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Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 14, 2008, 11:16:24 AM
    Well From our get together on August 26th the Master
El Blossman concluded that John needed the bands on his trans Adjusted.

 

Okay No Problemo..... Wrong We have no idea how to do it and Even
though he has the chassis manual what if we do somthing wrong and
completely screw up the trans.



Thats Bad News Bears, so from yoose guys personal experience whats the
best way to go about this. We can't let this go on too long, and the
blossman is very busy so whats our best bet?

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 14, 2008, 12:41:20 PM
Read Re-read and completely understand.
 
P  It's really simple.  The worst case is you may have to go back in and re-adjust.
 
Loosen the locking nut on the band.  Turn it in with your fingers until it stops.  Take a wrench and tweak it tight.  I mean just a NUDGE!  Not a MOBBY Nudge, 12 feet of leverage.  Just snug it up.
 
Once snug, note the position of the wrench and back the adjuster screw out the specified number of turns.  Hold the adjuster in place and tighten the locking nut.
 
It's OK if it's an 1/8 to a 1/4 tight.
 
Follow the same proceedure on the outside band
 
Simple
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Snotty on September 15, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
Yes, it is easy.  The manuals do call for specific torque, but most people do not have a torque wrench in inch pounds.  Be sure to back it off the exact number the book says.
 
Beyond that, simple!
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 15, 2008, 02:12:01 PM

  So I loosen the nut untill i cant turn it with my fingers and
give it a small tweek to snug it up. Then losent the adjuster screw the
specified number of turns hold the adjuster and tighten the locking
nut.

   Question, Do i have to re tighten the adjuster screw?
Potatoe2008-09-15 19:12:23
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 15, 2008, 03:59:25 PM
Its been a while since I've done it but corrupt me if I'm wrong, the adjusting screw has a square head on it and the lock nut looks like a regular nut.
Loosen the lock nut then turn the square head bolt in with your fingers till it stops then NUDGE it snug. then tighten the lock nut (the regular looking nut)


 
Is that what you meant Hobbster????
You don't want to loosen the adjusting bolt (square headed one) P that will Unadjust the bands!!!! That will be bad.


Ar
 
I'm not trying to confuse the boys but I don't want them UN-adjusting anything!!!
Just trying to help
ardog2008-09-15 21:50:29
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2008, 04:32:30 PM
Oh you're a loose nut OK (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
No
You loosen the nut, turn the adjuster all the way in until snug.  Then you back out the adjuster the specified # of turns, THEN tighten the loose nut. 
*****which is what I am going to do to you if you don't pay attention in class******
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 15, 2008, 04:33:36 PM
  Wish you were closer too Ar. I'm just a little confused is all. I would be more comfortable with proper supervision.

 Hey Professor Hobby, Backing out the screw is what's confusing me. I need to be right on the money with this operation.

 


Potatoe2008-09-15 21:35:25
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2008, 04:34:34 PM
Soon P Head. . .Soon
 
POLARACO2008-09-15 21:34:54
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 15, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
  Alright I'll just keep my jump suit pad and pen in the car
untill your ready. Like I said I don't want to be responsible for
messing up the Trans due to lack of experience. Thats out of my realm.
By that point Steve I'll have the Universal done, No I havent done it
yet things are a little hecktick with the start of the semester it will
be done soon.

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 15, 2008, 04:49:58 PM
Ok I gotcha now!!! Like I said its been a while since I did any band adjusting and that was on a 904 in my Duster. It was at school and I had an inch pound torque wrench!!!
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2008, 05:51:19 PM
Quote from: Potatoe
  Alright I'll just keep my jump suit pad and pen in the car untill your ready. Like I said I don't want to be responsible for messing up the Trans due to lack of experience. Thats out of my realm. By that point Steve I'll have the Universal done, No I havent done it yet things are a little hecktick with the start of the semester it will be done soon.
 
Inch by Inch the Monster gets his car done.  When are you going to pull the dash apart?
 
How's the Monster doing on gass mileage anyway?  I haven't heard him complaining.
 
Wow.  The last things left are the heater controls, lower bushings, front shocks and the exhaust.  I can rebuild my spare control arms so we can just put them in.  It won't effect the alighment.  If anythign, it will bring it back closer to spec.  Get those wheels straight again and it will get another 1/2 mile per gallon.
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 15, 2008, 06:15:30 PM

Sounds like a plan Steve, Just let me know when you have the spare time
and we'll set up another work party and yet another session of HSM.
Potatoe2008-09-15 23:15:50
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Johnny D. on September 15, 2008, 06:18:12 PM

holding steady at around 10 mpg city/highway combined... i can deal with that. beats the hell outa 6-8 i was getting...

if only the oil light would stop coming on...


MobStaffCar722008-09-15 23:18:41
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2008, 06:43:59 PM
When did this start?

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 16, 2008, 11:27:54 AM
Sometime last week, He needs oil obviously.

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Steve on September 16, 2008, 12:48:38 PM
But you fixed the leak right?  I thought you just changed it???
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 16, 2008, 01:10:29 PM
Yes I did change the Filter and the Oil, but I gues its low from leaking else where and being from being burnt.

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Herman on September 18, 2008, 07:48:57 AM
The oillight shows a lack of pressure, not oillevel. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)



Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Mike on September 18, 2008, 07:50:45 AM
Well then there are some internal problems, oh boy.....

Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on September 27, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
but if you have low oil then you have low pressure. So it goes hand in hand.
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: glen cyr on October 20, 2008, 06:42:47 PM
When you use a 1/4" torque wrench,you will have to get an 8 point socket (i think it was 7/16') as the adjuster is square!. This drove me crazy until the snap-on guy showed up and he is a mopar man,so he knew what i needed! $10 and i was on my way!
 
Glen
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Stan Paralikis on October 21, 2008, 01:29:12 AM
8 pt. sockets are hard to find.  12 pt. sockets, commonly available work as well.
Title: Adjusting Bands
Post by: Stitcherbob on October 21, 2008, 04:36:43 AM
Sears has 'em cheep