 23K orginal '58 Windsor sedan, a '58 Fury from Colorado, ALL my Fury parts, the trailer I had built...
 
HOLY (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My gawd, I would have gone ballistic!!! How the hell did you refrain from killing them.
There's NO WAY I wouldn't have had them used as pinattas at a Teamster meeting hanging by their cajones.
And that's for starters.................(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 02, 2009, 10:41:54 AM
I remember all this. . .I forget how he started the fire.  Rick told me but CRS.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 02, 2009, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
...CRS.
 
Take two and call me in the morning (if you remember)
(http://www.gadgets.co.uk/mas_assets/full/USBMEMORYPILL.jpg)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 02, 2009, 11:15:28 AM
I know you have a cache of those at your house. . . .
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 02, 2009, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
I know you have a cache of those at your house. . . .
All mine are blue...
 
 
Here,  I'll say it:
 
(http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~bites/derailed1.jpg)
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 02, 2009, 05:30:55 PM
more,,,,,,
 
and the one on the right is her sister: Ms. Belvie (dear)....
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 03, 2009, 05:03:46 AM
When I have the time, I am going to buy them all lunch.
 
Hey Canny.  Just exactly what car does Neil own?  Has anyone seen pictures of it?  He's like Doc Soto.  All gas and nothing to show
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: 300rag on January 03, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Hey Alumcan - are you just trying to stir up more feces over there ? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Those Jezebels either, need to put more clothes on, (for Nathan's virgin eyes) or take off what little clothes they do have on, run down there to the sewer, and frollic around with the old perverts!"
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 03, 2009, 10:35:55 AM
Hey, I just noticed...Why is this topic up in member projects now too? The whole 12+ pages of it....I sense a good reason for this. furyfever2009-01-03 15:36:41
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 03, 2009, 11:41:36 AM
Maybe due to the fact your car is being built??

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Matt Aker on January 03, 2009, 12:54:57 PM
Don't forget the Hi-Way Hi-Fi option (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)  Congrats Bob, I feel like an expectant uncle!
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 03, 2009, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: furyfever
Hey, I just noticed...Why is this topic up in member projects now too? The whole 12+ pages of it....I sense a good reason for this.
 
Because it is now a project (???)
 
I wouldn't be so your heros can see it now could it?  MMMMM  Did I do that?
 
I take exception to what they said about a mans choice of religion.  Letting Google find this is a good thing.  The rest of the world will see what they are and not join
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 03, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
Ah Yes...I thought there was a good reason...two fold reason from what I gather there Steve? Thank you...Thanks to all you guys for all your support in more ways than one. Matt, not sure about the Hiway Hi Fi option. That was the record player in the glovebox you are referring to right? I think that may have been earlier? I remember seeing that before but I do not see it listed over at PlymouthCentral.com under 58 options...I'll look it up..Thanks. Now......I hope this deal goes through now that I've wet your whistles....I talked to a 58 Fury expert last night and he told me to do my homework on this car right away....He said: Get the VIN and have the Chrysler Historical society check it to make sure its a real 350 GC Commando Fury...and he also told me to look for a few other things to make sure they're still there....dual point distributor, passenger exhaust manifold with heat expansion tube...Very hard to find parts that will detract from value if they're not still there on the engine...He named a few more...so I hope this all checks out...A lot of $$$ riding on this deal here...Maybe I should have waited a bit longer before I blabbed? I hope not...I honestly didn't know about these things though...I'm kind a dumb right now...but I will get edjacated now. Duuuu...Thanks again..You guys are great...Bob furyfever2009-01-03 20:08:23
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 03, 2009, 03:02:38 PM
When we're all done, you will be our resident 58 Fury Expert.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 03, 2009, 03:50:24 PM
manufactured from 1960 to 1961 by RCA.
 

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on January 04, 2009, 05:35:26 AM
Steve... Neil Vedder does have a '57 Dodge Custom Royal 2 dr hrdtp that
he bought in the East and trucked out to CA and completely restored in
the early '80s.  He's been a WPC member since then too, about the
time when I first joined it when I had my black '58 NYer vert. 
His is a beautiful car and he's been active in WPC for many years; he
undoubtedly does know his stuff about '57/58 Dodges, not so much though
on other FLs.





Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 04, 2009, 01:05:38 PM
Why don't I remember him on FL then?  I never joined WPC.
 
I don't care how good he is with 57/58 Dodges, he's still in the catagory with the rest of them.  Another know it all and very bitter.  He attacks anyone who challenges him or Nate. 
 
