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Snotty

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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2013, 09:22:58 AM »

The most recent VW minivan is also a Chrysler.




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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2013, 09:25:00 AM »

Never mind, picture posted.Snotty2013-10-24 14:19:13
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2013, 12:06:46 PM »

Like Sjak says, in some ways current Euro safety and emssion standards are actually higher these days, they had the first pedestrian safety standards that required front end engine-hood clearance redesigns, and the new Euro 2014 emission requirements are the most stringent in the world.  Their crash tests are more rigorous than ours, they were first to do offset head-on testing &c.  Personally I think the amazing symbiosis of Chrysler and Fiat has been clearly evident, as mentioned in the article, and both partners have benefited, plus the fact that VM-Motori, the fact that largest diesel engine mfr in the world, is also owned by Fiat, will hopefully portend more modern high-tech diesels in passenger cars here. I, for one, want to see a plug-in 4 cyl turbo-diesel hybrid car, pickup, and SUV!  It would be competition for the upcoming amazing full electric/hybrid that SAAB is going to be bringing out with a hyper-leap in advanced battery technology... the future is here, folks, we'd be smart to embrace it and not live in the past.



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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 12:30:31 AM »

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I, for one, want to see a plug-in 4 cyl turbo-diesel hybrid car, pickup, and SUV! 



The Fiat-diesels are indeed excellent, on the same level as French diesel, and ahead of ze germans.










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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 09:18:17 AM »

Here's the Skoda I took a picture of in Israel.


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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2013, 09:31:44 AM »

Yes thats the octavia. Basically a golf with a trunk. The fun part though is that the skoda's score better in reliability than the parent-company.

The old Skoda's, from the time of the Iron Curtain, were very quirky cars.

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 12:47:06 PM »

My ancient experience with the French cars was very nice soft ride and amazingly comfortable seats, hope they kept some of that... like that 507, wish we still got Peugeots and Citroens here , been a long time. My old '83 504 Diesel wagon was slow but had a nice ride and got great mileage!

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 01:55:10 PM »

I'm installing the hardwood floors in the house so the wife and daughter went to a hotel for the weekend. Needless to say, wife got bored and went to check out new cars. She sat in a Fiat 500 and absolutely hated it. She is 6 foot and said her Mini Cooper is so much nicer it isn't even a fair comparison. One of the cars she drove, some Ford, was so bad, she had the salesman drive it back to the lot. I miss the legroom in my TR4. Can't wait to get it reassembled.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2013, 11:49:02 PM »

The 500 is indeed just a gimmick, ride is crap, no interior space, and if you have the automatic, well, the tranny is not good either  but somehow it sells 
@ Roger: French cars did not change much, way better seats and ride than german cars. And nowadays diesel technology is lightyears ahead of 30 years ago.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2013, 04:39:53 AM »

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I'm installing the hardwood floors in the house so the wife and daughter went to a hotel for the weekend. Needless to say, wife got bored and went to check out new cars. She sat in a Fiat 500 and absolutely hated it. She is 6 foot and said her Mini Cooper is so much nicer it isn't even a fair comparison. One of the cars she drove, some Ford, was so bad, she had the salesman drive it back to the lot. I miss the legroom in my TR4. Can't wait to get it reassembled.

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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2013, 07:56:31 AM »

Yeah, but it corners like it is on rails, literally, and this time it will have a ported, balanced, 2.5, dual Weber side drafted carb'd and a 5speed behind it, so reliability will go way up.
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2013, 06:53:03 AM »

They do go around the corners well, but f it's anything like the TR-4a or TR-250 or 3 Spitfires I had, reliability has only one way to go ... up! The Spitfire bodies actually seemed much tighter than the TRs, those things would rattle your fillings out!

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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2013, 07:09:41 AM »

Oh, yeah, she rattled. I figured out how to drive the TR4 to keep her reliable. Remember, these cars were built on a large island country and were designed to drive the piss out of it from one pub to another, thus, drive her hard for less than an hour, sit in a pub for an hour, then continue to the next pub. I put 12,000 miles on the car before it was sold and I got her back with a blown head gasket, so my update includes engine and transmission change, the rest is body off frame restoration. The only rust I found was behind the bottom edge of the left fender, an easy repair and hidden, so good sheetmetal to start with, straight frame.
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« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2013, 12:03:28 PM »

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Remember, these cars were built on a large island country and were designed to drive the piss out of it from one pub to another, thus, drive her hard for less than an hour, sit in a pub for an hour, then continue to the next pub.
Looking at the electrics on some english cars, I bet they designed the wiring in the pub as well  of course with some help from Lucas, the prince of darkness 

Have to admit I do like some of those quirky britcars, usually the saloons.




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« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2013, 01:49:49 PM »

Yeah, when I dismantled the car to restore, had the car body tipped on its side and washing the bottom of dirt (to the original black paint, not rust, by the way), I then found out I was going to have to transfer to Japan for a year. The whole wiring harness is inside a shoebox, and it only contains one fuse, so yeah, not a lot of money wasted on cloth covered copper to say the least. When I finally got my garage built, the stripped body was put on its side and slid into the back of my Dakota to move it to the garage.
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