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« Reply #720 on: October 24, 2014, 12:25:44 PM »

That's what I thought!  At least it's close to home.

What are we doing about your turbo?
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« Reply #721 on: October 24, 2014, 07:22:34 PM »

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That's what I thought!  At least it's close to home.


As of right now nothing.  I am saving up for a "NEW" HX35 unit.  But in the mean time a local 1st Gen'er says I could use his spare H1C with a 14cm housing.  He ran it for about 10K Km's before upgrading again to a HE351CW.   So I will see where that goes.

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68 Chrysler Station Wagon 440/auto
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« Reply #722 on: October 24, 2014, 07:22:54 PM »

Just got back from picking up the truck...very happy with everything!  He told me both diffs were in good shape, someone relatively competent had been in there at some point.   Power loc only needed new clutches, and the front diff didn't even need new bearings.   

Re-geared to 3.54's, I had an OEM ring and pinion I had picked up super cheap.  I went to a old fellows house to pick up a compressor and when he saw my crewcab we got to talking.  Turned out he had recently sold his 92 reg cab dually and had some leftover pieces.  I got a mint, but terribly bent one ton tailgate, Dana 70 3.54 ring and pinion, repair manual and some other stuff for $125!

Anyway he only had to replace the front gear set, with a mint OEM set.  And he couldn't say enough about how clean and easy my stuff was to work on...such a change to what he usually has to deal with.

All in all a very fine experience!  I would highly recommend him to anyone in the area!

If anyone is interested this is his business....

 https:/www.facebook.com/DifferentialSolutions

or the Physical addy is...

33149 London Ave #16, Mission, BC V2V 4P9
Phone - (604) 723-8250
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68 Chrysler Station Wagon 440/auto
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« Reply #723 on: October 24, 2014, 08:19:08 PM »

I put a 351 in my truck.  It wasn't much of an upgrade physically, but is more responsive.  I think it was 9 MM bigger.  If there is a lag, you can't feel it.  Thing runs like a gasser.  
You did some mighty fine work there.  When you do stuff like this, something is bound to happen.  It can't be avoided.
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« Reply #724 on: October 24, 2014, 09:37:27 PM »

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3.  It rains allot there  
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« Reply #725 on: October 25, 2014, 07:04:45 AM »

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Thanks for the kind words Steve...Now I will go towel off from the rain. 

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« Reply #726 on: October 25, 2014, 12:01:02 PM »

Just got back from a drive with a GPS unit to confirm my current speedo reading, to my actual speed, now that the gearing has been changed.

I first removed the ratio adapter that was in there.  It was a 1.04 unit, which was a 4% increase in signal speed for the 4.10's.  I then re-installed the VSS straight off the transfer case.

I had read that after you do this you go for a drive, then drive 50mph (80kph) and check your speed.  Mine was 67kph. Then divide your speedo reading into the 80kph and it gives me 1.194.  So I need a ratio adapter with approx a 1.2 over drive ratio, or 20% increase in signal speed for my speedo to be accurate.

I'm going to the wreckers in a bit to see if I can find anything. ;)
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« Reply #727 on: November 05, 2014, 05:19:08 PM »

Well yesterday I received my ratio adapter for my speedo.  I figured out that I needed a +20% VSS signal to get my speedo to read right.

I went with PATC.  Very happy with their service and product.

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm

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Original and new unit....



And the ratio on the OEM unit.  The 1.04 equals a +4% VSS signal.



And the new ratio at 1.20.  So +20% VSS signal.




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« Reply #728 on: November 05, 2014, 05:24:00 PM »

The ratio adapter from PATC must be a generic piece to service more then one application.  SO it came with a small adapter kit as well.

I needed the square head for the transfer case side...





And the VSS side I needed the plastic insert so it would except the VSS square drive shaft.  You can see it in the back ground.



And installed and ready to go.




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« Reply #729 on: November 05, 2014, 05:28:37 PM »

Today was the old car shuffle.  Move my wagon into storage....



And bring home my Desoto...




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« Reply #730 on: November 05, 2014, 05:45:48 PM »

After seeing the pic of the new adapter installed, I now know how one would get a modern electric speedo to work off an old style trans.  I'll be damned.  I see the sensor looks like it's just a hall sensor and a tone wheel that's turned by the speedo drive gear!
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« Reply #731 on: November 05, 2014, 06:49:13 PM »

Not quite sure what you are saying Dave.  Brian installed a mini gear box on to the electric sensor.  That signal generator ran the transmission in later years as well as the speedo.  Polaraco has one too
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« Reply #732 on: November 06, 2014, 05:41:40 PM »

Today I finally decided to get off my duff and make a spacer for my throttle pedal.  When I installed the new carpet I added extra sound deadening and insulation, and the skinny pedal has never had full travel.

So I dug out some hard fiberglass pieces I had laying around. Scraps form my neighbour who's a commercial fiberglass guy. The pieces I used was about 7/16" thick.  Used a spare pedal assembly to mark off the piece I needed.  Little cutting and drilling got me this.





Needed a little fine tuning to clear the firewall insulation. Then I cut a piece of neoprene foam gasket material and applied it to the firewall side to help seal out the elements.



Once that was done I moved the ball on the IP arm to the inner hole, and then re-adjusted the throttle assemblies.  Much better now...have full throttle and barely have to press the pedal to make it go.

I also decided to spin my fuel pin to the deep side while I was right there.  Went for a quick drive around the block and it seemed to have a little more grunt.  Probably the combo of full throttle travel, and the extra fuel being supplied to the motor.


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« Reply #733 on: November 08, 2014, 02:48:43 PM »

Yesterday I installed the aluminum upper wheel opening mouldings from the 84 side trim.  I have been debating if I should run the 91-93 big black wheel opening flares.  But after my last junk yard run and seeing the dodge rams and dakota with front and rear wheel rot due to these types of flairs, I couldn't justify putting them back on.  Especially since this is my daily drivers.

I also installed my aluminum mud flaps.  And today I gave Ol' Patch's a bath and some fixes hear and there, mostly where water was leaking in, and some surface rust had started.






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« Reply #734 on: November 08, 2014, 03:04:52 PM »

Any more on the Line-x?
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