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« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2008, 12:53:08 PM »

Thanks Dave, So I knew that at one time Chessie as its own company did
it consolidate or merge to form CSX or is it still its own company?

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« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2008, 12:57:30 PM »

CSX was the merger of the Seaboard Coast Line and Chessie System, both of which were the products of mergers.
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« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2008, 12:59:24 PM »

Your right on today Dave! Thanks again for answering my questions.

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« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2008, 01:04:15 PM »

Trains have been a life long hobby of mine.  I moderate a couple of Yahoo railroad related mailing lists, I'm president of our local model railroad club, and I write product reviews for "Model Railroad News".  You can say I'm a bit into it......
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« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2008, 02:06:58 PM »

No, Dave LeVan retired to Gettysburg, grew a ponytail and rides
Harley's from his dealership, after he arranged the sale of ConRail. He
was also Pres. of the Board of Trustees of Gettysburg College. ConRail
was formed from the remains of the Penn Central and NY Central. CSX was
run by John Snow until he went to work as Treasury Secretary in
2002(?)... CSX was the Chessie System, which itself was formed from a
merger of the B & O, Baltimore & Ohio, the country's oldest
railroad (see "Tom Thumb") and the C & O,  Chesapeake and
Ohio, back around the '70s. I think the Norfolk Southern was in there
too...my wife's Mom & Uncle both worked for the B & O in
Baltimore back in the '40s to '60s.



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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2008, 02:10:52 PM »

Instead of Norfolk Southern, think Western Maryland.  The original NS went into the Southern.  Conrail was comprised of the Erie Lackawanna, Central of New Jersey,  Lehigh and Hudson River, Lehigh Valley, the Reading, and Penn Central.  These lines were all bankrupt and bleeding at the formation of Conrail on April Fools Day 1976.  Penn Central was the core of the new Conrail system.  Penn Central itself had been formed by the merger of old rivals New York Central, and the Pennsylvania, with the New York, New Haven, and Hartford forced onto the PC by the ICC in 1969.carrman2008-03-19 18:20:49
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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2008, 02:23:25 PM »


 





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« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2008, 02:25:18 PM »

Well I knew all of the major components of CR off the top of my head....
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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2008, 02:30:36 PM »

I figured if anyone did it would be you Dave   I just wish I could find comparable heritage charts for CSX Transportation and NS Corp.
 
It's all NS and R J Corman around here.  Corman is getting big however.  With the increasing comeback of the coal industry they are a shiny new penny in the eyes of investors.
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« Reply #84 on: March 20, 2008, 02:10:37 PM »

Maybe ALCO should start building steam engines again. The only problem is the tree huggers would cry too much.

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« Reply #85 on: March 20, 2008, 02:19:19 PM »

If my memory stands correct there was a steam locomotive design proposed as late as the early '80s.  The designer was Ross Rowland (some of you should know that name) and it was based on a 4-8-4 wheel arrangement and could meet the EPA requirements of that time.  I don't recall if was a coal or oil burning design however.  I need to dig out the TRAINS magazine... 
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« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2008, 02:22:06 PM »

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« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2008, 02:25:11 PM »

Thanks Dave!  You just saved me a trip to the attic
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« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2008, 02:29:34 PM »

Very Interesting article!! Which railroad was C & O?. The ACE 3000
looks like a diesel locomotive with a steam engines bottom attached. It
just dosent look the same, but would still be an awsome idea! They have
the technology available these days to make burning coal really clean
and efficient. I think steam deserves another chance!

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« Reply #89 on: March 20, 2008, 02:49:28 PM »

Chesapeake and Ohio.  Chessie System and CSX came later.
 
C&O 614 (Lima-built 4-8-4 cir. 1948) is kept in Port Jervis, NJ. awaiting a few repairs so she can return to excursion service.  Ross Rowland spearheaded her restoration too.
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