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Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 12:11:10 PM




Well I'll start a thread on my 68 T/C wagon...
 
Here are the before pics,
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/resize1.jpg)
Arriving Home!!
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/resize3.jpg)
Nose in the air...lack of a motor and tranny will do that.
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/resize2.jpg)
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/resize6.jpg)
Hey who stole my 440/auto???
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/resize5.jpg)
Sleep 12 cargo area.
 
and I'll update as I actually get to do work on the ol' girl.
 
Right now it's get the upstairs bathroom redone before mid Nov. and THEN...wife says I get to work on the car.....
 
Although I have been buying stuff for the car like crazy lately so that's a good thing...
 
 
 
 
thrashingcows2012-08-23 02:46:16
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jacques on October 16, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
Sweet car (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2007, 12:13:56 PM
I like them T/C wagons , I'm glad I'm starting to see more wagons being redone, they are really nice.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on October 16, 2007, 12:14:01 PM
nice car man. what are your plans for the thing??
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 12:16:33 PM
And here is the 71 300 4dr that will be donating to the cause....440/auto etc for the ol' T/C...
 (http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/24.jpg)
 

thrashingcows2009-10-13 02:32:40
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on October 16, 2007, 12:18:31 PM
hey man it's your car. and that should make for a nice TC too
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2007, 12:24:34 PM
That car looks to nice to be a parts car....

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on October 16, 2007, 12:33:49 PM
Don't mind Potatoe Brian.  He drinks allot
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2007, 12:35:21 PM
Thanks Steve.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 01:36:15 PM
Well I give you guys a brief history of the car and how it was optioned and were it's going...
 
The car was bought brand new in Yakima WA and was still in the original owners hands up until around 2001-2002, when the woman finally passed away.  The car was then left to the/a son through the estate and since he had no need for it, it ended up on e-bay as a 67,000 rust free running and driving factory 440/auto wagon.
 
I was then bought buy a guy in Portland OR and was drivin from Yakima WA to Potland OR were this owner then pulled the original motor and tranny for his Duster race car.  It was then Re-e-bayed and a fellow from Wyoming bought it and brought it from Portland to Wyoming.
 
It was then that I was looking for a rust free 68 T/C wagon, and through a want ad online this guy contacted me in August 2005.  I bought the car and he let me store it on his potatoe farm until spring 2006.  We then worked out a deal and he transported the car from Wyoming to Seattle WA were I picked it up and brought it across the border into BC Canada.
 
It was then stored in a shed at my dad's farm until about 2 months ago when I finally got the garage cleared up enough to bring it home.
 
The car was ordered, 1968 T/C wagon, 6 pass, 440/4bbl/350HP, auto, Dual exhaust, A/C, power steering, power drum brakes, rear window washer system (rare), electric rear window, 14inch wheels, and deluxe 3 spoke steering wheel.  And that's about it for options.  The car is almost criminal it's so rust free, Yakima Wa is in Eastern WA and is High desert so the car is rust free.
 
SO my plans for the ol' girl are such...I have to quickly pull the motor and trans from the 300 and get the car running and driving so I can get it inspected to register it in BC, hope to have it ready by spring for this.  Then I will probably drive it this way next year and then next fall it will go back in the garage and I'll pull the motor and trans and go through everything.
 
I will then rebuild motor and tranny, High flow manifolds with 2 1/2 inch exhaust with dynomax super turbo mufflers, and removable pipes for 2 high flow cat's for our emissions test every year.  I will rebuild front and rear suspension, with KYB shocksd all around and rear sway bar.  Upgrade the braking system, 73 C-body disc brakes and new booster and master cylinder, 11x3 rear drums for now and disc eventually.  The motor will get a spread bore intake with a Demon sizzler Thermoquad, and will be running a HEI style dizzy and modern Denso high AMP alternator.  Will be running stock style rad, for now, with electric fans.  Upgrade the A/C system with Sanden compressor and new componets under the hood and eventually install a rear A/C system in the car.  Also be installing the cruise system from the 71 300 as well.
 
Interior will get the driver seat back fixed, torn from original elderly owner using it to climb in and out.  I will be installing a 200KPH speedo I am getting from Wishnu (strokerkid) in Holland.  Eventually I will install modern electric windows and door lock,  and modern sound system.
 
Car will be lowered about 2 inches and I'll be running 20x9 inch rims with 255/(35 or 40)20's all around.  replace all the woodgrain with new decals for now but eventually I would like to get the woodgrain either painted or airbrushed.
 
That will do it for now but I'm sure many more things will happen along the way.
 
Wish me luck....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jacques on October 16, 2007, 01:45:51 PM
That 300 is probably in worse shape than the pics suggest (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif)

Good luck with the T&C (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 02:33:49 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
Give that man a prize...Yeah it's rusty and pretty beat up.  Sat outside under a tree for 10 years before I bought it.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2007, 02:39:18 PM
Well granted that I'M NOT drunk, is the engine in that 300 also a 440?

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on October 16, 2007, 02:59:31 PM
Yeah Bri, good luck with the wagon!! I like wagons my frist car was a 66 Plumouth Fury II wagon,poly 318. I wouldn't mind another 66 Fury wagon only with a 383 or 440!!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on October 16, 2007, 03:01:12 PM
hey me and the misses want to find a 71 Fury Wagon in green as a Family Truckster to match Susan. yea with a wagon i don't think a 318 would cut it. lol HEMI WAGON!!!
 
 
Foamy_3022007-10-16 20:01:43
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2007, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
Well granted that I'M NOT drunk, is the engine in that 300 also a 440?
 
Yup, the 300 is a 440 car....so the T/C will be back to her old strength...and a little more(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 16, 2007, 04:24:46 PM
Love T&C wagons.
Sounds like you have a recipe for wreaking havoc on the locals!
I have been collecting parts like mad as well........
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Bill Mounteer on October 16, 2007, 05:27:14 PM
I drove wagons for 18 consecutive years but had to switch to a sedan because they quit making wagons.  When I got tired of the sedan,  I switched to an SUV which was the closest I could get to a wagon. Sure do like wagons. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)

Yours is going to be sweet when you've done. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on October 16, 2007, 06:14:37 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
Well granted that I'M NOT drunk, is the engine in that 300 also a 440?
   (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)   Some people can't take a joke
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on October 16, 2007, 06:31:30 PM
Love these wagons! Looking forward to the updates.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Herman on October 17, 2007, 12:39:27 AM

Quote from: thrashingcows
Yup, the 300 is a 440 car....so the T/C will be back to her old strength...and a little more (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)


Cool!
And eh, how much more? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 19, 2007, 10:30:52 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
For right now to get it through inspection...bone stock with log manifolds.  Then once inspected, dual exhaust and probaly a cam upgrade.
 
Would love to do a 496" stroker down the road but...that's way off....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on October 20, 2007, 02:08:27 AM
sounds pretty sweet. oughta be a great wagon.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 20, 2007, 08:55:30 AM
496 stroker, what kinda rear would you match that up with?

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2007, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
496 stroker, what kinda rear would you match that up with?
 
I would run the stock 8 3/4 with a good set of gear and suregrip in a 489 case....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
Man I want to get working on the beast....soon, very soon....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 21, 2007, 01:56:25 PM
Thats what I'm talking about!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 21, 2007, 07:19:13 PM
Well Here's what I've bought for the wagon in the last few weeks,
 
New Repro Washer bottle
New inner splash shields
New K&N air cleaner
Nice used 3 speed wiper switch
New 73 newport, caliper, brake pads, inner and outer bearings
New front and rear flex. brake lines
New batt. hold down brakets
New OEM 69 C-body battery cables
New NOS A/C vacuum switch
New Timing chain
New Oil pump
New Windage tray
 
Will be ordering the woodgrain decals, U-joints, corbin clamps etc soon....
 
I also have tons of stuff I have bought over the last couple years as well, gasket sets, intake, carb, New booster, master cylinder, NOS lights and lenses, rear grab handles, rear bumper steps, roof rack, radio delete plate, Better steering wheel center cap, etc, etc  My shed is packed with stuff.
 
Just need time to work on the car now....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 21, 2007, 07:28:41 PM
Sounds like you got a lot of work ahead, just curious about one item on
that list, are you going to make the TC a radio delete car?

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 21, 2007, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
Sounds like you got a lot of work ahead, just curious about one item on that list, are you going to make the TC a radio delete car?
 
I might, saw the delete plate on e-bay and had to have it....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
My 70 sport fury was a factory radio delete car, and I hardly ever listen to the radio anyway.  If I do install a stereo it will probably be a docking station for my iPOD.
 
 
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on October 22, 2007, 12:07:02 PM
Hey if your not gunna use it save your pennies for somthing else for the car.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on October 22, 2007, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: thrashingcows
Well Here's what I've bought for the wagon in the last few weeks,
 
New Repro Washer bottle
New inner splash shields
New K&N air cleaner
Nice used 3 speed wiper switch
New 73 newport, caliper, brake pads, inner and outer bearings
New front and rear flex. brake lines
New batt. hold down brakets
New OEM 69 C-body battery cables
New NOS A/C vacuum switch
New Timing chain
New Oil pump
New Windage tray
 
Will be ordering the woodgrain decals, U-joints, corbin clamps etc soon....
 
I also have tons of stuff I have bought over the last couple years as well, gasket sets, intake, carb, New booster, master cylinder, NOS lights and lenses, rear grab handles, rear bumper steps, roof rack, radio delete plate, Better steering wheel center cap, etc, etc  My shed is packed with stuff.
 
Just need time to work on the car now....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
All bought on eBay Ira (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2007, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Quote from: thrashingcows
Well Here's what I've bought for the wagon in the last few weeks,
 
New Repro Washer bottle
New inner splash shields
New K&N air cleaner
Nice used 3 speed wiper switch
New 73 newport, caliper, brake pads, inner and outer bearings
New front and rear flex. brake lines
New batt. hold down brakets
New OEM 69 C-body battery cables
New NOS A/C vacuum switch
New Timing chain
New Oil pump
New Windage tray
 
Will be ordering the woodgrain decals, U-joints, corbin clamps etc soon....
 
I also have tons of stuff I have bought over the last couple years as well, gasket sets, intake, carb, New booster, master cylinder, NOS lights and lenses, rear grab handles, rear bumper steps, roof rack, radio delete plate, Better steering wheel center cap, etc, etc  My shed is packed with stuff.
 
Just need time to work on the car now....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
 
Yup most of it...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2007, 08:21:03 PM
Well I decided to order up a ScareBird rear disc brake brackets for the 8 3/4.
 
I have ordered the Lincoln rear rotors, cadillac rear calipers and pads and that about does it for the conversion....think I'll be into everything for about $350-400 when done and installed.
 
More parts still too order...next is rear springs I think....Espo still have good springs guys??
 
Any thoughts about how to order new springs...1" over stock ride height and extra leaves???
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on November 01, 2007, 04:03:17 PM
Whats your ETW till you start pulling and putting the ordered parts on?

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 08, 2007, 10:40:54 AM
Well I bought this rear a/c switch and bezel off e-bay and thought I might use it as a secondary on/off switch for the rear passengers.  I have the proper NOS dash bezel for the, rear a/c, tailgate up/down and rear washer system.
 
Anyway just wondering if anyone knows what this originally came from??
 
Take a look and let me know.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110182706515&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110182706515&rd=1)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 08, 2007, 10:47:24 AM
Quote from: Potatoe
Whats your ETW till you start pulling and putting the ordered parts on?
 
Well I have to get the motor/tranny pulled from the 71 300 and then install it, get it ready for the Gov't inspection, then hopefully drive it a bit next year (2008) then I will pull the motor/tranny, suspension and start the drivetrain rebuild next fall/winter and hopefully have it ready, drivetrain, suspension, exhaust done for 2009. 
 
The body and interior are in good shape, just need the drivers seat back fixed, and then if I have time maybe re/re the wood grain sides.
 
The wife wants to use the wagon to drive from Abbotsford BC to California to go to Disneyland etc with my 2 daughter in 2010....should be a very cool retro road trip in the ol' wagon!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on November 12, 2007, 06:09:11 AM
That would be very awsome, take a family trip like they used to 30-40 years ago , load up the family wagon and hit the road.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on November 13, 2007, 03:11:44 PM
lol i try to do road trips once a year with the family. last year we took my then newborn son up to Makinaw Island. maybe this next year we will take Susan for a trip. that oughta be retro. good to see some plans TC hope it goes well
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2007, 05:13:59 PM
Well got the donor 71 300 home last week, drove it about 30 miles on an original wheezy carb, running on maybe 6 1/2 cylinders and no back brakes, no heat or defrost.  Neighbour friend of mine drove me to my dads farm were I picked it up and he followed me all the way home, he said his car stunk of over carburated/half burnt gas for the next 2 days.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
Anyway I have been working on the motor the last few days, want to get it running smooth before I pull it and drop it in the wagon.
 
So I have pulled the original carb, put on a 626 eddy with electric choke.  Ran a bit better but still only firing clean on maybe 6 cylinder, lots of poppping and farting.
 
So today I spent the day on my back pulling the plugs...I had forgot how wonderful it is to pull plugs on a 440....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  Laying under the car and using my spark plug socket and a wrench to pull 6 of the eight plugs.  I thought I had new plugs for it, they are autolight 65's but the threaded part of the plug was over twice as long as the ones in the motor...didn't want to risk slapping or burning a piston with those, so I cleaned up the V-power ones that were in there and put them back in.
 
I swapped on a new cap and rotor, and thought I'd change out the old points and condensor.....well that turned into a bit of a wreck show.....I asked some time ago about points and if SB vs BB points were the same, YES I was told....anyway i put in a set of NOS points(SB set) and a new condersor, set my gap and turned the key....AND...AND...AND...nothing.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)  
 
SO I messed around checking everything and I was not getting any spark.  SO I pulled the points and condesor and just threw in the old set, no gapping, and she fired in the first crank...so anyone know why??
 
SO even with the old points and condensor the car is now running on probably 7 3/4 cylinders, will be getting new plug wires this week so that should help even more.  Forgot I need a new coil so that will be on it's way tonight.
 
So once the motor is purrring I'll be tearing it apart and dropping it in the wagon, hopefully in the next couple weeks the wagon will have a new heart again...not running yet but at least in the hole.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 25, 2007, 05:54:16 PM
Go electronic ignition...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on November 25, 2007, 06:28:15 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on November 26, 2007, 05:18:48 AM
UPGRADE!
the electronic ignition kits don't cost too much
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 26, 2007, 07:04:25 AM
Quote from: Foamy_302
UPGRADE!
 
I would if I hadn't already spent a bunch of money on a new HEI style dizzy for this motor.  I'm going to install that, and other parts, until I redo the motor next year.
 
Points should work fine for the little bit of driving I'll be doing in it this comming year.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on December 10, 2007, 07:47:00 PM
Now here are a few pics of the swap...
Motor and tranny came out with no major problems, other than an exhaust stud on each head snapped off....Doooh  Will worry about those next winter when I pull the motor for a rebuild.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT0076.jpg)
Here's a pic of the engine bay before....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT0070.jpg)
And after....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT0081.jpg)
Here's a pic of the ol' girl still up in the air, but motor and tranny are bolted in and secure.
thrashingcows2009-10-20 02:45:08
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on December 11, 2007, 01:24:05 PM
(http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)(http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

Good work Brian!
Even thoug hte temps are mild here it is just plain miserable here.snow then rain and the nfreezing rain the next...
She's in and that's the big part over with..
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2008, 07:58:38 PM
Well I've been slowly puttering away on the car.....installed the mini starter, built my own main battery cables from junkyard pieces, installed horns and relay....man they don't give you much room to bolt those suckers in.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif) 
 
Serviced tranny and installed a drain plug, installed new plugs since the manifolds are off.....I had forgot how long it takes to service plugs with the manifolds ON...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) 
 
Forgot to put the tranny lines in before I bolted the motor in...took some bending and twisting to get them in place...."Mental Note on that one." 
 
