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Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 22, 2008, 03:04:09 PM
hey everybody...
 
so i have reverse lights, turn signals and the lights that come on when i turn the headlights on....
 
No brake lights though, at all...
 
ideas?
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Matt Aker on September 22, 2008, 03:09:10 PM
Your nuetral safety switch is bad.  See the thread about your starting issue! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)  JOHN!
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Brian on September 22, 2008, 03:09:39 PM
Little switch up on the brake pedal arm...may have wiggle loose and backed off or is fried and you need an new one.   If your car came with cruise control it may be a different unit and will require one from a car of the same era and with cruise.  If your lucky it may be the simple unit used in most mopar from 60's through the 90's.
 
 
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Steve on September 22, 2008, 03:22:12 PM
What Brian said and possible a bad turn signal switch.  But it's usually only one side.
 
Yer killin' me!  Move closer and get some money
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 22, 2008, 07:29:23 PM
Yea and start callin you uncle hobby....

im picking up a nuetral safety on weds...

ill look at the brake pedal area tommorow and see if anythings hanging... no cruise control on my car...

my turn signals work, both sides...

MobStaffCar722008-09-23 00:30:05
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Brian on September 22, 2008, 08:05:07 PM
The neutral safety switch will not have anything to do with your brake lights...but I know it has to do with your starting problem though.
 
Also as Steve said it may be your turn signal switch, since ma mopar ran all your brake lights, turn signal and running lights through the turnsignal switch.  But as state most fo the time you will then only have brake lights on one side or signals and no brake lights or no running lights but brake lights...been there...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif)
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Steve on September 23, 2008, 02:43:27 AM
I can't believe Mobby is telling me what it can't be
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Butch Houghton on September 23, 2008, 05:17:43 AM
Just to throw another one in....it could be the Hazard warning switch too.   The Fury did that back in the early 90's.

Hazard switch is built into the turn signal switch & is just upstream of the T/S assembly on the 70.   Had to solder jumper wires around the Hazard switch to get the brake lights back.

I'm thinking Mobby's would still have it there too.   Pull the Hazards & see if they work.

Start where everybody says,  Brake switch near the brake pedal & go from there.

Butch


Title: no brake lights
Post by: Snotty on September 23, 2008, 08:59:47 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
so i have reverse lights, turn signals and the lights that come on when i turn the headlights on....
 
 
I agree with the comments about the switch at the pedal.  However, no one has asked you this - do your signal lights work when the parking lamps are on?  In other words, are your bulbs good?  I've seen bulbs blink but stop when the ligts are turned on.
 
Just a thought....
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 23, 2008, 06:06:10 PM
bulbs blink...

my hazzards do not work... havent for about a year... some might remember that i left the flashers on and the collum started smoking...

looked at the switch on the pedal... looks fine to me... but what do i know...

napa is asking if the stop light switch is threaded or not...


Title: no brake lights
Post by: Steve on September 23, 2008, 06:39:43 PM
The hazards are part of the turn signal switch
 
I forgot about you smoking the column.
 
John. . .you are absolutely incredible.  I never saw anybody have so may freak problems
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 23, 2008, 07:17:54 PM
Steve,I told ya that John and Nadine have a love-hate realtionship.
Nadine is a nice car--and a daily driver--nothing wrong with that.
Just the bugs she has been getting would have crept up many years ago if the car got the road time it is getting now.
I just read everyone's posts.
Nobody mentioned CHECK THE FUSE.
The "stop lamp" has its own fuse.
Check it,John
Not blown?
 Break out the testlight.
Check for power at the brake light switch at the brake pedal (white wire),then check for power at the pink wire going to to the steering column with brake pedal depressed.Juice going in ok?? 
 
