MoparFins

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

We changed servers, which is good, and lost all passwords, which is bad. See above.

Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8] 9   Go Down

Author Topic: Difference in Engines  (Read 9744 times)

Snotty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 3972
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #105 on: October 28, 2007, 04:37:12 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
If you are using the trusty book i have. . it's wrong.  The 360 wasn't offered until 1973 in the Newport.  It also had electronic ignition standard then.
 
 
A "K" in the VIN of a '71 indicates a 360 2bbl.  That's what this car had which was why I looked.  My '75 Chilton's book has it that way as well.  The 360 4bbl was not available until '74.
Logged
It's green here in Chico!!

Steve

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Posts: 8653
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #106 on: October 28, 2007, 05:05:38 PM »

I know it was in Plymouth. . .I had one.  I was talking about the CHRYSLER line up.  I know it was not available until 73 in the Newport.  The rest were 383's.
 
I'm asking about the Polara in 71.  Was it available in Dodge then?  I know it was in 72.  Have 2 of those
Logged
Favorite Expression. . . Damned Kids.  Lots of projects.  Donations accepted

Snotty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 3972
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #107 on: October 28, 2007, 08:22:22 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
I know it was not available until 73 in the Newport.  The rest were 383's.
 
 
Steve, my friend, you're wrong.
 
Open the Bible - Statndard Catalog of Chrysler - to the 1971 Chrysler section.  Now, read the first paragraph under the "Newport Royal" heading.
 
Don't feel bad; I was wrong too when I said they first appeared in '72.
 
We're never too old to learn new things. 
Logged
It's green here in Chico!!

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #108 on: October 28, 2007, 10:20:17 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
Foamy. . .Parts car.
 
 
yea Steve i saw it. and i want it lol. but hey there is a differance between WANT and NEED. hey wait a min i NEED another C just like i NEED that doba.
Logged
176K miles 10/22

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #109 on: November 13, 2007, 03:07:12 PM »

hey guys what sizes were available for the /6??? and what were the differences throughout the years.
me and a friend of mine got talking and i realized that i don't know much about this engine. and Wikipedia doesn't offer much info
Logged
176K miles 10/22

Leaburn Patey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 4606
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #110 on: November 13, 2007, 03:59:33 PM »

170,198,225
Logged
1968 Newport Custom project BOAB
1973 Satelitte wagon
1983 Dodge 400
2006 300C HEMI!!

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #111 on: November 13, 2007, 04:05:02 PM »

i always thought there was a 4th size..
did they change much thru the years?
Logged
176K miles 10/22

Leaburn Patey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 4606
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #112 on: November 13, 2007, 04:05:24 PM »

Quote from: Snotty
Quote from: POLARACO
I know it was not available until 73 in the Newport.  The rest were 383's.
 
 
Steve, my friend, you're wrong.
 
Open the Bible - Statndard Catalog of Chrysler - to the 1971 Chrysler section.  Now, read the first paragraph under the "Newport Royal" heading.
 
Don't feel bad; I was wrong too when I said they first appeared in '72.
 
Also listed on the Fuselage web site.
.BTW,by '73 the 383 was  disc'od for a year already and the 400 took its place.'71 last year for 383.
The entry level "Royal" came standard with the 360 2bbl in 1971
CBarge2007-11-13 21:11:25
Logged
1968 Newport Custom project BOAB
1973 Satelitte wagon
1983 Dodge 400
2006 300C HEMI!!

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2007, 05:03:50 AM »

are the ONLY differences in the RB a B blocks the deck height??
how hard is it to go from LA  to RB or B???.
Foamy_3022007-11-14 10:04:31
Logged
176K miles 10/22

Snotty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 3972
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2007, 07:13:12 AM »

Quote from: CBarge
The entry level "Royal" came standard with the 360 2bbl in 1971
 
Yes, that is the car that is for sale on ebay under the heading "Jimmys Dead - I got his car!"  He is asking for a starting bid over 6 grand with no reserve.  He also lists the car as having 200,000 miles!  Whoa!
Logged
It's green here in Chico!!

Snotty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 3972
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2007, 07:18:34 AM »

Quote from: Foamy_302
are the ONLY differences in the RB a B blocks the deck height??
 
Yes, plus larger crank and pistons.  The RB is about two inches wider than a B.  The RB has a wider intake and longer distributor than the B.  Heads and exhaust manifolds are interchangable between the two.
 
To put a B/RB into a car where an A sat takes new motor mounts, different (larger) radiator and a Big Block specific transmission if going auto, and a BB bellhousing if going manual trans.  You will also need to change the driveshaft to a different length.
 
Finally, that tiny 2.32 rear that most M Bodies had will not work with a BB, so that will need to be changed as well.
 
In other words, what it takes is quite a bit of money. 
Logged
It's green here in Chico!!

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2007, 10:28:01 AM »

yea he has a little bit and is a VERY persistant guy. i figured about the Rad, and Motor mounts. so i'd need to get a A727 from a BB?? should he just get a parts car??
cuz he has a 69 440 Coronet with no interior and floors that runs and drives.
how much Fab work would be needed
Logged
176K miles 10/22

Arlen Vander Hoff

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 2414
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2007, 10:17:33 PM »

 
Quote from: Foamy_302
yea he has a little bit and is a VERY persistant guy. i figured about the Rad, and Motor mounts. so i'd need to get a A727 from a BB?? should he just get a parts car??
cuz he has a 69 440 Coronet with no interior and floors that runs and drives.

I would think it would be easier to put a floor and seats in the Coronet IMHO.
Logged

James Brown Jr,

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1140
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #118 on: November 15, 2007, 05:58:35 AM »

ohh the Coronet has more damage than that. the whole body is shot, no windows in the car. it's only use is for the drive train.lol
Logged
176K miles 10/22

Snotty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 3972
    • View Profile
Difference in Engines
« Reply #119 on: November 15, 2007, 09:13:14 AM »

Quote from: Foamy_302
so i'd need to get a A727 from a BB??
 
Yes, the 727's bell is specific to small or big block motors due to the bolt pattern. 
 
As for fabricating, I don't know, but surely this has been done before.  I did find myself wondering is a BB would fit into an M's engine bay, or whether the shock towers would be too close?
 
You said you have a Coronet 440.  Is it a "Coronet 440" or a Coronet with a 440?  On the model "Coronet 440," the 440 does not indicate the size of the motor.  (Not trying to insult you, but I have found people who do not know this.  Most C 440s came with 318s.)
 
If your buddy wants good power but wants to avoind all of the hassle, a good built 360 would be a bolt-in.  You woud still need to swap the rear and perhaps think about going with a SB 727.
Logged
It's green here in Chico!!
Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8] 9   Go Up
 

© 2008-2014 Steve Hobby • © 2015 Allpar, LLC