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Brian

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Project 48 Desoto...aka: Fernando
« on: February 07, 2010, 08:40:04 PM »

Well I've been looking or a "Hot Rod" candidate for some time now. I
originally wanted to go with a late 20's early 30's mopar but after
many shows and talking to owners and checking out cars I decided that
my 6'8" and 275lb body just wouldn't be happy in one of those cars.



I had come across the 46-48 Desoto's before and was instantly drawn to
grill and body styling. So I decided after looking at a couple similar
cars, the Dodge and Plymouth styling was nice but didn't work for me.
So I decided I would set my sites on a 46-48 Desoto.



Now the cars came in several different body styles, 2 and 4 dr, sedan
and coupe and then you could get a 7 pass limo and a convertible. After
much looking and searching I decided that the 2dr coupes didn't work
for me.



Here's a 2dr coupe...







I liked the styling of the 4dr sedan but the 4dr wasn't working for me either.







I finally came across a pic of a 2dr sedan, and I instantly feel in love. I now knew what I had to have.



Here's the pic I came across....





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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 08:40:46 PM »

So I put out feelers on-line, and combed through the craigslists along
the west coast and eventually I was contacted by a few guys with 2dr
sedans.



Now the 2dr sedan was a very small production compared to the 4dr sedan
and 2dr coupes. From what I have found there were only about 12, 750
units made for 4 years of production. So they are a bit rare.



Now eventually I decided on one particular car from Southern
California. Lots of info and pics later I decied to go with this car.
And as of right now I have sent a deposit to hold the car and I'm
waiting on the title and other papers work.



So here he is...Fernando.









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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 08:41:25 PM »

Now the story of Fernando goes like this, so far always...



The fellow I'm getting the car from was looking for the super rare
46-48 Desoto convertible. He eventually found one up in Montana, BUT,
he had to buy a "lot" of cars, five to be exact, to get the one
convertible he wanted. The lot consisted of the convertible, the 2dr
sedan and three 4dr sedans.



He then had to transport them all to southern California. He put the 2
dr sedan in the garage because it was the most complete of the "parts"
cars and was virtually rust free. He said it was just too nice a car to
part out so when he came across my want ad on craigslist he decided to
contact me.



Now I don't have the whole story from him yet onthe history of this car
but from what he has said it was an original San Fransisco car and when
the original owner passed away it went through a couple of the brothers
before it ended up on a farm in Montana. It sat outside for almost 20
years.



The car is rough inside, bu tit only needs a few small patches, mainly
the bottom of the spare tire well and a couple spots on the floor
boards.



The only major problem is the motor. These cars ran a flathead 6 in
them. And when he go the car the head was loose. He never really
checked anything since the cars was not his main interest. It wan't
unitl he started taking detailed pics for me thathe discovered the
problem with the motor.



Here's the motor as it looked when he got it.







Now he decided to pop off the head...and...







Seems to be missing one or two things.

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 08:42:02 PM »

Now Chrysler used the long 25" Flathead six in the Chrysler's and
Desoto's. But the US Plymouth's and Dodges got the 23" Flathead. The
Canadian Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler and Desoto's all got the 25"
Flathead. The only difference was the Cu. in on the dodge and Plymouth.



Right now I'm talking with a couple guys locally who have running
motors. One guy has a complete, all accessories and manual 3 speed
trans for sale, about $1000.



Here are a couple pics...















I'm leaning towards this one since it's all rebuilt with only a hand
full of miles. They redid the motor and tranny, new clutch and
everything, then decided to street rod it with a V8 and stuff. This
motor also has an added exhaust flange to run dual exhaust.



Another fellow is asking $500 for just a motor, was rebuilt 30K miles ago and has a cracked manifold.



I'm waiting on one other fellow who pulled a complete driveline from a car to do the street rod thing again.



We'll see what happens.

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 08:52:26 PM »

Now my vision for Fernando was/is this.

I want to get it running and driving and safetied so I can get it registered and insured in my province.  Once that's done I will probably drive it and enjoy it until I can gather the parts for the work I want to do.

I plan on dropping it several inches, 4-6 to be exact.  Fatman has drop spindles and then some shorter springs will bring the front down, then in the back I'll get 2" dropped springs and then lowering blocks? 

I want to run wide whites with full wheel covers for now and eventually I'd like to have artillery style rims. 

I had originally thought to rebuild and drop my 331 Hemi into the car but after much thinking and research I think, for now, I'm going to stay with the Flathead six.  I will probably just get some go quick goodies for it.  Multi carb intake, split exhaust manifolds or headers, a high compression head and maybe and HEI dizzy. 

Tranny I plan on going with ma' Mopars A833 OD and then a 8 3/4 rear.  With lowering the front end I'll also have to run a disc brake conversion since the drop spindles will cause the drums to interfere with things in the front end.

Have the interior redone and then just clean up and redo things as I enjoy the car.


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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 01:20:22 AM »

Brian,talk to Steve.
He was doing up some go fast goodies for his 5=50 project until he went with the 318.
Too bad you did not grab Fernando before winter...Steve droppedd off a flatheadd here in my town.It was a running engine.
 
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 01:49:26 AM »

So here he is...Fernando. [/QUOTE]
I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You do not see many of those.  Great choice.
If you have a line on any 3 or 5 window coupes, lemme know.  Especially a business coupe.  I love those.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 06:13:32 AM »

Wow
 
Better look for a pick up frame if you are planning on going V8
 
There's a guy in Kingston that has my 231 who hasn't paid for it yet. . . .
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Project 48 Desoto...aka: Fernando
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 06:18:54 AM »


One of our long time cruisers has that rare Desoto convertible with a GMC 6 cylinder transplanted into it......very reliable and more power than the flattie. I want to put my 180hp Dakota Magnum V6/A500 auto trans into something like that (with the full wiring harness from the truck)....I really want a 49-50 Dodge Wayfarer for the project. I'll make it a convertible if it isn't already

That Desoto is crying out for a Maggy V8 swap!

BTW.... 6'8", 275lbs? Remind me to never pi$$ off Brian!

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 06:45:51 AM »

Here's a guy who dropped am SB into his '51 Fastback:
 
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441991
 

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 07:30:16 AM »

Steve do you still have that dual carb manifold?  Or did it go with the flatty when you gave it away for free....



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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 07:36:45 AM »

Thanks for the thoughts and comments guys.

I want to do something different with the car.  That was why I was thinking 331 Hemi.  But I have really started to like the thought of running the Flathead six. 

I know I won't get super performance out of it but that's not what I'm after.  I just want a nice cruiser that is kind of period correct as such.  The faltty will be something different in a sea of V8's and such.  And if I have a multi carb intake and split exhaust and an aluminum head, it will just add to the "well that's different" factor.

I'm not in a hurry to get where I'm going and even thought I'll be lucky to see 150HP out of any flatty I build I don't really care.  The 833OD will help on the highway and as long as I can flow with traffic that's all I care about.

Should be a fun project.


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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:19 AM »

Brian,
 
Sounds like a real sweet project. I have a friend who is also in the National Desoto Club with a 48 2 door sedan. It is one very cool look. He has the Fluidrive trans which is kinda unforgiving.
I am currently a member of the Desoto Club. Their members are really helpful with information. You can join the Messageboard without being a member, and also access the want ads of their journal. You may be able to find some of the parts you seek.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 07:53:45 AM »



So...Steve
 
When do I become a C-Body????
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 10:23:04 AM »

Keep posting..

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