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« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2013, 12:34:56 PM »



You can solar desalinate
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« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2013, 04:27:52 PM »

Yes, and volume will keep you alive in a survival setting. Other than that, great for water when it is bright light and sunny, not so good in the dark or cloudy days, so limited on its operating capacity/volume.
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« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2013, 04:28:01 PM »


Quote from: POLARACO

VW is always over engineered like all the other european cars.  So I can see why it would be so expensive. 
VW is not overengineered, especially not the current entry-level cars like the up and polo. But the midrange-cars (golf/passat/....) are nowadays unreliable, on top of the usual lack of comfort and boring interior en exterior. Besides, the differnce between us- and euro-cars is getting smaller and smaller. There's the  GM-twincars (Volt/Ampera, Regal/Insignia), various Ford-cars sold both here and in US, Chrysler/Lancia and Alfa Romeo/Dart twins, etc.

Rentals (normal euro midrange-cars) I had on recent holidays in Spain and Romania easily did 50mpg, when us-cars doing 30-something are considered economical, could be food for thought as well.

Here's an old joke I heard on the comparison of technological advance at Toyota and Ford:
In 1965, Toyota had a 2 litre 8 valve 4-banger doing 90hp, in 1990 Toyota had an OHC 2-litre 16-valve 4-banger doing 175hp. In 1965, Ford had an entry-level 5-litre pushrod V8 with 150hp. In 1990, Ford had an entry-level 5-litre pushrod-V8 doing 150hp. (don't pin me on the numbers but this is a bit of a common perception on US-cars, although in recent years a lot of progress has been made)

Of course, examples like this 2011/12 Grand Cherokee tested in Sweden doesn't help to improve this perception:

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http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest-part4/

As for propane, its not really a serious long-term candidate for the fuel of the future, as it is a by-product of the oil-industry. Of course, running a car on propane has a lot of advantages, all my cars run on it, especially the old US bigblocks do very well on propane. (I dont care that much about economy )

CNG has other factors that make it less suitable for passenger cars: the tank is much larger than a propane-tank giving the same range. Over here, its mainly used on delivery trucks for urban distribution, garabagetrucks, and on citybusses, but rarely on cars. Besides, the 50 years of extraction of natural gas has lead to some unexpected safety-issues (small earthquakes) in parts of the country.

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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2013, 02:02:42 PM »



Your point is well taken though
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« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2013, 10:33:38 PM »



There's some additions on brakesystems in Europe nowadays, I think due to legislation. Not necessarily affecting braking distance itself, but allegedly making sure maximum brake pressure is applied in panic or emergency stops. I'm lucky I was never in a critical situation where these systems would be triggered. On the other hand, I was surprised that the 2007/8 PT 'vert rental (nice car overall!) I had in the US a few years back didn't even have ABS? (or it wasn't working properly)

What's important to note though, in recent years, both French and US-cars seem to make a big recovery. E.g. French manufacturers were the first to have 5-star euro-safety-rankings (even before safety-obsessed brands like Volvo, Saab, Mercedes), and US-cars have improved a lot in the reliability-rankings.

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« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2013, 06:48:59 AM »

The Dart is a great choice considering the amount of driving Elaine does.
Not to mention the cost of gas,and being a smaller car.
Now,Steve you have gained a few inches back in the driveway for more car schtuff,LOL!!
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« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2013, 03:21:08 PM »

Did you get a Dart Lea? I didn't know that, how do yo like it?

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« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2013, 07:24:16 AM »

No,no,no Steve bought a Dart-not me,LOL
I am done buying cars for a while--I still have one in my garage I need to finish after taking up residence 8 years ago.
 
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« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2013, 08:48:18 AM »



I didn't buy a Dart Lea.  We bought a Chrysler 200.  The Dart would be OK for me, but E didn't like it.  We fight over driving the 200 now
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« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2013, 05:28:42 PM »

Cool! Not everyone can say their new Chrysler improves or increases communications with a spouse!
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« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2013, 08:14:56 PM »



LOL   We laugh about it.  I think she is secretly liking the 200 more than the charger too
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