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firedome

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Die By Wire ... Toyota's latest
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:09:26 PM »

Holy Crap!! I just heard on radio that now there's been a bunch of
complaints about steering problems on Corollas - I believe that like
the Prius brakes, and accelerators on other Toys, they are Drive by
Wire electronic controlled, ie no mechanical connection ... is it just
me? No Way do I want to drive a car that is only sensor/computer
controlled, unless maybe there is Triple Redunancy on everything, like
in the Space Shuttle... steering & brakes & gas By Wire??? NO
WAY JOSE!!!





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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 12:40:03 PM »

This has been going on for a long time.  A couple of years.  They recalled the floor mats, first, which was BS.  Who's at fault when the floor mat get's all bunched up?  The auto maker???  What nobody is acknoledging is the throttle gets stuck, but they can't shut the car off either!  They run up to 100 MPG in each case.   I don't get it!
 
So they blame the canadians, who made the pedal assemblies to Toyo's spec!  Butt heads.  The US DOT just blew a whistle on this recall and said Toyota has to prove this is the solution before they can continue.
 
I say there is a glitch in the software or firmware, maybe planted by a disgruntled employee.  They can't find it, or they didn't look in the right places.  They can't duplicate the scenareo so they have to go through the code, line by line.  Once the car reaches a certain set of parameters and the car suddenly goes out of control.  Think about it.  I don't care what kind of car it is.  If the throttle is stuck, the key should work.  This is the same problem VW had with the Jetta and beetle a few years ago.  But it was not heard of because VW fixed it right away.  Toyota is dragging their feet.
 
I posted a piece a while ago about this. . .  I have to find it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 12:41:16 PM »

My mistake.  Leaburn posted this here, and I posted it on another forum
 
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerindex?id=8990979
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 01:36:58 PM »

There was an article in the paper tonight they are going to recall 300,000 Prisma's
for brake problems.  They say it's a software glitch. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 02:41:42 PM »

Quote from: POLARACO
  They run up to 100 MPG in each case.   
 
 
You're kidding!!!  I don't care if they won't stop; with that kind of mileage I WANT ONE!  I'll take one off of anybody's hands!!  Just let me know!!!!
 
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 03:20:28 PM »

I invite everyone here to join me in a class-action lawsuit against Toyota.....my complaint is I feel unsafe having 4 or 5 Toyota products driving in front, behind, to the right of me and coming straight at me on the road every morning commute and again at nighttime.....constantly. It has made me suffer from partial blindness (from staring at headlights coming towards me to see if it's a Toyota) and PTTSS (post traumatic Toyota stress syndrome)


We can divvy up the 25 billion I'm suing for.......


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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 03:32:17 PM »

I dont disagree Steve, my only point is I don't trust drive by wire -
For a couple years in the 70s early 80s I was a programmer for the
biggest bank in Baltimore in charge of running check processing (Demand
Deposits)  - believe me, mistakes are made. Are they ever. I
myself made some dooseys. Some of the programs were in the 100,000s of
lines of code. Probably much worse now, but even though it was modular
programming even then, it's still impossible to be 100% perfect
really...Give me a ol' fashioned mechanical connection
please.
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