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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2012, 02:01:06 PM »


"2500-3000 ownership tax a year"... "keep that to yourself"



 VA and CT and some other states already levy a property tax on automobiles and boats, and have for a long time.


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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2012, 10:46:49 PM »


I have no objection in paying some taxes on a car, since the car uses the Dutch roadsystem, which is extremely well maintained, I've seen only a few places where the roads were better (Danmark and southern Sweden come to mind). However, the amounts charged nowadays are totally out of proportion, especially since fuel is not exactly cheap, also thanks to tax pressure...






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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2012, 03:40:44 AM »

From what I've seen the Dutch and Swedish roads are a lot better than NY!



I, too, like the Rolls and Bentleys of those eras, but would hate to try to maintain one.

And then I recall when, I think, it was "Autocar" in the UK, once
compared a Rolls to an Olds 98 and the Olds beat the Roller in
virtually every aspect: ride, power, performance, silence, space,
smoothness... everything except for interior and exterior materials and
finish. Oh well... can't win 'em all.



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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2012, 04:30:46 AM »


Yes, there's a general concensus, even within RR/Bentley, that other cars may beat them in some areas, but that as a total package, they are (intended) unbeatable. I cant tell as I never owned one (yet??), but the cars from before end-sixties seem extremely solid in engineering, and the materials and workmanship are in a different league than that of mass produced cars.
One thing that I miss on those cars is the excitement, something that Mopars trigger so well 
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 04:11:15 AM »

Well, after one week we have had 14 people vote and 12 people post. How we gonna get more to come back and participate? In all fairness, maybe some don't go to the BS and  Laughs section. There was at least one.


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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2012, 07:28:22 AM »

Well, it is pretty slow right now, so working on the projects isn't going on with a lot of us, or we have finally finished one and finding another is not as easy as it used to be, some of these new shows like Fast and Loud, the Jessie James and a few others, jacking prices up higher than what we are able to afford, so it is harder to find that project. Too many other events aren't helping, couple divorces (sadly), abandonments (really sorry), and not enough spare money here and there makes all of us tighten our belts and the fun stuff is the first thing to go.  I wish everyone out there the best of luck and it isn't even a new year yet, but it is hard for all of us.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 08:07:14 AM »


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Well, after one week we have had 14 people vote and 12 people post. How we gonna get more to come back and participate? In all fairness, maybe some don't go to the BS and  Laughs section. There was at least one.

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 10:36:54 AM »


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"2500-3000 ownership tax a year"... "keep that to yourself"



 VA and CT and some other states already levy a property tax on automobiles and boats, and have for a long time.



OK, but $2,500 to $3,000 a year?  That is ludicrous!
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 12:02:30 PM »

True... I wonder what valuation that 2,500 to 3000 would be based on? I
know in VA it averages around 5% of assessed value anually. $1000 a
year on a 20K vehicle seems outrageous enough.





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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2012, 10:18:51 PM »


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True... I wonder what valuation that 2,500 to 3000 would be based on?


The thieves from taxes use a tariff based on vehicle weight and fuel type. Vehicle value has nothing to do with it. For a second vehicle only driven occasionally, this is prohibitive for a lot of people here, and this may well decimate the classic car scene here. 
Cars older than 25 years were exempt from taxes, and thanks to this, a lot of people can afford a classic besides their daily beater. The problem is that a lot of people are importing old diesel Benzes from Germany for tax-evasion only and use those cars as daily drivers. And therefore the 25+-exception is being reviewed...
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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2012, 12:24:13 PM »

Thieves - HA!!  Sjak, don't hold back - how do you really feel???  
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2012, 04:17:10 AM »


The property tax guys, both real estate and personal property tax,  usually find a way to soak the ones who figure out a way to get around it.  Here it's based strictly on value, and THEY determine the value.

I wonder, are there any places that do not tax real estate property?
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2012, 08:04:28 AM »

For years they have been trying to get rid of a property tax law they passed several decades ago, where the state can only charge 1.4 percent of the property cost at sale, then only raise it 1.4 percent or less per year after that. With that in mind, my property taxes have taken almost 20 years to almost double from what I paid when I bought the place back in 1992. They still go up, but at least it isn't something like what happened up in Washington a couple decades ago. In a two year period, people that had retired around the canals up there had their property taxes go up so fast there were stories in newspapers where retired people were turning basements and garages into rentals to pay for the increases, double and triple what they were five years earlier.
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2012, 08:39:03 AM »


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I wonder, are there any places that do not tax real estate property?



Needless to say, older homes had very high prices while new/newer homes could be had for a song.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2012, 10:14:31 AM »


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