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Techical Discussions => Tech- - STEERING WHEELS AND SUSPENSION => Topic started by: James Brown Jr, on April 30, 2008, 12:38:27 PM

Title: Air shocks???
Post by: James Brown Jr, on April 30, 2008, 12:38:27 PM
what do people think of them?? and are they worth the money???
if they are good could someone recomend me a place to get them?????
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2008, 01:09:07 PM
Personally, I don't like them, but they serve a purpose. . I guess.
 
You're going to have to look around.  See if Rockauto.com has them listed and shop from there.
 
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: chuck lowe on April 30, 2008, 01:24:29 PM
            welllllllll---i like em and do have a set for my dart---not on yet because i want to get a set of springs first-they're a little saggy---the main things to remember are make sure you can get at the filler tube and to locate it in an area that accessable easily---as far as where-performance houses---and depending on the application KANTER---------
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Herman on April 30, 2008, 01:34:05 PM
I had them some years back on my '62 Wagon... I'm glad I got rid of them as they made the wagon unsafe(r) then it already was.
Now I always use shocks with helper-springs around them if I want to 'help' the old springs. They are much safer and less 'bouncy', and therefore more predictable.


Title: Air shocks???
Post by: James Brown Jr, on April 30, 2008, 02:44:38 PM
but are they safe to use for everyday use??? i often have a decent load and many large friends and i'm sick of my rear sagging. and can't afford new leaf springs. i was just thinking of using them just to keep it kind of level.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
Not sure what the shocks will cost, but a new set of springs from Alcan will be around $450 with the U-Bolts.  There is a set of pads in the springs that should be replaced, but not that important if you don't
 
Spanky, yer just to ornery to change those springs. (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)  Come on mannn!!!  They're 48 years old!  Don't make me come out there. . . (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Herman on April 30, 2008, 04:07:14 PM
Shocks with helper-springs raised the rear of my cars an average of 1 to 1.5 inch.
Personally, I will never buy airshocks for one of my cars.

Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2008, 04:10:39 PM
I just installed a 5 leaf upgrade in Polaraco.  I love them.  Had a pretty good load of passengers in there a few weeks ago and no sag. . .Well until I got in. . .(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Arlen Vander Hoff on April 30, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
JB, I've had em on a couple of cars with air shocks,including Ruby never had a problem (except the time a couple of buddies let the air out of em on me! (http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)(http://www.moparfins.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif))
The Cordoba turned kind of funny with them but I wouldn't say it was unsafe. And as for Ruby I think she rides just as smooth as any other C (but I do have the least amount of air in them that is recommemded 25psi. and even that raises her up a bit to a nice level stance)
 If your on a budget (like I know you are) I'd say they are worth the money vs. new springs. And if your talking for Susan I don't think you'd notice a ride difference either maybe just a bit stiffer.
ardog2008-04-30 23:23:31
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: James Brown Jr, on April 30, 2008, 06:38:17 PM
well summit and Rock auto has them for 69.95  so they are cheaper. i'm not too worried about the ride(it's too soft right now.) thanks guys
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Matt Aker on May 02, 2008, 11:09:16 AM
I'd put on a set of coil-over shocks over air shocks, a lot less hassle and yer not looking for a free air pump while out and about.  I had a set on my '68 Polara and they did exactly what you want for yer Fury.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: firedome on May 04, 2008, 04:36:51 AM
James: Air shocks are excellent IF you are loaded when you use them.
Let the air out when light loaded and you won't have a problem . I had
em on my '77 Gran Fury Brougham for 10 years for pulling a horse
trailer and an 18ft boat, they were great for that purpose.  I was
the only car pulling a hay burner trailer at any horse show we went
to.  Had to show them pick-em-ups what a C Body can do.  I
located the filler on the rear bumper near the hitch receiver. Highly
recommend 'em IF you are carrying a lot of weight from time to
time. 



Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on May 04, 2008, 04:45:17 AM
That's part of the problem with these License Plate Fill tanks.  Can't get to them.
 
Not only that, you can fill the car full if the nose is down when filling, but could be as much as a 1/4 tank low if the car is pointing uphill.  That's a new topic
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Snotty on May 05, 2008, 11:01:35 AM
It is my opinion that if your springs are weak the best thibng to do is to have them resprung or replaced.  But, since I am yet to do that on any of my cars I often turn to shocks for help.

I used air-shocks once.  After suffering from broken air lines twice I have never used them again - nor will I.  The lines broke when I was two hours from a shop.  Riding with my trailer hitch one inch from the ground, by the time I got to a shop the shocks were shot.  If they lose air they go bad quickly!  The first time they were replaced by warrantee.  The second time I was in Arizona and they were warranteed by the shop that installed them in Bakersfield.  I had the AZ shop install the most HD shocks the car would handle and continued on my camping trip.


 
Since then I have installed the coil-over shocks BB suggested.  They work well and ride like normal shocks until you put a load on them.  I've done so on three cars since.
 
If you can't afford new springs, that's the way to go.
 
IMO.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 05, 2008, 11:32:32 AM
So, does anyone have a brand name or part number for these coil overs?
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on May 05, 2008, 12:26:57 PM
I don't think the coil overs are made anymore.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 05, 2008, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: POLARACO
I don't think the coil overs are made anymore.
 
carrman2008-05-05 18:00:28
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: James Brown Jr, on May 05, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
all the good stuff isn't made anymore
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Herman on May 05, 2008, 01:12:17 PM

Quote from: POLARACO
I don't think the coil overs are made anymore.

Since when?
I got a new set under my car. I've saved the partnumber of the box they came in. I can check for it and post it here the next time I've been in the garage.
Look for NAPA SensaTrac's or KYB's.

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Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Steve on May 05, 2008, 01:26:01 PM
Maybe. . .
 
I don't remember the application, but I tried to buy a set a few years ago and couldn't gte them.  Well at least in Monroe.
 
I don't use NAPA.  That place is nuts.  Over priced and never the right thing.  The only time it's right is if I look it up myself.  Even then I find a different source.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: R. Dave Carr on May 05, 2008, 01:31:25 PM
I have access to a good NAPA here, and get discounts because of my employer.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: James Brown Jr, on May 05, 2008, 02:41:37 PM
well who's the lucky one. lol

Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Herman on May 05, 2008, 02:45:46 PM

Quote from: carrman
I have access to a good NAPA here, and get discounts because of my employer.

Ok, I'm going from memory here, but try the NAPA "59489" Sensatrac shock.
I'll be in my garage tomorrow and if I don't forget I'll try to note down the partnumber on the box.


Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Snotty on May 05, 2008, 05:49:31 PM
I bought mine fr the Newport (in 2004) from a tire and alignment shop.  They had to order them, but I'd bet they are still plenty available.  They're not cheap! 
 
Go to a local tire shop and ask.
 
Keep looking.
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Snotty on May 05, 2008, 05:53:55 PM
http://www.shockshopusa.com/coilover-shocks.html (http://www.shockshopusa.com/coilover-shocks.html)



 
The above site offers GAbriels for $78-88 each - or was it a pair?
 
I don't rememebr, but check out this site.
 
Title: Air shocks???
Post by: Snotty on May 05, 2008, 05:54:36 PM
It was a pair.  That's cheap!
 
The same site offers air shocks as well.