Never mind. . . I could go on for days.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 04, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Never mind. . . I could go on for days.
 
let it go, Steve.  Let it go.   (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 04, 2009, 02:02:57 PM
Yeah,,,,,.  What he said about who Neil is.
 
Hobby, "D-500" Neil Vedder, wasnt' on FwdLk when you were there, the reason you don't know him.
But, as with hearsay, he has formed 'his' opnion of you, and anything you are, or was, associated with.  Even those people who are, or were, associated with you.  (ex; Ultra One)
His loss your gain.
 
He is a auto insurnace adjuster out in Calif.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on January 04, 2009, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: alumcanTandThd
Yeah,,,,,. 
 
He is a auto insurnace adjuster out in Calif.
 
 
That explains it. . .  He's an insurance adjuster AND he lives in California.
 
So I hit him right on the head then.  What a weak minded fool he must be.  Falls right in with the rest of them.
 
There are still some good ones left.  I have no idea why they stay. . . .
 
Stan
I'll let go when they do.  This stuff keeps coming back to me over and over.  I have recently declared war.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Brian on January 04, 2009, 07:48:08 PM
Hey Steve...I came through the gate you left open....what's all this going on in here.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
I just spent the last hour ready this thread....The FL stuff...Pfffttt...could care less about those people...but not how they have treated some of youse...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)  I got a real HEAVY HAND if it's ever needed....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)...Heck you've seen my picture so you know.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Glad to see that you're finaly getting that dream car FuryFever!!!  Love the options and the color combo!!  Can't wait for the update pics and info as the work begins.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 04, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
A couple of the big shooters I know that concentrate on FL Mopars and put "Duesenberg money" into their cars only go to the "for sale" section of FL....never joined in on the forums and won't. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)




Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 05, 2009, 04:13:46 AM
[/QUOTE]
 
You talkin' bout me Stitch?...I know...Could very well be dozens of others too(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) I've always loved C-bodies ever since I was a kid....and we all know how affordable they are...then I got the eye for Moparfins.....uh oh...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)...and now I find myself spending that"Duesenberg money". The decision wasn't easy....just got sick of looking at 20k (hard top) fins that needed total restorations. I'm just a middle class guy that has always spent within my means...never got into major debt...Now I have a beautiful understanding wife (Praise God) that actually pushed me to do this. She wanted me to live out my dream. As far as Forward Look goes. I totally agree with you...That's what I've basically done over there...look at their for sale sections. I think I have 12-13 posts over there and that's 12-13 too many...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif)Thanks for the continued encouragement Thrashingcows....I certainly plan on posting everything I get from MLC right here....They've promised me photos of every step of the restoration. Between 200-400 photos in all. Hey, while I'm thinking of it...Does anyone know how to contact Chrysler Historical? I have the VIN number of this Fury now...and the stamp # on the 350 block. I want them to decode it to get the history on the car. I heard they can do this...and I hope it doesn't take too long...
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 05, 2009, 05:13:22 AM
Bobby untill someone gives you the 'exact' addy for the historical dept of Ma MoPar, do a GOOGLE search.
Yes, it will take some time, 4 to 6 weeks, or so, AND a little $$$!
Thy ewill NEED a pencil rub of your data plate, VIN plate, and the block #'s
(Those are on the little machined pad.)
You sedn in a request, they send you a forum to fill out, you send back your $$$ and pencil rubs and proof of ownership.
They then will send you the IBM card that prooves EXACTLY how the vehicle you gave the VIN # to, came from Ma MoPar's woom.
 
Now this part I don't know.   You will have to find out.  If the Hist dept desiphers the IBM car for you, or, will you will have to find some one who has the code to desipher how/what the holes in the card mean.
 
There in the mid '80's (?) sometime, the historical dept was closed due to buget cuts.
Use to be, you could call up there and talk to the woman in charge.  She was VERY helpful and friendly.  Informatrion was free.  You just paid for the factory pictures.  Glossy B&W 8X10's
I think back then they were a whopping $10 each.  If you wanted the complete photo pagkage, it was around $2K+  THEN!
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on January 05, 2009, 05:22:45 AM
Just did the google search. Here' what I came up with:
 
http://www.plumcrazychallenger.com/CONTACTING%20CHRYSLER%20HISTORIC.htm (http://www.plumcrazychallenger.com/CONTACTING%20CHRYSLER%20HISTORIC.htm)
 
Does this look right?
 
furyfever2009-01-05 11:17:38
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 05, 2009, 04:23:58 PM
Furyfever,You are one of the few here on Fins  that will actually have a finned car.Now you can really live up to your screen name,LOL!!
 