Pull the left kickpanel to expose the rear light wire harness.
Test the brown and dark green wires with brake pedal depressed.
If juice is going to the pedal switch and going into the steering column and not going to the wires to the rear harness,then it is the turnsignal switch.
CBarge2008-09-24 00:44:34
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2008, 07:21:09 PM
To check your switch remove the two wires then hook a 12V power to one of the terminals then use a test light s and bround the alligator clip and the put the test light to the other terminal....it should light up when the pedal is depressed.  If it doesn't then it's fried.


Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 24, 2008, 07:18:06 AM
and today the brake lights work... im guessing it was a fluke deal... out for two days.... back on  for now...

lea i did check that fuse... old glass type gotta love it... it's good...
id rather not mess to much with wires on a just cause principal...
just cause i'm no good with electrics...




Title: no brake lights
Post by: Steve on September 24, 2008, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
 
 
Boy there's an understatement.  He uses scotch tape.  Not even Duct Tape!
 
Tell me Mob, what are you good at beside breaking things? (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
And driving me nuts
 
POLARACO2008-09-24 14:13:15
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Snotty on September 24, 2008, 02:39:49 PM
[/QUOTE]
 
Do they blink when the parking lights are on?  (That was my full question.)
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 24, 2008, 03:23:57 PM
Only Mobby would make a train take a  down a dirt road.....(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
Like a clock that tocks but no tick...
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 24, 2008, 06:45:45 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/MobStaffCar72NwYkr/whome.jpg)
What can I say....


Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on September 24, 2008, 06:46:28 PM
yes they blink with or without the parking lights...

Title: no brake lights
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 25, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
"Hey Ma,come and check my brake lights will ya????" (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)!!!
Mob, if they didn't work the other day and now they do,you have a short some where or some problem somewhere.
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Matt Aker on September 25, 2008, 02:59:52 PM
I've had pedal-mounted switches act like this.  Buy a new one.
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Steve on September 25, 2008, 04:23:31 PM
There's a nut on the loose
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Leaburn Patey on September 25, 2008, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
There's a nut on the loose
..and he is behind the wheel of a yellow 72 NY'er
Note:wasted Potato settling into back seat for the snooze home..LOL (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
CBarge2008-09-25 21:38:06
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Mike on September 27, 2008, 12:23:22 PM
Well Lea, After Tie-ing one on you get kinda tired and have to recharge your batteries.



Title: no brake lights
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 27, 2008, 01:11:44 PM
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Shucks P!!! Weebee should know that more than anyone!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Mike on September 28, 2008, 12:19:35 PM

Quote from: ardog
Quote from: Potatoe
Well Lea, After Tie-ing one on you get kinda tired and have to recharge your batteries.



(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) You get a bookie roll Ar!


Title: no brake lights
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 28, 2008, 12:38:06 PM
Whoo-Hoo!!!
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  Bookie!!!!!!
Title: no brake lights
Post by: Johnny D. on October 27, 2008, 05:31:31 AM
Steve is gonna love this... but it might entertain some of you...

Not wanting to get a ticket for no brake lights, i jumped the normal wiring system with a wire from the working brake switch on the pedal all the way into the trunk connector, so i've got brake lights now as a temporary measure until whatever is screwy in my column  gets sorted...

Its funny because when you push the pedal the front parking lights, and the dash lights glow.... if the doors open you get the buzzer too... along of course with the brake lights...

no worries nothing was cut or spliced up.... i used connectors...
 

Title: no brake lights
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 27, 2008, 06:07:39 AM
Quote from: MobStaffCar72
Steve is gonna love this...no worries nothing was cut or spliced up.... i used connectors...  
 
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2n669oh.jpg)
Title: no brake lights
Post by: AJ on October 27, 2008, 11:58:54 AM
Also agree with the brake switch on the floor but on my Lumina it was my Turn Signal switch in the column.  Brake lights went thru the switch - my 3rd brake light would work fine but not my others.  My signals would work fine but no brakes.  Got so frustrated that I almost completely re-wired my brake light circuit to work via the brake pedal switch...but just replaced the turn signal switch - a month later was rearended, anyway!  Go figure!