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« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2010, 08:55:32 PM »

Well speedo is out by about 10mph, guess my speedo gear in the NV4500 is
 set for a 4.10, not a 3.54 rear.  SO that will throw off my MPG a bit,
but even cutting off 10% of my total mileage I'll still be around 600+
miles on my fill up in a day or two.



I have my new 235/85/16 BF Goodrich commercial T/A tires on, nice tires.
  I also got my new flex brake hoses installed today as well.



I've ordered all the pieces to retro my A/C system under the hood, and
I'm not using any of the original parts other then the compressor, and a
 new Expansion valve, other then that everything will be new or retro'd.



Found out my upper ball joints and inner tie rods are on the way out.
But the parts truck I had last year had new upper control arms in the
cab, new Moog BJ's and new bushings, so that costs me NADA...  I'm going to order new inner and
 out tie rods as well.  Might replace the lower BJ's since I'll have
everything apart anyway.



Need to find and original tranny cross member, since the C-channel they
used to make the mounts are a little lacking, there is only one bolt on
either side to hold the mount to the frame!  Wonder what would happen if
 I loaded the drive line up....

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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2010, 08:56:08 PM »

I've also picked up a front seat from a 94-98 2nd Gen dodge ram.  I
really like having the armrest and dual sliding seats, for his and her
comfort.











I'll have to redo the floor mount brackets and tracks to get it to sit
as low as possible, one of the draw backs to being 6'8"...  But should be able to knock that
 out in a day, with a little grunt help from my neighbor.




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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2010, 04:57:11 PM »

Well I've been continuing my work on RAE.  I installed the new power
steering box last week.  The old one was leaking from the input shaft,
and main steering shaft seals.







Much better not having the puddle under the truck every time I park.



But had to flush the system a whole bunch.  I grabbed some PS fluid I
had laying around and didn't bother to check it and just dumped it in.
Well it wasn't until i turned the truck on and started cycling to get
the air out I noticed a foul smell and lots of foam in the system.
Turns out the fluid was contaminated with water, smelled horrible and
was a murky orange color.  So up to the store and buy some fresh fluid,
then drain, cycle system, drain and repeat.  Still a little bit left in
the system but not bad.


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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2010, 04:58:54 PM »

Well I decided to change  the fluid and install a filter kit from
Geno's.



I got my Syntorq from, www.blumenthalmfg.com for 5 quarts it cost me $59,
not a bad price!!    Considering the local Chrysler dealer wants $30 a
quart!!



So I removed both PTO covers and did the complete clean out, wiped the
inside of the case, sides and bottom until it was as clean as I could
get it.  Then installed the filter kit on the pass. side and refilled
with the new syntorq.







I noticed it shifts a little smoother, and it doesn't grumble quite as
much.  But before I did this I noticed that it didn't grumble as much in
  the mornings when the fluid was cool, once it warmed up the grumbling
 became much worse.  So hopefully it will help, but at a minimum I at
least know have the peace of mind knowing the condition of the fluid in
 the tranny.



Another thing that I noticed when I pulled the PTO covers was that both
 the side covers had a fair amount of scratches and gouges on the
inside.   I think this tranny might have blown before.  So who knows how
 old the  tranny rebuild is but my input shaft cover seal is weeping a
bit.





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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2010, 06:37:29 AM »

Stick a magnet on the filter.
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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2010, 06:37:54 AM »

I have to measure that intercooler for you.  You still interested?
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2010, 07:55:08 AM »


Quote from: POLARACO
I have to measure that intercooler for you.  You still interested?

No I don't think it will work for me., but appreciate you keeping me in mind Steve.

I'm also working on doing a complete A/C retro fit, same set-up as I used on the wagon.   I plan on using an aftermarket universal intercooler so I can keep my current grille.

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« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2010, 11:09:31 AM »

Well got off work friday evening and went  to my truck, fired right up,
1/2 crank as always, and I let it idle for  a couple minutes but it
seemed to have a stumble, like a miss fire?



Put the truck in gear, and started to drive off but again it was
stumbling.  Got to the exit and it stummbled hard and died.  I tried to
 fire it up again and it fired briefely and died again almost
immediately.



