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Author Topic: What Mopar do you think is the most Valuable?  (Read 1965 times)

Snotty

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 10:20:30 AM »

"Valuable" is, and always will be, a subjective question.  Hemi Cuda verts draw the big bucks today, but in 1986 they got half of what a '57 Chevy 'vert got. 
 
So, if your question is, "If you had unlimited funds, what car would you buy today?" my answer would be a '60 300 F 4-Speed.  Name the price and I'd pay it.
 
By the way, that has been my answer since 1984 when I first read about them.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2008, 03:11:04 AM »

I'm with Snotty!! The '60 300 F is MY favorite Mopar hands down!!!
Of course it would have to be RED!
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 04:29:06 AM »

Did some research - the car that went down on the Andrea Doria was the
"Norseman" custom one-off fastback hardtop coupe that was not actually
a show car, but had a novel cantilevered roof supported entirely by the
C pillars with no A or B pillars! - it was to undergo strength testing
in Detroit... very odd looking. There a pic of it in "Chrysler &
Imperial - The Postwar Years" by noted automotive historian Richard
Langworth... one of the best Chrysler history books ever, but now out
of print, bought it in the late '70s when it was published... 
looking it over, I'd have to say the most valuable Chrysler, besides
the Thunderbolt show car, would probably be the 1956 Imperial Parade
Dual Cowl Phaeton... only 3 were built, by Chrysler, not Ghia, 
for parades - one for NY, one for LA, one for Detroit... used only for
Presidents, Astronauts and visiting Heads of State in the 3 cities...
built from a stretched Crown Imperial with a special Hemi 354 bored out
to ?, a near 150" wheel base chassis,  each was a different color
- cream for LA, black for NY and metallic green for Detroit. Looked
like a '56 Imperial in front, a long open 4 dr dual cowling convertible
car with twin windshields, with special reinforced chassis and custom
oversize Kelsey Hayes wire wheels.  2 of them were eventually
scrapped, but 1 survived in the Paul Stern Collection of Manheim
PA  (I think he founded the Manheim Auto Auction empire, biggest
in the US - a Mopar fan, he had the best Mopar collection in the world
when he died in the '90s)... I believe this,  the only surviving
Parade Phaeton, would be the most valuable Mopar in the world, pics
still exist of every President from Eisenhower thru Ford, and of the
most famous people in the world who rode in it in parades in those 3
cities..., if it ever came up for auction, the sky's the limit.





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Herman

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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 05:00:25 AM »


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Amen! I wouldn't mind if it was a convertible either.
When I spotted a 1960 Chrysler 300F convertible 'projectcar' for sale in Belgium for 20.000Euros, I was more than ready to sell my '65 300 convertible to free up the money for it's purchase.
But alas I found out the car was already sold twice and was on it's way to Sweden already, where about all the best models go to.


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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 06:18:39 AM »

What's this about Sweden? I have sold some shtuff on ebay to them for mucho euros.....why are they better off?

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Herman

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 06:36:20 AM »

The Swedes know their stuff about what's valuable and rare and such way better than the people in other European countries. Therefore most of the 'good' stuff goes to Sweden.


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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 08:36:15 AM »

Actually, many of the folks in different Euro countries appreciate Mopar's good design and engineering. All you have to do is look at the membership of ForwardLook.net - many from England, Holland, Germany France, Sweden, Finland, Norway. They started buying up the rarest and best FL models quietly in the late '70s, early '80s while we Americans fixated on '57 Ch..ies and hot rods.  They appreciated early-on Exner's design genius, compared to the mostly gorpy '50s GM syling. Of the 5 known 1958 DeSoto Adventurer convertibles left in the world, 2 are in Sweden. Just look at the FL thread on the Vasteras Show - it will blow your mind! My old '58 black NYer 'vert is shown on there, it's also now in Sweden. I have never seen so many rare FL cars at ANY US show, even Chryslers at Carlisle.... and they have the money, because the standard of living is Europe is now higher than ours, even though Americans don't want to admit it... we are now ranked something like 11th in the world, even worse for life expectancy and other social well being indicators. The average US worker now makes less than they did in back in 1973, factoring in inflation. Manufacturing is going south fast here, and the dollar is in the toilet, while the Euro is now worth 50% more, where it was at parity 7-8 yrs ago. Perfect example: Pharmaceuticals. We owned that industry once, now the world leaders are mostly European. My daughter works for Novartis (Swiss). Europe is way ahead in alternative energy research, since Reagan killed that industry in the 80s with tax cuts. Heard of Nokia, Siemens, Bosch? All huge high tech wealth generators. To a European, buying a $9000 car is like getting it for $6000. These are just some of the reasons we can't compete now that the collector car market is truly global ... just ask Steve where his '71 Fury went... we have quite a few Euro members here.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 09:38:46 AM »

The Fury went to a good home.  I can see that.
 
Just remember, everything has cycles.  There are some things just not made here anymore at all.  If China goes into the dumper, we could be in deep trouble.
 
The public is as much to blame as the politicians for all this.
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2008, 05:52:53 AM »

Wasn't implying that the F3 had a bad home in any way - Heck, I'm
Swedish - my Great Grandpa came from Goteborg.  The quality of
resto work they do over there is just amazing!! Some of the FLs in
Sweden are good or better than anything that's done here...that's what
you do when you have 9 months of winter!!  But  given the
reality of excahnge rates, once a car is in Europe, it won't likely be
coming back home any time soon, unless we rein in Wall Street
speculation, which I wouldn't want to bet on...



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Steve

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2008, 07:24:00 AM »

Oh I know. . . It was just a general statement about our economy and our environment.  No foul
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