A few pages about this "new" car and no pics yet??
How about a peek of the work in progress??
I wish I could answer your question in regards to the numbers game but I am not that Fury fluent,LOL
Alpar has great articles on line.
http://www.allpar.com/ (http://www.allpar.com/)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 05, 2009, 10:40:51 PM


Quote from: furyfever
Quote from: stitcherbob
A couple of the big shooters I know that concentrate on FL Mopars and put "Duesenberg money" into their cars only go to the "for sale" section of FL....never joined in on the forums and won't. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)


 
You talkin' bout me Stitch?..



Well, I could be when she's done! But I was talking about a customer of mine and another of the resto shop who both own $100,000 +   finned cars and put tons of moola into them for competition at shows and concours events. I just got all the seats from a 1961 300G vert to do coming up. The leather alone will be over 500 bucks a hide ( x 3 ) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)

Has a schedule been proposed about your project? These big resto jobs need to be laid out in 3 steps....#1- Body, #2 - Mechanical, and #3 - Upholstery. Talk with your shop and keep on top of things...I've seen too many cars go so far over budget and get abandoned to the shop for the price of 1 month's bill.....
stitcherbob2009-01-06 03:42:32
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on January 06, 2009, 03:25:17 AM
Quote from: furyfever
Just did the google search. Here' what I came up with:
 
http://www.plumcrazychallenger.com/CONTACTING%20CHRYSLER%20HISTORIC.htm (http://www.plumcrazychallenger.com/CONTACTING%20CHRYSLER%20HISTORIC.htm)
 
Does this look right?
That was not the addy I wrote to, but,,,,,, remember, that was before the downsizing.  Try it, what have you got to loose?
 
Actually, Am I too much of a worrier?
I dunno, are you a worry wart?
 
MLC has given me the VIN # and the code stamped on the block. The last five digits are the same in both. Does this alone verify a numbers matching car/engine?
Bobby , yes ,,,, in a way that means the motor and VIN # are matching.
Notice I said VIN # and NOT car.  For two tiny spot welds is all that holds the VIN tags on the Fwdlk cars.
For the sake of  feces and giggles.  The "Matching #" deal didn't actually happen untill after 1962 when Ma MoPar revamped their #ing process and IDing system
1/2 of the cars had matching VIN and motor #'s, half didn't.
It's a plus, (bragging rights), thats all, but It does NOT add to the value like a later matching #'s MoPar does.
 
So maybe all that's left is to verify that this is in fact a true Fury?...
There is a tiny firewall/cowl tag.  I have seem them all over the palce.  I had two Furys, one the Peter Gunn 350 stick, and a 318.
The fire wall tag was missing on the Gunn car, but I could see where it use to be.  However it was on the opposite side that the 318 Fury was.
That tag,,,,,,,, if you can get someone who knows how to Jethro Bodine 'sipher' it.
Maybe get ahold of someone in the Golden Fin Society and the Ply Owners outfit,
(Sigh),,,,,,,, me and clubs like them, don't get along, (I got kicked out of the 300 club up there a couple of decades ago, for being,,,,, too high spirited, and having no scruples.  I could tell you assinine sotries, they do that will rattle your 'hine teeth!'  Some of those guys have to have a red light bulb screwed into their noses, to keep low flyin' airplanes from crashing into their faces)  if you can get them to get their noses down out of the air long enough to give you information,,,,,,?
There are ways for a sharp eye to telll if that car is a TRUE Fury.
Torsion bar size, the last spring leaf, that "Fury" brown color on the metcal upholstry trim.
The spare wheel did not have the dog dish hub cap nubs.  Wheels were either 14 X 6 or 6.5
The front AND rear seats had a 'dip'
5 button radio front fender mount antenna, heater, whitewall oversized tires, bumper wings, inserts, wheel covers, bigger brakes, differnt rear springs/torsion bars, Fury cloth interior, the single post rearview mirror BOTH sides, were standard items on the Fury.  
 
because the VIN does not verify the model....Chrysler lumped all the Plazas, Savoys, Belvys and Furys together with no distinction in the VIN for each model. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif) 
True.  However I think the Fuys (only) were made with a seperate #ing system.  I know the 300 letter cars, even though they came down the same line as the rest, had a seperate #ing sys.
 
Anybody that knows their stuff here....
I'm dumber than a wad of snot,,,,,,,,
 
please chime in...all info. will be greatly appreciated...because the resto. is starting soon....I think it will be nice to have the many details Chrysler Historical will provide...but I think it will all arrive too late..
Too late for what?
 
