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Leaburn Patey

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 01:22:14 PM »

Yer gonna have to sell lotsa pizza to do it!!! LOL!!

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 01:36:22 PM »

LOL.. I'm finally working again.. ( I still need to settle up with you on those 300 parts)




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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2010, 05:40:25 PM »

No you don't.
The deal was pizza and water to get back on the road.
Done!
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2010, 06:28:46 PM »

OK, just to get some seriousness into this build, what are you doing about intake, injection or carb, exhaust, cam, pistons, and the likes?
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2010, 12:57:51 PM »

Seriousness?

I'm allowed 430 lift any duration.. so I will look for the cam that best meets that standard. I'm allowed any computer, the intake must be stock, the heads must be 47cc.. I'm still finding out the specifics on the deck height as the NHRA blueprint didn't have that. The throttle body must be stock.

They haven't listed a replacement piston on the site.. but i met another person who runs SS with a Neon so he has the spec on the replacement piston.

I can run any header, I can only run outer springs, the head can not be ported but the valves can have a 3 angle job and back cut.

I will use the Howell valve body for the tranny.. and see what i can do about a coverter.. I will be using the Howell side gear.



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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2010, 02:42:52 PM »

The 18.49 factor put it in the middle of CF/S ( full of turbo dodges..grrrrrrr)... I can weigh up to DF/S or down to BF/S...

I might have to weigh up in the beginning so I can make the index..


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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2010, 03:23:33 PM »

  See if you can find an aluminum intake, they flow a little better, just match the TB to the intake.dana442010-08-23 20:24:20
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2010, 03:44:17 PM »


I have to run a stock style piston. NHRA calls for a 1 cc slot in the piston.

I in between running the Crane Cam CHR-262-2SR-8 or CHR-250-2SR-8.  The small cam makes more torque around 3000 rpm according to Desktop Dyno, but the larger cam makes great power up to 7000..

The problem is that they don't make a side gear that can gear me up to be running near 7000 through the traps..

If I'm not mistaken the aluminum intake had a different part number from the plastic one...

Here is a screen shot form the NHRA page











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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2010, 05:59:10 PM »

I would go with the first cam, it does max out the top end and is still way below the max lift you can have. Kind of restricted with the pistons, but, what about decking the block to get the pistons closer to the top to get the compression up to the 10.5 max?
 
If the ratio of the side gears can't be swapped with a manual transmission side gears, then go with a smaller diameter tire and the 3000stall converter. If that doesn't work, there is always the keeping her in second gear. A taller tire and 3000stall may be the best way to do it. Besides, you could take her all the way to 7500rpm if necessary. The roller cam can handle it, only limitation is the outer valve springs.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2010, 06:15:59 AM »

NHRA mandates the deck height so I will find out what that is and deck it to that number. The CC of the chamber is the absolute minimum allowable.

The car I used to run years ago was a V6 Delta 88 and would run it out the backdoor in second gear at about 6500 rpm...

I would like to use all three.



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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2010, 09:11:03 AM »

If you want to use all three you have to have smaller tires if the side gears can't be had, being the 3.89s. I just don't know if the two gear sets can be swapped from the manuals and the automatic transmissions. Still, hitting 7000rpm is going to be a near impossibility until you hit 150mph, but second gear would probably hit 7000rpm at 120ish mph. Find some 13inch rims and raise the struts in the front so you don't bottom out. Not much else you can do.
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2010, 09:12:35 AM »

that is very true... and only one shift to worry about

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