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Stan Paralikis

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« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2010, 12:59:00 PM »

What can I say, boss. I'm not perfect....

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« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2010, 08:04:10 AM »

Well, here it is.  The world's first and only clutch & brake pedal assembly for 74 - 78 C-bodies. 
(I'm slow but methodical)
 

 

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« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2010, 08:09:44 AM »

Looks good!  Proud of ya son.
 
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« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2010, 08:21:59 AM »

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Looks good!  Proud of ya son.
 
I'm one step ahead of you, pops.
There was no room for it to attach to the firewall on the clutch side so what you you can't see is the 3/16" reinforcing plate on top.  You can stand on it and it won't flex.  Well, maybe you can't....

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« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2010, 08:57:00 AM »

I saw the plate on the top.  One step ahead of you.
 
How about a piece of flat stock going up and down, extending out to an open area and just contoured to the floor.  Or maybe you can weld a stud to the firewall.
 
Assuming, of coarse, the lack of room you are talking about, is on the outside.
 
I still think there will be a fair amount of leverage there.  I'm eyeballing the geometry and mentally calculating the forces involved.  Remember, your left foot is just as heavy as your right.  In your case, your left leg may be stronger after all those years of hitting truck clutches.  There's allot of leverage there.
 
I know, you shifted without a clutch like I did.  But there is still starting and stoping and backing up. . .   I put 800,K on my clutch before I sold the truck.  It was in there with 500 on it when I got it.  Nother story
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« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2010, 12:00:39 PM »

Actually you are right that there's a ton of force vectors being applied there.  And I know that.  When it comes time to do the actual installation, anything more that can be done will be done.  Basically, as far as the whole assembly, all the hard work is done.  Can't (and shouldn't) make any modifications until it meets the real world.  Then do what needs to be done.  NO shortcuts.  Don't forget, it all goes back to what I said in the beginning: real estate is at a super premium.



 
 
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« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2010, 02:54:05 PM »

Oh that's OK Stan
 
It's just nuts and bolds.
 
Or there is Crazy Glue
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« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2010, 07:21:47 PM »


WOW...Nice Job Stan!!

I know you say space is a premium, obviously I don't know these cars well, but as Steve says you need some type of bracing going from the outside edge of the clutch assembly to the firewall, or dash, or ???

Hope once things get to meet in the real world you'll be able to figure out what you need.



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« Reply #113 on: May 13, 2010, 03:52:34 AM »

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« Reply #114 on: May 13, 2010, 07:05:35 AM »

Brian. . .
 
I think he's planning on a cable clutch.  It's a good alternative and will be easy to construct.  He should be able to use his exiating z Bar and put the clutch push rod on that.
 
By the way Stan. . .The push rods are still available from the dealer.  I'll get you the part number in a day or so
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« Reply #115 on: May 13, 2010, 08:50:27 AM »

Personally, I am enjoying following this story so much.  Great job so far, Stan.

I hope you're documenting your steps w/ pics, video, and drawings.  You're a pioneer and you know what they say about pioneers - once one nut shows you can do something and survive, there's no shortage of nuts waiting to follow.

I imagine selling the rights to a story like this could fetch you a fee that runs into the tens or even TWENTIES of dollars. 


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« Reply #116 on: May 13, 2010, 10:33:43 AM »

OR....
this becomes one of those postings that show up when you do a Google search of "top 10 epic threads".
 
 
Quote from: POLARACO
I think he's planning on a cable clutch.  It's a good alternative and will be easy to construct.  He should be able to use his exiating z Bar and put the clutch push rod on that.
Absolutely no room for a Z-bar.  Run the cable right to the clutch pedal, Mustang style.
Connect it over center so that as you push in the clutch, you pull the cable toward you and it in turn pull out the clutch fork.
 
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« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2010, 12:49:49 PM »

There's no Z Bar in there now?  How do you shift the trans now?
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« Reply #118 on: May 13, 2010, 05:35:57 PM »

Yeah the cable clutch system is a great idea, but it should still have some bracing on that clutch pedal assembly, even if it's just a couple bolts with washers through the firewall.

But do you think the Auto "Z-bar" will take the stress of a clutch assembly?  Stan can make a Z-bar from almost any 4 speed set-up work.


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« Reply #119 on: May 13, 2010, 06:36:10 PM »

I think it might.  The stick shift ZBar isn't much better.  He could reinforce it.
 
My brother used to break his all the time.  I finally reinforced it by wraping a steal band over the top and down the arms a ways to stop it.  It never broke again.  Point is, he could do that too.
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