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« Reply #420 on: November 01, 2013, 08:54:12 AM »

I meant axles
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« Reply #421 on: November 01, 2013, 11:51:48 AM »

Yup 2wd or 4wd they all come with tapered bearings.

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« Reply #422 on: November 01, 2013, 12:34:36 PM »


I've been going crazy trying to find the flange head nuts and bolts to secure the new brackets to the frame.



But Think I finally found a guy who really knows his stuff. I told him
what I was doing, and how I prefer to go over kill.  He told me that
Grade 8 bolts and nuts in this kind of application can actually be worse
 then using grade 5....since the grade 8 can crack and break due to
flex. So He's bringing me in matched nuts, bolts and washers that are
used in bridge building....so they will flex and still hold super
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« Reply #423 on: November 03, 2013, 07:19:20 PM »

After much advice from fellow board members...on other sites...

 I called and cancelled my ASTM nuts and bolts, and have ordered the 1/2"
 x 20 Grade 8 flange head bolts and Stover lock nuts from the McMaster-Carr
site...hope to have them by Wednesday at the latest.



I just was not feeling good about the Construction grade bolt, since they are technically a grade 5.

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« Reply #424 on: November 03, 2013, 07:19:43 PM »


I have had the clutch slave cylinder...what comes out of the
tranny...hanging down under the truck for a couple weeks now.  I noticed
 the other night a little fluid around the end.  Thought at first it
must be water...since it's been raining.  Gave it the quick tongue test
and it's brake fluid.



So I pulled the rod and grommet off and sure looks like it's leaking
around the cylinder.  Probably the front section of the bore that was
not traveled on was a bit rusty...then removing the tranny allowed the
piston to move up and over that rusty area....thus the leaking seal.



So can I reseal this myself?  Or should I just get a new one?  Also do I
 need one for a NV4500 or Getrag?  And I can replace just the leaking
slave cylinder assembly right?  They do come loose from the line?

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« Reply #425 on: November 03, 2013, 08:42:26 PM »

If the slave cylinder is the same as the Dakota and PT Cruiser, plastic or cast body,  the plastic tube going to the top back of the slave cylinder should have a cotter pin or roll pin in the side that comes out, then there is a little rubber washer, the tube just pushes against it and doesn't leak. Rebuildable, probably, but you will notice there is no bleeder for them. They are a little bit of a pain to bleed, takes time for air to move up the tube and out of the slave itself, so you prefill it, install it, then let the last air make its way out on its own, or pump it about half an hour really slow and tap the plastic line to make the bubbles rise slowly (air in molasses fast air bubbles). The slow pumping moves the bubbles up and down, so you have to do it slowly,  too fast doesn't do any good, and it is time consuming. Other solution is to buy a fully sealed complete unit of both pieces pre-filled with fluid.
 
I kind of have to also agree with the grade 8 bolts. The strength is the tensile strength in its tighness to make them hold, so the stretch strength to clamp is more important than its ability to flex. Heck, I would even go so far as to put a tiny one or two second tack bead on the thread/nut as a guarantee it won't have to ever be checked from coming loose.
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« Reply #426 on: November 04, 2013, 06:58:09 PM »


Thanks for all the great advice, I appreciate it!!

And now for more good news....

Well
 I got an E-mail from McMaster - Carr today stating that because I live
in Canada they will not send me the nuts and bolts I want.

Seems
that even though I was to have them shipped to my USA address, and then
bring them across the border myself...that this somehow violates all
kinds of international trade laws etc.  Since the final destination is
Canada.

They sent me a lot of info as to why they can not process
 my order, and I'm sure it's all legit...but come on Nuts and
Bolts??  If I was to purchase these items through a business within
Canada then they could accommodate my order.

So after a friggin week I still have no nuts or bolts to assemble my frame!!

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« Reply #427 on: November 04, 2013, 08:44:46 PM »

Why not just use the right sized bolts with heavy washers and locks?  I've don that before and never had any problems.


I agree with the Grade 5 though
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« Reply #428 on: November 04, 2013, 09:21:23 PM »

I could see that with China, but Canada?
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« Reply #429 on: November 05, 2013, 05:51:38 AM »

Have you tried these guys??  http://boltsupply.com/home.aspx




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« Reply #430 on: November 05, 2013, 07:44:25 AM »

Thanks for the link 300...I checked out there site and they do not have the fasteners I want.


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« Reply #431 on: November 05, 2013, 10:35:32 AM »

Well I hopefully have the right fasteners on there way!

I went across the border to my Local USA Napa.  The older woman who is an amazing parts person....was able to help me out.  She called her supplier...Fastenal in the US....and they had the stuff I needed in WA state.  Should be here tomorrow, Thursday at the latest.
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« Reply #432 on: November 06, 2013, 03:53:42 PM »


Nut and Bolt saga continues.....



So I open my E-mail this morning and there is a bill/receipt from
McMaster - Carr....WTF?  I look at it and it clearly states..."Canada Export - **DO NOT SHIP**"
  Then at the bottom there is a UPS tracking number.  So I check the
tracking...shipped the same day I received the E-mail stating that they
would not sell me the nuts and bolts, and was en-route to be delivered
to my US shipping address today...again WTF!!



I go back to the first E-mail I received from them, and called the guy
who sent it...no answer only voice mail.  Leave a long rambling message.
  Then I get on the phone to Visa...see if I can put a stop payment on
it...nope hasn't cleared yet.  Then I decided to go to the McMaster-Carr
 website and see if they have a customer service number.



I then call their Help line and explain everything that has been going
on.  And how I have already found bolts locally.  The guy said that they
 clearly F'd up and that they would refund me the cost of the nuts and
bolts.  I asked if they wanted them back...he told me to just keep them.



Now I needed to call Napa and tell them what has happened and that I now
 do not need the nuts and bolts they were bringing in for me.



So at the end of the day I finally have my nuts and bolts...at no cost
to me...and I can finally get the cross members and brackets in
tomorrow!!



What a friggin ordeal!!
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« Reply #433 on: November 06, 2013, 07:19:32 PM »

Well, under the circumstances, the hassle for the free bolts..... call it even. Go figure.
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« Reply #434 on: November 06, 2013, 07:56:04 PM »


Update in progress...

I made a couple templates and got the rear spring mount holes punched, and drilled. 




 Bought a decent 1 3/4" hoke say to make the big hole in the frame.  I
used tons of cutting fluid, and then only cut in 10-15 second intervals
before adding more cutting fluid.  Took a good 5 minutes or so to, each
side, to cut through the frame, but my hole saw still looks almost new.




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