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Brian

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« Reply #780 on: January 21, 2015, 04:11:13 PM »

Yes I added the extra Ramcharger steering brace.  And put larger, and proper attaching hardware as well.

I did have one of the power steering box bolts come loose.  My guess is that another one is loose as well.  I'll pull it off to double check, and perhaps lock tight them in place this time if I find them loose.

Thing is though I have wedged my pry par in and around the steering box and it all seems tight and secure.

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« Reply #781 on: January 22, 2015, 01:38:16 PM »

Well I decided I would getting the front end to ride a bit smoother with the help of the thread below and user sevnt300 and his findings. Those "smooth ride" parabolic springs I installed during the 4wd conversion really did not smooth anything out in the ride....actually I think it made it stiffer. :(

Well Sevnt300 over in this thread...http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forums/1st-gen-ram-all-topics-93/front-suspension-upgrade-301721/page10/ ....Post #138.  He has a cummins long box crew as well with these springs was not happy with the ride either.  He did a lot of R&D work to finally come up with a ride he was comfortable with.

So first I had to pull apart an old set of rear springs and find two leafs that would be 34" long and allow an even 17" on each side of the center hole.  Think it was the 3rd leaf up from the bottom.

One side already had a hole for the spring clamp and was 17", the other required about 3" to be cut off.  Then I had to tapper the tip.



I then went down to the shop that sold me the Smooth Ride springs...they are local....and picked up some new wear tips and spring clamps.



The rubbers that came with the new spring clamps would not work with their style, so i used some neoprene sheet I had to cut out some new ones that would.



Then I had to drill three 1/2" holes in each spring.  One for the wear tip, and two for the new spring clamps to lock into.  I positioned the spring clamps 6" back from the wear tips.



Tossed on some paint and got ready to do the swap.
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« Reply #782 on: January 22, 2015, 01:47:16 PM »

Did the spring prep last week in teh evenings.  So decided since I had a couple days off I would tackle the swap today.  Took about 5 hours from start to finish.

First was to get the sway bar end links off, and the shocks as well.  Then remove the U-bolts.  Once all the was off I could start to jack up the truck to give me enough clearance to loosen the retaining bolt in the center of the spring pack and remove the lower spring.



Ready to remove lower spring.



Here is a comparison of the second spring in this smooth ride set-up, and the new one that is going in.



Of the 3 wear tips on the lower springs only one was still in place and secure.  The others had broken loose.




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« Reply #783 on: January 22, 2015, 01:55:24 PM »

Transferred the two plates from the original pack to the new spring and installed.  Required a couple clamps to compress the spring so I could get the threads started on the center bolt.  Then it was just snug everything up and make sure all the plates and springs stayed in alignment.



Then once both side were done I had to lower the truck back down and get everything to line up.  Had to go back and forth taking a few inches out of each side to slowly lower it back down.  Once the weight was on the springs I installed the spring clamps.  Then finished re-installing everything.  Only had to cut about 3/4" to 1" off the U-bolts to make up for the difference in spring pack thickness.

All done and ready to go.




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« Reply #784 on: January 22, 2015, 02:00:29 PM »

I measured from the ground to the top of the wheel well arch before I started, and after I was done, lost exactly 1.5" on each side.  And I can say the ride is like night and day!!  I used to cringe every time I ran over a manhole cover in the road....now it just absorbs the bump and you barely feel it.

I couldn't be happier with the ride so far.  Although I've only put a couple miles on it, but so far so good!
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« Reply #785 on: January 24, 2015, 04:27:19 PM »

Well today I decided to see where my "bang/Clunk" was coming from in the front end.  I was pretty sure it was the steering box, but had my neighbour crank the wheels back and forth while I watched and listened.  

Sure enough the box torqued in one direction, then when direction and torque was applied in the opposite direction I got a bang.  And you could see that the steering box had a lot of movement.

Pulled the battery, and IC tube on the DS and lifted up the splash guard.  Found one bolt half out and loose.  One other was just starting to loosen up.  So I removed the two I could remove, cleaned them up and blue loctited them in place.  The other two I backed out as for as I could, more blue loctite, and then tightened back up.

Cycled the steering again once everything was back together and all seems well. 

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« Reply #786 on: January 24, 2015, 06:50:21 PM »

Someone said steering box.  I'm surprised you have so many loose bolts though.  Too many Burger Kings?  LOL  I thought i was the one who forgot shtuff

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« Reply #787 on: February 08, 2015, 06:48:32 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
Someone said steering box.  I'm surprised you have so many loose bolts though.  Too many Burger Kings?  LOL  I thought i was the one who forgot shtuff

It was that brutally rough Ice Road trucking I did hauling my brother trucks up into the interior and back.  The roads were washboard for at least 200 miles!  Shook a lot of stuff loose on Ol' Patches.

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« Reply #788 on: February 08, 2015, 07:46:08 PM »

Good thing you're not an Ice Road trucker.  LOL
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« Reply #789 on: February 09, 2015, 06:18:55 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
Good thing you're not an Ice Road trucker.  LOL

If it was a company truck then I wouldn't care so much....


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« Reply #790 on: February 14, 2015, 05:25:16 PM »

Well i redid the rear brake hubs a few weeks ago, new bearings and seals, but yesterday on my first day off in about a week I noticed that there was gear oil on the ground by the passenger side rear tire....Doooh!

So today I tore into it to see how bad it was....





All that oil everywhere...that can't be good.




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« Reply #791 on: February 14, 2015, 05:29:25 PM »

Turns out I nicked the inner seal on the threads when installing it.  Gouged the seal and popped the spring loose as well.



And with all that oil everywhere the rear shoes were toast!



So off to the parts store for some new Wagner riveted 12x3 shoes, and SKF inner seals....Did not want to use the raybestos bonded units. ;)






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« Reply #792 on: February 14, 2015, 05:34:43 PM »

Lots of cleaning to get that gear oil off everything.  But finally got everything clean up and start re-assembly.  This time I used some black electrical tape over the threads to smooth things out just in case I get weak and wobbly trying to lift that drum and hub into place. ;)



So it turned into an expensive day.  Amazing what a small nick in a seal can end up costing you....a big chunk of change, and half a day. ;)
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« Reply #793 on: February 14, 2015, 06:45:28 PM »

Good job. Yeah, mistakes get made, at least you didn't have hard parts that got destroyed before you realized something was amiss.
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« Reply #794 on: February 14, 2015, 07:03:33 PM »

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Good job. Yeah, mistakes get made, at least you didn't have hard parts that got destroyed before you realized something was amiss.

Yeah it wasn't too bad....lost about 1/2 liter of fluid though!   And I learned a little trick to help make sure the seal never gets wrecked again.

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