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Stan Paralikis

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« on: May 29, 2010, 02:38:28 AM »

I have a chance to pick up for chump change a Borg Warner T10 4 speed (aka a Muncie M-20, 21).  We know tt is absolutely without a doubt that. 
Here's the problem:
10 spline input, 26 spline out, Mopar  mount!!!!
AS they say in Peoria: WTF is up with that?????
I know Ma used a Borg Warner as a 1963 only 4 speed but the input spline and lack of a tranny mount has got me very confused. Also, the 63 mopar B/W used a Ball & trunion.   Every ID chart I can find does not show this combo.
 

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 07:01:09 AM »

Fleet maybe with a spec?
 
It would have to be a ball and trunion if it were a car, but not sure on the trucks.  Maybe that's a truck trans.  They did some different mounting on the bell housings and let the trans hang as I recall.  See if you can fine information on a 300 series truck of that era.  I forget what my 58 had.  That was a three speed.
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 08:11:30 AM »

What about the splines on the main shaft?

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 02:30:57 PM »

What about them?
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 02:21:22 AM »

This B/W is a 10 spline input.  Can I swap the mainshaft with a Chrysler one?

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 06:31:38 AM »

Why not just match a disc to it
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 11:47:37 AM »

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Why not just match a disc to it
Once again, as I have said to you over the years:
 
WTH are you talking about?
 
What ^&%$ "disc" to "what" ?
 

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 04:26:14 PM »





The clutch disk is a different spline.  You said 10 and the slip yoke is 26.




 
 
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 08:00:39 PM »

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This B/W is a 10 spline input.  Can I swap the mainshaft with a Chrysler one?

To do this you would be best to check the specs of both shafts and compare, length, spline lengths, bearing size, all these specs can be found if you look around, mostly because there were changes over the years and they do list the different dimensions quite often. Otherwise, yeah, the clutch disc itself, but you still need to verify the length of the shaft sticking out to make sure the bellhousing is or is not as deep as something like Ford, GM BOP, etc. Would really hate sticking it in there and find out you only have a quarter of an inch sticking into the pilot bearing at the end of the crank or something like that, right?
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 02:51:22 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 02:53:33 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 06:31:27 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 09:20:01 AM »

By looking at the linkage mount, that trans has been altered to fit another car.  That's probably why you can't find any references to it.
 
Trucks in the early to mid-60's used B&T units, but they never used BW T-10s, so this is not from a truck.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 12:06:06 PM »

Yup.  I knew the Mack intercity cabovers had 413's.  A lot of other manufacturerrs, too. 
Although, not T10's, there's got to be  a gazillion "Mopar BB " to  "gawd knows how many super heavy duty transmissions" bellhousings floating around. 
Jeeeze, if I could corner the market in that! 
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 05:51:11 AM »

I think it's for an AMC. I had one that came out of a 71 Hornet S/C 360 that I believe had a 10 spline input shaft.

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