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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 04:12:49 AM »

I was well aware that they did extra reinforcement in the verts, but
it's interesting to see actual photographic evidence of just how they
accomplished it.  That rear seat brace may look identical but be
heavier gauge, for example. My dad sold Bethlehem Steel to all the auto
makers, and spec-ed it out according to engineering requirements, he
was an ME. I
wish he were here to tell me specifics. He did tell me once that Mopar
was the last of the Big 3 to go to thinner gauge body panels, around
the early 1980s. The altered alloy "high strength" steel was more
brittle and harder to form in dies, along with a thinner section and
less energy absorbtion, which had to be increasingly engineered into
the structural shape to make up for mass and tensile and ductility
qualities.


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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2010, 05:09:25 AM »

I'm not looking at anymore of those pictures.  Every time I do I feel like I need a shower and a tetinus shot...

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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 08:10:24 AM »

Steve,there may be a few Dockers looking for sheetmetal,FYI.
 
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 08:58:45 AM »

Well I have 1 LF Fender, 2 doors, one with glass, 1 LR rear quarter available
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2010, 09:08:59 AM »

D Cluley   Steve,  Is the trunk floor welded to this crossmember or just to the frame rails on either side?




 
No.  If you are talking about the cross member over the axle, It is not 

 

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It's better to leave out the plugs if you have leaks . . .
 
I actually used some sheet metal and seam sealer to dam off that corner by the wheelwell, and added a ¼” drain hole.  This keeps any water that gets in from running forward and getting the carpet wet.
 
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Interesting pics. Are there heavier sections or additional stiffeners in that vert not found on closed cars?
 
There seems to be an extra reinforcement inside the rockers.  (I’ve not cut mine open to verify this ;) )
 

 
 
D Cluley  The convertibles have the torque box bracing under the front spring mount.
 
There are spring loaded wedges on the door jamb that are supposed to help maintain the proper gap between the door and the body.
 
There is an extra brace from the rear wheelhousing up to the underside of the body next to the trunk hinge.
 
All Correct.  The piece in the rocker is 1/4" Thick!  A real bear to cut through.



 

The brace across the back of the rear seat is different, but I don’t think it is really any stronger.
 
The Torque box is added to a standard torque box and over laps all the welded connections as well as having a few of its own to the rocker.  Even at that, this car was a bowl of Jello when I got it, but pretty tight when I finished.  However, rust was popping up in strange places like over the rear axle, the inside of the left rear wheel well where it joined the floor, the shaft hump in the back seat, that was after I finished the floor back there, a few spots showed up over the winter under the back seat. . . . I finally said "that's it!"  Grave yard.  But it is an excellent donor for the 68 as all of the stuff I potentially need is in perfect condition.  I'll bet I knocked another 50 pounds of mud out of this thing. 
 
Almost Plasma Cut a 30 Cal Round stuck in a corner too. 
 
This was excellent!  Now you can see the difference between a Vert and a coupe.  The 4 doors HT's may have a second layer in the rockers.  Not sure.
 
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2010, 10:20:41 AM »

From the Boab..
  

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 06:19:36 PM »

Hey Steve, do you want to sell that 68 inland shifter handle?

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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2010, 07:01:55 PM »

I want to sell the whole assembly Brian.  I would prefer not braking it up 
 
The reverse release is stuck, but I am soaking it.  The shifter is pitted.
 
I'm going to put the trans in the 68 behind a 360.  Planing on putting a Hurst in there.
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 04:33:10 AM »

I'd think any of the vert specific parts, trim, top frame, windshield header, etc would be fairly sought after.

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 06:13:01 AM »

Yeah  I have allot of that already
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 07:32:16 PM »


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I want to sell the whole assembly Brian.  I would prefer not braking it up 
 
The reverse release is stuck, but I am soaking it.  The shifter is pitted.
 

I don't need the mechanism...I'm going to run a hurst as well.  I plan on fabbing up an adapted so I can bolt the inland onto the hurst mechanism.

If you decided to break it up let me know.

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