Repaired all the dry rotted rubber fuel line pieces and installed 2 fuel ffilters, ione before the fule pump and one after.
 
Installed new-er valve cover bolts, removed from mid eighties M-bodies...the ones with the captured triangle metal pieces to distribute the load....thought I'd see if these might help with vavle cover leakage.
 
I also decided last night I would hook up the kick down linkage, I assumed everything would be fine since the 71 and 68 are both C-bodies......NOPE....the single rod kickdown style of the 71 does not work on a 68 C-body.....lack of firewall clearance....so now I'm on the hunt for a 68 440 kickdown set-up. (See my want ad.)
 
Still lots to do the holiday season really slowed down my progress....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) 
 
Hope to have it running and driving in another month or so.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
thrashingcows2008-01-06 01:02:31
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on January 06, 2008, 12:03:16 PM
Awsome work Brian!, Changing plugs with the manifolds on is a real pain
in the butt, that I know first hand. Keep up the progress and the ol
girl will be humming down the road soon enough.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on January 06, 2008, 12:23:27 PM
Brian
 
It just occured to me I have a 68 440 and trans.  What was it you needed?
 
The engine is going into VOAB with a 4 speed so it won't be needed.  I am hoping to start tearing into the engine in the next week or 2.  I may have to run up to storeage to get you the rod.  Be patient with me. . . It's really hard to get the simplist of tasks done anymore.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 06, 2008, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Brian
 
It just occured to me I have a 68 440 and trans.  What was it you needed?
 
 
Hey Steve....If your willing to sell the complete kickdown assembly I'll bite....I really need everything, from intake braket, all 3 kick down rods and all brackets and clips,  BUT I could make some of the pieces I have work.
 
If you need an intake bracket I can send you a spare one off the 71 440.
 
Let me know.
thrashingcows2008-01-06 22:15:12
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on January 07, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
I have the 2 rods and the bracket here still on the engine.  I have to go up to my storage and look on the trans for the other stuff now.
 
POLARACO2008-01-07 20:49:42
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 07, 2008, 05:29:27 PM
I have a spare one off the 71 440....might not be 100% correct style for a 68 but will function fine.  If you want it I'll send it your way.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 02, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
Well got the kickdown sorted out, the set is off a 62 413 and is identical to the 68 set-up expept for the clips used on the lower rod ends, and the rods are thicker as well.
 
I have everything under the hood hooked up, less the A/C lines, just using the compressor as a pulley right now until I can install my new Bouchillion bracket kit for my Sanden compressor and the bouchillion under hood A/C kit.
 
The motor is read too fire but I have yet to sort out the exhaust and I'm presently working on the rear end.  I pulled the original 741 case with 2.94's and have installed a set of 3.23's in a 489 case.   Also pulled off the 11x2 rear drums and I am installing 11x2.5's instead, more parts available for these.
 
So once the rear is done, the drive shaft is in I can finally fill the tranny, and then fab up some temporary exhaust, good enought to get through Gov't insp. and then I can take it in to get NEW dual exhaust installed with my HP manifolds!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
So hopefully a couple more weeks and she'll be running and driving...then I still have to check the front brakes and make sure everything else on the car is ready for inspection.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
thrashingcows2008-02-03 00:06:52
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on February 02, 2008, 07:53:06 PM
Is that the Serpentine system you are talking about? 
 
POLARACO2008-02-03 00:53:54
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 03, 2008, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Is that the Serpentine system you are talking about? 
 
No just the brackets to mount the Sanden compressor in the right location to still run the V-belts.  Then the new under hood A/C stuff, all the lines and fittings, drier, switches and condensor.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on February 03, 2008, 06:47:55 PM
Dang
 
I was looking for someone who had done that conversion. . . Wanted to see how well it worked and if it was worth it or not.
 
Thanks!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 04, 2008, 06:05:58 PM
Well I finished up the rear end today, got the drive shaft in and filled the tranny.  Even though I have no exhaust on the car, just open manifolds, I couldn't resist cranking it over to see if she would fire up.....
 
We'll once the carb filled it fired right up!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)  No sputter, no fuss, no muss....
 
I only ran it for about 30 seconds but sounded good....I'm very happy and can't wait until I can take her around the block.  This is the first she's run in over 6 years, hasn't had a motor or tranny until a couple months ago.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
thrashingcows2008-02-04 23:06:42
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jimmy on February 05, 2008, 04:12:57 AM
   Looking forward to seeing the a/c install. I looked on bouchillon's site and i'm very  impressed with the a/c conversion kit they offer (from the firewall out). Pretty sure that's the way i'm heading with my a/c system next winter. Thanks for being the guinea pig...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on February 05, 2008, 05:24:12 AM
Hot Dang  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 05, 2008, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: jimmyray68
   Looking forward to seeing the a/c install. I looked on bouchillon's site and i'm very  impressed with the a/c conversion kit they offer (from the firewall out). Pretty sure that's the way i'm heading with my a/c system next winter. Thanks for being the guinea pig...
 
I will be going with the A-Body under hood kit, since on my 68 T/C the A/C lines enter through the firewall behind the motor on the pass. side, much like the A-Bodies do.  So with the 90 degree connections out of the firewall it should clear everything.  I will then run the hoses along the firewall and up over the passenger side inner fender to the compressor and drier etc.
 
I'm not sure when this will get done, hopefully before next winter.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jimmy on February 05, 2008, 09:50:17 AM
   Ya got me all quivering with the thoughts of cold a/c. Cruising around on a hot sunny day in a black convertible with the top and windows up would be "Too Cool". The 66 exits the firewall the same as your 68, right behind the r/side valve cover. Can't wait to see how it all pans out for you...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 09, 2008, 12:46:15 PM
Before...11x2 brakes with 2.94 gears in a 741 case.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/11x2original.jpg)
After...11x2.5 brakes with 3.23 gears in a 489 case.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/11x2halfupgrade.jpg)
thrashingcows2009-10-20 02:55:35
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on February 09, 2008, 01:17:26 PM
Do I hear the pitter patter of tires on concrete soon?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 09, 2008, 01:31:13 PM
Well here's my fancy one man break bleeding system.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Click for larger image....
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/Fancybrakebleedsystem.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14118296/)
 
Yup it's as fancy as it looks....used water bottle, used vacuum hose and a hole in the lid and a hole in the side to vent.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
I've done many cars this way and never had a problem yet...just make sure you don't run the master cylinder dry and after your final pumping let the system gravity bleed for a least 5 minutes before you close up the bleeder screw.
 
thrashingcows2009-10-20 02:58:02
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on February 10, 2008, 02:44:05 PM
Coming nicely Brian!  I am surprised by the 741 case rear end.  All of my '68 Chryslers have 742 cases from the factory.  Although now my '68 300 has a 741 case because that's what I had with fresh 3.23's.  They are plenty strong too. 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on February 10, 2008, 04:23:28 PM
Looking good Brian. 68 T&C's are my favorite.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2008, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: rbrogle
Coming nicely Brian!  I am surprised by the 741 case rear end.  All of my '68 Chryslers have 742 cases from the factory.  Although now my '68 300 has a 741 case because that's what I had with fresh 3.23's.  They are plenty strong too. 
 
I too was a little surprised by the 741 case, for a factory 440 car I would have expected the 742 case as standard fair...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 10, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
741 cases are underrated.They are plenty strong enough..
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 17, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
Well a beautiful day here in BC on the LeftCoast..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  10-12 degrees C today and sunny and clear!!
 
I finished up the poorly constructed exhaust last night, cobbled together from existing and junkyard pieces.  Goes from 2 1/4" off the manifolds to 2 1/2" collector then goes to 2 1/4" to and through the muffler then to 2" to the rear bumper....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  But I only need it to get through inspection before I put the highflows on with new 2 1/2 inch duals!!!
 
Anyway that was the last thing I needed to do before I could fire it up and take it around the block under it's own power.
 
Car fired up fine, took awhile for the lifter to pump up though, and then the power steering high pressure line started leaking at the box, not sure why but some chemical resistant Gas fitters tape and it sealed that right up.
 
So here are a couple pics....
 
Click for larger image....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/051/14218928_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14218928/)
 

(http://img4.pictiger.com/7fb/14218931_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14218931/)
 
You can see in the engine pic that I have rerouted the heater hoses.  I used an inner fender heater hose bracket from a 69 A/B body and re bent it and mounted it to one of the inner fender bolt studs.  I like having my heater hoses out of the way, and I think it looks better than the factory routing.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/5ea/14219064_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14219064/)
 
Also the air cleaner has been slightly modified as well.  I traded a drive shaft for this air cleaner, the guy already removed the single snorkle and so I left it alone, I kind of like the look.  But since the motor is a 71 and the aircleaner is 68/69 the valve cover breather is on the wrong side of the motor.  I had to use a breather from a mid 70's slant six so at least it looked right for the car.  I didn't want to run a hose around behind the motor for the air breather so I bought an after market universal breather nipple and mounted it on the underside of the aircleaner base on the pass side.
 
You can also see my homemade positive battery cable, I used one off a 78 newyorker and then added and modified it from other junkyard pieces.  Once everything lined up I rewrapped it in the factory style cloth tape and it looks very original. IMHO(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
The car runs fine, nice and smooth and lots of get up and go.  But there does seem to be an issue with the brake booster I think.  I have almost no power to the pedal while idling it's only after driving so I have enough vacuum to stop the car properly.  So I guess I will be installing my new booster and aluminum master cylinder sooner than I thought. 
 
So it was a GOOD DAY for me!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
 
 
thrashingcows2008-02-25 00:15:44
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 17, 2008, 06:23:53 PM
Congrats!! Good Job!!
Before you condemn the booster,try another check-valve that is stuffed in it.
I had experienced in the past with my '68 that valve would be stuck or blown apart inside .I keep spares for the JIC moments when I have to two-foot-it off the highway !! LOL!!
CBarge2008-02-18 00:08:49
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 24, 2008, 06:08:12 PM
I have been working on the little things to get the car ready for inspection. 
 
I pulled the front drums off and checked the brakes, they were in great shape.  I cleaned and repacked the front bearings and replaced the flex lines as well, the originals were cracking pretty bad. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 

So I gave the car a bit of a Carb tune up and got the car 20-21 inches of vacuum and the booster seems to work a bit better but if I apply the brakes too much then it goes rock hard.
 
Quote from: CBarge
Congrats!! Good Job!!
Before you condemn the booster,try another check-valve that is stuffed in it.
I had experienced in the past with my '68 that valve would be stuck or blown apart inside .I keep spares for the JIC moments when I have to two-foot-it off the highway !! LOL!!
 
I didn't realize that it was supposed to be a check valve...I always thought that they were just an open tube to the manifold vacuum.  I'll pick up a new one and see if this helps.
 
 

I had to replace the turn signal switch today, the original was cracked and falling apart, I had a decent one in a spare steering column from a 69 C-body.  So I pulled apart the 69 column to get the turn signal switch out then had to pull the switch out of the wagon.  Easier pulling out an old switch then to feed in a new one that's for sure....
 
So several hours later and a fair amount of disassembly I had the good switch in and working.  But then I had fast turn signals on the drivers side and one or maybe two blinks and then nothing on the drivers side.  I figured it must be a bad ground so I went through all the lights and checked and cleaned the grounds, still the same....so I decided to check the flasher relay...well it was burnt out on one side of the relay....replaced it with a spare one I had and now everything works perfect!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
I checked all the lights and only have the pass side fender mounted turn signal that isn't working. 
 
So maybe in a week or so I can get it inspected and then can take it for a real drive!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
thrashingcows2008-02-24 23:09:54
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on February 24, 2008, 06:58:09 PM
Go Man Go (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Sounds like Polaraco
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 25, 2008, 01:05:06 AM
Those fender mount turn signals may only neeed to be grounded to light up.If you are replacing the bulb,they take an 1895 bulb.
You need to be a circus contortionist to get to it from behind the headlights under the fender.I find using a 1/4 drive with u-joint on a medium extension works perfect.5/16 socket.
When the light is off the fender,get a screw driver up under to clean it up for good ground.Clean the socket housing for the same.
If the socket is no good,let me know.I have spares.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on February 25, 2008, 08:47:55 AM
I've heard that when you change turn signal switches, you remove the wires from the plug, tape a long shoe string to the wires and gently pull the old switch out until the shoe string comes out at the steering wheel end of the column.  Then, take the wires of the new switch and tape them to the shoe string, and reverse the procedure.   Am I missing somethign?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on February 25, 2008, 03:13:32 PM
No,you got it,Carrman.
Stupid me CUT the wires and had to splice,sauder,shrink tube each and every wire back onto the plug end..
From a couple of years ago...

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 01, 2008, 04:33:45 PM
The old one I just jut the wires and yanked it out....but feening a shoe string through while pulling the old one out makes sense. 


 
I at least pulled the pins out of the connector, after making a diagram on were they went, not like you Lea...cutting the wires....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif).....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 01, 2008, 04:49:06 PM
Well the car was almost ready for inspection but I couldn't get the brakes to lock up, or even work properly consistently.  Two footin' it sometimes...worked fine other times...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
I was rolling back and forth trying to get the brakes to lock up and was two footin' it when I heard vacuum leaking out from under the dash.....well guess I have to replce the booster...may as well do my upgrade while I'm at it.
 
Anyway pulled the booster and master today....not a bad job...way easier than when I did the booster in my 68 B-body years ago.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)
 
So got the system out and went to install my new booster and ooops....it would go all the way in...turns out the newer style booster, which I was told was a direct replacement for my car, has too big a hub on the back side of the booster to clear the hoe in the booster plate and firewall.
 
Click for larger image
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/680/14379949_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14379949/)
 
So I had to grind open the hole with the old Dremmel...took an hour or so but eventually I got it to fit properly.  Only had to open it about a 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch. 
 
Click for larger image
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/765/14379927_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14379927/)
 
So if anyone is going to install a newer style booster just beware that you may need to modify things a wee bit.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
So since I was installing the new disc brake booster I thought I may as well install my new 2 bolt aluminum master and adapter.  There was enough extra brake line to bend them carefully up and forward to mate up with the new master cylinder. 
 
Click for larger image
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/2ca/14379940_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14379940/)
 
So everything seems to work good now...it was raining and hailing so I only moved it a few feet forward and back in the garge but it seemd to lock them up pretty easy now!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
So hopefully I will get it in for inspection in a couple days.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 01, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
Oh I also messed around with my tailgate...rear window would only go up about half way and then stop.  I pulled all the weather stripping, some was twisted and bent pretty bad, starightened everything the best I could but it was still binding against the seals. 
 
So I used some heavy pliers into the channel and then pryed them gently open to expand the clearance on the side weatherstrip channels.  Now the rear window scoots up and down with no problems....I also lubed all the mechanislms with new white lithium grease.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on March 02, 2008, 11:39:41 AM
I just went through all the posts since I last left this thread. You
have been a busy busy dude, glad to see so much progress being made on
the T/C. Quick question, since the T/C has power drum all around does
the disc booster offer more pressure to the drums?

