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steve sclafani

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« on: June 14, 2010, 11:33:46 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fQd858cRc&playnext_from=TL&videos=cWNozAevym8&feature=sub
This recently appeared on You Tube.



I don't think it need any Explaination.
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 01:50:58 PM »

I get nervous when people post political comments in car forums.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 03:40:04 PM »

I already viewed it. . . . .  I'm watching it real close
 
Hey Fugly. . .  The rules say no political discussions, but this isn't really debatable.  But if it comes to that. . . . .
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 09:15:48 PM »

GOD BLESS, and he has my vote if I could give it. Anyone willing to point out this information, lost in history like so many other things, he must be a real, true PATRIOT and AMERICAN.
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2010, 04:48:36 AM »


I agree with Stan.








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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 07:06:03 AM »

Quote from: Commando1
I get nervous when people post political comments in car forums.
 
I don't...not one little bit. May God bless this marine who spoke up...and sung this ignorred verse of the star spangled banner. Getting nervous and staying silent is exactly what has happened to the majority of this country while the liberal minority takes over. Let's stand up and fight like our forefathers did! Amen!
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2010, 07:13:33 AM »

I agree Bob. . . Don't take me wrong. . .   You have to look at it from a moderators point of view.  I don't know anyone here that is anti American.  But this could escalate.  That's why I am keeping an eye on it.  Stan and I agree with you.  Hands down.  But we have to keep a weary eye out for trouble. 
 
Open forums are a breeding ground.  Because we run a tight ship here, we seem to have deterred all the trouble makers. 
 
We have to keep an eye on that guy in California though. . .Snotty      
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2010, 10:26:05 AM »

Yeah...I can understand this Steve. Alot of this......can start if you don't watch out. Oh...and that Snotty...Yeah...gotta keep a short leash on that rebel huh?
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2010, 12:13:21 PM »

stand by "while the liberal minority takes over"?

Too late, Steve:  your fear was well founded Stan: implicitly expressing disdain for
anyone with political or religious views, ie: "liberal" etc,  that may be  different from what
the writer has unilaterally decided are the One and Only Truth, be it political or religious, is hard to see as anything
but inflammatory; in fact it sounds mighty like the Taliban to me... funny how the
fringe, be they Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Christian, Atheist, whatever,
are so sure that only they have the True Path to Truth. Threads such as
this, as Stan foresaw, merely stir them up. The knee-jerk black/white
divisive thinking so prevalent now will be the downfall of this
country, as civility seems no longer to matter.  Funny, the
Christianity that I was raised in taught us to "love thy neighbor", and
to help those less fortunate, considered veritable creeping socialist
ideology these days.  Guess all that is out of fashion, or at
least not politically viable as fodder for those who wish to exploit
it,  for now it is all about Hate the Other, whoever is expedient
to the desired political end.  Once upon a time "liberals",
"moderates" and "conservatives" could differ on principle but still do
so with respect. Reactionary talk-show hosts, who will freely admit
they are after listener numbers in order to increase their own wealth,
as one has even said in public,  have made it OK for 
corrosive and incendiary speech and emotion to enter politics in ways
unheard of 20-30 years ago, allowing for simplistic villification of
their opponents in a way that makes any kind of civil disscussion
almost impossible, to the detriment of the constructive political
process, and essentially tearing the country apart for political ends.
Few people are automatons, they might even consider themselves
conservative on some issues, moderate, or liberal on others, even. A
"moderate" centrist, I used to be a republican until it was taken over
by the hate spewing bigots and fascists that seem to have an inordinate
influence on it today. However, now that the Commies are no longer
available as a viable threat to our internal security and useful as
conveniently handy whipping boys, the term "liberal" has been corrupted
by the ultra-right in order to cast them as the bogeymen and scapegoats
that they always seem to need to stay in power, see "McCarthyism" and
"Nixon". God forbid, the Sermon on the Mount might even be taken as an
implicit endorsement of socialism these days.  I, for one, am
tired of  folks too lazy to argue issues on facts or on their
intellectual merits and who instead merely resort to name-calling,
labelling, and cliches,  all of which should be done in the appropriate forums....

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 12:31:31 PM »

Firedome: you questioning my patriosm and my respect for democracy?  Or did I read this wrong??? POLARACO2010-06-16 17:54:15

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2010, 12:40:49 PM »

 Stan, that's the non sequitur of the day, or maybe the century. Nothing to do with you.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2010, 01:04:56 PM »

  I am sorry to say, I had to step in here.
 
Rog
This is what I was trying to avoid.  Your statement was accepted and understood.  I don't think you meant anything towards Stan, I think it was a general statement.  But we have not been allowing this for a long time.
 
Granted, we are all on the same page.  And I admit I am not a liberal by any means, so I don't take anything from this.  Stan, I think you misunderstood what roger was saying.  He wasn't pointing at you, he was agreeing with you!
 
OK  We need a group hug. . . .   
 
For the benefit of the family, I am lockig the thread.  Sorry Boys.
 
It is very hard not to be a bad guy.
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