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: firedome on January 06, 2009, 04:48:34 AM
If you're gonna spend the moola and expect a gen - u -wine Fury, be
good to know that's what you'll be getting before committing, I'd
think, but if you just want the car regardless, no prob.

Be kinda nice to have another actual FIN owner here.... what with the name here and all. ;-)



Rest of you guys - FLs are still out there and affordable if you don't
have to have a vert - ya just look around, and be willing to travel !!!
Those Swedes will even ship over a nice 4 door!!



Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on February 04, 2009, 06:21:25 AM
Just went over to FL to have a look for the latest news on Miss Belvedere. The latest post seems to take for granted that she is missing??...but with no actual proof. Does anyone know what's going on with the car? I googled "Ultra one Miss Belvedere" and Wikipedia comes up as the top hit...this what it says at the bottom:
In December 2008, Ultra One deleted all the topics in their forum regarding Miss Belvedere. It appears this car may have been lost for good. Attempts to contact Ultra One for comment went unanswered. The vehicle condition and state of repair are unknown.What's going on?
furyfever2009-02-04 11:28:16
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on February 04, 2009, 06:40:57 AM
When I get a chance, I'll go up and see Dwight
 
He's not responding to people at Forward Look.  After the bashing they gave him and his product. . would you?
 
I can't say what he said to me a couple of months ago about them
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on February 04, 2009, 06:55:58 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
When I get a chance, I'll go up and see Dwight
 
He's not responding to people at Forward Look.  After the bashing they gave him and his product. . would you?
 
 
Maybe because of the bashing he's getting from the "Forward Look know-it-alls"...He has decided not to answer any more questions and has removed all info. from ultra-ones forum. Yeah... Makes sense to me....I'd lay low too until the job is done. But now Wikipedia is taking the worst for granted too? That really surprises me (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on February 04, 2009, 07:41:36 AM
It's probably one of those morons like Nathan D. Manning writing stuff up out of Ignorance.  There certainly is a bunch of Ignerns over there.
 
The should be ashamed of themselves.  But they also haven't the brains to put the pieces together.
 
POLARACO2009-02-04 12:42:17
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on February 04, 2009, 08:08:38 AM
How does all the information in Wikipedia get published? That's like an official "on-line" encyclopedia right?
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Rick Chaplin "julio" on February 04, 2009, 09:51:28 AM
%$#@ the spies! 
Go tell 'em, you wouldn't pee in none of their mouths if they were layin there with their teeth on fire!
Bunch of little kiddies anyhow, crying on which end of the sandbox to poop in!
 
Hobby!  This is YOUR site, @#$% 'em!  If you catch one, hang 'em out to dry.  I wouldn't worry on holding what I say for fear of offending.
 
"Hey FwdLk spies!  Hobby sez, you are nothing but a bunch inbread, inbrained, inorgant, indiots, with yer Richards in one hand and a keyboard in the other,,,,,,, not counting, the raging inegos!"  Hobby wants you to get off HIS web site, and go clean up your own side of the playground!"    (there, that oughta scared 'em off,,,,,,  LOL)
 
If I were you, I would go over there and tell 'em all to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  Well, wait a minute.  You can't, can you?  Well, that blowed that idea down the tubes.
 
Anyway,,,,,.
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 04, 2009, 07:41:33 PM

Quote from: furyfever
How does all the information in Wikipedia get published? That's like an official "on-line" encyclopedia right?


you can sign up and change whatever you want.....until someone else can't stand what you wrote and changes it again.....

Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stan Paralikis on February 05, 2009, 12:18:03 AM

Quote from: stitcherbob
you can sign up and change whatever you want.....until someone else can't stand what you wrote and changes it again.....


Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........   (http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/happy.gif)(http://file://C:/DOCUME%7E1/COMPAQ%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 06:22:20 AM
Oh Boy. . Here we go
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Robert Rottman on February 05, 2009, 06:32:06 AM
Stitch...I didn't know that. Here I thought all this information was relatively true. That's ridiculous. So any old dimented reject of society can get in there and write what he/she wants? No wonder this world is falling apart!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) 
 
Here we go with what Steve?....come on finish your thought. Hey! You haven't been writin in Wikipedia have you?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2009, 07:22:15 AM
I was busting on Stan because of some Edits that had been done.  I just don't recall him being involved in any
 
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Title: Another FL topic for discussion
Post by: Stitcherbob on February 05, 2009, 08:00:27 PM
I think wikipedia is mostly correct info because, if you have enough rabid fans of a particular subject, they will know all there is to know (ad-nauseum) about it and make sure the record stays straight on that subject. Anyone with wrong info or a biased opinion will get edited out so fast there will be skid marks on their mousepad!

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