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« Reply #90 on: August 29, 2010, 08:56:45 PM »

That's what I was talking about.  There's a upgrade kit available.
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« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2010, 06:51:33 PM »

Well I've had the front of the motor apart several times checking
everything.  The timing gear on the IP was not square on the shaft so I
pulled the gear and relined up the shaft and gear again, properly this
time.  I thought this was my noise...nope still there!!  So I tried
running it with no belt, still got the noise.  My next is to pull the
vacuum pump/power steering set-up, someone suggested that the bearing
might be going.

So next week I'll do this and see if I still have Mr. noise.








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« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2010, 06:52:01 PM »

OK I'm going to post all this in one thread so others can follow from start to finish in one place.



Here's a rehash of my other thread...Aug 17/10



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                                      I worked a bit over the weekend on getting the frame built for my 2nd gen 40/20/40 seat.







With me being 6'8" and 275lbs I wanted the seat as low as possible and
set back to give me lots of leg room. I have read almost every thread I
 could find here on the DTR related to this subject, and decided,
especially after I got my seat, that I wasn't going to use the factory
2nd gen seat tracks and brackets.



So I spent a fair amount of time trying to figure out what I wanted to
do. Eventually I decide that I would do away with the dual tracks and
make a solid bench seat style set-up. I also decided that I wanted to
use that factory bench seat tracks.



I then took all the measurements from the 2nd gen seat, pulled the stock
  bench out, but took tons of measurement, and then spent some time with
 a  pen and paper drawing up several different ideas on how to attack
the  situation.



I decide that I would build the frame out of 1" square tubing, 1/8th
wall, but wasn't sure exactly how things would work out in real life,
since ideas and drawing can't always predict everything. So I came to
the decision that I would build the frame, initially, from wood since
it's cheap and easy to work with. So out came the table saw, and some
2x2's I had around, and I ripped me a bunch of 1"x1" wood. I then
started cutting and then used my finishing nailer to piece it all
together.



So after a few hours I think I have a final design, I had to modify it
several times from my original drawings and ideas, the tranny tunnel for
  the transfer case posed the biggest problem.



Here are some current pics of the project....















Now I just need to build it from steel. Will update when I get it built and the new seat installed.


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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2010, 06:52:29 PM »

So the I built the frame out of steel.  1" square tubing by 1/8" wall.
 The holes I drilled at 7/16 for the 40/20/40 seat and then 1/2" to
mount  ot the original bracket.















And someone asked if I could post all the measurements and such in a
drawing.  I did one up in paint works last night.  Not to scale but
shoul dhave all the info for others to build there own.





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« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2010, 06:52:49 PM »

Next came the trial fit. I mounted everything on the frame, with only
tack welds to hold it together.  Then put it in the truck with the help
 of my neighbor.

It went in no problem and everything looked good.  I had to also drill 2
  new holes in the buddy seat since the frame did not extended to pick
up  the 2 rear mounts.









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« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2010, 06:53:30 PM »

I ordered some special fasteners to secure the frame to the stock bench
 brackets, but they didn't arrive in time so I decided to make my own.  I
  needed a deep socket type fastener to go down into the 1" tubing and
fasten to the stock 5/16 NC thread stud.



Here's what I did.



Bought four 5/16" joiners, taped them off leaving just under 1" of metal showing.







Then used my air sander to round off the exposed end to just under 1/2"







Once that was done rummaged through my tin of washers to find 4 that would work.











Then i had to figure out how to hold the washers secure and level while I
  tacked them in place with the welder.  I have a few small but strong
magnets and these did the job.







Few minutes with the welder and I was done.





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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2010, 06:54:15 PM »

Here you can see how the new fasteners work.















Only problem I found was when I was doing my final install the rear
fastener was too tall and was hitting the padding and would have dug
into the seal when I sat in it.  So I trimmed it down.





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« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2010, 06:54:42 PM »

So here's the last trial fit before I started to install the seat.







So the buddy seat had to go on first before the bracket went into the
truck.  No room to get the bolts up and under the new bracket.







Here's a couple shots of the bracket bolted to the seats, from down low.









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« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2010, 06:55:08 PM »

And the final install, all done!!!















So I sat in the seat and there is a ton of head room, and lots of leg room!


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« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2010, 07:52:44 PM »

Hell. . .anyone can set a seat in a truckand take a picture.  LOL 
 
 
 
 
 
Good Job.  Looks great and those seats are comfey
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« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2010, 10:03:22 PM »

Thanks Steve!!

Yup that seat is way more comfortable then the old, crushed and collapsing bench seat that was in there.

I'm going to eventually switch the interior over to black and gray, since it's just a mish-mash now...brown dash with red parts, red trim, beige door panels and now a gray seat....not pretty but works...kind of like all of us.


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« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2010, 07:35:48 AM »

I see the Solar Charger.  I use one too.  My truck can sit for weeks at a time.   With the pooter in it, always warm. . . .
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« Reply #102 on: September 11, 2010, 12:13:57 PM »


Quote from: POLARACO
I see the Solar Charger.  I use one too.  My truck can sit for weeks at a time.   With the pooter in it, always warm. . . .

Yeah handy little item, keeps the battery fresh and fully charged.  And other then the initial cost, cheap to run.... 

Heck it even charges with indoor lighting as well, so if you have a car in storage you can use one of these to kee the battery fresh.

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« Reply #103 on: September 11, 2010, 01:13:29 PM »

Yep.  I have several.  Left alone, it will charge a dead battery.  I have one in Polaraco
 
If you guys get one, make sure you get one with a Diode in it.  The can discharge batteries when it's dark.
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« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2010, 12:15:49 PM »

Well yesterday I decided to pull the vacuum/power steering pump
assembly.  If you don't know they are a two piece unit that is attached
and then drives off a gear in the timing case.



Got the pump assembly out and fired the motor up, no more noise!  But I
could still hear a slight ding in the gear train after my KSB cut out.
What the KSB does is advance the timing some and increase the fuel
pressure during a 1-2 minute warm up cycle.  SO I thought maybe my
injection pump (IP) timing was retarded to far.



SO today, in the pouring rain I might add, I advanced my IP timing by
about 1/8th inch.  What a big difference!  The motor is was more
responsive and just sounds better all the way around.  Also the slight
dinging I could hear in the gear train was now gone.  I was running the
motor with no KSB as well.



I then thought maybe I should double check the vacuum pump assembly and see if the noise would now be gone.



Re-installed the vacuum/power steering set-up.  Got  it in a fired it
up, rattled like before for a couple minutes then got  quiet.  I was
thinking I got it all sorted out and was pretty pleased  with myself,
but had a sneaky suspicion and thought I'd let it idle for a  few more
minutes.  The noise came back...but definitely not as loud.  I  can hear
 it but it is not as noticeable.  My guess is the noise was  there
before my whole fiasco with my IP and I just couldn't hear it.   Now
that I know what the noise is, and can pick it out of the other  engine
noises, I can hear it.



I'm guessing the timing was retarded too much with the new IP and was
allowing the gear train to have a little more "slop"? or what ever you
want to call it.  So I will definitely have to replace the vacuum/power
 steering pump assembly

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