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Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 08:28:13 AM
Guys, I want to put a clutch fan on the 300 while the radiator is being serviced.  It has a stock 6 blade on it now, and while I don't have cooling issues as of yet, I want to free up some drag on the engine, and maybe help mileage a bit.  Should is look for the big 7 blade clutch unit, or use the Mopar Performance 5 blade assembly as seen here:
 
http://www.jegs.com/i/Mopar%20Performance/312/P4120758/10002/-1 (http://www.jegs.com/i/Mopar%20Performance/312/P4120758/10002/-1)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Snotty on May 12, 2008, 08:48:26 AM
If your car has AC, and it works, you need the 7 blade fan.  If not, go with the one you demonstrated.  It should serve you well.
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 10:03:32 AM
I'm using a clutch and 5 blade fan off a mid eighties M-body...Fifth Ave I believe...exactly the same as the Jegs one for sale.  And I think I paid all of $25 for mine.

I'm using it on my 68 T/C wagon with a 440 and A/C and have not had any issues...yet..but I think Leaburn is using this same set-up on his Newyorker I believe.

 
But I also have...as fall back insurance, a 7 blade manual and clutch fan just in case.
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 10:34:14 AM
Can the clutch on this 7 blade be changed to a thermal clutch?
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutch-Fan-Chrysler-Plymouth-Dodge-Mopar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33600QQihZ013QQitemZ230251854546QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutch-Fan-Chrysler-Plymouth-Dodge-Mopar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33600QQihZ013QQitemZ230251854546QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
Yup the clutches are interchangeable....Damn good score!!!  3 fans and two clutches for $20!!!(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
Now you have a 5 and 7 blade fan you can try with the clutch and if all else fails use the manual 7 blade fan.....Hmmm seems I know someone else with this kind of foresight...(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 10:54:58 AM
Funny how that auction showed up right after what you posted!  I grabbed  them of course!
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
Wahhhhh   Wahhhhh   So your the guy. . . . .

Good thing you said something. . .I was just about to out bid you.  They'll be more.  Besides, I still have a 5th to be torn apart herePOLARACO2008-05-12 15:58:11
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 10:58:18 AM
We're you thinking about them?   Damn I'm sorry Steve, I didn't mean to poach those from you.carrman2008-05-12 15:59:02
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
Just a little more info for you...I was looking at the fans you got and the only thing I can see that might be a problem is with the diameter of the fans.
 
I'm not sure of the exazct measurement and what year they changed but I'll say mid 70's and earlier used a smaller diameter fan than late 70's and newer.  There is about a 1 inch (25mm....hehehe..metric..(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)) difference in overall diameter.
 
So if your car has an original fan shroud you may not be able to use the later/bigger style fan.
 
But you can sometimes get a later fan shroud and it will bolt up to the earlier radiators.
 
I'm using the 71 300 rad in my 68 wagon and the shroud was toast...so I had another, mid/late 70's shroud (big diameter) and it bolted up fine.
 
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 11:00:44 AM
I have no shroud, so it shouldn't be a problem, provided Hobby lets me live for taking those from under his nose!
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Leaburn Patey on May 12, 2008, 02:07:32 PM
The NY'er has its factory 7 blade fan.
The BoaB will be using the Dippy 5 blade fan with '67 factory fan shroud and rad.
The Mopar one is a copy of the M body one-as far as I am concerned.The biggest difference between them is price.I got the 5 blade from a 85 Caravelle I parted out for my Dippy.
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2008, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: carrman
I have no shroud, so it shouldn't be a problem, provided Hobby lets me live for taking those from under his nose!
 
There's two guys with no necks on their way out there in a private chartered jet.  They should be there any minute!  One of them is a 330 pounder I had the pleasure to be with Saturday.  So if Mobby is real  quiet for the next day or so, you'll know.  He's the one who will fill the door. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
I have a 5 blade I can use.  As far as I know, its lighter but beats the same amount of air as the 7 blade.  I just saw them as a bargan
 
Forgetaboutit!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
 
 
 
POLARACO2008-05-12 19:16:20
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2008, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: CBarge
The NY'er has its factory 7 blade fan.
The BoaB will be using the Dippy 5 blade fan with '67 factory fan shroud and rad.
 
I knew one of the cars either had one or was getting one...you were the one who gave me the idea to run one on my wagon...Thanks.(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Snotty on May 12, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: carrman
I have no shroud, so it shouldn't be a problem, provided Hobby lets me live for taking those from under his nose!
 
I have a shroud, but I use it only for touring.  I call it the...
 
Shroud of Touring!
 
Get it???  HA HA HA HA!  (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
 
SHroud of... oh never mind!
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Stitcherbob on May 12, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
Hey carrman, you're lucky Steve stopped bidding. I have seen him bid a 82 Imperial up just out of spite!


Oh yeah....shut up Snotty! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)


Title: Fans man.....
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 12, 2008, 07:56:36 PM
All it would have taken was a single bid to end the buy it now......
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Steve on May 13, 2008, 03:36:57 AM
The Jorsey Mob lives by principles. . . .(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Snotty on May 13, 2008, 10:44:21 AM
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Oh, NOW I know what Steve was talking about when I asked "How is Bobby?" while we were on the phone today?  Wrong side of the bed...Indeed!
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: steve fogel on May 13, 2008, 08:13:53 PM
I see, Polaraco buys them for $20 and sells them to us for $35......what a racket over 'dere in Joisey.........Snotty, don't we need a clutch from Oildale AP for that fan?
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: steve fogel on May 13, 2008, 08:14:44 PM
if you need a shroud, there's one for sale in Turin(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Fans man.....
Post by: Snotty on May 14, 2008, 11:54:50 AM
Hey - you got it!!
 
Yes, you need to buy a clutch so I can install the correct fan on your car.
 
Then the heater control...
 
Then the interior trim...
 
Then the heather core on the GTX...
 
then the.......