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 02, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
Quick question, since the T/C has power drum all around does the disc booster offer more pressure to the drums?
 
OH YEAH!!!!  I nearly went through the windshield when I hit the brakes.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley26.gif)  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
I'm going to have to develope a very light brake foot.  But I wasn't going to buy a drum brake booster to only run for 6 months or less.  I'll be going to my 73 C-body disc brakes in a couple months when I rebuild the front end.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 04, 2008, 10:37:45 AM
Well took the wagon through inspection today....it didn't pass...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif)
 
It only failed on some minor things. 
 
The vent windows wouldn't roll open, I knew this but didn't figure it would be safety related but all the glass has to function properly.  I have spare roll open vent windows for spare parts.
 
One or two dash light bulbs aren't working....you can stil see everything but ALL the lights have to work.
 
The battery terminals were loose...I never tighten mine down but I guess I'll have to at least for the re-inspection.
 
The front U-joint needs replacing...I did the rear but the front seemed fine...oh well easy fix.
 
And then the biggie was the front strut rod bushings are shot...too much play for his liking so I now need to replace those before the re-inspection.  (see thread in tech)
 
Anyway I have 30 days to get re-inspected on just these few things and then I can finally get it registered and insured.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2008, 11:50:29 AM
I love short lists
 
Good Job Brian.  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
That was a shorter list then the Polaraco had.  But I guess Polaraco had potential of being longer for all the changes.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on March 04, 2008, 12:10:29 PM
What inspection?  We don't have no steenking inspections.......(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2008, 02:08:42 PM
That's because you Orgoonies use dem dare cars like flower pots. 
 
They don't have to steer as long as the seats are good.  You need something to sit and watch the Marajawana plants grow.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on March 04, 2008, 04:09:56 PM
Thats a rough inspection, sheesh. Well I guess its not to bad, I'm sure
she'll pass next time around Brian. The Joisey Inpections here are
pretty much cake, excet if you get one of the people whose had a crap
day , chances are you will fail(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on March 04, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Actually, the only other inspection I know of that comes close to that is Pennsylvania. 
 
Except for the bulbs and wing vent, I don't think they were asking for much.  You did a great job!
 
I'm actually impressed with the inspection.  Even if it is a pain.
 
POLARACO2008-03-04 23:10:13
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 04, 2008, 05:19:39 PM
The only time a car here in BC has to have an inspection like this is if it's brought in from another province/state or country.  Otherwise people drive around in P's.O.S that shouldn't be let out of the driveway!!! 
 
A couple weeks and I'll have her ready for re-inspection...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 09, 2008, 09:26:39 PM
Yesterday I did the dash lights....not too bad...but my big hands and tight dash spaces don't always make the job easy.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)   Aslo put in the new front U-joint so now I'm only waiting on the vent windw cranking mechanisms and I'll be ready for re-inspection....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on March 13, 2008, 08:17:18 AM
Geeze Brian, That sounds like a whole crap load of work. I say I have a
few more years of learning in the Hobby School of Mechanics till I
attempt a job like that. I wish you luck on your re-inspection!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on March 13, 2008, 10:26:21 AM
i hope you pass.
fortunatly we don't have inspections here in Redneck Country(Michigan),
if we did i'd never drive. good to see that T/C almost done
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 17, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
Well over the weekend I thought I would try and weld up the crack in my pass side HP manifold. 
 
I know welding cast is tricky at the best of times but I found a company that sells special welding rods for all kinds of applications.  SO I bought their manifold welding kit, which requires no pre-heating or special cooling, just V out the crack and weld.
 
Click for larger image....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/719/14569010_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14569010/)
 
So I'm not a bad stick welder, no formal training other than lots of practice and picking info from professionals heads for years.  SO I was fairly confident that things would turn out OK....Well you bee the judge....
 
Click for larger image....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/f94/14569015_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14569015/)
 
Well I used up the 2 anchoring rods, couldn't get the heat right or the weld to flow, even folowing the instructions from their website.  Anway after you use the anchoring rod you go over right back over with a machinable rod...it just kept cooking and blowing holes in the manifold.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
So anyway the end result was what you see....worse than when I started but a lesson learned I guess.
 
So now I need a new pass side HP manifold....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif).....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
thrashingcows2008-03-17 22:15:35
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Mike on March 18, 2008, 05:14:29 PM
Aw Brian, that sucks man at least you made a valient effort. I would
mention to that company their welding kit has some flaws. Good luck on
your manifold hunt.
Potatoe2008-03-18 21:17:34
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2008, 03:47:10 PM
Well been bidding on manifolds on e-bay...but keep getting knocked out at the last second...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  Oh well that's E-bay.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  Will keep at it.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Got the vent window cranking mechanism from Chris last week and got them installed today...THANKS CHRIS!!!!.....now everything that was on the re-inspection list is DONE!!!
 
Will make an apointment for the re-inspection next week and should finally be able to register the ol' girl and get proper moving permits and insurance....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on March 22, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
Brian
 
That was a right low performance exhaust manifold you needed?
 
I thnk I have one
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 23, 2008, 10:17:33 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
Brian
 
That was a right low performance exhaust manifold you needed?
 
 
No I'm looking for the right HP manifold...I have several low flow ones...Thanks anyway...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 27, 2008, 01:38:11 PM
IT PASSED!!!!


 
 
Well it went through inspection today and passed....I got it registered in BC and now I cna get proper permits and insurance if desired.  I also had to pay the tax on the car a second time...first when I came through teh US/Canada border and now agin when I registered it...what a scam having to pay tax twice on the purchase price!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
Oh well...now it's get the car ready for exhaust and I'm working on rebuilding the spare front end form the 300, will do a one day swap of the front end when it's ready to go.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on March 29, 2008, 08:30:55 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on April 08, 2008, 09:30:55 PM
Well I have been working a bit on getting the spare front suspension apart and ready for blasting.
 
Have learned a few things while I've been at it so I thought I would share.
 
First is the upper control arms.  The bushings can be removed quite easily without any fancy tools.  The outer washer on the bushings, the large end, is just pressed into the center shaft, so if you clamp the big end into a vice and then twist it will POP off. 
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/e68/14823401_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14823401/)
 
 
With this off you can now use fire, (love to play with fire..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)), to heat up the center shaft and then slide it out.  Now pry out the rubber bushing and all you have to do is pound the outer shells inwards and then out.  I used my buddies plazma cutter on three of them before I discovered this.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/957/14823403_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14823403/)
 
So next was the lower control arm bushings.  I had my shop press out the center shaft, then I used my dremel and a small cutoff blade to cut mostly through the shell surrounding the center shaft.  Cut almost all the way through but not quite, then use a cold chisel to bang down the center of the cut and it cracks and popped off. 
 
The real fun was the outer shell in the lower control arm.  I tried the, "weld on a thick washer and pound out the shell"  but my little wire feed wouldn't get enough penatration on the metal so it kept comming off after a few hits.  The I decided to try and cold chisel my way though, well this worked to about half way down the shell then I couldn't get the chisle to grab any more material.  So next I tried heating up the shell to glowing red and trying to pry/bend the shell inwards...nope didn't work either.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
So I returned to the old dremel tool.  I used some grinding stones to start with but after only a minute or two the stone would explode, I went through three stones before I figured out what was happening.  The stones were not made for grinding heavy metal so they were generating too much heat and then exploding.  So my solution was to grind for about 10 seconds, then stop the dremel and dip the stone into water, then wait a few seconds, start the dremel and grind for another 10 seconds.....I did this until I ground almost all the way through the outter shell.  Then I used a old crappy flat screwdriver and pounded under the shell and it cracked down the middle., then all I had to do was bend both ends inward and the shell slid out....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/197/14823399_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/14823399/)
 
So after all this I cleaned everything in my new(old) parts washer and discovered that my idea of running a fuel filter to replace the origianl bag style filter was only good for about 10 minutes....So I switched to the original bag filter and it lasted about 15 miutes before clogging up.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley26.gif)  Then I decide to run the washer with no filter...Much better!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
So all my parts are now clean and ready for blasting....then I can paint and reassemble the new front end.  Hope to have it ready to bolt in by the end of April.  But the new Exhaust comes first.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2008, 05:09:45 PM
Well been a while since I updated what's been going on with the wagon.
 
Well I got my new (used) pass. side HP manifold, remember the crack that didn't weld up so good...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)   So I removed the old low flows and started to install the new HP manifolds, got the pass side on and then installed the drivers side HP manifold.
 
Now I had picked up a 70-73 C-body 383/440 HP manifold so time ago, love the look of the manifold with the raised rims down the side, but when I installed it on the wagon it just didn't look right in the engine bay.  I sis a lot of soul searching so to speak and I finally decided that I wouldn't be happy with the 70-73 HP manifold so I am going to get a proper 68/69 HP manifold for the drivers side and install that instead.
 
So since I decided to wait and get another HP manifold I could no longer get my new exhaust installed.  SInce it will probably be a couple weeks until the new manifold shows up I decided to rebuild the front end in the wagon while I wait.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on April 28, 2008, 08:07:37 PM
So I pulled the front end...I borrowed a front end removal tool kit from Crappy Tire..worked great and made disassembly quick and painless.  As well as the torsion bar removal tool from a buddy....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Click for larger image... 
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/41b/15071250_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15071250/)
 
 
Since the exhaust and front end were off I figured I'd have lots of room to install the 71 disc/drum brake prop. valve for the old drum/drum set-up, since I'll be installing the 73 disc set-up.
 
I found out that the drum/drum set-up is very different to the disc drum, brake line feed that is.  So I had to cut the ends off each line and install different fittings then re-flare the ends and then hand bend the lines into the right ports on the prop. valve.  Looks like hell but it will work for now.  I'll order new brake lines later this year.
 
So since that is done I could move on up to the front end reassembly.
 
I got the front end mostly installed, but was having a problem installing the bushings into the brackets on the sway bar.  Advice from board members led me to drill through the spot welds and then cut down between the seam with the sawsall and make a piece that can be bolted in...works great now!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Click for larger image...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/ffa/15071245_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15071245/)
 
So I installed the center links and bushings and hung the sway bar in place but there seemed to be a problem.....the sway bar ends were not in the right place by each of the strut rods??  
 
 Now I used the front end components from the 71 300 and just assumed that the sway bars, like most of the other pieces, would be the same...we'll I was wrong...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
Seems the original 68 sway bar is a bit shorter and has a slightly different bend to the ends than the 71 300 style.  So I am also assuming then that the strut rods would have been a different length as well as the torsion bars,  So I guess there are a few components in the front ends that are different in slabsides and fusey C-bodies....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
 

I also found out through questions on this board and others the difference in the inner and outer tie rod ends.  The inner tie rod is the LH thread and the outer tie rod is the RH thread.  Not that it really matters but I'm a little obsesive about these kind of details so I wanted it to be right.
 
So I have a few things left to do on the front end but will get to them in the next week or so.
 
Here's were what the front end looks like so far...
 
Click for larger image...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/1d8/15071248_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15071248/)
 
 

thrashingcows2008-04-29 01:56:23
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on April 29, 2008, 01:57:04 AM
That is awesome,Brian.
The sway bar bushing trick is cool.I need to replace the sway bar bushings in the NY'er
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2008, 09:15:26 AM
Well I did some more measuring and stuff today and it sure looks like the two sway bars are the same....I can't figure out why then the bar was not lining up with the strut rod and bushing??
 
I'll try installing everything again and see if I can get it to line up properly....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2008, 03:19:31 PM
Well I've taken longer trying to install this damn sway bar than it took me to install most of the front end!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
I have been messing around now for a couple hours trying everything to get things to line up properly...I've switched between the 71 and 68 sway bars...won't line up...loosened the center links to give it some added place...still won't line up.
 
I finally decided to measure the length on the center links...I'm using the ones off the 71 300..so I measure from the top of the square braket to the shoulder on the top of the shaft and found the 71's were 3 3/8", now I measured the 68's the same way and they measure out to 3".(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
SO I think this must be what is throwing off my sway bar alignment, guess I'll have to drill and cut the originals and then see if I can THEN get things to line up.
 
But leaving out of town for work tomorrow morning so I will have to wait until the weekend to do this.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2008, 07:27:44 PM
Well the sway bar issue turns out to that you can NOT use a fusey sway bar and links or either part individually, in a slabside...the links are too long and the sway bar is a bit wider and bent slightly different and won't line up with the strut rods.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
So after discovering this I had to clean up the original swaybar and center inks and install them.  Everything lined up perfect after that.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
thrashingcows2008-05-12 15:44:42
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2008, 07:41:34 PM
So I went to install the front brakes over the weekend.  I didn't have a set of backing plates, since all I saved from the 73 newport was the spindles and the rotors, so I saved the backing plates from the 71 300 parts car and figured that it would be a direct swap....well I was wrong!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
Turns out the center "HAT" on the dust shields on 69-72 disc brake cars are not wide enough to accept the bigger inner bearing on the 73 rotors, as well the hat is too tall/long.   The rotor will not install properly, it bottoms out against the "hat" and won't seat, therefore nothing lines up.
 
Click for larger image...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/8c2/15227103_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227103/)
 
So I removed the dust shield and installed the rotor.  Then I had to figure out how much clearance I needed between the rear bearing hub and the dust shield.  So I used a very scientific method...various short sockets stuffed on my pinky finger and wiggled in behind the rotor and spindle....shorty 9/16 was the winner!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
So the I used this socket to mark off the area I needed to trim off the dust shield.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/63b/15227082_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227082/)
 
Then I cut it with the dremel.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/46e/15227090_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227090/)
 
Then it was install, test fit, remove and grind a bit more off here and there....did this several time before I had no rubbing between the rotor and dust shield.
 
thrashingcows2008-05-12 15:45:59
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2008, 07:51:48 PM
So now that the dust shields were working I could now install the calipers and brakes.
 
Now I installed the pass. side first, no real problems other than I had no idea how the anti-rattle spring was to be installed, I think I have it right?  Anyone...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/460/15227201_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227201/)
 
Finished up the pass. side and went to install the caliper on the drivers side and I couldn't get it over the rotor with the brake pads installed...I tried and tried but it just wouldn't fit...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
I thought maybe I had installed the wrong brake pads, one being for the front and one for the rear but after checking I could see they were all the same.  SO I pulled out my new dial caliper...from the good wife for christmas!!  And measured the distance between the inner and outer brake mounting faces...the proper pass. side measured out a 3.08 inches and the one that wouldn't fit measured 2.87inches...so a difference of almost 1/4 inch!!!
 
So it must have been a A/B/E body caliper and not a C-body..because it still would have bolted up to the mounting points.
 
SO I returned it to the jobber where I had got it and they brought me in a new one, which I checked before leaving.
 
I was then able to finish the front brakes.  I bled the system using my fancy one man bleeding machine...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/8c8/14118296_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/14118296/)
 
thrashingcows2008-05-12 15:47:14
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2008, 08:01:07 PM
So once the front end was basicly done I fabbed up some exhaust to get me up to the exhaust shop this week for my new dual exhaust.

I used the original Y-pipe off the low-po manifolds on the 71 300 and modified it to work with the 68-69 HP manifolds.  Not real pretty but will get me up to the shop quitely.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)


 
Click for larger image...


