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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2015, 06:45:02 AM »

The thing is, there are too many variables which are not added into any predicting of the outcome that we cannot add because nobody has any control over them. Just like trying to predict an earthquake or solar flares, their impact has more to do with weather patterns than is accounted for. Pollution is one thing, I am totally against that, we do need to keep things clean, but to say plant food in the air is bad, well, that is total bunk. Not only do trees need CO2, the oceans need it, too. If the PPM (yeah, parts per million) were to rise too high, the ocean wave action combined with the salt and minerals in the water make calcium carbonate out of it, and shellfish need this in their diets to make shells. Don't pollute, and at the same time, don't try to take ocean temperatures near an underwater volcano (those things are warm), and yell the sky is warming. And the polar bear population? Almost double what it was in 1960 (as a matter of fact), so they aren't endangered at all. Recycling is a good thing, and if it doesn't get done, Mother Nature makes rust so she can do it herself, solar rays destroy other things (like the plastics, woods, fibers), and it all starts over.
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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2015, 10:40:23 AM »

I look at it this way.   Fudging the numbers is keeping much of climate scientists employed.  Else they'd be on welfare with everyone else and there's only so much to go around..  :P



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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2015, 06:11:49 AM »

ALL science is, by definition, theoretical.  Theory developed by experimentation, observation, data collection and analysis, and to say that a theory has to be proven to be a static fact to be actionable, based on our best current knowledge, is just plain absurd. 





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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2015, 06:20:19 AM »

Yes, but we have gone backwards in such a bad way. In some countries, the government runs and controls everything, so the best way to survive is to do enough to get by, and not do anything extra because it will simply be taken away in order for the govmt to make everything "equal" for all, and control what advances and what doesn't. The other side is to allow the freedom to do as much as you want, but at the same time, be safe and be safe with everything around you, the more you do, the more you have, your rise is up to you, not the govmt telling you what you can and cannot do. From this point, our system has been harmed though the govmt "helping", whereas you are right, instead of those scientists having to go out and work to find the money, get donors and supporters, the govmt has decided to socially control everything by becoming the money, supporting what they want and, well, essentially doing what the Communists, Marxists, etc., do. Gotta get them on the dole, then they can control the agenda.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2015, 09:56:09 AM »

Very interesting comments guys...Much to think about, read and learn. ;)

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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2015, 11:24:24 AM »

Meh, They've been saying the earth is warming and sea levels were going to rise since the 20's.  In the 70's it was cooling.  Pretty much points me to people will state whatever they need to state to make money.  Crack pots to scientists to politicians to sales people all ride in the same boat.  In the 80's Reagan was gunna kill us all.    in the 90's it was the end of the world.   In the 2000's brown people in the sand are going to come kill us all.

Not a one has happened, Not a one will happen. 


 I really don't have a problem with any of it other than theory being presented as fact.   Plenty of science is fact.     

If we're merely going to do things because the merely because the potential consequences of in-action far out weigh the actions to prevent said consequences, I reckon there's going to be a lot more people showing up to churches.... 




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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2015, 12:16:15 AM »

And now back to my regularly scheduled complaining about the cold.

BRRRRRRRRR

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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2015, 07:18:50 AM »

Yeah.  Not as bad as last week
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2015, 09:30:49 AM »

-1F here tonight.  Cold enough for me.

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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2015, 05:03:01 PM »


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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2015, 03:49:37 AM »

LOL

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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2015, 06:40:54 PM »



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« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2015, 02:38:38 AM »

It'll happen as soon as we hit like 70 here.
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2015, 07:00:31 AM »


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