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firedome

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« on: October 02, 2013, 05:54:39 AM »

Am pulling the tired 318 Poly in my '64 Dodge to replace it with one with only 43k miles from another '64 Dodge that runs and sounds like a new engine...  would it be easier to take it out with or without the T-Flite attached? If with it, how do the various cables for the push button selectors and parking cable detach from it? The FSM is a bit vague there...   any general suggestions? 

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 06:44:16 AM »

Leave the trans

Do the front seal on the trans too.  Dump the converter out for some fresh fluid
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 11:09:54 AM »

Steve, are you suggesting he pull it with the transmission or without?  If the latter, he's asking how do the cables get disconnected?

As for me, I do not know, sorry; can't help.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 11:50:05 AM »

I say leave the transmission if it is working good and be done with it. Agree, pulling the torque converter after the fact and replacing the front transmission seal is an excellent idea. There should be a quarter inch plug on the torque converter cover, just rotate the converter and pull the plug, makes a cleaner transfer.  Given the front seals can dump all the fluid on a functioning transmission in a matter of two minutes, a leaking seal can drip for months and let go in a second. Given the trans or engine has to be pulled to change the seal, do it with the engine out to begin with and it will be good for decades. Also, before you disconnect the flex plate from the torque converter, mark one of the four bolt locations with paint or something to speed up the connection of the bolt pattern, you can be off in 3 of the four mounting points, but as a side note, if not done, if two of the bolts line up, the rest will line up every time, just a pain getting those two lined up properly because you have to rotate the engine before the second bolt can be installed and it can get real slow.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 11:51:26 AM »

Oh, and if you lift the engine and trans prior to pulling the bellhousing bolts, block the transmission at that height, then pull the engine, it will help line up faster.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 05:54:55 AM »

Well we got antsy and went ahead and got all the cables off the trans, not too bad, the parking cables were fairly easy, the PB cable's spring release was a bit tricky hard to see, but got  it out, the driveshaft disconnected & tied up, the support member out, so today motor mounts and pull it all out.  I'm told the harder part is getting the PB cables re-adjusted after the install... will find out, I guess. The new drivetrain only has 43k and everything functions well, so will leave it all intact for now. "If it ain't broke" &c...

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 10:42:40 AM »

That may have been a mistake, but OK
Adjusting the shifter is a PITA.  
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 11:06:56 AM »

It's all out and sitting on the floor, clearance was no problem...  now waiting for the "new" eng/trans to arrive. This weekend I hope.  We heard it run and it sounded sweet... traded a Weiand Hi Rise manifold for it, good deal for me since I wasn't going to use the aluminum manifold anyhow.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 12:42:17 PM »

Now you can spend all the time before it arrives getting in there with solvent and degreaser to clean stuff up, haha.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 05:13:37 AM »

Actually the eng compartment is pretty clean, this thing wasn't much of  a leaker.  And very rust free, including the cowl, which weirdly was a real problem on '62-62+ B bodies for some reason. 

The "new" engine is here... cleaning up the "old" trans to stick on there, will replace seal first. I did mark that bolt with paint, excellent suggestion Dana.  When it's all together I'll paint the engine with a new coat of Mopar Engine Red after a good pressure wash. Need to order seal and gaskets today from Harco (local place)... I like NAPA but not the one here, the mgr always has a pissy attitude.

Been doing little stuff on the '58 Windsor as well, had gas tank boiled out then I recoated outside with Galvanizing paint... need to get a new sender before I can re-install.  I'm hoping I can afford to do the rear fender/1/4/fin transplant this fall,I got a good one from Gary Grossich in CA this summer and it came a few weeks ago, just need to sell a vintage DEC PDP computer I have first to pay for the body guy, it  will be a tricky fit but he's excellent.

Will try to get some pics of car projects.


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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2013, 12:13:01 PM »

old 318 + 727 trans


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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2013, 12:14:25 PM »

New poly 318:


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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 12:22:06 PM »

Looking good!
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 03:48:03 AM »

BTW I've found that the mover's dollies that Harbour Freight sells (on sale) for $7.99 make excellent engine + tranny roller stands!

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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 05:22:56 AM »

Absolutely. I bought a couple of them last year and they are great for moving engines, oil pan fits right in the hole in the middle and they roll around fairly well.
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