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Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Johnny D. on September 29, 2008, 10:25:56 AM
im not sure when this happened as im just noticing it today... but the drivers side rear leaf set up has failed... in a pretty spectacular fashion, with the top leaf buckled upwards and the rest sailing through the trunk floor...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)

pics are a coming...






Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Johnny D. on September 29, 2008, 10:39:28 AM
and here they are...

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/MobStaffCar72NwYkr/DSC00045-1.jpg)

and my poor used to be perfect trunk... just in time for winter...

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/MobStaffCar72NwYkr/DSC00046-1.jpg)

It never rains in California, but man it pours...


Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Brian on September 29, 2008, 11:46:11 AM
Well I'd say the spring didn't fail it was the spring pack clamp that failed.  Without the clamp to hold the pack together and keep it stable it can and did shift off....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
 
Hope that gear clamp was not your spring pack clamp...if it was how did you get away from Steve's place with that.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 29, 2008, 02:27:38 PM
I hope you parked it after that happened.Drive it like that can be the end of the car.
Plus it is not safe.
I do not recall seeing the gear clamp when I worked on Nadine.I was working on the other side.
Mobby,all can be fixed.Save your pennies.
Get new springs--yours are sagged anyways  from all the junk and dead bodies you carry around!!.
The hole in the trunk can be welded shut.
For now those size 15's will have to sacrifice some treadwear.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Stan Paralikis on September 29, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
From: Polaraco
Re: What to do
 
(http://i36.tinypic.com/5as80k.jpg)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 29, 2008, 05:31:32 PM
I see Adolph got the message....More work on the Meat Mountain Mobile when he gets back home..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Stitcherbob on September 29, 2008, 05:55:32 PM

Where have I seen that picture before......(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif)


(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/10/%21cid_003401c86f33$46c2dcd0$6401a8c0@MUTRIE1.jpg)

Oh yeah!

Road Rage....Don't drive angry!


Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Johnny D. on September 29, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
What no ones ever seen a hose clamp used "structurally" before?

Gotta drive it unfortunately... there's no other car. and I gotta get to both school and work... Busing is not an option as public transit doesn't really exist here.

as a band aid im picking up some more used leaves sometime next week... the hole in the trunk really bites, but at least it wasnt the gas tank...


Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Snotty on September 29, 2008, 07:48:05 PM
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Toonces lives!!!!
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on September 29, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
I'm going to put a temporary fix on them springs this week, I don't
want to see John get hurt and I don't want to see Nadine die a horrible
death. Worry not P is here!

Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 30, 2008, 07:10:44 AM
JOHN DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR!!
FIX IT!!
YOU WILL END UP REPLACING MORE THAN JUST LEAFS.
THEY WILL WORK THEIR WAY UP TO THE TRUNK LID!!
DO NOT DRIVE IT TILL IT IS FIXED!!
CBarge2008-09-30 12:11:53
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Bill Mounteer on September 30, 2008, 08:43:40 AM
As a temporary fix just jack it up to take the weight off the spring and pound the leaves over with a big hammer and put about 3 or 4 gear clamps on each end.

Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Brian on September 30, 2008, 10:55:41 AM
Quote from: Fury440
As a temporary fix just jack it up to take the weight off the spring and pound the leaves over with a big hammer and put about 3 or 4 gear clamps on each end.
 
Or get a couple cheapy muffler clamps and crank the snot out of them, after you pound the leaves back into alignment.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on September 30, 2008, 01:42:20 PM
So  much for a temp repair. . .  ..
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on September 30, 2008, 01:58:15 PM
Thanks Guys I'll be able to get to that sometime this week, prob the weekend, maybe sooner.

Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Johnny D. on October 03, 2008, 09:47:53 AM

So anyway... with some help from P, 2 tire irons, a crow bar, 2 jacks, a jackstand, 2 exhaust clamps, some duct tape,  my basic socket set, a block of wood, a hammer, and a table vice...

thanks for the advice, the gear clamps i decided against because the last time this was done that didnt work at all... the leaves just ripped them apart... the exhaust clamps worked nicely....

anyway

The leaves were pulled from the tunk, re-aligned and set together... the duct tape is covering the hole to keep water out until it can be welded by someone with a welder and some welding knowledge... its not perfect, but the cars sitting right and i dont have to worry about the back collapsing in.

