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Bob Schaefer

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« on: November 20, 2010, 08:41:45 AM »

I am planning to start some bodywork soon. On previous cars, I have done some decent surface work with fiberglass and bondo. Now that I am an adult(chronologically), I would like to do it right, with steel. I have a welder, and I have found some places where I should be able to get the sheet metal I'll need. I may hit a local boneyard or two, just in case I can pick up something decent, before I go to the trouble of building panels from scratch.
 
I need to take better pics, so I can try to document the project, but here is what I have to start with, which I found covered in poor fiberglass work. In reality, this is about as bad as it gets. There are a couple of spots, but this is the worst, so far....
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 08:43:06 AM »

Here is a close-up, with some slightly better focus.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 09:13:36 AM »

The best thing to do is get all that junk off the body to see what you really have first, that way you don't think something is solid and it just turns out to be a good cover-up. Sand or media blasting is one way to do it right, especially when removing make-up like this, blasting an extra six inches at least into solid metal helps keep the toxic paints and primers from burning when welding. Once cleaned, then cut the old stuff out as clean and as much one piece removal as possible  and treat the inside areas to prevent a repeat of what you have. At times it is necessary to replace supports inside, so after the skin is off, more blasting and cutting may be necessary, too.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2010, 09:40:22 AM »

This makes a great deal of sense, and I appreciate the advice, since that's what I need most. I also agree with the other post, about pulling body panels, and doing the suspension parts first.
 
The question I have is, how can cut all the old stuff out, and then faithfully re-create the portion that I have cut out?
 
My original thought was to re-create the bottom portion, where the fender attaches to the frame, which should just be a 90 degree bend, then tack on a sheet between that, and the clean metal above, keeping the right curve using the door and the wheel well. Then pull the fender off, and clean up the underside, and replace the supports as needed.
 
Seems  like a ton of extra work, but I'm new. If they were more readily available, I would try to get the whole fender from a wrecker, but then, it would probably have rust in the same place anyway.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2010, 01:58:38 PM »

That's been bondoed too many times.  It made matters worse.






 
Yes.  It is a fair amount of work.  I do more than that and have the tools to make those pieces.  But 2 pieces of 2 X 4 and a pair of C Clamps and you can make them.  As far as attaching it, you can use that new body cement they use on the new cars.  I am told that stuff is really tough.  Of Couse I am assuming you don't have allot of shop equipment.  Too bad you're in Chicago.  I could pop them out for you.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 08:08:15 AM »


Quote from: Commando1
http://www.moparhemi.com/Fender%20Repair%20Thumbnails%20Page.html


I've never seen that work you did before Stan...Well Done!!!

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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 09:19:30 AM »

That was a difficult piece to fab.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 09:34:50 AM »

Well, now this is why this kind of forum is so awesome. That work is incredible, and the pictures are exactly what I needed to see.
 
This will b very helpful when it comes time to get to work.
 
Thanks for the pictorial. Now I'm excited to get things going.
 
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 09:42:28 AM »



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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 01:12:51 PM »

He neglected to tell you it all fell off a week later
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 02:36:08 PM »


Quote from: POLARACO
He neglected to tell you it all fell off a week later

That would be my luck.. LOL

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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 02:44:15 PM »

Am I mistaken or are those pictures of the front fender? As bad as they look you'd be better off replacing them. That way you can concentrate on patching quarters which aren't so easy to replace.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2010, 03:03:05 PM »

Not much sense in patching front fenders....

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2010, 03:16:00 PM »

I didn't take it that way. . . I thought Stan was giving an example of HOW it's done.  But yes, a good set of front fenders is the best way.  But they are getting harder and harder to find too.
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