 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/986/15227315_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15227315/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/c84/15227327_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15227327/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/c08/15227331_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15227331/)
 
 
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 11, 2008, 08:06:50 PM
So this morning I put the front wheels on..now I have 3 RH thread and one LH thread....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  Guess I'll have to swap out the studs on the rear axle to make it an even 4 RH thread.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Put the car down on the ground and fired it up, took it up and down the street and adjusted the front end so it appears to be right.  Will get it down to the front end alignment shop in the next week or so.
 
Stops really well now, brings the ol' girl to a stop mighty quick now....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
So here are a few pics of the front end/brake rebuild all done...
 
Click for larger image...
 
 (http://img4.pictiger.com/f67/15227406_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227406/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/e0c/15227407_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227407/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/c1f/15227409_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15227409/)
 
 
 
 
 
 
thrashingcows2008-05-12 01:13:01
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2008, 08:20:52 AM
Wow. . .U been a busy boy.
 
That was great info on the backing plates. . . .
 
I have one stupid question though. . .
 
You ahhh ever heard of degreaser?  What a mess.  LOL (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) 
 
Just kidding. . .You did a superb job detailing.  How do you keep your hands so clean. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Matt Aker on May 12, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
Spectacular werk Brian! (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
 
Your metal-fab skills impress me!  I used to do those things too...  Good luck on the exhaust, I hope they make it sound like you want it!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 12, 2008, 03:00:33 PM
Brain probably uses Tim Horton's coffee to degrease his hands!! LOL!!
CBarge2008-05-12 20:01:07
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: CBarge
Brain probably uses Tim Horton's coffee to degrease his hands!! LOL!!
 
You should have seen the back of the moving truck 3 years ago...all Timmy box's...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Quote from: Moparmatt
 Your metal-fab skills impress me! 
 
thrashingcows2008-05-12 20:50:46
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Matt Aker on May 12, 2008, 04:04:43 PM
Still...  Good job Brian!  (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 04:26:41 PM
Well tuesday is the big day...well one of them at least...New Exhaust goes on...will have pics and info later tomorrow night.
 
Won't be able to sleep well tonight because I'm so excited....(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif)(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/dancing.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 12, 2008, 04:53:23 PM
Ey yi yi...I better get a move on the Boab..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Brian you are getting closer as I am still far from being done!! LOL!!
Good work!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2008, 04:58:56 PM
GO TO SLEEP!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2008, 04:49:46 PM
SO I had my new exhaust go on Tuesday....would have posted something then but wife got into a car acident with my 2 girls on the way to ballet.  Just a fender bender...woman made an illegal left turn right in front of her and BOOM. 

 
Everyone is fine but car has at least 2K damage....Anyway here are a few before pics of the quality junkyard home brewed exhaust I had on the car to get me through inspection and up and down the road quitely.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) 
 


 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/302/15286757_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286757/)
 

The fancy paper thin exhaust tail pipe....actually this was originaly the pass side, the car was originally dual exhaust but most of it was rotten and torn off so I patched and made stuff work.

(http://img4.pictiger.com/c95/15286784_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286784/)
 
And the look from behind.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/a0d/15286744_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286744/)
 
 
 
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2008, 04:55:29 PM
Is that a drain plug on the bottom of the trans pan?  I put on on Polaraco
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2008, 04:57:04 PM
So now without further delay...pics of my new 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust with Dynomax super turbo mufflers....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
Here ar e the parts "I" supplied....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/cbd/15286781_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286781/)
 
Now here's what those parts look like installed...love those stainless band clamps.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/1bf/15286768_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286768/)
 
This is one of the nicest exhaust systems I've ever had done...the guy took 6 hours to do it and it shows...it's not mandrel bent but it is level and even as best as he gould get it and I'm very happy with it.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/3ce/15286778_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286778/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/2a5/15286774_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286774/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/aae/15286748_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15286748/)
 
Sounds Great too!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 17, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Is that a drain plug on the bottom of the trans pan?  I put on on Polaraco
 
Yup B&M after market tranny drain plug...have been installing them on all my 727's for a few years now.   Makes changing the fluid much easier.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on May 17, 2008, 05:39:27 PM
Looks GREAT TC!!!!!!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 20, 2008, 09:33:15 PM
Well Being the Canadian long weekend on monday...Right Leaburn...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)...I decided to pull the motor out fo the wagon....Didn't I just get the car running and driving....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Well started at about 10am and had the motor out by 4pm...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Here are a few pics taken along the way...
 
Click for larges images...
 
Ready to come out.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/85c/15331247_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331247/)
 
So who here thinks you can't pull a 440 out of a 68 T/C wagon without removing the hood....Well you'd be wrong...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
 
Part way up and lots of room for the hood...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/44b/15331248_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331248/)
 
Here it is over the rad support...I could have gone even higher without hitting the hood.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/f68/15331249_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331249/)
 
thrashingcows2008-05-21 02:33:51
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 20, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
So I bolted it up to the engine stand...had to get creative since only 3 of the 4 arms wanted to attatch to the motor....but got it mounted and stable.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/3f5/15331250_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331250/)
 
Spent the next 6 hours tearing things apart...finished up after midnight.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/52a/15331251_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331251/)
 
Not going to rebuild the motor this year...not in the budget and I don't have the time as well.
 
Just going to clean everything and install a new gasket and seal kit and some new parts, like a windage tray, oil pump, cam and lifters, tining chain...speaking of timing chain the motor still had the original plastic coated cam gear set-up....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/4aa/15331252_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331252/)
 
There are a bunch of cracks and some pieces missing too.
 
Also will be installing a set of low mileage rebuilt 906 heads and a spread bore intake.
 
Hope to have it ready to re-install next week.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 20, 2008, 09:42:33 PM
Today (tuesday) I took all the parts down to the U-blast shop and cleaned my Exhaust maniflds and intake, valve covers, oil pan, timming cover, pullies and brackets etc...
 
Will hopefully have the motor clean and ready to start re-assembly by Wednesday night.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 22, 2008, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: thrashingcows
 
 
So who here thinks you can't pull a 440 out of a 68 T/C wagon without removing the hood....Well you'd be wrong...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
 
Part way up and lots of room for the hood...
 
 (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331248/) 
Here it is over the rad support...I could have gone even higher without hitting the hood.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/f68/15331249_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15331249/)
 
Been there..done that in 2004...Yep no hood removal required.
Oh..and uh...left-handed people are always right!! LOL!!! Heh Heh (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on May 22, 2008, 05:55:15 PM
Brian
 
Do you have your official Mopar Paint for that?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 22, 2008, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Brian
 
 
I have a half can I bought probably 10 years ago from my chrysler dealership...actually stopped by today to pick up a couple more cans but they don't have any in stock and will have to order some from Toronto Ontario...I think Leaburn is hogging all the Chrysler Turqoise....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 22, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
But Lea you removed your rad support...so it don't count....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Tom Atkinson on May 23, 2008, 12:55:59 AM
I noticed that too.  What kind of fun is that?  Lot of wasted time taking off the front end and I'll bet it kills 90% of the fun. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 23, 2008, 03:45:41 AM
I removed the rad core support after pulling the engine.
I cleaned it up and painted the inner fenders and support.
...I do have a couple -no three cans of engine paint....LOL (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Oh, Brian you are much more faster pulling out the engine..
My New Yorker had its 440 pulled in January 2004 and was finally running in August of that year..
CBarge2008-05-23 08:54:06
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on May 23, 2008, 06:24:50 AM

Quote from: thrashingcows
But Lea you removed your rad support...so it don't count....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)

I once put a 427 side-oiler back into a 67 Shelby GT500 Mustang without scratching a thing! Hood was off, but rad support and oil pan were on....

You need vaseline on yer arms to change the spark plugs on that mill......

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 24, 2008, 10:15:17 PM
So Saturday I found out that you have to buy a complete rear main seal kit to get eh side seals for the rear seal housing.
 
So I intially said Ok to them bringing in me a few cans of paint but when they said it would be almost a week to ge them from a dealer 70KM away I decided to go for a drive instead... (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/e107_images/emoticons/tongue.png)
 
So this evening I got the new cam in, new timing chain and windage tray and oil pan installed.  Hope to get the rest of the motor assembled tomorrow.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on May 25, 2008, 05:55:35 AM
Keep going. . . (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
You're making better progress than I am on VOAB.  I haven't even gotten the cover off of it yet
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on May 25, 2008, 04:12:57 PM
Wow, you're on fire! I quit using the Mopar paint after the last engine in the convertible. I now use Bill Hirsch's paint and it's great.  It  wears like iron. It's not cheap but you get what you pay for.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 25, 2008, 04:53:27 PM
I have no problem with the Mopar paint.
...Then again,I do buy it in bulk!!! LOL!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2008, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: CBarge
I have no problem with the Mopar paint.
 
That's only because you live near the main Chrysler Canada warehouse....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2008, 07:38:39 PM
Well I've been bust the last few days working on the motor and the car.....Here's my progress.
 
Got the motor assembled on Sunday....Looking pretty now....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/ad9/15431288_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431288/)
 
Dropped it into the car monday afternoon....went in with almost no fuss...just had to tweek the tranny to get the dowls to line up but motor mounts dropped right on....Gotta love an easy install....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/2e6/15431293_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431293/)
 
I didn't install a pad under the intake so I was able to use my 5100lb strap to lift the motor into the car....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2008, 07:44:08 PM
So after the motor was installed I painted the manifolds with my "NEW" can of eastwood stainless silver paint...why they call it stainless I have no idea since it's a dull grey...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
Anyway my old can was over 10 years old and I had painted probably a dozen manifolds with that can over the years...the can says it's only good for 1 year unopened and 6 months opened...I say BULL...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/002/15431304_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431304/)
 
So today (tuesday) I spent most of the day cleaning small parts and painting them before putting them back on my nice clean engine.  
 
I installed my new Sanden A/C compressor with the Bouchillion engine brackets.  Here is a side by side pic of the new compressor and the old RV2 unit....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/9e8/15431297_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431297/)
 
Think this drops like 20lbs off the front end....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
I installed all the pullies and brackets and got the new compressor installed.  Also put on the HP manifolds and stuff.  Found out that my Eddy 625 Carb that was a junkyard score has the dual pattern bolt holes so I didn't have to use my adapter plate to run the carb on the spread bore manifold.
 
I'm only running the eddy for the initial cam break in period since I know the carb work good and the Thermoquad I have is not tested or tuned yet.
 
So here are a few pics of where I left off this evening...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/bfc/15431309_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431309/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/34e/15431315_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431315/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/70c/15431320_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/15431320/)
 
Looks a lot better than it was....hope to have it running and driving by early next week...will keep you posted.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jimmy on May 28, 2008, 03:26:54 AM
   Car is looking great Brian,won't be long now. I'm really liking that a/c setup.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 02, 2008, 08:57:47 PM
Well got some good work done today...got everything in the engine bay hooked up and installed and got the ol' girl running "again"....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Car started right up....I primed the oil system...nearly burnt out my 3/8 drill doin it.  I filled the carb up manually to make sure it had fuel right away and ten sucked onthe fuel line to make sure I had fuel to the carb.
 
Only problem was the dizzy was out 180...fired right up and set the idle to 2000rpm and ran at that speed for 20 minutes...I also installed a bottle of Comp Cams engine additive...has all the Zinc and other stuff the oil companies have removed from the oil...that our old engines NEED.
 
So here's the way she looked today...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/5a1/15507324_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15507324/)
 
She's a lot smoother and running very well.  I'll be installing the Thermoquad hopefully tomorrow and maybe my HEI dizzy.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 02, 2008, 09:05:56 PM
Will hopefully get my underhood kit on the way tomorrow from Bouchillion...I needed a few extra fittings for the rear A/C ssytem I want to install down the line.  SO I'm going to put the "T" fittings in now while I'm at it.
 
So once I had the car runnign and driving today I decded it was time to install the new rear shakle bushings and rear KYB shocks.
 
Heres a couple before and after pics of the shakles....
 
Before...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/de4/15507326_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15507326/)
 
After...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/4a7/15507328_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15507328/)
 
The old shocks were old Monroes road handlers and the pass. side lower nut was only on with a coupke threads...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  And the drivers side lower shock mount didn't have a inner washer to hold the shock in place...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
So luckly I had a spare inner washer and tightened everything up good this time...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
 
Before...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/39f/15507329_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15507329/)
 
And after...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/be1/15507330_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15507330/)
 
Now down to the alignemnt shop to get the front end set up and I should be almost ready to cruise...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on June 06, 2008, 04:36:06 PM
Wow, tremendous progress!  I only wish I had gotten my wagon to that level.  At least it now has a new home where the new owner will finish what I started.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 06, 2008, 09:10:59 PM
Hey rob...where did the wagon end up going?
 
Oh and thanks for the kind words....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 06, 2008, 09:15:59 PM
Well I got the front end aligned on Wednesday June/04/08...and she now drives very nice!!!
 
Took the car out for a bit of a drive since I had the moving permit on it...seems I now need new motor mounts...should have replaced them when the motor was out...oops forgot those...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)  Seems there is about an inch flex in the drivers mount...noticed the exhaust started to rattle against the subframe so I had my buddy watch as I torqued the 440 up in the driveway.
 
Anyone have a prefrence on who to get mounts from?
 
Also seems that I have a bit of an oil leak from the rear of the pass. side valve cover and a small water leak from the lower rad hose...should be easy fixes this weekend.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 06, 2008, 09:22:37 PM
So I've been playing E-mail and phone tag with Bouchillion performance all week trying to get my under hood A/C kit figured out.
 
Many phone calls and e-mails later we finally figured out which kit would work for my car. 
 
Since I'm eventually going to be running a dual A/C system, and the location of the A/C lines behind the pass. side valve cover we came up with ther BPE6651 under hood kit.  But they are also including male and female fittings for the #6 and #10 A/C lines so I can tie into it later with a "T" to run the dual A/C.
 
They also had to measure the hose lengths in the kits to find out which one would have enough hose to run under the hood of a C-body.
 
I got it ordered today and it should be here in about a week.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
So big THANSK to Randy from Bouchillion for all the help and extra work to get this system figured out!!!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on June 07, 2008, 01:44:31 AM
Brian,

It actually hasn't left yet but it's 100% paid for.  The buyer is not yet sure if he's going to drive it home (it's ready and will make it) or ship it.  I suspect it will be gone by July 4th.  He's going to finish what I started.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2008, 01:32:45 PM
Well done a few things over the past week or so...
 
I installed the "Reman" Thermoquad I bought....you'd think the settings on the carb would be close wouldn't you...NOPE the adjustments were so far off it would run in the driveway but as soon as I gave it some gas the car died in the street.
 
So I had to strip down the carb and re-set everything myself properly.  The floats were set at two different settings, as well as the accelrator pump was set WAY to low, and then metering rod adjustment and air fuel adjustments were super rich.
 
Anyway set everything to were it should, now I need to do the fine tuning to get it to perform right.
 
I also had to bend my own choke rod since the choke set-up I had and the proper choke rod wouldn't work together.  A little time and a couple pliers and a small propane torch and I had a new rod that seems to be working great, with just a little tweeking to make it perfect.
 
I also decided that I was going to install my HEI dizzy that I bought for the 440...got it installed and just didn't like the look.  I had a HEI dizzy on a small block dodge and it tucked behind the aircleaner and ws not as noticeable, but the RB HEI dizzy almost hits the hood and just didn't look right.
 
SO I have a Petronix system on the way to replace the points in the stock 440 dizzy.
 
Here's a pic of the HEI and thermoquad...
 