I pushed it back out of the way and popped the hood.  The "New" lift
pump I installed a few weeks back was leaking.  I tried to prime the
system but the pump wouldn't draw any fuel.  I had the wife bring down
the old one I removed, it leaked but would still prime.  So installed
the old lift pump and primed the system, then tried to fire it again,
nothing.  Cranked it a bit, still nothing.  So had to get a hook to drag
  old RAE home.



My injection pump has been leaking from all over the place, was going to
  order a reseal kit and reseal it.



I worked on it yesterday, and, Well it's running again....for now at
least.



I decided to crack the injectors, don't think they had been loosened
since it left the factory.  I only had fuel at #1, #4, and #6, #2 was
bone dry, and the others only had a trace of fuel in the injector head.
  Cranked it and started getting fuel squirting out at all the
injectors,  tightened them down and then fired it up.



It ran rough for the first minute or so, I brought the RPM's up, lots of
  smoke, white in color, then it slowly cleared up.  Seems to be OK for
 now, but I think I will transfer the plates to my 87 ram gasser unit
until I  can get a piston pump, and rebuild the injection pump.  Don't
feel like  any more tow bills....

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« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2010, 11:10:15 AM »

Since it's off the road for a couple weeks I've decided to fix a few
more things as well.  I adjusted my valves last night, and picked up
some new valve cover gaskets, remember cummins have 6...  Also going to install new upper
control arm bushings and ball joints, new inner and outer tie rods as
well.  And try and finish up my A/C retrofit.


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« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2010, 03:51:34 PM »

Try using an Air Dog.   You can eliminate the factory filter if you want.
 
Those Bosch pumps are nutorious for leaking.
 
If those cylinders were dry, I'd ne worried about the cylinders.  Remember, the cylinders depend on that fuel to lube.  Maybe it's time for new injectors?
 
Read about the air dog at www.rollinsmokediesel.com
 
 
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« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2010, 10:00:40 PM »


 
If those cylinders were dry, I'd ne worried about the cylinders.  Remember, the cylinders depend on that fuel to lube.  Maybe it's time for new injectors?
 
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Only reason they were dry was due to the air the VE pump sucked in.  So they hadn't been running dry.

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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2010, 04:43:58 PM »

Update....



Well it's all back together now.  Here's what was done to get around the
 differences in the gasser vs diesel center link and tie rod ends sizes.



I ordered all new tie rods, two diesel inner tie rods, and two gasser
outer.  Here is a pair of the new ones.  You can see the difference!!











So to get around having to find a set of diesel lower ball joint arms
and such, I decided to have the big diesel tie rods machined down to fit
 the gasser adjustment sleeve, and therefore have the proper size end
and tapper to fit the diesel center link.



I found a local guy who works out of his back yard.  I brought him in
one of the old used gasser inner tie rod and adjustment sleeve, and the
two diesel units.   He then milled down the shaft size and threaded
them, Left hand thread of course.  He said the hardest part was figuring
 out how to mount the tie rods in the milling machine since the odd
shaped tie rod head was too big for his chucks.  He ended up having to
pin them on each side, center them, then mill them down, then thread
them, then cut them to size.



Diesel and gasser tie rods.







And them assembled in the sleeve.







And now mounted in the truck.







I have also redone my upper control arms, so after the VE pump is
re-sealed, new piston pump installed, new fuel heater and lines, I will
get the front end realigned.

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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2010, 04:51:47 PM »

I may be wrong on this Brian, but I can call if you want. . . .
 
That front end is probably a 1 ton suspension and steering.  Isn't that a 250?
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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2010, 05:18:53 PM »

No the truck is was a gasser 84 D350, so 1 Ton, with the 4000lb front end as well.  They didn't start running those HUGE tie rods until the cummins in 89. 

I didn't have the time, or funds right now to locate adn install all the diesel front end components.  I will be picking those up and installing them later.  This is just a temperary fix to get RAE back on the road, and have things safer then they were.  They may not last 20K miles but long enough to get the parts I need and get them installed.


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« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2010, 06:06:09 PM »

It took them that long?
 
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