-Mobby

MobStaffCar722008-10-03 14:49:42
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 03, 2008, 10:16:23 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
So anyway...  2 tire irons, a crow bar, 2 jacks, a jackstand, 2 exhaust clamps, some duct tape,  my basic socket set, a block of wood, a hammer, and a table vice...
 
(http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/plumbing.jpg)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Matt Aker on October 03, 2008, 10:40:22 AM
Quote from: Commando1
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
So anyway...  2 tire irons, a crow bar, 2 jacks, a jackstand, 2 exhaust clamps, some duct tape,  my basic socket set, a block of wood, a hammer, and a table vice...
 
 
Yeah, what Stan said...
 
I hope yooz two used 3/8" clamps and not those cheezy 5/16" ones.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on October 03, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
We used Fairly heavy duty clamps so it'll be okay for the time being. What I need is a cross reference for the proper part number so I can put the correct stuff on there.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on October 03, 2008, 04:04:37 PM
Good job fellas!!!!  Where would Mobby be w/o P!!!????
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Stitcherbob on October 03, 2008, 04:07:25 PM
Instead of all that Mob could have bought my Cordoba....the leafs are fine in that car!

Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Brian on October 03, 2008, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
We used Fairly heavy duty clamps so it'll be okay for the time being. What I need is a cross reference for the proper part number so I can put the correct stuff on there.
 
Go to any spring shop and tell them what you need and they should be able to hook you up.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on October 04, 2008, 05:43:44 AM
Alright, I just don't know of any spring shops around here. I may have to wait for Steve to get home and see what Raymond can do.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Stitcherbob on October 04, 2008, 06:26:36 AM

P....go here:

http://www.jensonandmitchell.com/ (http://www.jensonandmitchell.com/)

http://www.jensonandmitchell.com/aboutus.asp (http://www.jensonandmitchell.com/aboutus.asp)

They are the ones we used at the resto shop for years

stitcherbob2008-10-04 11:28:47
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on October 04, 2008, 06:43:06 AM
Thanks Bob I'll give it a look.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 04, 2008, 06:55:31 AM
Quote from: ardog
Good job fellas!!!!  Where would Mobby be w/o P!!!????
Ketchup loves Potates....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZ62XvJHVQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZ62XvJHVQ&feature=related)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
Hey John. . .You fixing Apollo 13 there?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
I rode around for years in several cars with hose clamps on the springs, never broke one.  How is it you broke both?   MMMMMMMMM
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 04, 2008, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
Hey John. . .You fixing Apollo 13 there?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97zRuHVFTbU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97zRuHVFTbU&feature=related)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2008, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: CBarge
Quote from: POLARACO
Hey John. . .You fixing Apollo 13 there?(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
 
Hey HEY  HEY!
 
No come on now.  Did I say that?
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Leaburn Patey on October 04, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
No you did NOT say it but you were thinking it!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
LOL
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2008, 06:11:19 AM
Quote from: Potatoe
Alright, I just don't know of any spring shops around here. I may have to wait for Steve to get home and see what Raymond can do.
 
What do you need to know?
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: R. Dave Carr on October 05, 2008, 06:12:49 AM
Quote from: ardog
Good job fellas!!!!  Where would Mobby be w/o P!!!????
 
Walking.
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2008, 03:39:03 PM
(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/attachments/5/Mobby.gif)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Mike on October 06, 2008, 08:33:12 AM
  Steve, Bobby gave me a web site to order the correct part for
those leafs, I just don't know the correct terminology for them.
Figured if anyone knew where to get them with out having to order them
from a seperate manufacturer you prob would.

   The exhaust pipe clamps that are on there are fine for now , but i want to put the correct parts on there.



Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 06, 2008, 10:00:10 AM
I dunno. . .spring straps I guess
 
I have a set somewhere. . .  but don't know if they are up or down
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Robert Rottman on October 14, 2008, 05:25:54 PM
Mobby, Don't let these guys make fun of the way you drive/hop....you get along whatever way you want....especially now that you have muffler clamps on your leaf springs.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Steve on October 14, 2008, 05:58:50 PM
Geee thanks Tom
 
You don't live near him!  You should feel more sorry for Potatoe! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  He sees him every day!
Title: rear leaf failure...
Post by: Ken on October 14, 2008, 06:00:28 PM
I have to wonder if, whenever Mobby turns a corner in the '72, the theme for "Sanford and Son" is heard in the background? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)