Click for larger image...
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/c49/15682907_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15682907/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/f0a/15682924_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15682924/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/7f0/15682939_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/images/15682939/)
Images Gallery with PicTiger (http://www.pictiger.com)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on June 17, 2008, 01:41:18 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Yuk  You ever heard of engine cleaner????(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2008, 01:41:58 PM
I also installed new motor mounts since the motor was torking too much with the old mounts and was rattling off the drivers torsion bar.  It still rattled with the new mounts just not as bad.
 
I got the exhaust shop that did the exhaust to bend the pipe down a wee bit to clear the torsion bar.  No more rattling!!!
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2008, 01:49:35 PM
Hope to have it installed and working in a couple weeks at the most. (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/e107_images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on June 17, 2008, 03:20:40 PM
Brian,You should do another threads for the A/C install.
I am interested in it.Others with slab-sided C body's factory equipped A/C cars way also be interested.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2008, 06:09:14 PM
Will do...I'll gloss over here in this thread and do a more indepth thread in the A/C section.
 
I'll take a million pics and walk through everything as I go.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jimmy on June 17, 2008, 06:13:57 PM
   You know i'm waiting to see the a/c setup come together. All looking really good Brian I must say. 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 07:58:29 PM
Also discovered I need to balance the drive shaft...I just installed new Universals and slammed it in so I thought maybe I'd get lucky and not need to balance it..but it will get done next week.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Jimmy on June 20, 2008, 07:18:57 AM
   Brian, I had to adjust the pushrod on my new booster 3 times before it stopped dragging. A little at a time is the way to do it. It would be fine starting out but as the brakes heated up it would start to drag. After all was said and done I removed the front drums and "deglazed" the shoes and drums with a sheet of 80 grit, good to go.
 
jimmyray682008-06-20 12:43:02
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Bill Mounteer on June 20, 2008, 08:47:16 AM

Quote from: thrashingcows
Also discovered I need to balance the drive shaft...I just installed new Universals and slammed it in so I thought maybe I'd get lucky and not need to balance it..but it will get done next week.

Did you align the balance marks between the sliding yoke and the drive shaft?  I forgot to do that once and the drive shaft vibrated like crazy. I forget the configuration, but I think the u-joint mounts on each end of the drive shaft must be a quarter turn apart.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 20, 2008, 01:05:33 PM
Hey Bill....I have never heard that before?  I have heard if your drive shaft shakes to remove the rear  U-joint from the diff and give it a 180...so maybe this is the same deal?
 
I'll give that a try and see what happens.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 20, 2008, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: jimmyray68
   Brian, I had to adjust the pushrod on my new booster 3 times before it stopped dragging. A little at a time is the way to do it. It would be fine starting out but as the brakes heated up it would start to drag. After all was said and done I removed the front drums and "deglazed" the shoes and drums with a sheet of 80 grit, good to go.
 
 
Well this will be my second shot at it..so maybe third times the charm...yup as theey heat up the rear especially get worse.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Bill Mounteer on June 20, 2008, 03:11:08 PM

Quote from: thrashingcows
Hey Bill....I have never heard that before?  I have heard if your drive shaft shakes to remove the rear  U-joint from the diff and give it a 180...so maybe this is the same deal?
 


I'll give that a try and see what happens.

Not knowing what they are called, but I'm talking about the two arms on each end of the drive shaft that mount the u-joints.  If one end is vertical, the other has to be horizontal for balance. The diff end is fixed, but the transmission end can be rotated around depending on how you align the slip joint splines. Nor sure about Mopar, but IHC had an index mark that needed to be lined up to get the correct orientation.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2008, 08:42:28 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2008, 08:42:58 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 01, 2008, 09:22:51 PM
http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1318&PN=1 (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1318&PN=1)


 (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/forum_viewtopic.php?5.58915)thrashingcows2008-07-02 02:23:46
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 05, 2008, 06:33:43 PM
Copied from Tech thread....
 

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on July 05, 2008, 06:36:25 PM
The compressor running constanly can lead to freeze-ups, and shorten the service life of your compressor.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 08, 2008, 07:40:01 PM
Well I'll have to figure out WHY it won't cycle then...thanks Carman for the info.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2008, 09:09:10 PM
So I shouldn't have any cooling issues now... (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/e107_images/emoticons/grin.png)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
So now she fires right up...runs nice a smooth. (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/e107_images/emoticons/thumbsup.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2008, 08:57:13 PM
Figured I'd do an update in here too about the cars performance on the trip and other stuff...
 
Well before we left on the trip I cleaned the bulkhead connectors....I removed all 3 plugs then cleaned everything with acetone...then used some fine emery cloth to clean up the terminals...the main power in and out were quite corroded so I removed them from the casing and cleaned them up and reinstalled.   I then put dielectric grease over everythng and re-installed.
 
I did notice a big difference in the amount the amp meter moved under load conditions...before the amp meter would drop to almost half the discarge level when brakes were applied...now the guage drops maybe a 1/4...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
 
thrashingcows2008-07-30 01:57:52
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2008, 09:08:50 PM
So before we left I also installed a seperate wiring circuit to run multiple 12V units in the car.   Since I used a junkyard positive power lead from a 78 newyorker it had an extra power lead off the battery terminal so I tied into this with the factory connecton and then installed a 30A in-line glass fuseable link...and then ran a wire diractly through the firewall and up befind the ash tray.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/166/16239311_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239311/)
 
I bought a single to 3 socket adapter from crappy tire and then cut off the single lead and then wired in the 3 plug adapter through the back of the ash tray...the ash tray in the car is HUGE!!!  Once wired up I now have a seperate system that doesn't draw through the Amp meter.
 
I did this because I also bought a 12 volt fan to blow the cold A/C into the back of the car.  It worked perfect and clipped onto the dash and hung down directly in front of the center A/C vents...it has a high and low speed and also oscillates.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/1d9/16239309_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239309/)
 
I then bought a 12V AC to 120V DC adapter to run the wifes laptop so the kids could watch a movie near the end of the day when they were getting tired of traveling.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/341/16239310_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239310/)
 
And when everything is unplugged it tucks back into the ashtray and is not visible.
 
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I also installed a set of rear coil overload springs....they mount on the axle and run up from the axle to the axle bumpers and support the car.
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/5bd/16239303_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239303/)
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/27d/16239304_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239304/)
 

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2008, 09:15:05 PM
So with the car all loaded up, and with the overloads, it didn't sit any lower then when it was empty....
 
(http://img4.pictiger.com/d01/16239306_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239306/)
(http://img4.pictiger.com/c72/16239307_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239307/)
(http://img4.pictiger.com/f10/16239308_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/16239308/)
 
It was a good trip, almost 1000 miles and the car got 13 MPG...not bad for 2.5 tons throught he mountains!!
 
Wife and kids enjoyed the ride...no complaints other than having to pee and are we there yet....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on July 29, 2008, 09:21:36 PM
So other than I discovered I used the wrong grease on the front rotor hub bearings...I needed high temp stuff and I used regular so the grease started to leak out of the front hubs and onto the rims and then spray outwars....they never got hot..I kept checking once I saw what was happening.  So some new rear seals and a tube of proper grease will solve that problem.
 
The engine near the end of the journey also started to have a squeal from the front of the motor...most likely it's the idler pulley...anyone know if you can get new ones??  Or one of the belts has loosened ith all the heat and usage.  it would make noise under load but stop when you coasted.
 
Oh one other thing...I think I need to go to a heavier weight oil....I have 10W30 in there right now but with the high miles (over 100K) on the short block it was eating 1 litre of oil per 250 miles.  So I'll probably go to a SAE30 to help reduce oil consumption. 
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Matt Aker on July 30, 2008, 05:06:26 PM
SAE30 IS 10W-30 after the 10W-30 has been in there for a bit!  Try 10W-40 if you need to boost your oil pressure.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Matt Aker on July 30, 2008, 05:09:30 PM
Oh...  Congrats on your completed journey!  When can I say "WE TOLD YOU SO......"




 
Great job Brian! (http://moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2008, 12:16:06 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2008, 12:16:30 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2008, 12:16:52 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2008, 09:58:28 AM
Thoughts, opinions??
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 29, 2008, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: thrashingcows
Thoughts, opinions??
Nothing to think about here.  Yer gonna HAVE to drop the tank.
ughhh......
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
May as well do over the whole tank. . . .  You put allot of time and money into the car. . . . Finish the job abd be done with it.
 
They have been known to rot on the bottom and under the straps at the top. 
 
I strongly urge you do not try to fix the tank yourself though. . . .  Let someone else blow up his shop.  Soldering a gas tank can be dangerous. 
 
I also suggest you get the eastwood kit and line the tank before you put it back in.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2008, 07:45:19 AM
No worries Steve Icould braze to save my life...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
I will probably pull the tank and send it out for that "Renew" liner process.  Not cheap but will never leak again.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on August 30, 2008, 04:53:12 PM
Renew is good stuff. A shop used it in both my 300 and Newport Custom before repros. were available.  6 years and no leaks. 
 
The idler pulleys are available from Bouchillion Performance in South Carolina. They're pretty cheap I think.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2008, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: rbrogle
Renew is good stuff. A shop used it in both my 300 and Newport Custom before repros. were available.  6 years and no leaks. 
 
 
Thanks for the heads up on the renew and the Idler pulley Rob....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on August 31, 2008, 02:26:36 AM
Quote from: rbrogle
Renew is good stuff.
 
MEMO: To self.
 
  File under: "Repair", "Gas Tanks"
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2008, 07:40:37 PM
And then lots of spit and polish on the car...when I get time.(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on December 07, 2008, 10:48:07 AM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:25:42 PM
Thanks for all the advice on how to tighten down the spindle nut....(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:26:34 PM
(http://img4.pictiger.com/8d5/17629295_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/17629295/)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:27:08 PM
Took a few minutes from gentle and careful grinding to free the bracket from it's rivets but it did come loose.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:27:46 PM
(http://img4.pictiger.com/b95/17629320_th.jpg) (http://brianhansenbc.pictiger.com/albums/3271/17629320/)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
So other than that it was a pretty basic swap...now the snow and salt need to go away so I can take it for a test drive.(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 05, 2009, 01:32:14 PM
Guess they were waiting on a new shipment of front bars and he said he dropped them off for powder coating today and should have it in the mail for me by the end of the week...so hopefully next week sometime I'll have my new front bar.....(http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/giggedy.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2009, 08:45:02 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2009, 08:45:29 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
No leaks I could see or hear so I reinstalled eveything and was done. (http://www.cbodydrydock.com/e107_images/emoticons/banana.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2009, 08:46:30 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on January 20, 2009, 06:40:14 AM
Probably would have been less expensive to have it delivered to Leaburns buddy and have him sneak it over and ship it again to you.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 20, 2009, 10:12:53 AM
Well the shipping was $20 since Firm feel is in WA state and that is were my US shipping addy is....it was the damn taxes and duties...and the poor exchange rate that killed me...$295 for the bar then WA state tax, then converted to Canadian for a total of $430 Cdn then 13% tax on that....another $50 please....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)...so this was almost a $500 upgrade for the wagon.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 20, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
Shoulda duct-taped it to the chassis and drove over with it.....

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 20, 2009, 01:03:25 PM
Quote from: stitcherbob
Shoulda duct-taped it to the chassis and drove over with it.....
 
I got in trouble witht he border many years ago, when I was young and dumb.....trying to do just this, sneak parts accross...aint worth it!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 20, 2009, 02:04:16 PM
Ya gotta be creative.....stick the bar in a rust hole in the fender and hang a Canadian flag from it....they would say you're patriotic!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 20, 2009, 04:28:20 PM

Patriotic Canadian is an oxymoron...(http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/tongue38.gif)
Commando12009-01-20 21:28:55
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on January 20, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
Wha'd you call him????

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Ken on January 20, 2009, 05:34:31 PM
At least the Canadians knew to keep Bill Ayers from coming in!  That's pretty patriotic right there (good on ya, Loonies) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2009, 09:19:54 PM
Quote from: Commando1
Patriotic Canadian is an oxymoron...(http://www.massmopar.com/yabb/Smilies/tongue38.gif)
 
Well you got half that right...I'm a ...Moron sometimes....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 24, 2009, 09:12:03 PM
Quite a big difference between the origianl 15/16 bar and the new 1 1/8 bar.... (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 24, 2009, 09:12:54 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 24, 2009, 09:13:29 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 24, 2009, 09:13:57 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on February 25, 2009, 06:21:24 AM
Nice work!!!



Also could we keep the  gratuitous POLITICS OUT OF THESE THREADS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's plenty of other more appropriate places if emotional release is needed.



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: James Brown Jr, on February 25, 2009, 06:49:27 AM
i bet you'll really enjoy the change
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 25, 2009, 08:16:28 AM
[/QUOTE]
 
Hard to say really????
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on February 25, 2009, 08:35:33 AM
I'm talking about the blatant Obama/Ayers dig... no reason for that here...  GET OVER IT!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on February 25, 2009, 08:38:50 AM
Moderators, like.... ARE POLITICS NOT OFF TOPIC? or only when you disagree?!!





Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 25, 2009, 10:56:26 AM
Quote from: firedome
I'm talking about the blatant Obama/Ayers dig... no reason for that here...  GET OVER IT!
 
 
Ahh  I had to go back and try and figure out what you meant...I didn't think I had posted anything political in nature but I saw the remark made my Mosey last month.
 
Personally I just ignore the posts I don't agree with and pretend they are not there and not dignify them with a response.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on February 26, 2009, 05:03:16 AM
Sounds like a plan... sorry to get sidetracked...  btw, I remember
well a day in late '67 when my Dad brought home a '67 T & C that
was used and he was checking it out to buy for myy Mom, as he liked his
'67 Fury III company car, the dealer let him take the wagon home - all
dark turquoise paint and NO wood trim. 383 4 bbl. I loved it, but he
looked it over carefully that evening and found evidence it had been
hit hard in the side, bondo & repaint overspray, and took it back
next day. Ended up buying a '68 Ford Country Squire - not 1/2 the car
the Chrysler was!  But that's when he gave me our family '63 Ford
Country Sedan... my first car! Great car for dating... the back 2 rows
of seats folded down flat! 

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on February 27, 2009, 09:02:55 PM
67 T/C wagons did not have woodgrain...the 68's were the first year...and best looking IMHO.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
 
Before I bought my wagon I was looking at a running and driving california rust free 67 T/C but I just wasn't a fan of the front end treatment and then the lack of woodgrain...so I bet you can guess what car I picked.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on February 28, 2009, 03:44:57 AM
There's omething special about big Chrysler wagons, '65 to '78... I'd
love to have one again. I had a '72 T & C in the early 90s, great
car, but for a DD, it was expensive, at 9-12 mpg!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 08, 2009, 05:40:14 PM
Well I had/have some problems with a rear vibration...here's a link to the doin's.
 
 Part I
 
http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2611 (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2611)
 
 
 Part II
 
http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2653 (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2653)
thrashingcows2009-08-08 22:44:46
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 08, 2009, 05:40:58 PM
And now a link to the thread about removing the rear trim to install grab handles.
 
 http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2661 (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2661)
 
 
thrashingcows2009-08-08 22:42:51
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 08, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
Well I spent some time this afternoon working on getting those mouldings off.
 
First I pulled one side of the interior panels off hoping, as DCF suggested, that they were bolted through...Nope just a tight spot welded panel.
So then I went with the advice that they were a "pop" on/off deal. So I gathered some tools and had at it.
Here's what I used,
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/Misc/PICT0836.jpg)
 
Slowly worked under the lowest edge adn then used the wood and plast shims on either side to slowly move up the moulding and pushing it off.  When I finally got it off the moulding clips over the edge of the two panels that are welded together.
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/Misc/PICT0838.jpg)
 
Here's a pic of the clips in the moulding...they have a V-shape plastic guide to keep things tight.
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/Misc/PICT0839.jpg)
 
As you can see I did not anticipate that the upper moulding would be different between a car optioned with factory grab handles and those without... :doh:
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/Misc/PICT0842.jpg)
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/Misc/PICT0843.jpg)
 
So now I have to find the upper moulding before I progress further.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: 300rag on August 08, 2009, 06:46:54 PM
Is it not possible to shorten the existing trim?  BTW the handles look great.300Rag2009-08-08 23:47:35
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 08, 2009, 07:49:08 AM
Well I see the image hosting site I was using has shut down and re-opened under new management...so now all my pics are gone.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
 
Now I will have to go back and re-post evey pic.......(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 10:18:27 AM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 09, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
one thing leads to anudder...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
Well I've decided to attempt a grill upgrade on the wagon.  I know many of you have come across "The Sled" while searching on-line.  Now for those that don't know what "The Sled" is it's a 1968 Chrysler T/C wagon that has a 68 300 grill installed. 
This particular car is the reason I wanted a 68 T/C wagon for myself!!
Here's a pic of, The Sled,
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/sled2.jpg)
Now when I bought my wagon the fellow also had a complete, but lightly damaged 68 300 grill.  So we worked that into the deal.  It has been sitting and waiting for the day I decided to attempt this upgrade.
So the following posts will show you what I've done so far and what is/will be needed to do and all the problems that will either have to be rectified or worked around. 
This is not going to be an easy job!!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on November 09, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
That will be soooo hot!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 11:13:53 AM
Now here is the front of the car all original....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1060.jpg)
So I started pulling apart the grill.  Thanks to the low miles and rust free enviroment it was in everthing came apart quite easily.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1066.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1067.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1075.jpg)
So there everything is out of the way, including the cross brace and vertical support.
Next the intial grill install....
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 11:18:47 AM
So here is the first trial fit....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1083.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1088.jpg)
But as you can see the grill doesn't quite fit right.  It is sticking out too far. 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1089.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1090.jpg)
And I think there is going to be clearance issues.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1091.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1092.jpg)
Next is the beginning of the modifications...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 11:32:42 AM
I figure I need to move the grill in close to 3 inches.
So the original mounting brackets were close to bolting up, but due to the grill sticking out too far I will have to remove the brackets and do some trimming of the grill. 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1094.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1099.jpg)
And here you can see the oringinal mounting stud is hitting the rad support so it will need to be removed.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1097.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1098.jpg)
And now it's time to remove that troublesome mounting stud...Break out the hacksaw!!
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1108.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1109.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1110.jpg)
The vertical support and motor/torsion bar will have to be removed as well to give me some more clearance.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1100.jpg)
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 11:40:35 AM
So now the second trial fit....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1121.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1111.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1112.jpg)
As you can see it's closer but still needs to move back a bit more.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 12:23:38 PM
So you can see I now have lots of clearance in the center of the grill now the support and motor are gone.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1115.jpg)
The headlight buckets are another thing....looks like I'm running out of room.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1117.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1118.jpg)
I could see that even though I trimmed the mounting stud once it would need more trim to clear the kick out on the rad support, as well as a bolt.
Here you can see the bolt I need to remove to get a bit more clearance.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1120.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1133.jpg)
And now I have to trim some more...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
A little more trimming....
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1123.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1125.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1126.jpg)
Now with the trimming and the bolt removed I think I have the grill were I want it...
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1128.jpg)
And yes the grill will extended a bit past the edge of the hood.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1129.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1130.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1131.jpg)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Now that the grill is basicly sitting where I want it it is apparant that the headlight doors will not be functioning as original.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1132.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1162.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1161.jpg)
Now you can see that the only way to have the headlight door pen would be to trim off that entire area, with the hood support adjustment and everything.  And in doing so I would no longer have any place to mount the cross brace for the hood latch etc.  Also I believe I would have to trim sections out of the rad support to give the headlight buckets enough clearance to open fully.
Now these are things I am unwilling to do to my wagon.  So another solution will have to be found.  I am toying with the idea of altering the headlight doors so I can remove them manually.  I would prefer to have them opperate properly and as original but without the major cutting I have described I can see no other way to make the grill and door work.
I even looked at if I could flip the grill and headlight door and have them open down instead of up.  Problem with that is the bumper brackets are now in the way!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 01:25:20 PM
So I don't much care for the space between the outside edge of the grill and the fender on the wagon.  Looks very unfinished in my eyes. 
So after much thinking I though maybe I could modify the outer section to be more straight and give it a bit more of a factory installed look.
The left side had some damage and I had a replacement piece so i thought I would modify it and see how it looked.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1164.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1163.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1136.jpg)
Now the problem with doing this is the pieces are cast with the curve in them.  Now my neighbour is a fiberglass man so we hashed out some ideas and thought he might be able to make some moulds of the original pieces and then cast some pieces we could cut and modify to look more original.
After we cut and paste the pieces we could then recast them and get a final piece and then fine tune that.  Now with a final piece in hand we were going to approach a local foundry he deals with and see if I could then get the pieces cast in aluminum.
But I got thinking some more and then had another idea...
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 01:37:28 PM
So here's my new idea.
What if I just move the outer pieces out a little farther so they just tuck in behind the inside edge of the fender....Hmmmm
So again get my neighbour and run this thought by him.  He thinks this would be by far the easier way to go.  Just make a filler piece to go between the edge of the headlight door and the repositioned outer portion of the grill.
So I have removed one of the headlight doors.
To get the doors off you need to remove the headlight buckets themselves...
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1156.jpg)
The you can get at the screw on the one side and the bolt on the other.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1157.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1158.jpg)
And out she comes.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1159.jpg)
Now neighbour figured we'd use the headlight door to cast a 3-4 inch piece since it's nice and flat and will take to casting better then the curved pieces.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1160.jpg)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 09, 2009, 01:46:41 PM
So the next step is to get the side filler pieces on the fenders off.  This is not as easy as it may seem. 
There is one screw on the inside that you can get to but the panel won't come loose.  You can feel around behind a bit with your fingers and feel screws comming through from the front of the fender, under the edge trim!
So after trying to remove the front edge moulding, couple pal nuts on the upper edge, and being unsucessful and then after much fighting with lights, mirrors and such I was finally able to "See" what's going on. 
Seems there is a single bolt on the lowest part of the moulding, down by the bumper.  This bolt is on an angle so I will have to remove the bumper filler pieces to get at it.
Once I have the filler pieces removed then I can work on repositioning the outer portion of the grill and then making up the brackets to hold everything in place.  Once that is done then we can work on making the filler pieces.
So that's it for now.  Will update when I move a bit further forward.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2009, 02:13:20 PM
So to pull the side filler pieces, the ones attatched to the fenders I had to pull the lower bumper filler pieces.  Man what a gong show that is, too me 3 hours.  They use 8 bolts and nuts to hold those lower pieces in. Thank goodness my car is basicly rust free or I would never have gotten them off, but still had one on each side that stripped.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1218.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1224.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1223.jpg)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2009, 02:18:54 PM
I had to remove those lower panels so I could get at the bolt that is at an angle at the bottom of the front edge trim.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1169.jpg)
Once the trim was removed I could finally get at the two screws that hold the side filler pieces in place.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1222.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1221.jpg)
Now that they are removed I can re-install the lower filler pieces and then start setting up the outer edges of the grill, and finish mounting the grill.  Then I will be able to make the filler pieces.
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
My neighbour came by to return my little lincoln wire feed welder, and had the initial urethane mould of the headlight bucket that will eventually become the filler pieces.
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1214.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1215.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1216.jpg)
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1217.jpg)
He was able to cast the mould for no cost!!  When they have a big pour of a mould they always mix extra, which usually goes to waste.  So he asked his boss if he could use the left over urethane to cast a personal mould, no problem!  Other wise that casting and urethane would have cost me close to a $100!
So the next phase will be to pull the boxing, then make up anothe box, bigger and taller then the new mould.  The we can cast a new piece in resin.  Then we can cut, file and modify the new piece to fit.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 15, 2009, 02:42:28 PM
The bumper filler pieces are a gong show.
Fortunately,I removed mine from the bumper after I removed the bumpers,then flip it upside down.
No matter since I broke all the bolts anyways .
 
If you do not want the side filler pieces,May I have them?
PM me.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 15, 2009, 03:55:45 PM
I thought about it for a few moments..."remove bumper, pull filler pieces and then re-install bumper."

 
Sorry Leaburn I'm keeping all my original pieces just in case I decide to go back to the original set-up one day.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 29, 2009, 01:15:33 PM
Well I've been really bothered by one major thing with this grill install, the fact that the headlight doors will not function like they are supposed to.  Unless I'm willing to do some major cutting and fab work.
This was one of the main reasons I wanted to do this grill install, I love the hide-away headlights and how they function.  Now the fact that I can't have the doors open and close has really caused a problem for me.
I love the look of the grill in the front of the car BUT after much soul searching I'm not going to continue with the grill install right now.  Maybe down the road I'll revisit it, but for now I think I'm going to re-install the original set-up and concentrate on the other things the ol' girl needs.
Sorry to all who were following along at home.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 29, 2009, 03:41:18 PM
crazy idea, but what happens if you mount the entire grille upside down? The headlight covers would pivot down instead of up, and might clear the valance (or trim that....you wouldn't be cutting up a permanent part of your car) and the hood latch brace could go in just as it should. The motor should work upside down, but may need some tweaking to get the headlights to stay closed under gravity.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 29, 2009, 06:31:16 PM
IMO,get the proper fenders,header panel,hood.
67 fenders would be best to omit the fender gills of 68 and re use the wallpaper theme.
Of course this involves painting and more hunting of woodgrain....
I feel your pain,Brian
Yet I can picture the wagon with the cool 300 front end and woodgrain.
Chrysler should have built that car.
It took them a few years later to build a wagon with hideaway headlamps (Fury Sport Suburban)
 GM did offer hideways on the 68 CAPRICE wagons.
Us Canucks were blessed by having available the 67/68 Grand Parisienne Safari wagons with hideaways.not available in USA.
CBarge2009-11-29 23:39:43
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 29, 2009, 07:33:42 PM
Bob...I had already thought of doing just that.  The problem with having the doors open down is that they run into all the bumper brackets.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
Leaburn...I'm seriously considering doing just that! 
 
[color=#ff0033 size=3]Chris how much for the front end you have??[/color]
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 30, 2009, 02:24:34 AM
 (http://wiki/File:1968_Ford_LTD_Country_Squire.jpg)Seems like Mopar was the only one in 68 not to have hiedaways on a wagon..
Here's a Phord Country Squire.
 
CBarge2009-11-30 07:32:35
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 30, 2009, 02:35:53 AM
Caprice Estate wagon.....
(http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/pictures/1968_Chevy_Caprice.jpg)
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 30, 2009, 02:45:28 AM
Even in South Africa,they had full sized cars with hideaways.
68 Grande Parisienne (note right hand drive)
 (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/javacougar/poncho/0345if1_20.jpg)
CBarge2009-11-30 07:46:42
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on November 30, 2009, 02:49:26 AM
Somebody photochop a T&C and 300 together???

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on November 30, 2009, 06:30:17 AM
Quote from: CBarge
Somebody photochop a T&C and 300 together???
What years?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stitcherbob on November 30, 2009, 07:02:07 AM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif)

I see an awful lot of NON MOPARS floatin aroun here!


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on November 30, 2009, 08:12:55 AM
Dodge had a hide-a-way headlight wagon too - the Royal Monaco wagon of '75-ish to '77.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 30, 2009, 09:08:42 AM
Stan, the 68 300 front end on a 68 T/C wagon.
 
I can't believe no one has done this yet?  I would have thought it'd been done before?
 
I really wanted the grill in the front sheet metal of the 68 newport style fornt end but unless I can over come the problems I'm having I would definetly consider the 68 300 front end.
 
Chris posted over on the C-body board that he might be able to get me his 68 300 front end delivered fairly close to my home early next year. 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:19:40 PM
Well I opted not to go with the 300 front end.  I appreciate the offer Chris but as I stated  I have too many things on my plate and only a limited budget to cover them.




Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:20:04 PM
Well been a little while since I really worked on the wagon.  With Christmas and New Years and stuff you just never have the time you think you do.

Anyway I decided last night I would start tackling the tailshaft bushing on the 727 in the wagon.

With the drive line vibrations I was having, and the new drive shaft solving most of those problems.  I still have a small vibration.  I found that there was a fair amount of deflection in the yoke going into the tranny so I figured I'd replace the bushing to eliminate this as a potential problem.

Here's the kit i got off E-bay,

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1289.jpg)

I wish it came with the old style rear seal, with the rubber boot as well, but will do the job.

I tried finding a similar kit locally and they couldn't get me anything.



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:26:22 PM
So I was a bit leery about tackling this job myself, so i did a bunch of research on-line to find out what would be entailed to do this.

I found this,

Quote
1.    Shift transmission into manual low (1) position.
2.    Hoist and support vehicle on safety stands.
3.    Mark propeller shaft and axle yoke for alignment reference. Then disconnect and remove shaft.
4.    Remove vehicle speed sensor, speedometer adapter and speedometer pinion.
5.    Remove bolts attaching extension housing to rear support.
6.    Using a suitable lifting device, raise transmission off rear mount.
7.    Remove rear crossmember.
8.    Remove bolts holding extension housing to transmission case.
9.    Verify that transmission is in 1 position. Park lock rod is easier to disengage/engage in this position.
10.    Remove access plate and gasket from underside of extension housing.
11.    Using a snap ring plier, spread retaining ring holding rear bearing in extension housing
12.    While spreading retaining ring, pull extension away from transmission case.
13.    Separate extension housing from vehicle.

Followed this and everything went perfect.

Only thing I did also was drain the tranny first, since I figured I do a service while I had everything apart.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:35:31 PM
So here are a few pics....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1286.jpg)

Had to lower tranny a few inches to get the tailshaft off.  It was hitting the torsion bar cross member.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1285.jpg)

Here you can see the snap ring that has to be "widened" to get the tailshaft off.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1287.jpg)

These are the Snap-on pliers I borrowed from a buddy to do this.  They are different then your normal snap ring pliers, they have little dimples in the outside surfaces to grip the points on the snap ring.






Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:42:12 PM
So once the tailshaft was off I needed to remove the old bushing.  I could see that it was pretty worn.

The new bushing came with some general instructions on the removal and re-install, but nothing in depth.

As you can see in the pic there is a grove at approx 7-O'clock. That is where you need to remove the tension of the bushing.  

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1281.jpg)

The instruction stated to use a small chisel to cut through the bushing.  I decided to use a hacksaw blade.  It took me probably 15-20 minutes to cut through the bushing and then use a small punch to drive it down into the housing.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1282.jpg)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
Now came the fun part, re-installing the new bushing without screwing anything up.

I posted on a few of the boards I frequent, and Steve (Polaraco) game me the go to idea to get this done.

He told me to use a big socket and an extension, BUT to put the extension down the front of the socket and use the big flat back of the socket as the flat driving surface...Brilliant!!

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1283.jpg)

I had put the bushing in the freezer yesterday, hoping it would shrink a little for when I went to install it.

I put the bushing in place, lubed everything up with oil and began driving it down.  Now the only thing with this bushing is that it has a hole in the top that has to line up with the tranny fluid gravity feed to the bushing.  Other then that alignment it was a straight shot down and in!!

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1284.jpg)

Now it's just clean everything really well, install the rest of the seals and gaskets and put everything back together.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1288.jpg)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on January 13, 2010, 06:48:18 PM
Good Job! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 13, 2010, 07:03:23 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
Good Job! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

Couldn't have done it without your sagely advice...Thanks again Steve!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on January 14, 2010, 03:55:00 AM
Great pics, thanks for the lesson!!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM

Quote from: firedome
Great pics, thanks for the lesson!!

No problem.  Hope it helps someone else down the road.

 I know I was more then a little hesitant about doing this myself but after weeks of putting it off I figured I better just get in there and get it done.

I knew if I had any problems I could come to my friends for help and advice.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on January 14, 2010, 08:20:08 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
My pleasure.  That's what this place is all about
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on January 15, 2010, 04:19:02 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
That's what this place is all about
I thought it was to  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif).
 
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Robert F. Brogle on January 16, 2010, 03:48:58 AM
Wow, you made that look easy! I also FINALLY read your posts on the grille upgrade.  I thought I'd really like the look, but after I saw it I'm not as revved up about it.  Stock is better, unless you replace the entire front clip. 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 16, 2010, 08:47:01 AM
..and I know where to get the frt.clip  for the conversion...heh heh..

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on January 16, 2010, 03:57:26 PM
Quote from: CBarge
..and I know where to get the frt.clip  for the conversion...heh heh..
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif) Me too.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Well I finished up the tailshaft last night and got everything put back together and re-installed.

I didn't like the rear tailshaft seal that came in the kit, would have preferred an OEM style one.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1292.jpg)

But I wasn't able to find one exactly the same.

The red one is the one that came in the kit, the green one is the best I could find locally.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1291.jpg)

Not perfect but much better then the red one.

No problems putting everything back together.  Little tricky getting the snap ring back over and seated on the rear tailshaft bearing.  Other then that it all went back together with minimal swearing and fighting.  But man 10 bolts to hold the tranny cross member in!!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 19, 2010, 04:17:23 PM
Took the wagon out today, since it was 11 degrees C (approx. 54 F) and sunny with cloud.  No problems and the drive line shake is even less then before but I still have some.

I'm thinking it might be tire related.  I had them redone again last year.  The shop is really good and the spent a lot of time getting them right and checking them to make sure they ran true.  But I just get that feeling it's coming from the tires.  Maybe they are developing flat spots from sitting?



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2010, 09:35:13 PM

Well I did a little repair work on a piece for the wagon today.

First off is the stuff I used for the repair, Rapid Fix.  A guy on another forum I frequent posted a link to a vid on this stuff.  He also runs a parts store and vouches for the effectiveness of this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSmgEkbp5eM  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSmgEkbp5eM%20)
thrashingcows2010-01-25 02:36:25
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2010, 09:38:07 PM
Now here's the part I repaired.

This is the drivers side interior pillar post cover.  It is frequently broken due to it's construction from plastic and the fact that while getting in and out of the car it usually gets hit.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1293.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1295.jpg)

And then farther up one of the screw hole braces was snapped off.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1294.jpg)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
So I cleaned all the edges really well then put a light coat of the liguid on the edges of the broken pieces and then put them in place and held.  I took about 30 seconds for them to bond.

Then I went back over the cracks on the back and applied the welding powder, then a few drops of the liquid to set it up.  

Pics from the back side.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1298.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1299.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1300.jpg)

And then what the repair looks like from the front.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1301.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1302.jpg)

I don't think it looks too bad.  Better then having missing pieces.  I've pulled and tweaked on the repairs and they are SOLID.  

The Rapid Fix isn't cheap, I paid $37 cdn for it.  But I would have had to pay a lot more to try and find, and then ship these panels.  Money well spent in my books, and I barely used any of the stuff so it will just keep on paying for itself. 

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Dave on January 24, 2010, 09:56:30 PM
"Finish the bathroom first"... I have the same deal with our kitchen right now. Counters, backsplash, lighting, cieling, fireplace, paint.... Oil, grease, even brake fluid on my hands I can stand. Drywall dust - ick.



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 25, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
Yeah I have to build up "credit" with the wife with home renos.  Then I can work on the car....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2010, 02:21:16 PM
Well over on the C-body board Leaburn mentioned about the 65-66 seedan pillar covers being different then the 67/68.

I mentioned that I had a set of "metal" 67's that I was going to install before I was able to repair my original plastic panel.

So I'll post up some pics of the 67 and 68 panels so you can see the differences.




Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2010, 02:21:35 PM
So here are the pics of the two interior pillar post covers, green one is the 67 and the blue is the original one I just repaired.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1306.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1307.jpg)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
Now here are the pics of the 67 installed in the wagon, and the comparison pic of the other side.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1312.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1313.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1318.jpg)

As you can see the 67 cover doesn't go out as far as the 68 does.  So you would need to run the wind lace all the way around the door frame to give it a more completed look.



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2010, 02:37:23 PM
Now to get the 67 panel to fit in the 68 I had to first bend all those little "U" shaped screw support fins flat.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1308.jpg)

Then I had to use my dremel to trim off the top of the panel to clear the roof trim in the wagon.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1310.jpg)

I also had to cut back the windlace to make room for the metal panel.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1314.jpg)

And before I could install the panel I had to drill out the factory screw holes with a 7/32 drill bit to make roof for the factory 68 trim screws.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT1311.jpg)

But now that the original is back in serviceable shape the 67 panel will be coming back out and go back into storage for use at a later date....maybe.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 31, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
Thanks for "post"-ing the pics,Brian.
Taking the time to show the comparisons is invaluable to those who need help.
You are a "pillar" to the Mopar community! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
CBarge2010-01-31 19:52:12
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on January 31, 2010, 03:11:10 PM
Nice job! ... that seems odd going from plastic to metal and not vise
versa. Usuallly they were always trying to cut costs by going to a
chaeper material.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2010, 03:40:41 PM

Quote from: CBarge
Thanks for "post"-ing the pics,Brian.
Taking the time to show the comparisons is invaluable to those who need help.
You are a "pillar" to the Mopar community! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)

(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)................Niiiice!!

Firedome...I would have thought the 67 metal panels would have been more expensive then the 68 plastic ones?



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Stan Paralikis on February 01, 2010, 04:13:21 AM
I never would have known that there were two different kinds.  Every day is a learning experience.  Not that all this knowledge would put food on the table.  But, inyeresting none the less.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 09, 2010, 09:52:57 PM
Thought I'd update the whole brake problems...and solutions, I just went through.



So after I realized the old cummins crewcab wasn't going to be read for
holiday duty this year, I had to scramble to get the wagon back on the
road.  I had stopped driving it due to the rear drums constantly over
heating and cause major brake drag.  I had replaced the whole rear drum
assembly from the stock 11x2 which are hard to find parts for, to the
very common 11x2.5's.



So my goal was to fix the problem properly.  I had to replace the axle
bearing seals, and axle shaft seals, since from all the heat it had
cooked them out.  I replaced everything last year as well, but had used
the cheap off shore bearings.  So this year I ordered a timken bearing
kit with everything to redo the axles, nice kit and about $100 off
e-bay.



Once I had everything apart to replace the axles and seals, I noticed
that my brake shoes were cracked from all the heat.  Drums were still in
 good shape.  So I put on new shoes, scuffed up the drum surface again
and buttoned everything up.  Then someone asked if I had replaced the
brake hardware recently...nope I had not.  For the $10 for all new
springs and stuff it's not worth using the original stuff.  So apart
again to replace the brake hardware.  Then reassembled everything and
but back on the ground.



Then through more questions and suggestions I figured I better replace
the rear wheel cylinders, and the rear flex line, even though it was new
 no more then 3 years ago.  Again trying to make sure that what ever
is/was causing the brake brag gets taken care of.  So up goes the car
again, off come the wheels, and now new wheel cylinders and replace the
rear flex line.  Good thing I replaced the rear flex line, since I could
 barely blow through it one direction, and was completely clear in the
other.



After all this I went to bleed the main brake line before I installed
the new flex line.  It was then that I noticed that it would not gravity
 bleed.  I had the master cylinder pen, no fitting onthe end of the
brake line and the fluid would only move when the pedal was pumped!  Now
 that not right.  SO I decided to pop off the brake line fitting going
into the proportioning valve, fluid came out no problem.  So I figured
there must be a problem in the prop. valve.  I had installed a "new"
reproduction proportioning valve a year or two ago and just assumed it
would be correct and work properly.  Turns out the one I got was
different thenthe old disc brake one I removed.  The new prop. valve had
 a RPV (residual pressure valve) built into it.  So it was holding line
pressure on the rear drum brakes, as well as the newer wheel cylinders
having spring pressure as well, all this was compounding to cause my
brake drag problem.



So I decided to redo the whole brake system from the MC to the main
lines, front and rear.  From previous suggestions and discussions I knew
 that I would just "T" the front brake lines to the MC,and then install
an adjustable brake valve in the rear circuit.  So I picked up a very
nice SSBC adjustable valve locally for $50 and then got to work.  After
all was done, I ended up being able to reuse the stock drum brake lines
from the MC on down, just had to replace one fitting, cut line, install
fitting and then re-flare. And the same with the rear line, cut off the
old fitting, install the new one then re-flare.  I then went to bleed
the brakes, and noting was happening!!  I could not get fluid to move
into the rear brake system, I was beside myself since I had been working
 in 37* (104*F) weather and I should be getting fluid through, and I
only had one more day before holiday time!



Thank goodness for car guy neighbors!!  I went over and asked my
neighbor to please come and help me think this through.  After some time
 asking me what I had done, he finally suggested that we start opening
brake line fittings, starting at the MC.  Well after the third fitting
we realized that the new adjustable valve was not letting the fluid
through.  Removed the adjustable valve and found it was plugged with
gunk and crud, blew it out and flushed the valve and re-installed...well
 things went well after that.  Got everything bled and moved the car up
and down the road and all seemed fine.








Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 09, 2010, 09:53:20 PM
Day of the Holiday.....



I almost didn't get to take the wagon.  We  loaded up and left the
house, wife wanted to stop at Tim Horton's first,  so parked and things
didn't feel right.  The wagon's brakes were  dragging, I adjusted the
rear valve off all the way, still dragging, in  fact it was taking
1100rpm to get the car to move!!  Decided to go home  and work on it for
 an hour and see if I could fix it, if not then we  would have taken the
 wife's 02 Concorde.



On the drive back home, 10 miles or so, the brakes got so hot you could
 smell them in the car, and it was taking more and more power from the
big ol' 440 just to keep it moving down the road. Got home and jacked
the front end up, the front wheels wouldn't move!!  So I figured it must
  be a MC problem.



I loosened off the MC low and behold the front wheels spun! So obviously
  I set the push rod length too long.  I backed the push rod off about
3/16 and bolted things back together, took it around the block and all
was well.  Loaded up the family and headed for the hills.  No problems
with the braking system on the trip, other then my warped front rotors,
 but still have to fine tune the rear brakes.



Car is now resting nicely after another 800 mile family vacation trip.
            (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2011, 07:32:21 PM
Well I finally received a little present from a C-body member in Holland....

Originally from a Euro-export 68 Chrysler 300.....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT4332.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT4333.jpg)

Will get this into the wagon later this year.  Just very happy to have it in my possession....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Leaburn Patey on January 29, 2011, 08:09:49 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
Well I've been busy working on the fleet...and finally taking a few minutes to update a few threads.

I
 finally got tired of the front rotors on the wagon shuddering.  They
got warped while driving through some nasty hills and having to brake A
LOT!!  Anyway it was to the point I didn't want to drive the ol'
girl...and I couldn't have that.  So I decided to take a chance on some
drilled and slotted rotors I saw on E-bay. 

I put a set like these ones on all 4 corners of the wife's 02 Concorde....love the braking!!  SO figured I'd give them a chance at $160 Delivered!! 

Here they are...

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6433.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6434.jpg)

They came with new bearing races installed too!  I'm very happy with them.



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
And comparing the old and new....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6436.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6435.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6438.jpg)




Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:12:59 PM
And old verses new installed....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6442.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6441.jpg)

Only
 thing I should have done first before installing them is wash them
thoroughly in the parts washer.  There was a lot of small metal debris
from the machining inside the rotor.  It got allover the place, and even
 behind the brake pads. Had to pop off the calipers and pads when one
side started grabbing harder then the other.  But a good cleaning had
things working properly.

As for the braking...Couldn't be happier!  It hauls down from speed very quickly.


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:25:03 PM
After taking the wagon to the street legal drags last week I decided to
try changing my ignition system from the pertronix to the tried and true
 Mopar Electronic ignition.  I picked up a junkyard 440 electronic dizzy
 a year or two ago from a 78 1/2 ton dodge van with a factory 440 in
it!!  Anyway I was just going to toss it in but decided I better open it
 up and check things out...glad I did!!

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6480.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6479.jpg)

As
 you can see the dizzy had some rust in it.  Never seen this kind of
rust inside a dizzy before.  I'm thinking maybe the van ended up in a
river, or lake. And only some of the water got out of the dizzy and the
rest caused all the rust.  Anyway some time in the parts washer, and
some time with some 280 grit sand paper and PB Blaster cleaned
everything right up.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6482.jpg)

Reassembled everything with a good coating of motor oil and installed it. 


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:31:59 PM
I then had to wire up the electronic control module.  Got a darn good
wiring diagram from some guy on moparts...when I bought a bunch of slant
 6 stuff for my Desoto.  Anyway real easy wiring, but needed to figure
out where to mount the box.  First I was going to mount it under the
batter tray...but was looking at the 40 feet of wiring I was going to
need and thought there had to be a better place.  Didn't want to drill
any new holes in the firewall, so was standing looking at things when I
remembered a factory? or aftermarket mounting location on the back side
of  RB and B motors. 

So off to my bucket of misc brackets and crap and found a  bracket piece off a 93 Cummins A/C condensor.  The holes lied up perfectly with the back bolt holes.  Just needed to weld on a couple nuts and bolt it together.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6486.jpg)

And installed....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6487.jpg)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6488.jpg)



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
Put on a nice new shiny control box and turned the
key...and....Nothing!!  Checked to make sure I had wired it up
properly...yup.  Checked my 12V ignition source...no problems.  Then
pulled a plug wire and installed a plug...no spark!  So off came the new
 shiny control box and on went an original until from say 1975-ish? 
Anyway got everything reinstalled and turned the key and it fired right
up...even though I still had the plug wire unhooked from the motor and
plugged into the spare spark plug...:)

Tried to time the motor
but could get a visual on the timing mark.  Tried the white chalk/soap
stone I've been using for years...nothing.  Changed which plug wires I
was using...still no sign of it.  Tried black felt...again nothing.  Not
 sure why I couldn't get a visual on the timing mark, but regardless I
did the timing by ear and by vacuum.  Took it for a drive...had to
adjust the timing a couple more times..but finally got it hauling a$$. 

Motor
 has never run so strong!  Before I could not get the back tire to light
 up (no suregrip) Now I barely give it some throttle and that back tire
is spinning.  Also when I first fired the motor it was smoking badly...I
 initially thought I had hurt something in the old motor when pounding
on it down the quarter mile.  But after a few runs out on the street it
seemed to clear up.  I think it now has a hot enough spark to burn off
the crud that used to build up on several of the plugs, and pistons.  I
think the old pertronic was just WEAK!! 

Also found the vacuum
advance canister on the pertronix dizzy was toast...sucking air.  Think
this is where my idle fluctuation was coming from.  With the new Mopar
ignition system...and a good vacuum advance canister...it's running nice
 and smooth now.

Very happy again with the way things turned out!! 


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 22, 2012, 10:09:37 PM
I also finally got the rear grab handles on the wagon.  Had the grab
handles and tried to install them a couple years ago, but found the
upper trim would not fit between the handles.  I assumed that the rear
trim piece was a grab handle specific piece, so I had been looking for
one for some time now.  Anyway a local guy was parting out a rusty 68
T/C wagon...and I managed to get that stainless piece!!  Found out that
the stainless piece is proportionally the same as the non-grab handle
piece...the only difference is in the over all length, or width
depending on how you look at it.  The grab handle piece is about one
inch (1") shorter on each end...that's it!! 

This is the piece
I'm referring too...this is from when I attempted to install them a
couple years ago.  You can see how the rear edge trim piece would not
fit on the grab handle.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT0843-1.jpg)

So to all those wagon guys who might want to upgrade their non-grab handled 65-68 C-body wagon...you can either find the correct piece...or hack down your original non-grab handle trim.


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 23, 2012, 05:58:40 AM


Pretty cool
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Tom Dawson on August 23, 2012, 08:45:51 AM
Brian go get a can of top end cleaner from a GM dealer, that will clean out the remainder of the crud that the electronic upgrade did not, used that stuff on an 87 Omni that pinged no matter what octane grade I used, after spraying it into the carb while she was running no more ping.

Tom



Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 23, 2012, 11:18:07 AM
I've done the water being poured slowly into the carb, while fluctuating the idle to keep it running.  Worked pretty good.  But I'll look into the product you suggested.





Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 23, 2012, 05:33:31 PM


SEA FOAM!  That what's the GM stuff is  Wally World
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6646_zps2bc0271f.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Guests on September 23, 2012, 07:18:44 PM
Chromed plastic can go all the way back to the early to mid 70s, but either way, still a cool find. Did you get the chrome you were looking for?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2012, 08:01:24 PM
It's held on by two side tape...so no holes to drill.  And yes I got the trim piece between the rear grab handles.  You can see the handles installed in the second pic.  It was the stainless trim along the back edge of the roof.
 
 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2012, 02:26:44 PM
Well I've been working...slowly..on rebuilding an Auburn/cone type mopar suregrip unit...for the last couple years.  I've actually had the suregrip unit for close to 20 years!!  Anyway I got the cones machined down so they would not bottom out in the case, then used small washers to figure out what thickness of shim I would need to bring the lash back into spec on the spider gears.
 
Mine turned out to be .060, 60 thou.  I luckily had some scrap stainless sheet in that thickness so I had my machinist cut me a couple shims.  Then I reassembled everything.  Next was to bring down my 3.23 open unit, and the suregrip unit, and have the two made one.  I finished installing everything last night.
 
Took the wagon out for my errands today, and a good highway jaunt...to make sure all way well and lubed up.  Then I found a nice deserted section of road and crank 'er up....car left lite both tires up effortlessly and left two nice even black marks down the road....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2012, 04:41:25 PM
Also just got the cop car rims blasted....got these from Leaburn a few years ago...Thanks again!!
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT0231.jpg)
 
Will paint them and swap them onto the wagon very soon.
 
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6657.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on October 10, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
Paint them very soon Brian. Like before they rust soon. Are you still gonna use the Chrysler Dog Dishes on it?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2012, 06:09:04 PM
Quote from: azblackhemi
Paint them very soon Brian. Like before they rust soon. Are you still gonna use the Chrysler Dog Dishes on it?


 
Probably get them in primer tomorrow.  And yes going to use the current dog dish caps.  Should look sweet.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
And I'm almost ready to swap out my rear drums for a rear disc set-up.  The rotors are out at my machinist having the center register hole opened up.  Not that I have any problem with the rear drums...11x2.5 hass all the stopping I need..BUT...I bought all the stuff years ago and figure I can use the rear drum set-up from the wagon on the Desoto.  And plus it will look cool seeing the rear disc through the cop car rims...;)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 08:46:14 PM
I suddenly developed a very bad tranny leak.  I jacked up the back of the car for something...and I must have lost over a quart of fluid over night.  Climbed underneath and found the leak...darn shift tower seal leaking!!  So down to Napa to get the seals, new filter kit and fresh fluid.  Dove into it and would have finished it in one evening...but I was so obsessed with finding a filter kit that had a neoprene gasket that I neglected to look at the filter it self.  Turned out the A518 filter kit I decided on was from a late 90, early 2000 vehicle...so it ran the deep pan.  The filter will not work on the earlier shallow pan of a 727.  So next day I had to go out and russel up a proper kit.  The kit I got had a moxed gasket...cork and rubber I think.  Seems to be holding well.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 08:55:27 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6771.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 09:37:20 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6693.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 09:47:13 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6704.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 09:53:59 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 10:07:41 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 10:39:26 PM
(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT6750.jpg)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
Ok so went through this and it did move the piston out closer...but there was still way to much slop in between the piston and the pads/rotor. 
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 11:10:57 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 11:22:50 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2012, 11:29:59 PM

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: 300rag on November 11, 2012, 02:37:08 AM
Well done!! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 11, 2012, 07:53:40 AM
A little hair pulling...but I finally got through it.  Now those old drums will end up on the back of the Desoto.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Guests on November 11, 2012, 09:25:59 PM
Totally  great  work.  Thanks for the details.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 12, 2012, 08:54:53 AM
Thanks...just trying to help out others who might embark on this upgrade??  Yeah I'm not sure if it's really needed on a cruiser though.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Guests on November 12, 2012, 03:17:20 PM
This is one of those upgrades that would be good on any car driven in California, given the great drivers we have out here, but compared to Arizona drivers, California drivers are professionals!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on November 13, 2012, 04:08:22 AM
Very professional and great photo documentation! WOW!


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on November 13, 2012, 04:26:31 AM
Quote from: dana44
This is one of those upgrades that would be good on any car driven in California, given the great drivers we have out here, but compared to Arizona drivers, California drivers are professionals!
Ed I agree Arizona drivers can be bad but one thing about California drivers bugs the heck out of me. When entering the freeway they all come down the ramp at one steady speed as if they have the right of way over traffic  already on the freeway. Why don't they either speed up and get ahead of traffic or slow down and merge behind? Most of the driving I do iin CA is with a trailer so I always have to be in the right lane so that's probably why it bothers me so much.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Snotty on November 13, 2012, 06:45:01 AM
Because most of them think they do have the right-of-way.  Wrong!!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Guests on November 13, 2012, 08:00:04 AM
Chris, I can agree with that. They also like to run up to the exits and then figure a way to jam themselves in, kind of a Mexico driving thing.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: azblackhemi on November 13, 2012, 08:54:44 AM
Quote from: Snotty
Because most of them think they do have the right-of-way.  Wrong!!
Scott, that's exactly what it seems like!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 13, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Quote from: firedome
Very professional and great photo documentation! WOW!


 
Thank you...just trying to be as thorough as possible.  Maybe someone searching the internet one day will find by posts and it can help them out.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2013, 03:55:31 PM

Wow been over a year since I posted anything up in this thread....Well
as you probably know the wagon has been doing daily driver duty since
the crewcab is down for it's 4wd conversion  And since I'm driving in
rainy wet coast weather I've noticed a few things...and had to fix some
things as well.

First is the Heater/AC system.  I had retrofitted
 all the underhood components to modern pieces.  And when the heat/def
is on the A/C pump cycles.  Now I have no idea if the original RV2 AC
compressor would do this as well?  But I was thinking that since the AC
compressor requires a bit of power to lock up I would unplug it and save
 a little draw on the electrical system.  So I did this and noticed that
 the wagon would fog up horribly on the inside.  It is getting a bit of
water inside.

So I plugged the compressor back in and within
about 5 minutes of driving down the road the interior glass was almost
completly clear.  Now I do understand what is happening, and thought
that the original Auto Temp systems would be the only ones to function like this?  But clearly my system is working the same way...with no complaints from me I might ad. ;)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2013, 04:03:52 PM

I noticed too that the tailgate carpet was getting wet...especially the
small lower piece.  It was completely soaked through.  So I decided to
pull everything and see what was going on.

Once I got it open I
could kind of see why it was getting wet.  The original tape was rotted
out and allowing water to splash up and be soaked up by the fiber board
backing.  So I cleaned off all the old tape and residue...had to use
lots of water and SOS pads. 

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8714_zps08358092.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8714_zps08358092.jpg.html)

Once
 it was clean I noticed some scale rust around a couple of the holes
where the screws went through.  Cleaned it up and I have a little rust
out!!  This is the only rust I've found so far on the entire
car...little sad but should be an easy fix.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8715_zpse0cb5282.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8715_zpse0cb5282.jpg.html)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on November 16, 2013, 04:09:04 PM

Once everything was clean and dry I used some aluminum tape to cover and
 seal up the holes.  And put some plumber caulk around the big openings
on the upper panel as well.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8716_zps4099acbc.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8716_zps4099acbc.jpg.html)

I then cut out a couple pieces of tar paper for a backing on the lower panel...just a little added water prevention.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8719_zps78cec974.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8719_zps78cec974.jpg.html)

And
 all sealed back up.  I had to pound almost every screw hole flat
again...they had been over tightened many times by the looks of things. 
 I also put a little grease on each one since there was a little light
rust around them as well....until I can clean them up properly and prime
 and paint.

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8720_zps9c1d45d8.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8720_zps9c1d45d8.jpg.html)

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8721_zps77b0ce5b.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/PICT8721_zps77b0ce5b.jpg.html)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: firedome on November 17, 2013, 10:51:27 AM
Good repair there! Wagon tailgates seem very prone to rust for some reason

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Snotty on November 18, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
Great work!
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 28, 2014, 10:05:53 AM

Well a little update....



I changed out the front calipers, since I had done everything else,
pads, rotors, hoses, and even used compressed air to blow out the hard
lines in each direction, and I was still having the car pull to the
right when I applied the brakes.  With the front end up in the air, and
 spinning the tires, you could feel the passenger side dragging more
then  the drivers side.  Well that solved that problem....brakes nice
and  straight now!!

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 28, 2014, 10:06:08 AM

I bought a new ECU for the OEM style mopar electronic ignition system I
  have on the 440.  It was running a dinosaur old OEM ECU from probably
  the mid 70`s, factory part numbers and all  Thought I may as well put
in  a new unit and keep this one  as a spare.  Well that opened up a big
  Ol`can of worms.



Motor would not run with the new ECU.  I tried a spare, older ECU I
had...would not run on that one either, borrowed one from a friend,
would not run on that one either.  I checked, and re-cheched the wiring.
   Tested the wiring to every component in the system and everything
checked out fine. Even swapped in a spare ignition switch to eliminate
that as a potential problem.  I finally decided it had to be in the
single ballast wiring system.  So I rewired it again with a dual ballast
  system, and now all the spare ECU`s work, but the new one does not.



I returned it for a refund and all is well.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 28, 2014, 10:06:25 AM

I did all this because we were going ot be using it again for our family
  vacation.  We were driving through the mountains of BC to visit my
brother in-law, and my niece for a few days.



We got back last  night, and the old wagon did pretty good.  Even with
the hurt motor it  still got between 11 to 14.5 mpg....and that`s loaded
 with me, wife and  two teenage daughters...and all the baggage that
goes along with it. (http://www.moparnuts.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.png)



Did  980 miles in the old girl....and other then a few new noises, one
new  front end clunk that I think is a worn suspension piece, it did
darn  good.  People love seeing the old wagon out on the Hwy and being
used  for what it was intended for.   Had thumbs up and excited people
everywhere I went.

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 28, 2014, 03:07:04 PM

Here are a couple pics at one of the rest areas....

(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0217_zps0423ece6.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0217_zps0423ece6.jpg.html)


(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0219_zps58ad55f8.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0219_zps58ad55f8.jpg.html)

And
 a shot of the motor.  I tried something a little different with the air
 cleaner this trip.  I had an old single snorkel air cleaner kicking
around, and I decided to convert it to a dual inlet with some aluminum
ducting.  I actual did this conversion a year or two ago...but never put
 it on, but thought it couldn't hurt having cooler air piped up from
down under the car.


(http://i697.photobucket.com/albums/vv340/thrashingcows/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0218_zpsf87606b8.jpg) (http://s697.photobucket.com/user/thrashingcows/media/68%20TC%20wagon/Aug%202014/PICT0218_zpsf87606b8.jpg.html)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
Were you resting or was the car?  LOL
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on August 29, 2014, 06:26:28 AM
Brian, you reference a hurt motor; Your 440 tired?
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2014, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: carrman
Brian, you reference a hurt motor; Your 440 tired?

Yup it's Tired, and I hurt something when I was pounding on it at the drags last year.  Guess old 440's with close to 100K miles don't like hot lap after hot lap....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Lead foot. . . .  Take it easy on that thing.  It might sink! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: R. Dave Carr on August 30, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
I see a rebuild in your future.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 30, 2014, 09:40:48 AM
Quote from: carrman
I see a rebuild in your future.

Well not a rebuild on that notor...I have another 440 I'm going to build up.  It an old rebuild from the 80's, 60 over, TRW 10.5 pistons etc.  Ran for a couple hundred miles and the guy wrecked the car.  Been sitting since then with no heads, or oil pan in a heated shop under a bench.  No rust on the motor...but plenty of dust, dirt and grime.

I will be tearing it down and getting it hot tanked.  Then I will ball hone the cylinders, install new rings and bearings and call the short block done.  I will have my rebuilt heads checked over, to make sure they have not suffered too badly on the worn old motor.  Then reassemble and install in the wagon.

Plan on rebuilding the 727 at that time as well.


Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 30, 2014, 03:05:36 PM
I stress you port those heads.  Like I did to my 5.9.  I was clocking 18 around town and normally the 5.9 is a pig
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on August 31, 2014, 11:26:36 AM
Quote from: POLARACO
I stress you port those heads.  Like I did to my 5.9.  I was clocking 18 around town and normally the 5.9 is a pig

Probably couldn't hurt....will look into that.  Thanks for the advice Steve!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on August 31, 2014, 03:48:06 PM
Look in the engine section.  Ed and I did a porting thread a couple of years ago.  You can do it yourself with a dremel is you wanted too.  Not as fast as a die grinder and a drill is too awkwaed
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: dana44 on August 31, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
If needed, I can walk you through everything step by step for the big block engines, including the proper texture and actual carbide burr cutter to use.
Title: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 02, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Steve and Ed...thanks I will keep you guys in mind when the time comes.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)

Title: Re: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 07, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Well this one seems to have lost almost a full year...Sheesh! :'(
Title: Re: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Steve on September 07, 2015, 12:46:55 AM
I'll tell the new management
Title: Re: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Dave from Allpar on September 07, 2015, 03:37:36 PM
I wonder if there was database corruption in the old forum... it can be pretty subtle... I'll see if I can find it
Title: Re: TC's T/C...update..Aug 2012
Post by: Brian on September 14, 2015, 12:00:13 AM
Thank you!